/lit/ - Literature

>>9183010
1,2,5,9

They all (1- (is it 10?) have their moments and treats and worths though

The only reason 'one' would/is 'skeptical' of hedonism, is its potential to shorten/degrade the life span (quantity) and (thus, and more) quality.
Threatens the sanctity.

For example, heroin addict, or alcoholic, are these examples of hedonists?
They may lose their job, lose their loved ones, and it may be the argument that what one thinks they are gaining in pleasure, does not make up for what they will lose. And it is a hedging the bets;

"yeah but not evvvverrryyonneee dies from heroin/alcohol/cigarettes/promiscuous sex"

Ok, but there are some statistics that suggest certain 'risks' as much 'rewards' as are there and thought to be there, may have equal or greater punishments.

>>9176778
>but I'm having a hard time linking what you just wrote to what I did.
I sincerely mean no offense by this, but how old are you? Because I am wondering if I should be offended by this

>>9176689
>>9176755
So, are you more saying; There are nations. Nations have governments. Laws, written and unwritten.

The written and unwritten laws of a nation are unavoidably interlinked with the possible aesthetics to be created in that nation?

I personally dont know if I believe that so absolutely, is all, certainly to a degree, if a nation had a law: Every artist must be kept in a cage their entirely life and not allowed to make art. But I think more biologically, different humans from different places and different times, had some artistic styles and inclinations (maybe from different cultures, different laws) and ideas about beauty and aesthetics, that had more and less overlap, similarities?

But still, your point is that, all these aesthetics were created in a realm with written and unwritten laws, we do not have evidence of the possible aesthetics created in a lawless/politicaless realm, therefore you state your statement: Aestehtics is always thoroughly political:

Which hung me up, on the thoroughly part, just how extreme you mean. I was just attempting to venture into my ignorance and argue, not 100%

>>9143758
Its the elites testing The Citizens, We The People's Moral Fibre, And Democracy; "Is the majority stopping us? We, The Government, posted the plans on the news sufficiently, we broadcasted reality to the world, citizens know that reality is broadcasted to the world, so they can be informed so that they can vote, and live.

The Majority, that wants to vote, have a say in What The Government Does; The Government Broadcasted The Plans; The Majority Did Not Stop Them; Democracy.

>>9143758

>>9144553
>Women Suc-
by Marianne Stokes

i like big black cocks

>class-conscious philistines
What did he mean by this?

>>9144688
>It is pretty jazzy
what other types of music do you think relate to his writing? I think of like piano playing in a tea room.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BPobmdFAnqz/?taken-by=rupikaur_&hl=en

>>9143943
Dude, I am seriously sorry for even starting to be negative to you. Was always just trying to be funny. I actually do like your poems, and hope your life gets better and everything gets well, would you mind if I used one of your poems in the book I am writing, if I quote you?

>>9143644
But could he really have, if he himself had to artistically inspired and executed, a very good-great 999 line poem (touching upon at least once styles of eliot, or even more directly, as eliot wrote long poems), could he really hate on eliot, if he (no matter if he felt, 'he wws doing it satirically, or mocking, making fun of poetry teachers? as lolita can be making fun of peadophiles... but this is different, because the poem is about artistic inspiration and quality, meaningfulness, the poem has seriously good qualities, he is not necessarily trying to say that paedephiles have really good qualities, it is just high quality language use,) and yes he didnt need a and ultimately that poems form to showcase his poetic and antiprosaic skills and expressive desires, observations, thoughts even if they are for other characters, potential real or impossible humans'.

so he hates on eliot, but then writes a poem potentially touching upon eliots style, and its considered a masterpiece. Is this simply saying, I can do what you do better than you?

But still, its hard to go line for line and say all the ones that are better, I havent read enough of each to say, but if it is possible nobokv wins, that is deffinitly that, but if there is some decent amount in which comparively, even though wholly the 999 poem is considered a masterpiece as itself, as a poetic work of art, line to line relates relatively line by line, even 20% of eliots lines are better, it would then be, nabookov almost having to admit, your style, and idea, and execution, is admirable, and inspiring, and it is fun to poetically play this way

If Nabokov loved aesthetics so much, what did he think of FW?

>>9143511
>Anon plz, I'm not even that smart and I got a free ride to my state university

Can everyone get a free ride to their state university?

>No, if they cant they are not smart enough and dont deserve our pity

>>9143552
>Is it right to say that Nabokov's characters are a projection of his own more than other authors?
I believe the most scientific way of answering that question is:
How many characters did Nabokov write?
What percentage of what percentage of them do you think are pure Himness, his true thoughts feelings and perspective on things?

>>9143695
Everything is much more simple than you think, and much more complex, start with what is necessary, and then build up from there

>>9135075
How is saying he peaked early not disrespectful and flippantly dismissive of his work that followed it?

And take a joke man, I was just messing around. Do you think I actually care about hurting your feelings or not, or how accurate I was to reality? I saw an opportunity for humor which I never second guess and work on my creativity chops so I took the chance.

Your posts were anonymous. You really didnt read all I wrote... and you were still that bothered? Interesting that me, being so baselessly wrong could strike such a nerve.

GR maybe be 1000 times better than M and D and all his later works, but that still doesnt mean anything really, about M and D as the text it is itself....well yeah... I know it does... trying to objectively compare.... but... its apples and oranges.... Is M and D 5, 100, 1000 times worse? How many people planning to read Pynchon should skip it entirely? Or they should just know/learn from themselves after reading it, that it was x quantites worse than GR, and that it is a shame *looking at you when I say that Tommy * you had all that time, wrote all those books, all those pages and yet, you couldnt even write a better book than GR, fucking disgrace

And that anon was telling me to learn to greentext I presume, for not in the heat of my creative moment taking the time to start a new line, or reformatting it after.

I was also slightly hoping/fearing you are not that anon, but just a fan who wanted to advertise this display of debasement

>>9135349
Woolf's writing lacked periods as if it were going through menopause,,,,,but never for too long,,,, and hey why it men o pause, anyway, cant we women have anything of our own, even our own friggin conditions? What is it supposed to be like,,,"oh,,,man,,,o,,,,men,,,,pause,,,,this could be it,,,,stay still men,,,,, this could be the home stretch,,,,the leaky spigot may soon be fixed,,," Its enough to make one want to scream, and throw things, and act erratic, irrational and like a crazy psycho bitch for no external reason at all even though I may blame my husband,,,,,
"bahh, go jump in a lake"
"dont tell me what to do!!!"

>>9135349
Woolf's writing lacked periods as if it were going through menopause,,,,,but never for too long,,,, and hey why it men o pause, anyway, cant we women have anything of our own, even our own friggin conditions? Its enough to make one want to scream, and throw things, and act erratic, irrational and like a crazy psycho bitch for no external reason at all even though I may blame my husband,,,,,
"bahh, go jump in a lake"
"dont tell me what to do!!!"

>>9135347
Vibrattoisha Coloricus

Coloratura has several meanings: The word is originally from Italian, literally meaning "coloring", and derives from the Latin word colorare ("to color")

>>9130003
Has any major changes taken place, diet, substances/drugs/alchol, sleep patterns, work loads, increase tv/internet time?

at some point, maybe 7 or more years ago now, I stopped thinking about my past before that point, much, pretty much at all. Like it never even happened, figured there was so and too much in the world I was interested in and wanted to obsessively know about, plus nothing happening too ground breakingly special in my youth, and if so, I would write about it and then have no need to think about it again; that I didnt want to waste my time or memory thinking about such things, as I wanted to focus all my attention and potential memory on novel stuff.

And well, maybe I am not a good one to talk to about this, because I pretty much stopped doing anything that would be worthy of remembering, like even going outside much... and imagine working an office job, what much would be worth remembering about the 5x days a week x12?

I hate to say it but it might be a natural part of growing up. You should try to capture all thats valuable to you before you forget it, and then move onto making new, is my ending advice I suppose.

>>9129567
>because progressivism is good
But taxation is theft. 'progressivism' via taxes is attempting to fix a flat tire with a bandaid. What you need to do, is shoot one of the poor people in your trunk, weighing your car down, skin them, let their skin leather on the hood of your car in the noon day sun, and then fashion that into a tire.

>>9129951
Dope, thanks for this man