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>>2964889
>At what point do you remove the mans opinion from the situation?

When I factor in who has to carry it.

>You said it yourself, they both choose to have sex, so shouldn't they both choose to abort it or not?

That'd be nice, but in the end, the abortion either occurs or it doesn't. If they disagree, only one person really gets their way, so no, they can't both make the choice. It's impossible.

>Why should the man be held responsible for a baby he doesn't want, that the woman could abort?

Because he chose to have sex despite knowing what could've happened. If a woman doesn't want to have an abortion or give up her child for adoption, and both the male and female agreed to the sex, then the male puts the female in a very unfair position by not contributing for the child in any way. In short, no, you can't fuck someone, put them in a terrible position, and walk off guilt free. Deal with it.

I'll admit that this is not an issue I'm concrete on. I've been formulating an opinion on it for... Years. It just never gets any of my thoughts because I hardly ever debate abortion anymore.

>They did both choose to have sex, yes. But keeping the baby is an entirely different issue.

An issue you should've discussed with her. Didn't take that precaution? Deal with the consequence.

(This is coming from someone who got a pro-lifer pregnant. Stupid period of my life. I never considered leaving her. She ended up changing her outlook on life and had the abortion.)

>>2318710

>There is no facepalm pic for the sympathetic shame I feel right now as an atheist.

If you're a troll, to obvious

If you really are an atheist, i feel sorry that even though you're atheist you still take morality and ethics up the ass form christians