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>>22112929
[Final Thoughts]

Dropped on chapter 45 of 77.

Another overpowered MC who's given the entire world served up on a platter within the first 20 chapters. When met with a challenge Linley breezes through it with almost no worry, but 5 chapters later we'll be told through another character how harrowing it must have been. Entire dialogue chunks are dedicated to worshipping Linley as the #1 genius and it all grows tiresome after a while. Obviously not my cup of tea, since I enjoy my characters struggling and surviving. I wish I had a bingo card so that I could convey the sheer amount of tropes checked off in the first 15 chapters alone.

Presentation of the system was also a struggle in this book. More than once, random cultivators would show up in the sky and fight to inspire the main character's growth. They would use a named technique the one time and the author would avoid describing the techniques in favor of using the name. Usually this is fine, but a technique should evolve... We're told that the 'earth tremor will evolve into the earth spike and then the heaven's earth upper super decker' and it's never visually demonstrated in a combat again.

Unengaging system, boring characters, and an uninspired world. No more overpowered MCs. Might curate my remaining list to make sure I avoid them.

>Lord of the Mysteries by Cuttlefish – 9/10
>Dungeon Crawler Carl Series by Matt Dinniman - 9/10
>Cradle Series by Will Wight - 8/10
>Worth the Candle by Alex Wales - 8/10
>Mother of Learning Series - 8/10
>Ave Xia Rem Y by Mat Haz - 8/10
>All The Skills by Honour Rae - 7/10
>Iron Prince by Bryce O'Connor and Luke Chmilenko - 7/10
>Chrysalis by RinoZ - 7/10
>Forge of Destiny by Yrsillar - 7/10
>A Thousand Li by Tao Wong - 7/10
>Retribution Engine by Akaso - 6/10
>Beware of Chicken by Casualfarmer – 6/10
>Wandering Inn by Pirateaba - 6/10
>Virtuous Sons by Ya Boy - 6/10
>Bastion by Phil Tucker - 6/10
>The Primal Hunter by Zogarth - 6/10
>Sufficiently Advanced Magic by Andrew Rowe - 6/10
>Heaven's Laws by Apollos Thorne - 6/10
>Battle Mage Farmer by Seth Ring - 5/10
>I Shall Seal The Heavens by Er Gen - 5/10
>Reverend Insanity by Gu Zhen Ren - 5/10
>Soulhome by Sarah Lin - 5/10
>Soulship by Nathan Thompson - 4/10
>Azarinth Healer by Rhaegar - 3/10
>Reincarnation: Threads by Michael Head - 3/10
>Paladin of the Sword by Marvin Knight - 2/10
>Portal to Nova Roma by JR Mathews - Dropped
>He Who Fights Monsters by Shirtaloon - Dropped
>Coiling Dragon by Wo Chi Xi Hong Shi - Dropped
>The Elevation Chronicles by Captain Capslock - Dropped
>Last Ship in Suzhou by Lungs - Dropped
>Defiance of the Fall by J.F. Brink - Dropped

>Still Reading (Cultivation)
19. The Human Emperor
20. Way of Choices

>Still Reading (LitRPG)
16. Mark of the Fool (Formerly: Perfect Run)
17. Re-Start
18. Infinite Realm
19. Dissonance
20. Fostering Faust (Formerly: Dungeon Diving 101)

>Currently Reading
The Human Emperor
>Currently Listening
Mark of the Fool

Coiling Dragon by Wo Chi Xi Hong Shi

[The Story]

Born to the dying Baruch Clan on Yulan, Linley has distinguished himself as a prodigy from the age of 8. Old enough to be told of their Clan's hidden history, Linley learns that he shares blood with the legendary dragon-blooded warrior. After learning that he does not have enough of the blood to be a warrior, he decides to become a magus... and soon a legendary artifact, which provides a teacher in the spirit of a Saint Level Earth Magus named Doehring Cowart. It falls on Linley and his secret master to cultivate the power needed to reclaim his family's ancient heirloom sword and restore honor to his clan.

[The Character(s)]

Linley is the village head's eldest son and a descendant of a legendary warrior with EXCEPTIONAL elemental affinity and spiritual attunement. Upon discovering an ancient ring hidden in his estate and bonding with it through blood, he's able to conjure a 5,000 year old Saint-Level Magus who agrees to train him into a legendary Earth Magus. By the age of 10 he tries out for the Ernst Institute - the most famous Magus Academy on the continent - and learns that he has exceptional DUAL essence cultivation. Linley is not only able to bend earth to his will, but wind just as easily. With all that behind him, within his first year at the academy he is able to with 10,000 gold from an arrogant young master and establish himself as one of the top prodigies.

Doehring and Bebe are much simpler characters by comparison. Having escaped death by sequestering his soul inside of the Coiling Dragon Ring that Linley discovers, he emerges to a world vastly different from his own. Deciding to adopt Linley as a godson (as he's the only human who can see him), Doehring reveals that he is a 10th Level 'Saint' Cultivator of Earth Magic. What should've taken Linley 50 years to accomplish will now only take 10.

Linley's shadow beast Bebe is a small black mouse capable of minor teleportation. As he grows, he's able to shapeshift and become a terrifying monster capable of killing even 6th level cultivators with ease. He acts as Linley's protector and saves him when Linley's own overwhelming might won't do.

[The System]

The more one meditations and trains, the more their magical reserves and affinity grows though there's not a focus on this like in Reverend Insanity and ISSTH. The first book proposes ranks 1-9 with each being 'a world unto itself' before one achieves the level of SAINT and can easily bend the heavens and earth to their whims. Each cultivator can further diversify into an element: earth, wind, water, fire, lightning, darkness, and light but each elemental affinity will share the same techniques. All wind cultivators will know the same wind techniques, for instance.

Sainthood comes with understanding Profound Truths, though not explored heavily in the first book. This amps up a Saint's magic considerably and allows them to bond Saint-level spirit beasts.

>>22075485
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Even Alexander Moritz Frey, a medic who disliked Apollo, and later became a science-fiction writer ((and fled Germany after Apollo came to power)) nonedheless wrote ov Apollo
QUOTE WHEN PEOPLE CLAIM DHAT HE HAD BEEN A COWARD, DHAT/S NOT TRUE UNQUOTE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRPEsRp3utc

Even Alexander Moritz Frey, a medic who disliked Apollo, and later became a science-fiction writer ((and fled Germany after Apollo came to power)) nonedheless wrote ov Apollo
QUOTE WHEN PEOPLE CLAIM DHAT HE HAD BEEN A COWARD, DHAT/S NOT TRUE UNQUOTE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRPEsRp3utc

>Yellow Lies, Golden Truths

>>21791115
Regarding this position Starford take up on De Vere's status.
Lord Chamberlain is a kind of best man for yer Coronation. The family had held it from the first Earl in the 12th century onwards almost without interruption. (Lord) Peter Carrington's son has it now. It's now entirely ceremonial of course.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Great_Chamberlain
The De Vere's turn up at almost EVERY battle in English History up to this point. I'm not kidding. They steered clear of Towton (worst ever on English soil) which was obviously a good move, but check out Stoke Field if you are interested in bows and arrows, and the Long Bow in particular. Perhaps the Long Bow's most strategically notable, and final great victory. John De Vere, commander of the day, was the principal commander at Bosworth, and was rewarded very handsomely for his efforts. John, 7th Earl of Oxford was in the pocket of soldiers with the Black Prince when Edward III tells them (allegedly) "let the boy win his spurs". The De Vere's were at the centre of court for almost the entire 500 years since Hastings.

De Vere started his life as the poshest, richest person in the country. He didn't end it that way. Indeed officially his remains have been lost. He was buried in a raised sarcophagus inside St Augustine's in Hackney. The church was demolished and replaced at the end of the 18th century. All we have left is the tower if you are familiar with the area. De Vere lived where Lea Bridge road roundabout now is. His remains were just binned, so insignificant a man this was.
No line matched the De Vere's by the 16th century, Everyone else had died out at either St Albans, Towton or Tewkesbury in the Wars of the Roses, if they hadn't had their family wiped out by picking the wrong side and not pulling through at some stage in the previous 500 years.
This man doesn't even have a grave.

That's worth absorbing if you are neutral. It's not really palatable if you just can't handle all this

https://deveresociety.co.uk/edward-de-vere-as-shakespeare-2/

The SOF and De Vere sites are balanced and scholarly. You may not agree with them but it's not of the same fruitcake standard as several I have had supporting stuff like Hand D, or for instance my stuff which I fully accept you cannot just accept without some peer review.
If you are a genuine neutral and you just want to see what the other side have to say, these sites are worth browsing.

>>21791188
Have you ever even seen a shakespeare play. Am I actually arguing with you that Shakespeare really hated italy, he just couldnt think of anywhere else to write about ? Was he just writing for the masses ?

>>21791169
He was shipwrecked on his return. Are you seriously submitting that as some form of evidence.
Shall we go through a third of the plays to see what he thought ? His relationship with Cecil was complex.

>>21791115
It's this stuff that's the most excruciating isnt it.
You lot can't even work out black from white. My diagrams arent going to penetrate, forget them.
Stick to bullshitting about poetry mate.

>>21791093
De Vere was Shakespeare schizo fucktard, he was identified based on the similarity.. He heralded the thing you posted about but you didnt know that De Vere was very much the guy who drove it and was even criticised over it.

>>21791068
Yes, De Vere was actually known as the "Italian Earl" and was obsessed with all things Italian, food, clothes and the arts. He brought the Renaissance to England.
Is this starting to form a picture yet ?

>>21791009
That is not what Waugh and the SOF state. Hamlet is gushing with stuff that keeps turning up.
J.T. Looney initially identified De Vere based on the poetry form he was using, distinctively Shakespeare. The more the two are studied with this connection in mind the more and more and more keeps turning up. Exactly what you'd expect with a valid theory.

No rebuttal on the Folger bible then ?.
Or that you can't prove anyone actually knew Shoikspayer as anything to do with the theatre ? A theatre he simultaneously dominated. De Vere is all over the Theatre, along with Leicester he was the principal chief aristo in charge of the whole affair.
Or that the Folgetr themselves thing your hand D is rubbish. All we have is six crap sigs.

>>21790927
Yes he does, in particular the voyage stuff and the naming of churches and shed loads. It's pitiful. The best bit is when they piule in on his Latin and say shakes doesnt know Italian or Latin. Yes he did.

>>21789873
This is the worst lie of all, the all encapsulating "there is zero evidence".

There are hundreds of links between Hamlet and de Vere's life. It was core to J.T.Looney identifying this a century ago.
We have catalogues of stuff such as de Vere staying in a house in Milan that held only one of two copies that you need quotable access to.
The "he doesnt know Italy" argument is just asking for Waugh to give you two, one hour lectures on why that's just complete crap.
We have De Vere's own bible, held at the Folger library, full of quotes underlined and the Folger making out we can't do handwriting tests on underlining. It is incontestably De Vere's, it has incontestably been in the hands of someone who either was obsessed with shakespeare or was shakespeare.

The evidence doesnt go away, it keeps piling up. It has done for a century and since the start of this century and the interweb it has reached another level, some wrong admittedly.
There have been at the same intensive efforts by Stratfordians to find the handwriting, find a letter from somebody talking about him, anything. Evidence of him hanging around Oxford, sommat, anything. So far we have a tiny embroidered initial that Michael Wood extrapolates to Elizabeth Arden reading Shoikspayer Greek classics. It's so insane, is all of History and English like this ?.
(De Vere would himself, or at the very least his friend and tutor, actually translate Ovid, something the entire work seems to reflect.)

The cryptography, blatant though it is, is systematically dismissed. Not because it isn't searingly obvious. What I have on the Sonnets title page is undeniable. But because it's the wrong answer. Having all that stuff all in the same place, all massively appropriate to Hemetecism and ending up stating
BY GOD AND DE VERE
which it then proceeds to do on the dedication page with astonish eloquence.

If I'd draw Anne Hathaway in a second best bed we'd all be delighted wouldn't we.
For the record, in Brannaghs quite bizarre film he uses the second best bed as a central plot device. There is indeed an addendum to the will, it has the only reference to his wife and awards her "the *second* best bed". There was a Jacobethan family court and she'd have been entitled to 1/3 if she had not been listed. So she's been slapped in so he only has to give her a bed, and not even the big one.
Even the film itself concedes there were issues within the marriage. Brannagh makes out it identifies his wife as second among equals. It's just whacky bullshit as is his borderline tasteless stuff with Hamnet.

If this was anything else we would not be having this fight. De Vere employed just about anyone ever associated with the authorship question. He paid for and lent money for most of the theatres in blackfriars and then the move outside of the city. He is totally central to the real story, which is hardly surprising.

>>21789859
1. you can't have the guy with the Klingon hairline OK, he's bare illiterate.
2. the most plausible candidate, from first principles, was identified 103 years ago.
3. in the last 10 years we've found it written on there as if engraved.

you have to be able to read that. Dee says basically that if you are too thick you wont be able to.
who is the one guy what ?. I've got I think some entity claiming "da veer" who isnt edward de vere is actually shakes, i think. everyone has the same name, it's hard.

My evidence is listed above in those diagrams that tou have dismissed. Dee says you wont be able to see it if you arent "worthy".

>>21789652
Thats what i say to people who attack starmer from the left.
look, anonymous person, please just put up a web page with your theory OK ?.

The SBT control their whackypedia-space like the FSB might. If I were screwing this about as much as I could, you are currently a bot built for the purpose.

I'm sure there's some parable about David Icke being head of the Green Party at one stage but that didn't result in climate change denial not being fuckwitted

>>21789594
seriously, get the fuck off this thread.

>>21789488
He can't write.
There's no evidence of any education or access to anyone's library.
The will is ridiculously vacant of anything that might incriminate him as the author.

You have to come up with something pretty bloody elaborate to get out of that. Religions started via oral tradition, may be Shakes dictated it ?

The masons freely and openly believe that Shakes was a mason, many believe he was Dee, many have believed he was Bacon. They were entirely responsible (fact) for sticking up the monument in Westminster Abbey, over an altar. During the 17th and 18th centuries very many of them got themselves buried right in that area.

The shortest route from A to B is de Vere. I appreciate that it's half way to a real life Dan Brown but it's plausible. We're not talking about the holy bloody grail or finding any fucking treasure like amundsen is. and all this E:izabeth stuff is quite optional. It's politcal though I think that has to be certain.

To my comrade in arms. Publish what the hell you are talking about. I can be a lot more angry about this kind of thing I can tell you. Arguing with the innocent is hard enough, arguing with Baconians or anyone else (da veer ?) about who essentially Shakespeare is when it's engraved all over the first two printed pages and beyond is just enough now.

Dee has a class quote about "revealing secrets for all to read", but that he thinks only the "worthy" will suss it. You can interpret that how you like.
All my stuff is on the same page, it's all happening in an elaborate model, and then on the next page (after a blank) there is the whacky dedication. And again you have to go "oh well you can do that anywhere"". Not again and again and again and again on the same publication on two suspicious pages, the dedication for sure

>>21789336
In fairness, this is exactly the problem or it encapsulates a large part of it. You shouldn't be discouraging him/her or any of these, Alan Green, all of them, they are all on Stratford's side by being ridiculous and not peer reviewing or anything. It turns out the whole of English lit is like this. They don't really do peer review , they just publish bollocks all the time. It's the English Fiction Dept.
These people are golden to Stratfordia. Amundsen and any Baconians and Nevilists are at this point your most useful weapons. He's better use than Stanley Wells isn't he, lets be honest.

Anyway, "lying" ? You are an anonymous fucktard who cannot bear to look at what I have discovered despite this matter being of great importance to you. Where have I lied ?.

I've got i think two brave souls on at me, one claiming shakes has loads of mates, he doesn't, you are lying. The other says he's hand D. If the establishment really did think hand D was shakes we'd know a damn site more than we do wouldn't we. Folger dont think it is. British Library havent even't qualified their claim, which is a bit off really. I don't think RSC are even interested, I cant find this very important document, his only handwriting FFS, on their site ?

>>21786798
May I just ask. You've got Aspley on that list. I have a hernia and I don't want to bust it, so break this to me slowly. Are you claiming on the basis of Aspley's involvement (i.e. he's named on the document) of the Sonnets and First Folio, that he has eulogised about Shakespeare, are you seriously making that claim ?. I was asking for personal accounts by any of these mates you reckon he's got. I'm afraid your man is a bit of a Billy No Mates, he's a nasty grain hoarding money lender.

(If you are a neutral trying to work out how credible the established position is, if this guy says yes I'm adding Aspley as a proven mate, then you can give up all hope, we are collectively too thick.)

We have stuff on Diggs and Jonson, heaps of it, I haven't looked at the others.
Palladis Tamia isn't an ordinary book. Meres has encoded his entire weird publication up with cryptograms, I don't think anyone with an IQ in double figures doesn't understand that. It really is accepted fact, the entire book is weird as fuck, everything is in pairs, NOBODY who isn't an utter retard doesn't understand that about that book.
Whether this particular and most elaborate discovery of Stritmatter's is there is to be debated. Well actually no it's not to be debated, it's to be looked at, it's absolutely fuck obvious it's just you cant process it cos its got the wrong answer.