/lit/ - Literature

With the cycle of Fragapatti (8952 to 5852 BK, being 3100 years), Zarathustra taught man that the All Highest was not found in corpor but in the unseen spirit, and specifically in the Great Spirit, called Or'mazd, meaning Master of All Light, i.e., Wisdom. Wisdom means Wise Dominion. Knowledge is only one part of Wise dominion / Wisdom; Experience is another essential part; Practice is a third; Mind, another; Understanding (an attribute of Intelligence or Mind, still another; Spirit yet another.

Light attends / accompanies Wisdom. And wisdom, aside from being a reality, is an expression; and expression is an attribute of spirit, which we may partly define as a continuous outflow of expression. This is especially evident when the spirit / person is going forth. When the spirit is receiving the spirit becomes an inner glow. The fact that you can see the glow is evidence that spirit is emitting, i.e., expressing. That outflow can thus be very subtle. In any case, whether a person / spirit is in quiet mood or is engaged in industry, that spirit is emitting Vas (atmospherean light), colored by that person's spirit. It is also the spirit that densifies or rarefies the expression, and changes its amplitude and message (impression).

When the spirit is in receptive mode, the person when being observed becomes aware of being observed. Of course those in sufficient darkness can be unaware that they are being watched, either because their mind is being distracted, or because the incoming vortexya from the observer's eyes is not penetrating the darkness of substance surrounding the soul of the observed. In either case, the soul is aware of the incoming vortexya, but then, most mortals are not much aware of their souls as we shall see. And that lack of conscious awareness is true even though indeed they may subconsciously react to the vortexya. This is particularly true of those who eat flesh. In the past many spirits in heaven could live there a long time before awakening to their soul. In Kosmon, the time is coming when such angels will not be in numerical ascendancy. Yet before such things of the soul could be discerned by man, he needed to first become aware of spirit.

>>19151621
Heads up; Ive been up all night, about to pass out. If you respond and thread is still up when I awake, Ill pop back in. If not, it was good talking with you, anon, love and peace to you.

>>19151484
If you want to write one, write one. If nothing else, it may reveal things to you about yourself.

>>19150740
Too busy fucking all (your) women to deal with gay shit like books

>>19151621
As for Buddhism; precisely, on that point, thats a good analogy for how I feel.
As for an objective; maybe, but I try to take cues from emotion. After losing the existential fear of death you had mentioned before, I looked back at my own feelings and tried to understand where any of the negativity comes from. It used to come from existential dread and anxiety, but I recognized that as being somewhat overcome.
All that I see as being left now for a source of negative emotions when I feel them, like a pain in my soul so to speak, all of it is related to suffering. Meaning, the parts I have to grapple with regarding myself, are any element of self-hatred, self-criticism, or self-rejection that I still feel at varying points, and the recognition of it in other people. When I feel these things, it hurts, but when I recognize them in others, it hurts ten times worse for some reason.
I interpret the reason as being that I know deep down it is stupid for me to hate myself in any way, so when I see it in others, its even more distressing because I can relate to how it feels and know, to some degree, their pain.
Maybe that says more about me than about existence, but then again, I am existence. I think it means something that the suffering of others causes me to suffer internally.
So, an objective may be a "scam" in the sense that this is all illusion anyway, but, can a prompting that stems from the emotional panging of one's soul truly be said to be a scam? Like you said before, I have grown to develop an acceptance of so much that I didnt before; life itself, death itself, all of that. Yet, there is still some sort of restlessness or urging, agitation.
And for all the reasons I described, I have to interpret that restlessness, prompted ultimately by emotion, as desiring love from other people, toward other people, and for them to feel it themselves. It could be much ado about nothing, due to the apparent finality of death, but, then again, if it were, i cant imagine Id feel any sort of restlessness given all the other elements of experince Ive since grown to accept.

>>19145870
I meant it in the abstract sense.

>>19151464
Because people like to express their enjoyment of things to the world.

>>19150531
Stop hating yourself, it isnt good for your health.

>>19151512
I would describe that spiritual dementedness as mere lack of self awareness, and argue that most men experience it too.

>>19151491
>>19151491
>You can acknowledge things intellectually without really integrating them.
I agree, and its a good point. The feeling of some kind of dissatisfaction here, and an urging, is something I can relate to and still feel. I often think that stems from acknowledging what I have realized intellectually, without integrating it. All the stuff weve been speaking about, I now understand, but dont understand what to do with or how to apply. When I try to, the conclusions I draw are that I should try to encourage love and positive emotions, beauty, in the world I see. Thats where all that talk came from earlier, I guess love appears, to me, as the proper integration/application of the intellectual observation that things are connected.

I do think reincarnation is what happens, because of my beliefs on what God is. It makes sense to me that if the material is a construct of Mind which is a function of Spirit, then consciousness simply generates new individual units constantly, which means there is no afterlife or essence we return to, just a new life. But that whole part gets real trippy, because, its less like I die and come back as something else, and more like Im not even really an I right now, the only I is Spirit itself, so it wouldnt even be correct to say I come back, I dont really exist as an I in the Spirit but at the same time, through the Mind and the material, I do. In the same sense, you and I exist separately in the material, but in Spirit, there is no degree of separation. which is why I say I love you, and endeavoring to better adhere to my love for you is the highest state of existence, because we are literally each other.
Thats the reason empathy exists, we are separate in the material, but One in the spirit, I can understand your emotions because in that sense, I am no different from you or anyone else.

>>19151456
>I feel like an ego. Just because I have this extreme "death drive" does not make me exempt from the trappings of the human condition or to put it less pretentiously, I'm as much of a petty and self-centered individual as anyone else, I just get less hung up on things because death is always at the back of my mind.
You are fated to be (you) regardless, but if you can see how (you) and everything else are One and All despite being, simultaneously, separate; then thats not ego in the sense that im describing it. What im recognizing now, is an error in my phrasing. Ego is an aspect of reality and of the self, theres no real escaping it; theres just seeing past it and not being able to see past it. Like, ego dominance versus putting your own ego in its proper context with regard to broader importance.
Some people think their ego is all there is, not in the sense of self absorption, but in the sense of not seeing how all energy is connected to all other energy, how its all the same thing.

As for what you said about death; whatre your thoughts on reincarnation?

>>19151439
>It's all paradoxical in speaking.
I have a thread up in the catalog right now about paradoxes.
When I realized the nature of logical unity within paradoxes, I realized more about the things were discussing here than in all the preceding years of my life. When you can understand that "fire both is and is not water, at the same time," or "love both is and is not hatred, at the same time" as being perfectly logical, truthful, acceptable statements, youre on your inevitable path to enlightenment imo.
Even though enlightenment is such a GAY way to phrase it, i dislike the connotation of being superior based on something as silly and innate as mere wisdom.

>>19151318
There are some wonderful, brilliant, self aware women out there, but just like men, they often appear to be in the minority.
Women are more heavily steered by the feminine due to biology, just as men are more heavily steered by the masculine, even though each one contains elements of both, which is why they complement each other when coupled as a unity through love.
As for PUAs and shit, theres actually a LOT of practical truth in how they analyze women. But the women theyre analyzing, are the ones who arent self-aware. When youve a creature guided heavily by the feminine, meaning the emotionally guided and the physically, rationally insecure, youve got most modern women in a nutshell. PUAs problem is that, they are analyzing these women not from the perspective of trying to love them or teaching them to love themselves, but from the perspective of manipulating them for their lack of self-awareness for sex.
That whole thing gets meta as fuck, and is sort of sad, because what draws men toward the sort of sex being offered by PUA tactics, is that they are guided by the masculine, meaning the rationally, physically guided and the emotionally insecure. Men arent frightened by women physically, nor do most men honestly believe that women can out-reason them, but they are often terrified of becoming emotionally vulnerable to one. Women are very secure in their emotions, but fear that men or the world sees them as naive, and they know they are more fragile physically, that they are vulnerable to men in this manner.
So, the whole phenomenon of learning to manipulate unaware women through PUA, stems from being too afraid to simply skip all that fraudulent posturing, and be ones self in front of a woman, because she might not accept what she sees, and most men fear that worse than they fear death.

As for books on the nature of women, Id hate to be that guy, but Nietzsche has good thoughts on the topic. Otto Weinegir or however the fuck you say his name was extremely dramatic and blackpilled about it, but hes another one who had insight into women from the PUA, incelsphere/manosphere angle

>>19151402
Hermeticism supersedes buddhism and hinduism, not in the sense of being superior in quality, but in the sense of being able to accommodate them both.
Buddhism posits that the All is Mind/Spirit, and thus, there is no need for anthropomorphized Gods. Hinduism posits the same thing, that the All is Mind/Spirit, but the conclusion it draws from that is different: there an endless number of anthropromorphized Gods, a God for every concept.

Hermeticism says both are as true as they are false, meaning that both are valid. Make sense?

>>19151384
When you say you feel egoic, would you mind going deeper? I dont want to assume I know how you feel here.
If you cant get past death, you see the door but you dont think conjecture is wise; thats called doubt, man. Id argue that while you can see life and death as illusions, which is a great thing to realize, part of you has not truly overcome the fear of it. Fear of death comes from attachment to the illusion of life.
I do want others to think like I do, but I dont see this as being full of myself, or bad. I love God, which means I love myself, and love everyone else. I do wish others thought that way, too; I wish they loved themselves and thus everyone else and thus God (the trinity). I dont want to control them in any way.
Thats why my style, I sort of just lay out how I feel or what I believe, and let them deal with it however they may. I dont waste too much time arguing it beyond that. I know better than that. These are things in which one can prod people towards, but never "prove" to them, proof doesnt apply here. Its a matter of waking up, a matter of acceptance, or revelation, but not proof.
They have to get there themselves, ultimately.

>>19151401
Because I recognize God as an essence rather than as like, a separate entity or being. Me and Buddhism get along fine.
God is Spirit, Spirit is Mind, Mind is Matter, and so, here we are.

>>19151307
To summarize; an urge is prompted by a state of dissatisfaction with affairs, and Id argue our dissatisfaction is with the state of the soul. We wish others knew that they dont have to be afraid, so we could all love properly. That would be an illusion more fulfilling.

>>19151307
>Do you think that's the end of it? I can't imagine going farther than this.
Well, first off, congratulations, because what it means is that youve learned to treat your ego as an illusion and thus, dissolved it.
If you'll notice, I am often accused of being egotistical for admitting how little we all "know," but there is an obvious irony there. The people doing it, feel a threat to their ego when they hear such things. You and I dont anymore.
As for how to go further, or what comes next: take the Godpill, anon. Not the Christian God or the Islamic God or whatever other human trope, but the real God. God.
The illusion is an illusion because it emanates from something real.
As for passivity, that^ realization made me recognize that I, and everyone else, is eternally, unconditionally loved by our Creator. Human problems come from the majority of humans not recognizing that; what do you get when you are ignorant of how you are loved? Fear, isolation, and discouragement toward the self. Self hatred. Thats what ego really is.
So how to kill apathy? Well, our type is never going to be any sort of industrious builder of great projects in the material, so forget about that lol; but, the urge you feel, Id argue, is the desire to see love more fully represented.
So, endeavor to love them all, by teaching them to love themselves, by showing them that ego is an illusion, and theyve already been loved, considered perfect by their Creator since they were born.

>>19151238
:)
I know and love CTMU. Good eye, anon.

>>19151273
Listen, I only butted in because you dismissed his thoughts as ramblings at one point. So to get all in a twist about "ad-homs" now, is bogus.
Having said that, Im not attacking you. Im saying exactly what you've said, your perspective is different. you yourself admitted you are terrified of death, and he has said he is not. I am not either by now, for similar reasons, so I am more like him. But, you yourself admitted in that same sentence, that because you are afraid of death, this is all beyond you in the sense of it not aligning with how you feel or see things. Which means, you dont understand the concept from the standpoint of feeling it yourself, which is what I was saying when referring to "beyond written or verbal communication."

Also, Im not afraid of death now, but I have been before, so I can empathize with your perspective too even if I dont embody it anymore. Its also why I could follow what you were both describing.
Im not attacking you, Im understanding you as best I can

>>19151225
Ill also say this, though
Resignation comes from acceptance, and thats where youre at now. When you describe a lack of desire to do much, or a desire for it to be "over with." Once you intuitively accept the inevitable, you sort of feel above or beyond it, and it makes you want to dwell in the Mind more than in the world, to get beyond the illusion so to speak, because you now see through it.
But, I would argue thats a phase and a part of it, I have been there and still am.
That resignation, at varying points, though, turns into awe. And thats why you dont just kill yourself, because deep down, amidst the feeling of wanting to get it over with, is awe at all of it.
When I understood the illusory nature of life, it felt pointless and I wanted to move on, too; without depression, or suicidal ideation, like you say. Just move past it, best way to describe it. Like you say
But over time, Ive grown to sit back in awe at all of it, still just as unproductive lol, but with more appreciation for the illusion. I think those phases are a part of these kinds of realizations. Does any of that make sense?

>>19151244
Through paradox
Material reality follows a predetermined flight path
But material reality isnt real
Reality is a self contained construct, quantum nonlocality is that something exists beyond the self contained construct, and that determinism doesnt apply there.
Simulation versus Being

>>19151225
I read all of it, and all I can offer is that you appear to be operating off of intuition and have grown to accept that, fully. Meaning, you accept life as part reality, part illusion, and accept death as the same thing. this results, not in any desire to die or any lack of desire to live life, but in an acceptance of whatever happens as inevitable. I say that based on your descriptions of the feelings, I have felt similar things. If you read what I wrote throughout the thread, we were saying similar things in different ways.
You asked why you havent killed yourself, if you are experiencing the "death drive," and the other anon dismissed the question. But I would argue based on what I read there, that he mistakenly accused you of following this death drive because he takes life too seriously, is too heavily invested in it as "real," therefore your more detached perspective irks him, and to protect himself, he says "this anon must just subconsciously want to die." When in reality, what you are describing is more like a lack of wanting anything, an acceptance of what is and will be. Death included.
I would argue that he does not understand you in a way that goes beyond written communication. You can tell me if Ive missed or hit the mark.

>>19151212
Every lie that someone tells, is part of the truth
I dont have an ideology, I seek to understand. And as far as the manic train goes, the power of intuition is something I find often overlooked. I try to say what I feel rather than I what I think, in recognition of the fact that what I think is a repackaging of whatever I feel anyway. Feelings come from somewhere deeper.

I am explaining these things as best I can, but as I said earlier, theres a reason mystic writing often deals in parable and analogy, or poetics of some sort. Because when trying to strike at the root of things, it is hard to find the proper words. This sort of thing tends to drive more rational minded people insane, piss them off and want to dismiss it, which I understand; but the difficulty of expressing these things, doesnt render it all bullshit or empty.
Ive no ideology to proffer, just my two cents on things.