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>>11481041
Gradual development of productive forces is a first step before any sort of socialism, and China has been doing this deliberately through planning rather than simply letting the market do its thing -- in simple terms, this is Marx 101. Also pretty much the only country in the world where millionaires regularly serve jail for tax evasion and corruption, you can look up countless news stories on this. I'm not shilling for them or anything (I'm not even much of a leftist anymore), there's still tons of govt. corruption and labor conditions are shit, but those are two things that distinguish China from any liberal democracy and could be seen as elements of a communist (in ideology) state. In reality, there is nothing such as an "ideal" communist/liberal/etc. society since a state is a byproduct of history and human relationships.