/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10642932
wi-cancer.info
jew shills and their 5G trannies will show up and call me or you a schizo

You guys are a bunch of retards.

Here you can see the intensity (power) of different types of radiation. Radiowaves used by wi-fi and telecommunications are literally millions of times less powerful than the color blue.

This means that the color blue is about a million times more cancer inducing than your cell phone tower. You people are absolutely fucking retarded if you believe in this trash. Learn some basic physics.

>>10030494
5G has not been approved. The telephone companies thought that Hillary was going to win the election, and knew she was pay to play so they could get approval after the fact. Despite not having approval, they went ahead and installed billions of dollars worth of 5G equipment all over the country. It will not be approved as long as Trump is president, because the man can't be bribed. So all that investment in 5G will be obsolete before they can even turn it on.

4G is bad, 5G is deadly.

http://www.wi-cancer.info/antenna_sickness.aspx

>>9898695
>but replacing it with crops is not going to do anything positive either
Reducing water consumption, runoff, and all the space required to grow crops to feed livestock, and eliminating their methane output, most certainly does make a difference.

>The rest is just peta nonsense.
It's simply the truth. Tough luck if you don't like it.

>>9898702
>Also, meat is everything but unnecessary,
Explain me. The only oil I take in is sunflower oil, occasionally, and plant oils from legumes. Which I don't eat often either.

>Cancer
Carcinogenesis is complex, however a "red meat" heavy diet is an obvious case of a tumor promoter. Neu5gc can also serve as a tumor initiator.

>Our modern dependence on carbs and sugar is what is causing all these fucking metabolic problems.
It plays a role. Diet in general does, eg there's evidence that early childhood exposure to artificial sugars and MSG causes damage to the hypothalamus with subsequent metabolic and autonomic disturbance in adulthood. Not even to mention fluoride compounds and aluminum intake with subsequent accumulation in the brain, and various EMFs, which also happen to act strongly on the hypothalamus and promote chr9onically elevated intracellular calcium and oxidative stress. There are some case reports of type 1 diabetics losing blood sugar control when exposed to wi-fi fields, so it clearly has a role in the functioning of insulin in the body. To someone who's read studies in the thousands from the last 80 years of literature, this is not surprising.

All facets of American life are toxic. Literally, physically, toxic.

>>9898706
Lipolysis will be driven down by a constant stream of carbohydrates / sugars. The body will never have cause to function via ketosis. Most people probably haven't been in a state ketosis in years and can barely tolerate even brief fasting.

Could Wi-Fi, cellular phone signals, etc. be causing cancer?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican_Radio_lawsuit

>>9311600
>radio waves
The cancer angle I won't get into, in some cases certain fields can act as cancer promoters, enhance the action of other toxins, or lead to cancer themselves, in other cases the opposite. Depends on a lot. Generally the oxidative and nitrosative stress induced by pulsed RF is more apt to trigger apoptosis or cause necrosis.

This has a long and complex history. In any case, it's been apparent that non-ionizing radiation is biologically active since the 50's. If you don't believe non-ionizing radiation can athermally cause chemical change in a system, take a look at how your own eyes work. How can visible light interacting with your eye cause your mental state to change? Likewise, imagine a robot controlled via wi-fi holding a test tube of some reactive compound above a vat of some other compound. A signal is sent to make it drop it, chemical change occurs. By such logic, these trivial everyday events are impossible, as are most of your own senses. Clearly it's a matter of signal amplification and transduction, at every scale.

Further reading:

Reviews:
-General
Pall 2013, Electromagnetic fields act via activation of voltage-gated calcium channels to produce beneficial or adverse effects
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3780531/
Pall 2016, Microwave frequency electromagnetic fields (EMFs) produce widespread neuropsychiatric effects including depression
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0891061815000599

-Autism
Herbert 2013, Autism and EMF? Plausibility of a pathophysiological link – Part I
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24095003
http://www.marthaherbert.org/library/Herbert-Sage-2013-Autism-EMF-PlausibilityPathophysiologicalLink-Part1.pdf
Herbert 2013, Autism and EMF? Plausibility of a pathophysiological link part II
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24113318
http://www.marthaherbert.org/library/Herbert-Sage-2013-Autism-EMF-PlausibilityPathophysiologicalLink-Part11.pdf
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Aynali G, Nazıroğlu M, Celik O, Doğan M, Yarıktaş M, Yasan H. Modulation of wireless (2.45 GHz)-induced oxidative toxicity in laryngotracheal mucosa of rat by melatonin. Eur Arch Otorhinolaryngol. 270(5):1695-1700, 2013.

It is well known that oxidative stress induces larynx cancer, although antioxidants induce modulator role on etiology of the cancer. It is well known that electromagnetic radiation (EMR) induces oxidative stress in different cell systems. The aim of this study was to investigate the possible protective role of melatonin on oxidative stress induced by Wi-Fi (2.45 GHz) EMR in laryngotracheal mucosa of rat. For this purpose, 32 male rats were equally categorized into four groups, namely controls, sham controls, EMR-exposed rats, EMR-exposed rats treated with melatonin at a dose of 10 mg/kg/day. Except for the controls and sham controls, the animals were exposed to 2.45 GHz radiation during 60 min/day for 28 days. The lipid peroxidation levels were significantly (p < 0.05) higher in the radiation-exposed groups than in the control and sham control groups. The lipid peroxidation level in the irradiated animals treated with melatonin was significantly (p < 0.01) lower than in those that were only exposed to Wi-Fi radiation. The activity of glutathione peroxidase was lower in the irradiated-only group relative to control and sham control groups but its activity was significantly (p < 0.05) increased in the groups treated with melatonin. The reduced glutathione levels in the mucosa of rat did not change in the four groups. There is an apparent protective effect of melatonin on the Wi-Fi-induced oxidative stress in the laryngotracheal mucosa of rats by inhibition of free radical formation and support of the glutathione peroxidase antioxidant system.

They can. Though you're far more likely to develop cancer from exposure to cell phones, wi-fi, power lines, etc.

If this is true, then this sucks. Everyday we're exposed to billions and billions of sources of wireless technology. And nobody's going to give a fuck if I get cancer because of this.

I turn off my wifi before going to sleep at night. Considering I sleep eight hours a night, that's at least a third of my day where I'm not being exposed to my own Wi-Fi, but look at all these other motherfuckers who don't turn off their Wi-Fi at night. So even then, I'm still being blasted by wi-Fi

>>8366661
unless 10 years from now everyone is dying of terminal wi-fi induced cancer, then in that case.. whoops

ultimately its just a part of evolution and if wi fi causes cancer its just going to just cull the population thats susceptible to eat over time while humans that dont get it pass on genes that wi-fi induces cancer resistant

Does Wi-Fi increase the risk of developing cancer?

>>8327367
>even if that mechanism were true (and it isn't)
It is.

>microwave ovens
>cancer.
Both irrelevant. Wi-Fi works at the same frequency as microwave ovens, and this effect is observed whether it's GSM-900, 1800, Wi-Fi, etc.

Sorry bud, I don't make the rules. Right now, that's the way it looks, and probably, that's the way it is. Don't like it? Go somewhere else, to some universe that suits you tastes better. As long as you're here, you denial doesn't change anything, nor does trying to shift the topic.

>>8274551
Thinly veiled "wi-fi and cell phones cause cancer" thread.

While carcinogenesis is a bit complex, microwave band radiation most certainly does interact with cellular machinery through non-thermal means, and most of it isn't looking too grand.

What is your opinion on wi-fi as a risk to human health?
I try and see it as a kind of lamp that heats your body up where prolonged exposure can give you a "sunburn".

It shouldn't be able to cause cancer as the energy isn't high enough to be ionizing.

Researching the elctromagnetic spectrum. Shit's weird.
>this can go through solid materials but not this
>this will give you cancer but not this
>mfw realising we are soaked in EMR 24/7

But I can't figure out what determines the range of wi-fi routers and cellphones. In my world the more power you add the longer range but the higher power would also change the frequency?

If she is a doctor in history I'd accept the idiocy.
If she is a medical doctor she should either live in the woods by her logic. Or the Wi-Fi everywhere would give her mega brain cancer. Or she should euthanised.

>We're soaked in radio frequencies all the time. The town radio station. Other people's phones. Emergency vehicles and equipment. Shortwave. Your neighbour's wi-fi, or microwave oven. Wireless cameras, everywhere.

At least half of those have massive warnings about cancer.....

Technology and Science:
- The LHC only brought 10 new questions for each answer. Science made some theorical advancements but we are still very far from a real application.
- Scientists isolated almost all human genes and there's even some big companies buying it's trade rights (like blue eye and blond hair, rare in these days).
- Due to huge improvement of medicine and plenty of researches, every disease of the early century has been cured: AIDS, cancer, parkinson are no longer a problem. The cure is just now getting to the population, however there are some new threats, the most lethal is the virus Ebola.
- The technology now is just stupid, its more sci-fi than never. Computers, cellphones, cams are 100x better. Internet is acessed via wi-fi in the entire world and free. 30% of people now work on their homes via web, because machinery extincted industry and agricultural jobs.