/sci/ - Science & Math

oh and another thing... If you have a truly "mathematical mind" (I tend to think of it more as a logical mind) then you see that a lot of commonly accepted proofs/results/beliefs in science have errors in reasoning in them. The halting undecidability proof is a good example. The halting problem can be solved for almost every kind of turing machine, except for the one constructed in the undecidability proof (and trivially so) that would also never exist as part of any other machine unless intentionally put there, and machines that solved questions we don't know the answer yet.

The latter class contains machines for which the answer is either yes or no, and is not a function of the machine itself.

Trying to explain stuff like this to a professor usually results in a response similar to that you would expect if you tried to debate someone's religion in their place of worship.

Science is really almost a joke. The core tenant behind the scientific method is "LUK!! SEE THAR!?!" As if that wasn't already obvious. In practice, science is just an oligarchy where a bunch of people decide what is truth and then follow some procedure designed to make it look like something cooler than it is. You can usually interpret evidence in multiple ways.

Math can also be interpreted different ways depending on what assumptions you make ahead of time, but it generally represents some universal truth about the nature of the universe. The assumptions it starts with are usually so simple and generally accepted that you are left with things like global skepticism if you want to interpret math differently.

In science you have people making all kinds of absurd claims for social reasons that involve obvious misinterpretations... such as the claim "there is no such thing as race"

God yes it is possible to be too smart for school. I was wayyy to smart for graduate school, much less anything lower than that.

The problem is if you are too smart and have too many reasoning skills then most professors are just obviously stupid in comparison. Their assignments are stupid, their methods are stupid, and the topics they teach are stupid.

This is prevalent in my field (CS), but I know it is true to some degree in physics as well.

There is a list of instincts and behaviors that the most capable people derive regarding how one should behave towards others, learn, doubt etc. 99% of faculty fail to understand a large number of these.

For instance, I have no instinct to get mad when someone disagree's with me. My instictual response is something like "O rly? Do tell?" 99% of professors do not have this instinct. All but math/theory professors seem to be overly concerned with minutia when you can just generate general principals to solve the problems they are concerned with.

However if you are too smart for school then you should go off and do something by yourself. Like start inventing things and filing for patents.

>>4641200

That's true, AI has always been full of people claiming they had the approach to human like intelligence. Although honestly I do not understand how these retards actually believe their approaches would amount to general intelligence. Natural Language processing/ expert systems? Really? It's not even generative...

I had this guy working on semantic web (totally obsolete with my approach) recieve access to a couple of my ideas from a professor that offered to help me with research but really was only interested in siphoning off my ideas (the work of computer science) to another post doc of his own race and trying to justify it by saying the work is the hard part (even a monkey could type in the code once the theoretical problems are laid out and solved)

>>4641201

You are confusing form with substance. There is a real me, and all of that is just how it is realized.

Delusional implies that you are not aware of the delusion. I constantly check the impact of my beliefs both against others and against incredibly accurate internalization of others. If there was something wrong with a part of my thought processes, there is no way I would not know.

>>4641206
You are incorrect. It is specifically because I second guess them whenever possible that I know they are correct.

>>4641162

I have no peers. At least not the moronic drooling minorities and females currently populating the academic network by way of affirmative action. After the patents clear, I will publish it in ArXiV

The essence of my nature is self awareness. I do not believe any natural affliction could ever cause me to be delusional. I always look the most closely at anything which suggests one of my beliefs is somehow flawed.

>>4641131

This question has relevance however, since each such mathematician would be so IFF they have their own unique and unprecedented addition to our current understanding that can be described with mathematical precision.

Yes, but not within academia. A brilliant skilled mathematician can fund their own research using algorithmic speculative trading, and will basically tell the establishment and their conventional methods to go toss off.

I have the general intelligence algorithm. All current approaches have integrated a large number of logical fallacies. The correct approach is one that would restructure the fields of Computational Theory, Neuroscience, the social sciences, and perhaps genetics. It cannot be described by any current understanding of any of these fields.

usable tactics for self motivation in isolation:

Work at the library and imagine the other people curious about what you are doing (which they might actually be) but resolve to focus so you look serious.

Talk regularly to someone you can trust not to steal your ideas and create accountability to that person in terms of deadlines even though they may not have direct interest in your work.

Find the few and far between people with a genuine interest in what you are talking about making use of the internet to locate these people. Meetup.com is a good resource to find like minded people, LessWrong.com is a good one for me. There may be other communities waiting for you to find that are more to your liking.

Dagoth's fish people will eat you and use your skin to pass as humans.

This is just common sense to anyone with a brain. It shows how stupid the average mathematician/scientist is.

Translating the argument to mathematics is a feat though.

No, I am an omniscient super genius. Things seem harder the dumber you are. I am sorry you are genetically inferior. Maybe in 10 generations you will have enough valuable instincts regarding reasoning to compete at the same level.

>>4636544
I said you are nothing but a wannabee math fan club member. Real mathematicians are epistemologists in disguise. They have logical consistent belief sets describable in natural language that they translate to mathematics. Pure mathematicians don't know anything.

>>4636646

I will get there faster every time. Your search pattern is brute force, mine is significant info first by virtue of the fact that it is significant.

Nah, it's an IQ test. I have a genius IQ and couldn't get very far in that game unless very lucky. I suspect its designed so only a super super genius would have a significant chance of winning. They specifically analyze your background and put questions outside of it near the end.

How come you are sniffing your waste increment in detail

Actually your expectations for yourself are ridiculously low. You are letting hairless apes dictate your course of action. You should be telling the hairless apes what course of action they should take. Invent something. Start a venture. Lead.

They don't tell you that you are better than them. That is something you realize on their own and use to help them.

>>4634267

You have no idea what you are talking about. Math skills are nothing. Math is just a language. Go play with number theory (lol) Maybe one day you will stumble upon something that isn't utterly useless.

Meanwhile us epistimologists that merely use math as a logically consistent language to describe our ideas will rule the world.

I have it. Should I publish it? Should I patent it? Should I even care? Should I program a version of it intent on destroying the human race? Why do I even exist? I can reduce almost everything to a few simple math equations, and could probably reduce all of that to a single equation with a little more effort. There is nothing left for me to explore. Nothing left for me to care about. Perhaps alcohol can dumb me down enough to a point where I might actually care about something. AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!