/sci/ - Science & Math

>>3922882
it's hard to sometimes

>>3922863
god damnit inurdaes
you've been praying too hard at the church of lftr, i've seen you posting facts without researching them

also your idea is absolutely bonkers, in a kind of amusing way
just tellin' it how it is

>>3922846
no
hell no
they've stolen enough of our ideas already, damnit. we built this son of a bitch and we're going to finish it first

gentlemen
we must educate america about nuclear energy, and get them to care enough to do something about it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9M__yYbsZ4

with
-no budget
-no governmental assistance
-no private assistance

how do we do it

>>3922803
it's more a proof of concept than anything, since that's all truthers seem to be able to grasp

start going into stuff like "exposure time" and they'll probably have an aneurysm

easy experiment
take your phone camera
point it at the night sky
do you see anything at all? even jupiter?
now downgrade that phone camera by 70 years

i'm not saying the moon cameras were crap, but i mean, come on.

this is like
the most expensive concept i've ever seen

>>3921251
no, the united states says a few things

the nrc says;
"LFTR is unproven and experimental, we only deal in light water because we know exactly how it works, no licenses to build reactors for you"

the military says;
"this is nice, but we already have a relatively simple system in place for powering our forces, no funding for you, or at least not very much"

the public says;
"NOT MY MY BACKYARD"

the government says;
"i want the public's vote, so whatever they say goes"

>>3921234
nice poster, actually
it seems fukushima is becoming a double edged issue. on the one hand most see it as a failure of nuclear energy as a whole, but it's acting as a sort of negative comparison to LFTR, highlighting the safety of such a potential reactor.

>>3920457
these aren't very informative, and sometimes misleading

unless you've already done some respectable research, i'll tell you right now

everything you know about nuclear energy is a lie

the thorium remix 2011 video does a decent into to nuclear chemistry, and while i does poo-poo on light water reactors a little too hard, it goes into some detail about fukushima at parts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9M__yYbsZ4
make sure to find official sources and understand what a sievert is. this chart does well to put it in perspective

why is everyone amazed by this
superconductors do this, they have been doing this for a long time.

i believe the general gist of it is that the superconductor is almost magnetic transparent, meaning field lines pass through it instead of attempting the bend around it to create a repulsive force. The superconductor is basically impaled by the field lines and cannot move within them without outside energy

room temperature superconductors are a fair ways off, since we're not really sure WHY superconductivity happens in some metals as opposed to others, or why it needs such a low temperature

>>3918254
>internship at an NPP
sounds ballin

>>3918125
yup, although ironically enough, the power plant operators very closely measure the outlet water temperature, because if they dump it too hot for too long, it'll mess up fish spawning and migration cycles in the river.

their concern isn't radiation at all, it's disrupting the river's frigging temperature balance, that should give a good indication of how safe these plants are

>>3917965
also i like how that entire complex is the size of a decent office building. 2 gigawatts of solar panels would cover most of the visible land mass in that image

also that river is probably a designated wildlife conservation site, most nuclear power plants have those around them since essentially nothing comes from the plant.

>shutting down a nuclear power plant because of "energy surplus"
what? no, why are you doing that, demolish the fucking mercury and uranium spewing coal plants first.

indian point is a 2 gigawatt installation? dayum

>>3915763
:I

>>3915730
>extensive
more like any, at all. and i'm not talking about students dropping sodium into the pot and wondering what will happen, i'm talking about doing something to the rector aside from measure its output and use it as a set piece

Berkeley is really pushing for their very cleverly designed gas and salt cooled modified pebblebed reactor.
http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/pb-ahtr/
but it'll probably never be built at any scale in the united states.

>>3915698
it're more an issue of the potential innovation within that field, and even then we're still making light water test reactors almost exclusively, and even THEN only a few schools set aside enough to make one, and even THEN they aren't really allowed to do much testing with them, it's a hot mess all around

>>3915657
of course they're expensive, i'm just arguing on the principle of the thing, that so few exist in the entire fucking country even at their price.

>>3915614
is it berkeley or UAT

>>3915588
it's just the principle of the thing, man
>>3915583
:I

there are something like 10 colleges in the united states which have actual nuclear engineering programs with budgets

there are maybe 3 that have working test reactors

what the hell /sci/

>>3912727
a 16 million year half life puts it beyond thorium in terms of trace radioactivity, and thorium's pretty damn harmless in trace quantities