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>>8292837
No we don't have free will.
You can see this for yourself, you don't need to have it proven to you.

Try and notice where thoughts come from. They simply appear out of nowhere in your mind. Stop thinking for a moment and try and maintain, just notice what happens. You notice you're constantly bombarded by thoughts that you have no control over.

Now go and make a decision. Let's say you go to the fridge and you're choosing between a Peanut butter sandwich or a ham sandwich. Whichever one you pick, you really didn't have a say in, despite how much it feels like you did. Say you pick peanut butter, why did you?
>I felt like this one more
Why? Did you have any say in that?
>No I just like peanut butter more
Well why do you like peanut butter more? Stop liking it as much.
You can't. Now at this point, the contrarian always says
>"Even if I feel like Peanut Butter more, I could pick ham!"
Okay now why did you pick ham instead?
>'insert whatever reason given'
Say this reason is to prove a point in this argument, or it's because they think ham is more filling, or it's going to go off soon. NONE of these things, were up to them, and the motivation to finally pick ham because of these reasons, wasn't up to them either. Their body and brain simply fed them those reasons.

Simply notice the feeling of making a decision. Try not just saying pros and cons in your head, try and notice what it feels like finally coming to a decision. It simply *clicks* all of a sudden, and you just finally know the answer, and it feels like you just came to it. But really why did that one click??

Free will isn't an illusion, the illusion of free will is an illusion. We just haven't been bothered to pay attention to our thoughts.