/lit/ - Literature

>>8583632
booo, stodgy old testament books can flip the heck off, namebros forever anons never

the gospel era of the levant is like the small islamic detour you later take through the history of western civilization, no need to dally there reading up on mosaic code and tribe history, you could read romans if you wanted but it's not required

>>8583360
I only read quarterly summaries of events :=^)

if you can't tell that is me looking down my nose at you

>>8583577
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM

read this instead, feel free to jump around if you start to feel bored

otherwise just read the gospels, jesus they are like a novella and three of them basically just say the same thing, then acts and revelations and you are more or less good to go

>>8583474
Joyce was living abroad during WWI, he had already gone away to France, returned for his mother's death, and left again

The Italian's wanted to conscript him, he somehow got safe passage out of Italy via Switzerland thanks to Britan, but then they turned around and wanted to conscript him for their side, I forget how he got out of it -- I think by WWII he was too blind and feeble and famous to fight

this was back before he could even find a publisher for Dubliners, he was just some unknown teacher, nobody gave a fuck about him aside from where he could be placed to further the war effort

>>8583439
M. Ziz seemed to be speaking of broader identities, in which case I believe he would have been complicit with the fascists as long has was left alone by them, it was both fronts wanting him to fight that lead him to flee Italy if I remember correctly, reluctantly cause the British wanted to conscript him as well, or that might have been WWI

>>8583413
brooding melancholy vulpine in the field, 10/10

no homo

>>8583370
Claim him for any cause you like. You can make a case for either frankly. He certainly was a self-preservationist first and foremost. But Joyce himself would not have wasted time considering how his explicit lack of political identity may or may not have been betrayed by some tacit overlap of the sentiments with the broader machinery of politics, nor how that implicated him as a political figure.

I don't think so anyway. But like I said you could probably make the case that he was a crypto-contemporary leftist.

>>8583283
Yes, his brother actually came along with him though much of early European ex-pating and more or less supported Nora and the children at times. Joyce was a notorious drunk who'd spend the money from his teaching jobs at pubs until he was blitzed out of his mind then stumble home and ignore his family and not write.

There is a book by his brother called My Brother's Keeper. I haven't read it yet, but it is more or less an autobiography of Stanislaus Joyce and his relationship with his brother where he really goes after James and takes a fair bit of credit for getting his brother to at least write, if not take care of his family.

And that was before he started getting noticed by people like Pound and Sylvia Beach, who would front him money and essentially get his career off the ground for him. Even after his success he still wound up broke half the time. He tried to open the first movie theater in Dublin actually--it was tremendous flop.

>>8582795
Considering he made a personality out of ditching his nation and national identity, skirted serving in two wars, decries art in the service of politics in PotA [communist specifically], and railed against Yeats during his one encounter with the man for yielding too much his art to the service of volk identity/nationalism, I think it is safe to say Joyce was consciously apolitical.

Also Joyce had such a romanticized notion of Jews. Like all the negative stereotypes, but he relished those characteristics in them. Prob b/c he was so hostile to nationalism and relished the idea of apostasy.

>>8583113
You should read out loud.

And you should look up the pronunciation of words you are unfamiliar with, loan words and phrases, and especially the particles, articles, and simple conjugations of to be in most foreign languages. Not fumbling at though a simple french or german half-passage will astound anyone that happens to hear you reading aloud--which should be any qt you've got your eye on ;^)

>>8583114
Shakespear was writing fan fiction based off the western cannon and the English monarchy.

Once google has definitively catalogued which out of all images in its street view library contain store fronts, what mountain will they climb next...

>>8583112
The Scylla and Charybdis section of Ulysses.

It's basically Sig. J. A. Joyce giving Shakespeare's plays a flip yet absolutely sincere biographical reading; but which is done in a way that is too suggestive and indecent for me to communicate effectively. Only Sig. Joyce T.D.H. can slip it into your ear with his whispery neatsleather library breath.

>>8582988
No, it really isn't.

>>8579741
Does anyone even go on /b/ anymore? I can't imagine. You hear nothing of it these days.

>>8579224
8 chan is the SASS of 4chan. We should petition S ecret Area of VIP Quality to make us a text board. Or alternatively we should go to 420chan; it was the only imageboard to host a /lit/ for the longest time.

>>8582804
>really the problems come with repetitive, unfunny memes that just serve as board clutter (e.g. baneposting on /tv/). but the fact of the matter is: on Reddit I can post something and it can be downvoted and never seen whereas on 4chan it can be ignored, but everyone's posts come in at the same level.

It's wouldn't be so bad if it were just the /lit/ specific memes that were spammed here. The DFW can't write/was autistic/was the voice of a generation, or the meme trill, or ye olde corn cobbe, or Stimer, or any of the other little lumpinpostentopic /lit/ has managed to cultivate over the years.

I wish we got more crossover from /int/ and /g/ or even /fa/ and /mu/ instead of /pol/ and /r9k/.

>>8567858
He should have completed his BS in Agriculture. Gone back, rejuvenated the soil, produced bumper crops. Bought up adjoining, failing farms, rejuvenated their soils, hired field hands to work his growing plantation. Gone back to school for MA in Agri. Replaced the majority of farm hands with new automated farming machinery. Eventually owning an industrial farming concern spanning the greater part of the tri-county area.

Decades later government pays his children not to grow crops. They take their fat subsidy checks and sell the mineral exploration rights to their vast land holdings for millions.

>>8565389
if you are enrolled in college it is likely that your school has an institutional subscription to t. mr. wsj as well as t. mr. nyt and pretty much every other paper that isn't usa today

>>8564738
what happened to the ones whose mesas have only a dark spot/hole

i hope they are okay and achieved some higher plane of being that the others are all striving for with their work

>>8565507
goodness, here, i responded to you >>8565930

you can stop trying to get my attention

>>8565381
the fact that you would even tell the person you are filtering that you are filtering them is a cry for help, and that is why I am giving you one last pity reply

we both know your soul is deprived, it longs for succor, it longs not to have to preface a declaration of its favorite author with a concession to another [pefumed with condescension of course, but not to save face, to secretly plea for those who know better to show you the error in your understanding without having to come right out and ask why--why does Joyce seem like such impenetrable, allusive busywork to me, what am I missing?]


the only answer is you must stop depriving your soul before deprivation turns to incurable depravity. start taking your medicine anon.

>"I will make you fishers of men."

Whoa whoa whoa, slow it down there Bill Shakespear.

>>8564825
oh you are so full of shit, either that or your soul is shallow...

Not that wolf can't speak deeply to souls at times, briefly, and with a tomboys consequence, but mister anonymous if you don't find the hull of your metaphysical vessel bottoming out at times in her literary waters then, well, you may not be shallow, but you no doubt haven't any slack in your plumb when sounding out Joyce

in fact, I can see how you would come to think the way you do, quite sad really, when you think about it... *tuts softly in a silent room, removes pince-nez, rubs eyes and looks at ceiling, deep in reflexion on the human condition and greater mysteries of life*

>>8564134
based on the title I'm guessing the bible

the title literally means "new birth of the gospel" in latinized greek

>>8562033
still waiting on .epub of chapter 12