/lit/ - Literature

It's Camus, guys, not Kant or Kierkgaarde. He is basically for this sort of thing

>>12765621
Imagine the Old Testament edited to be coherent and without clutter (genealogies and so on removed, and the laws not being boring) and the narration told by God in the first person. Although that doesn't quite do the Quran justice, since in Arabic much of it is in rhymed verse and is held by most relevant academics to be the greatest work of Arabic literature.

Basically a we wuz tier agitator until he went on the Hadj and then realized he was a moron and became honestly mature so his former friends killed him

>>12765066
Enjoy

>>12765086
God is the only English translation of Allah and not really objectionable, even if not a perfect translation. Although I am not a fan of Sufism

>>12765042
I will check it out, thank you

>>12765034
The Arabic is poetry and was always created with an intent to verbalize. Muhammed was illiterate after all

>>12763530
Allah is generally preferred by Muslims because it has no plural form

>>12764359
Dunno

>>12763384
I am not a Jew

Would you say that the depiction of God in the Old Testament is a bit weird and goofy (as opposed to His depiction in the Quran)?

>>12760430
>In other parts of his books Nietzsche calls Islam another form of slavery by religious law.
No he doesn't

29:46

>Dispute not with the People of the Book save in the fairer manner, except for those of them that do wrong; and say, We believe in what has been sent down to us, and what has been sent down to you; our God and your God is One, and to Him we have surrendered.'

>And argue not with the People of the Scripture unless it be in (a way) that is better, save with such of them as do wrong; and say: We believe in that which hath been revealed unto us and revealed unto you; our God and your God is One, and unto Him we surrender.

>And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, except with means better (than mere disputation), unless it be with those of them who inflict wrong (and injury): but say, "We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you; Our Allah and your Allah is one; and it is to Him we bow (in Islam)."

>>12762474
I don't speak or read much classical Arabic but I am learning

>>12762028
Is Maududi worth reading?

Favorite Quran translation?

The main three in English are by Arberry, Pickhall and, Yusuf Ali (well actually the most common one is the Hilali-Khan translation, although that is completely due to Saudi shilling).

Arberry isn't a Muslim, although it is his field of expertise, which lead him to title his translation "The Koran Interpreted" (reason being is that Muslims don't consider translations of the Quran to be properly the Quran). It is a pretty literal translation and is widely extolled by academics. It aims to be beautiful and it certainly is, even if you aren't a Muslim you will deeply enjoy reading this translation.

24:33
>And let those who find not the means to marry be abstinent till God enriches them of His bounty. Those your right hands own who seek emancipation, contract with them accordingly, if you know some good in them; and give them of the wealth of God that He has given you. And constrain not your slave-girls to prostitution, if they desire to live in chastity, that you may seek the chance goods of the present life. Whosoever constrains them, surely God, after their being constrained, is All-forgiving, All-compassionate.

https://archive.org/details/QuranAJArberry

Pickhall was a talented English writer who converted to Islam. He titled his faithful translation, "The Meaning of the Glorious Koran". It's the one I prefer.

>And let those who cannot find a match keep chaste till Allah give them independence by His grace. And such of your slaves as seek a writing (of emancipation), write it for them if ye are aware of aught of good in them, and bestow upon them of the wealth of Allah which He hath bestowed upon you. Force not your slave-girls to whoredom that ye may seek enjoyment of the life of the world, if they would preserve their chastity. And if one force them, then (unto them), after their compulsion, lo! Allah will be Forgiving, Merciful.

https://www.sacred-texts.com/isl/pick/index.htm#contents

Yusuf Ali was a Shi'ite who converted to Sunni Islam. He was ardent Anglophile, which lead to his translation. The House of Saud endorsed this translation briefly before switching to a more Wahhabist translation.

>Let those who find not the wherewithal for marriage keep themselves chaste, until Allah gives them means out of His grace. And if any of your slaves ask for a deed in writing (to enable them to earn their freedom for a certain sum), give them such a deed if ye know any good in them: yea, give them something yourselves out of the means which Allah has given to you. But force not your maids to prostitution when they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is Allah, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),

http://www.islam101.com/quran/yusufAli/

Stimulation/pleasure, or learning, or spiritual meditation, or a combination thereof

>>12728415
I would not say it is overtly about carnal stimulation, but I would agree there is an unconscious erotic element in the work. I would also not say feminism is about expressing female craving for domination in a socially approved way so much as a way for women to compensate for their insecurity over their desire to be ruled. Similarly militant atheism is about insecurity over the desire--and need-- to be ruled by something above humans

The significance of Sura 33 of the Quran

Muhammad's (PBUH) marriages to Aisha (who became the most important wife for giving accounts of the Prophet's life in the Hadiths) and Zaynab bint Jahsh (whose marriage annulled her husband's status as the Prophet's son) were both about ensuring Abu Bakr's succession to the Caliphate.

Here is Abu Bakr on the rules of war

>Do not commit treachery or deviate from the right path. You must not mutilate dead bodies. Neither kill a child, nor a woman, nor an aged man. Bring no harm to the trees, nor burn them with fire, especially those which are fruitful. Slay not any of the enemy's flock, save for your food. You are likely to pass by people who have devoted their lives to monastic services; leave them alone.

>so what comes after postmodernism???

The Gospels might lack polished prose, but the story is beautiful. Also they tie in somewhat to pick related, which is high literature.

>>12709471
>>12709471
Yes, it is in a letter, not that interview

>>12709457
Napoleon said he wanted to be remembered as a law bringer rather than a conquerer

>>12709414
Letter to the Reverend Ensor Walters (1933), as quoted in Bernard Shaw : Collected Letters, 1926-1950 (1988) by Dan H. Laurence, p. 305

George Bernard Shaw wrote

>But the Europe of the present century is far advanced. It is beginning to be enamored of the creed of Mohammed. I believe that if today an autocrat of Mohammed’s caliber assumes world leadership, he could solve all problems of humanity splendidly. The world will become an abode of peace and happiness. I predict that tomorrow’s Europe will embrace Islam.

Did you know that Nietzsche also lavishly praised Islam, which today seems a rebuttal to his fear that God is dead And Napoleon too considered Islam the greatest of all religions and praised even in his exile.

By existence you mean Dasein?