/sci/ - Science & Math

>>2763740
I can't believe there are still people that think teacher's unions and public unions aren't complete bullshit.

>>2763736
>BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

>>2763728
>Why, because we organize for the good of our members?

And how is that different from a corporation that organizes for the good of its shareholders?

When unions resort to intimidation and economic or violent damage to FORCE municipalities to hire only them, it's time for those unions to be busted.

>Morals come first from logical conclusions about how to run a safe, functioning society.
Prove it.

>>2763715
You still haven't shown how MORALS THEMSELVES are based on logic. You have shown that following prevailing moral values can be logical in some cases to stay safe, but you haven't shown how those values are all logically consistent.

They ARE all in the habitable zone. If Venus had a lot less greenhouse gasses and Mars had a lot more (along with a magnetic field), they would both lie within habitable range.

>>2763705
>>2763706
>your faces when

>>2763703
You haven't made a single post responding to my actual argument.
Laws =! morality.

>herpderp UR CRAZY

>>2763701
Another example of how unions are just a mafia.

>>2763697
>HERP DERP I NEED GUBMINT 2 PROTECT ME

>>2763688

>>2763686
Oh well then I'll just dismiss your posts as being inane bullshit.

>>2763683
You still haven't provided a logical foundation for morality.

Are you just stupid or something? What you're talking about has nothing to do with my argument.

>>2763681

>>2763675
The teachers in Wisconsin are a bunch of faggots.

>>2763661
>That is a possible consequence for believing that it is not logical to adhere to certain guidelines when living in society.

Except that isn't what we were arguing nigger. I made the claim that morals have no logical basis.

>>2763661
>u shuld do dis or else someone will hurt u
>HERPDERP TOTALLY LOGICAL HERPDERP

I think you don't even fucking know what logic is.

>>2763645

>>2763631
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_baculum

>>2762957
>even with all the processing power in the universe, you can't build a model for the brain

AREYOUFUCKINGRETARDEDWHATTHEFUCKAREYOUEVENSAYINGNIGGER

wghudfslgklds

FUCK YOU IDIOT

>>2763609
HAHAHAHAHA.
HAHAHAHAHA.
HAHAHAHAHA.


No. You have still given no logical reason for morality.

Anyone who believes in morality is no better than a religious faggot. There is no logical basis for morality.
None.

It is all of YOU and people like you that are directly and 100% responsible for the shit that has occurred in this country.

I hope you all starve to death or are gang raped by rampaging naggers once the country goes up in flames.

>>2763367
>michio kaku