/sci/ - Science & Math

>>2846152

NVM then - carry on trolling. Its obvious you like to use big words to emphasize your presence but lack the very "Critical Faculties" needed to demonstrate something of worth.

Bravo.

>>2846137

You're trolling right...

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>>2846104

OK - So... cut the philosophical jargon and explain your contention and provide a solution that in your opinion will fix the issue involving education/inequality/poverty. Is that hard?

>>2846106

>implying they teach with the ambition to become rich.

1/10

>>2846089

These tea-party sheeple... all my rage.

roflmao - of course they will buy it. Good idea too! Im sure someone else has done it though.

>>2846066

Same with healthcare, We pay a ridiculous amount of money per person in healthcare and dont receive the attention we deserve. But thats an aside.

You bring up a strong issue, I dont know if the federal government can mandate something like that. If it can... that would be a tremendous victory if employed properly... I think what we arent incorporating though is that because education is handled SOOO much on a micro level, individual town school boards and "county" school boards will rage harder than the rich about paying taxes.

>>2846057

whatever - pretentious fuckstick. Theres a laundry list of issues. Poverty is huge but if we just hand out money it isnt going to solve anything. Moreover in order for people to make meaningful contributions to society they need to be educated, If they are sufficiently educated and can fill some capacity in the society than poverty wont be an issue.

>>2846045

Did you ever watch Waiting for Superman or The Lottery? Its pretty good as an intro to whats going on with the tenure system and how it effects the education system. I think the tenure system and its inability to hold teachers accountable for their pupils failure is one of the big reasons we have such shitty test scores among other countries. I want to stipulate its a big reason... theres clearly others like fundies halting evolution and other scientific knowledge progression.

>>2846030

I think thats a very rare exception... And im not going to rule out the possibility that some teachers like the ones you mentioned might be getting overpaid. I want to caveat this though, its pretty damn rare.

>>2846022

wtf is this bean bag bullshit - im not reading his post.

>>2846016

Sorry - I apologize if you got offended. I felt offended by that ignorant remark though.

>>2846004

I know... Ive seen some stupidly absurd expenditure of cash too.

>mfw 100k on a bag...

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>>2846001

First of all - THEY ARE NOT - REPEAT ---- NOT --- FUCKING NOT - overpaid. Get that stupid idea out of your head. They in a lot of cases barely make enough to live on their own. The biggest ACTUAL perk they have, is the instant tenure clause that doesn't allow them to be fired. And that SPECIFICALLY is what should be looked at. As a state workers they should get health benefits, all other government employees get that perk, why are teachers not good enough for it?

Now if you think I am missing something from my perspective please enlighten me.

>>2845981

I agree the tenure clause needs to be revised. But instead of making that argument they just want to take EVERYTHING away from the teachers. Thats just plain fucked up.

>>2845987

Sweden has pretty good income equality... actually most of those Nordic countries have good pay equality.

>>2845972

My uncle works at a big investment firm - I have lunch with him and occasionally one of his clients will call him from Switzerland or some yacht in the middle of nowhere asking about their account. Thats about as much work as they are gonna do for the rest of the year. Its ridiculous.

>>2845971

Nah im not saying that at all - Im saying its not right to kill their benefits. The rich are making out like bandits during this recession. Record profits AND record paychecks.... but the only people making sacrifices are the working class.

>>2845955

>implying that still isnt a fucking absurd number.

>>2845945

pfft - the 1% are mad jelly the teachers get benefits like vacations and health insurance. Meanwhile they work tirelessly on their million dollar yacht's cruising the Mediterranean and occasionally caring about the country by building mansions (summer homes).

>>2845942

How does it prevent corruption?

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