/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15573805
They make us infertile. They cause cancer. They cause neurodegeneration. And then they send their shills to /sci/ to tell us their fields aren't real.

>WiFi Related Radiofrequency Electromagnetic Fields Promote Transposable Element Dysregulation and Genomic Instability
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9776602/

>Exposure to 900MHz electromagnetic fields activates the mkp-1/ERK pathway and causes blood-brain barrier damage and cognitive impairment
>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S000689931500030X

>Increased blood-brain barrier permeability in mammalian brain 7 days after exposure to the radiation from a GSM-900 mobile phone
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19345073/

>Impacts of electromagnetic radiation from cellphones and Wi-Fi on spermatogenesis
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32216233/

>Wi-Fi is an important threat to human health
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29573716/

>Mobile phone radiation causes brain tumors and should be classified as a probable human carcinogen
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25738972/

>>12223114
>Consider the following: say you have a body of experts in some arbitrary field. Certain ideas dominate over others in public discourse and take priority in their minds, setting a sort of paradigm. They are already "fixated" on certain problems and ideas, and this dampens the creative pool significantly. If you couple this with whatever inter-personal politics there are among experts, data-sharing or cooperation will, too, be fixed, which hampers progress. Over long periods of time, these trends will show greater effect. In short, an immortal expert will become a bumbling encyclopedia. We need a form of "hard-erasure" to introduce and investigate new ideas
Just make babies. Also, by lengthening geniuses' lifespans while keeping some of the same helpful characteristics of a certain biological age, our societies can have more geniuses alive at once.
>You can't mean to tell me that we will discover all conceivable ways to combat all cancer variants, or all disease variants
A short answer: no, but actually yes. We can take infinite steps towards that and, as per what I've written before, we don't need the perfect solutions in the steps themselves, just some that are good enough and it wi
ll get better (just like with Kant's justice).
>Neither are you willing to tell me that we will ever reach a time of eternal peace and stasis.
Who cares?

>>12161318
>I have a hard time finding a real hard-hitting paper that makes it clear this is an issue
See the NTP etc papers mentione din th eOP, and check out the papers noted in the pastebin.

>based on the stuff he says you would think that epidemiological studies would show
There have been dozens of such studies since the late 80's with various results, the most consistent of which is markers of oxidative stress, lower sperm count, and DNA damage. Cancer is another matter, more difficult to indicate causation and a number of highly promoted studies had critical methodological flaws, like the Danish study which ultimately ended up putting the most long term heavy users in the control group. The main issue here is modern day there is no control group, the biological effects and habituation process for these exposures doesn't instantly reverse on cessation, and so it could take weeks even if you did have a suitable environment which was free from manmade RF (without attenuating the Schumann resonances). It is njearly impossible to adequately, through self reporting, characterize exposure. The funding required for portable exposimeters for some sort of dosimetry has largely dried up, to my knowledge this has not been done since like 2010.

>And I haven't seen any human trials where they check hormone levels etc. with cell signals vs without
As stated above, there is no longer any access to a control group. You're exposed whether you use it or not.

>it's all rats with ideal microwave stimulus magnitudes higher than typical cell/wi-fi strength.
I'm not sure what you've read, but this isn't the case. A number of studies use off the shelf consumer grade equipment, generally with some program to simulate a typical user's network activities.

>>11580059
>It causes cancer
so i should stop using mi band 3 and wi-fi?

Knott 2009 - Nitric Oxide in Health and Disease of the Nervous System
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2933573/

Belyaev 2008 - Microwaves from UMTS/GSM mobile phones induce long-lasting inhibition of 53BP1/gamma-H2AX DNA repair foci in human lymphocytes.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18839414

Markova 2010 - Microwaves from Mobile Phones Inhibit 53BP1 Focus Formation in Human Stem Cells More Strongly Than in Differentiated Cells: Possible Mechanistic Link to Cancer Risk
https://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/doi/pdf/10.1289/ehp.0900781

Pall 2016 - Microwave frequency electromagnetic fields (EMFs) produce widespread neuropsychiatric effects including depression
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0891061815000599?via%3Dihub

Pall 2018 - Wi-Fi is an important threat to human health
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0013935118300355

[m]Adey 2003 - Evidence for Nonthermal Electromagnetic Bioeffects Potential Health Risks in Evolving Low-Frequency & Microwave Environments
From "Electromagnetic Environments and Health in Buildings", 2004.

Panagopoulos 2015 - Polarization: A Key Difference between Man-made and Natural Electromagnetic Fields, in regard to Biological Activity
https://www.nature.com/articles/srep14914

---------------Blood Brain Barrier (BBB)---------------------

Allan Frey 2012 - Opinion: Cell Phone Health Risk?
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/opinion-cell-phone-health-risk-40449
"Security concerns during the Cold War may have led to the generation of misinformation on the physiological effects of microwave radiation from mobile phones."
Eberhardt et al 2008 - Blood-brain barrier permeability and nerve cell damage in rat brain 14 and 28 days after exposure to microwaves from GSM mobile phones.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18821198

>>11086360
No, microwaves and 5G are not the same power, focus or purpose.

Implying we're all being microwaved would mean you'd ban anyone stepping out into the sun.
Is wi-fi causing us cancer too now?

>>10864260
people are absolutely terrified of "radiation," so that slows progress as well. My mother genuinely believes that she can get cancer from wi-fi, telephones, the radio etc. She walks away from the kitchen every time she needs to use the microwave

>>10768832
it's all here buddy, all peer-reviewed science.
wi-cancer.info
sources at the bottom of each page

like I said, you will never be able to address this website. say bye bye to tranny transmitters!

>>10736599
>energy deposition is the most relevant factor
address the studies in the image in >>10736554

http://wi-cancer.info/notes_antenna_sickness.aspx

>>10722494
i'm the guy that links wi-cancer, not him

>>10722489
>I don't know anything about that site.
So why do you keep linking it in your other spamthreads?
>>/sci/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=wi-cancer

>>10722481
That's not wi-cancer.info you fucking moron

>>10722456
I'm sure wi-cancer.info included the study linked above on their site though yes?

>>10722192
>>10722196
This image, taken from the website you decry, is 100% accurate. Do you know how pH actually works in the body? It's voltage. People with cancer have a much lower pH. Excess voltage delivered to the body via microwaves causes excess acidity, which massively increases your chances of getting cancer.

wi-cancer.info is probably the best resource online for learning about the dangers of 5G + all other microwave-utilizing wifi tech.

>>10722156
>wi-cancer.info
that fucking website holy shit ahahaha

>not one even aware of how modern modulation is even more dangerous than power density
wi-cancer.info

>>10712686
wi-cancer.info
click on the colored squares to go to fully sourced info pages
sources in separate pages at the bottom of each
have fun

>>10712068
Markova 2010 - Microwaves from Mobile Phones Inhibit 53BP1 Focus Formation in Human Stem Cells More Strongly Than in Differentiated Cells: Possible Mechanistic Link to Cancer Risk
https://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/doi/pdf/10.1289/ehp.0900781

Eberhardt 2008 - Blood-brain barrier permeability and nerve cell damage in rat brain 14 and 28 days after exposure to microwaves from GSM mobile phones.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18821198

Pall 2016 - Microwave frequency electromagnetic fields (EMFs) produce widespread neuropsychiatric effects including depression
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0891061815000599?via%3Dihub

Nirwane 2016 - Neurobehavioural Changes and Brain Oxidative Stress Induced by Acute Exposure to GSM900 Mobile Phone Radiations in Zebrafish (Danio rerio)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4843974/

Pall 2018 - Wi-Fi is an important threat to human health
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0013935118300355

[m]Adey 2003 - Evidence for Nonthermal Electromagnetic Bioeffects Potential Health Risks in Evolving Low-Frequency & Microwave Environments
From "Electromagnetic Environments and Health in Buildings", 2004.

Gandhi 2012 - Exposure Limits: The underestimation of absorbed cell phone radiation, especially in children
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21999884
https://ehtrust.org/a-summary-exposure-limits-the-underestimation-of-absorbed-cellphone-radiation-especially-in-children/

-Effects on fertility
Bakacak 2015 - The effects of electromagnetic fields on the number of ovarian primordial follicles: An experimental study
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26043407

Magras and Xenos 1997 - RF radiation-induced changes in the prenatal development of mice.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9261543

>>10706059
>http://www.wi-cancer.info
You come here with sources like that and expect anything but shitposting?

>>10706051
read OP image, source is http://www.wi-cancer.info/antenna_sickness.aspx

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/bmri/2015/607053/

>>10705514
why are swiss re and lloyds of london refusing to insure and issuing warnings to the insurance market?

>If you follow the money, this is HUGE. After all, if these wi-fi techno-toys are so safe, why is Lloyds leaving all this additional money on the table?
>Well, Lloyd’s November 2010 Risk Assessment Team’s Report gives us a solid clue: the report compares these wireless technologies with asbestos, in that the early research on asbestos was “inconclusive” and only later did it become obvious to anyone paying attention that asbestos causes cancer.

>>10704410
http://www.wi-cancer.info/antenna_sickness.aspx

ctrl+F modulation

sources at the bottom of the page

>>10643055
wi-cancer.info
thousands of citations to non-industry funded studies, all peer reviewed

you can be human too anon, educate yourself

>>10642938
wi-cancer.info has literally hundreds of citations and links to scientific, peer-reviewed data that is not funded by the industry

keep in mind the industry does not fund studies that show microwaves cause damage