/sci/ - Science & Math

>>1118474

Pure. Word. Salad.

>>1118465

I have tried the rational route. It's amazing how far you can get in a debate until they see that next logical step and back away from it and run all the way back to original premises. I have tried being nice.

I have had a boss tell me I'm going to hell. I bit my lip, seethed and raged privately. No longer.

Someone tells me I'm going to hell, I tell them they're going too, and to have a nice day.

By the way, I don't suppose you know just how dangerous Christian fundamentalists are. They are indistinguishable from Islamicists and other people who would kill you given the chance if you do not believe as they do.

I was convinced of this 30 years ago.

>>1118447

> but unproductive ridicule is just that - unproductive

Right, because I just should shut up and let the abuse from fundies continue.

Uh huh.

>>1118303

Yes, it's freaky. Ezekiel was freaky.

>>1118301

>But please have the courtesy not to mock ideologies with which you disagree.

I mock Evangelicals, Dominionists and others of the Fundamental persuasion because they are not Christian at all. It's all about in-group politics. It's not Golden Rule" big-picture care for your fellow human being. It's "let's beat up on illegal immigrants because we hate them" in spite of various admonishments in the Old Testament not to.

It has been more than once I have been told I am going to Hell for not believing. I don't know how else to put it. It's not a choice. Either you are convinced or you are not. I am not. But for this, I am going to burn in a lake of fire, for eternity, with Gawd Awlmightah renewing my skin so I can feel the pain again and again and again until the End Of Time because I did not "go along to get along"

But if I do indeed "go along to get along" and the Fundies are actually right, I burn forever in a pit anyway.

That is not what Christ taught. Not what I've read.

This was not my fight. I am seen as less than even a criminal because I'm not a believer. I am traitorous.

Well fuck them. They are ridiculous. They deserve mockery.

>>1118285

I did not finish this thought:

I think what I think, and for me to fool myself into believing in the Great Sky God That Hates Me Because I'm A Sinner (but here is an out...it's easy, just mouth these words and you're out of jail free!) is self deluding and makes me a hypocrite.

>>1118225

>many people are atheist simply out of rebellion against a Christian upbringing.

And some of us were brought up to think for ourselves, because our parents were mentally abused by the Catholic Church, went Episcopal (because it was close enough) and eventually dropped out of organized religion altogether.

I was told point blank to think for myself.

I'm an agnostic. I get it from the militant atheists too, and I get called a "teapot atheist." But whatever. I think what I think, and for me to fool myself into believing in the Great Sky God That Hates Me Because I'm A Sinner (but here is an out...it's easy, just mouth these words and you're out of jail free!).

I have read the Bible myself. It's a freaky book.

God, should he exist, hates false piety. He hates it very, very much. Embracing Pascal's wager guarantees me a place in the Lake Of Fire if it exists.

>>1118232

Thanks. It's tough to spell right at times, though.

>>1118203

>Nowadays majority of scientists are dicks instead of christians.

Oh this is rich. Pharisaical Bible thumper spotted.

You want dicks? Look right at Evangelicalism. "If you don't believe like we do, in the LITERAL (while we pick and choose anyway) interpretation of OUR SPECIFIC VERSION of the Bible, you are going to BURN FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER IN THE LAKE OF FIRE BECAUSE GOD HATES YOU, and we do too, but we try to hide this."

You are laughable.

Go away. You guys are nutty.

>>1117929

>Sadly no, as much as I want this one to be true it isn't

Serious question:

Why, in 40 years, has nobody credible come forward and exposed the whole thing? There were thousands of people involved in the Space Race. Why no deathbed confessions? Why no "fuck you, I'm talking. Go ahead, try to put me in jail" whistleblowers? There are people willing to risk jail for less important things all the time. Why hasn't anyone talked?

Maybe it's because they're proud of what they did and you are just a mewling teenager who needs to find something to rebel against and be controversial. Because a certain subset of ignorant people listen to you, and it gives your ego a boost.

All the "controversies," that were invented by certain authors trying to sell their bad science fiction stories, have been debunked thoroughly by people who actually know their stuff.

>>1116687

Someone not from that culture? Probably none.

But then I'm sure they agree that blonde white women without any displays of personal wealth (it's all relative, faggot) are just as ugly.

What's your opinion of western people who do similar body modification? I personally don't see the attraction, but obviously some people do.

I can't stand bony, sickly looking waifs. I need some meat on a chick. I'm sure there are people here who find that disgusting.

Your point is noted, but bogus.

>>1116645
>that they

Bad fucking editing, bmo

>>1116531
>Haiti is a good example of what happens. It used to export rice as it produced so much, then the USA interferes and opens up it's market, now the country is heavily reliant upon food aid.

Haiti got double hit. Haiti had to pay for the "property loss" of the French slave owners that they in exchange for recognition. It permanently impoverished the country. It took them roughly 100 years to repay it.

Imagine if the US had to pay England for the loss of the colonies as property from 1789 to 1889. Where would the US be today? We would have probably wound up relying on Mexican and Canadian aid.

>>1116389

>Not at all you ignorant fuck, the real problem is their economies are crippled by us

Indeed. Look at Nigeria. We get a large majority of our oil from there, yet the Nigerian economy gets exactly bupkis from the oil extracted out of the Niger delta.

And faggots here wonder why Nigerians take western oil workers hostage.

Oil profits go to western countries
Mineral mining profits go to western countries
Diamond and gem mining profits go to western countries
All profits from natural resources goes to western countries.

Etc., ad nauseam.

Well, that was before China got involved. China is making deal after deal with African countries because the Africans figure they can't be any fucking worse than the western neo-colonialists.

The racist fucks in this thread are the stupidest people on the planet. They don't understand that because of the behavior of the west, the Chinese are going to own everything and fuck the round-eyes in the ass.

>>1115042

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2008/06may_carringtonflare/

Better, you cocksucker?

Google Geomagnetic Storm 1859 or Solar flare 1859 or Carrington Event. Ignore the ones that mention *anything* about 2012.

Herp, a, derp.

>>1114988

It takes 8 minutes for light, but longer for the charged particles to get here since they have mass. For matter to be moving from the Sun to Earth in 2 days means that it's been ejected at a pretty good clip. Lots of little lethal subatomic bullets for the people in the ISS.

>>1114747

The magnetic storms wreak havoc with electronics.

Think EMP but not from a puny nuclear weapon, but potentially much, much bigger.

Carrington event:

http://chasblogspot.blogspot.com/2009/08/carrington-event.html

"In Philadelphia, a telegrapher was stunned by a severe shock. In some offices the equipment burst into flames. In Bergen, Norway, the operators had to scramble to disconnect the apparatus, risking electrocution."

So how well do you think your computer would fare from a magnetic storm like the one in 1859?

>>1114620

Maybe it'll go as far south as Southcarolinastan and you'll miss it.