/lit/ - Literature

>>2769624
Lacking the necessary skills to appropiate a coherent word to express the idea you want to express would make you a "pleb" in your own terms.

<<< my thoughts when reading OP

>>2770419
I did it once... nevermore,bro. Nevermore

>>2770274
>the passages about Gately's first experiences with Alcoholics Anonymous, about his difficulty in understanding the paradox at the core of the programme: how it's trite slogans and shallow aphorisms, if followed blindly, will produce profound and meaningful results. The key, as Wallace - through Gately - notes, however, is this blind following, the purging of the ego, the transcendence of the self - a key theme (according to that interview) of DFW's writing - and it is only though this that healing can begin.

I haven't got around reading Wallace yet but I wonder if there is any essay about Wallace in relation with Kierkegaard's philosophy. You know, the leap of faith, though directed to a different abstract.

>>2769967
Your description got me hooked, you should work on the publishing industry hahah. Thanks man, really.

>>2769957
Very much appreciated. I will make sure of reading some history of Brazil before reading Andrade.
I have read some Saramago in spanish (El año de la muerte de Ricardo Reis y Las intermitencias de la muerte). I might give it a try in portuguese

>>2769945
Ah thanks, I posted before your answer appeared. Any particular reason for your choices (just to know what to expect)

>>2769925
I can understand written portuguese to a decent extent so give me te recommendations as if I were to read theme in portuguese, not in translations

>>2769886
If I could only read one Portuguese and one Brazilian author in my entire life, wich two would you recommend? (the same question goes for the anon you're having a conversation with)

>>2769852
Ok then: methaphysical bs*

Oh, please don't turn this thread into a racial fight... I don't know enough to answer >>2769843 but I am curious about that.

>>2769838
Ok, I understand now. Just a bunch of arbitrary mystical bs

>>2769826
>Lying is not a masculine quality, for it is dark.
Frankly, I don't understand that reasoning, keep going.

Also I don't find the whole of Pessoa's work as effeminate (I hav read him in spanish and english though, not in portuguese), but I agree a hundred percent that Soares is somewhat effeminate but very interesting philosophically, and if you have ever suffered from large periods of depresion that lead you to apathy then his thought make a lot more sense

>>2769782
I agree with you, I am sure he is not that complex. However, although writting in different manners doesn't make YOU different it does make your character different (otherwise it wouldn't be possible to create a variaety of characters in a novel, for example). So, I guess what he said is valid, you just took it in a way too literal manner.

>>2769752
Somehow, it is the journal of one of Pessoa's heteronyms. So, yes, basically a journal that hardly ever includes passages of outer events, gravitating, instead, around the internal life of the heteronym (Bernardo Soares)

>>2769758
The one you prefer. I am just familiar with a few apart from Soares. Ricardo Reis is an interesting one, alike to Soares in it's philosophical character but much more serene (just an opinion anyway, as I said, I am not that familiarized).

“Friends: not one. Just a few acquaintances who imagine they feel something for me and who might be sorry if a train ran over me and the funeral was on a rainy day.”
― Fernando Pessoa, The Book of Disquiet

Care to discuss this book/author/anything related, /lit/?

Not excited about Sufjan but the simple expectations arised by that mixtape gave me an almost boner, /mu/. no homo

>>2764794
The gnostic interpretation of Judas is very interesting and makes me think of Satan as portrayed on Paradise Lost. Judas being, basically, an epigone of Satan.

>If the Universe and any other possible Universes (everything) can be grasped by the concept of one (one infinity, one everything). Am I wrong to conclude that the Universe (everything) is inherently alone.

I think that would be the conclusion (supposing that interconectedness is total and there is nothing completely isolated from the rest.

>And how does consciousness play into this? Is "we are the[re] for the cosmos to know itself" falsifiable?

Here I would be more precautious. The fact that a part of the universe is capable of percieving a part of itself doesn't immediately mean that such is the purpose of said part: Capability is not equateable to purpose (or at least that's how I understand it)

>Is consciousness part of the cosmos, yes? So does it mean there is one infinite consciousness (and which due to oneness is also intrinsicly alone?) It sounds like bs, but I'm too dumb to see the fault in reasoning.

I think I am probably just as dumb but I will give it a try following on my previous conclusions. At the time we know this: parts of the universe have certain level of consciousness (including humans) but other parts don´t seem to have such (including rocks). Our direct perception is limited to that wich our senses allow us, and every other indirect perception is derived from the informetion percieved by the senses. That makes the consciousness a fragmentary phenomena; the conscience of a dog is radically different from ours. I am about to walk in circles here... Anyways, that would make me say there is no "one-consciousness" belonging to the universe since the universe is not the one conscious, rather a part of it is. So my answer would be, no...

Pd. OP is a faggot

I am betting for an idea here:

An online systematic catalogue with 4 colour boxes and a little story.
1st. colour box: eye
2nd. " " : lips
3rd. " " : nipples
4rd. " " : vagina's inside

"Lily is a 19 yo, this height, blah blah. When I took her to bed she wanted to try anal beads, etc"

It's a shame that I'm a lazy man... it could have some artistic value

>>2753077
I got an almost boner. I wonder if colour boxes can be r54d

>>2753489
I am not discussing wether one or the other made more advances in literature and te exploration of human nature. I just thought that you thought that the other anon was saying that absurdists and Joyce were linked. In response I was telling you that the other anon didn't say they were linked, he merely opinionated that the absurdists were the ones worth studying as an influence. Sadly I haven't read Joyce yet so I can not give an honest opinion about how they compare. I do agree with you that Amerika and The Trial are genius works of literature, and some of Kafka's short stories like "In the penal colony" are also amazing

>>2753328
>Are you saying that Joyce's sort of affirmation (which broadly speaking could be said to be 'existential') can be linked to absurdism? Why? Isn't there important differences between the stranger and Ulysses.

I don't think he ever said Ulysses was linked to absurdism: >If you're an aspiring writer then the 20th century writers you do want to study in detail are the "absurdists", particularly Kafka and Beckett.
I don't see how he linked Ulysses to absurdism, he actually said that the ones worth reading are the absurdists (that and the critique he is making about Ulysses actually imply the opposite)

>>2753387
>You have two things to do to stop this being a shitpost, op: (1) explain what it could possibly mean to write as if the language/form one was writing in were dead, and (2) explain why the fact that a work of literature is written as if its language/form is dead affords any reason to think said work is a bad influence on other writers.
About Milton he might mean that he wrote in an archaic use of english wich was pretty effective in Paradise Lost, given that the biblic story of the genesis is itself something supposed to have happened many many years past. That being said, using archaic language to tell a story unfolding on the present might be a terrible decision

See? This is how an actual educated observation is made. >>2731601