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>>7104045

An unfortunately small but still existent number of socialists are all about that free market. I don't think Agorists would technically consider themselves socialists, but they're definitely left leaning, and their whole thing is "black markets will kill the State."

>Age: 21
>College/University you attend/attended: Marietta College, Ohio (1 semester)
>Highest level of education you have achieved. What major/minor?: Declared as double majoring in Physics and Math and minoring in Astronomy. Dropped out after first semester.
>Current Job: I moved to a rural commune and now do mostly dairy farming and woodworking.
>Literary ambitions?: None, kek.

>>6736649

Scandinavia isn't socialist, but socialism doesn't preclude market economics.

>>5864422

I did something similar. I dropped out of college and moved to a rural commune. I haven't done as much reading or writing as I thought I would (see: none), but I feel contented living a simple life with people I've grown to love.

>>5853061

I went for a semester on a scholarship. All of my idealistic notions about how mentally stimulating and exciting college would be were quickly shattered, and I realized that I wasn't as much of a head in the clouds intellectual as I made myself out to be.

I ended up dropping out and moving to a rural commune, and so far, I'm still gauging that as a good decision. I don't think college is universally worthless, but it wasn't the place for me, at least, not at the time.

>>5836907

I've read The Dispossessed, so far. I live on a rural commune, so it was interesting to notice parallels between her positive and negative portrayals of Stateless communal life and what I experience every day.

I'll probably start The Left Hand of Darkness pretty soon.

>>5832126

GG

>>5832101

I took a similar route. I dropped out of college after my first semester and moved to a rural commune. I've been here just shy of two years, at this point.

While I still have to deal with people on a regular basis, I'm just not the type of person to get stressed out about things. I guess there are a few people who live here who rarely interact with anyone else, though.

>>5808631

My year round work includes the dairy, the tofu factory, log sawyering, and making the frames for our hammock chairs.

In the spring and summer I also varnish those chair frames, and in the winter I woodsplit.

I generally don't have that much scheduled work. I get between three and four dairy shifts a week and maybe two or three tofu shifts, and woodsplit shifts in the winter, but besides that, everything else I do is pretty much whenever I feel like it.

>>5808595

>oh my fuck the last time I saw you post was 2 and a half years ago and on /pol/!

Yeah - I've been back on a decent amount over the last few months.

>How hard is it to get in?

You have to do a three week visitor period. We reject a pretty low percentage of visitors. Basically, as long as you make quota and aren't completely socially inept, you're probably fine. We're at pop-cap right now, though, so I think the waiting list is pretty long.

I had a Physics scholarship and was ostensibly double majoring in Physics and Math and minoring in Astronomy.

I dropped out after the first semester and moved to a rural commune, though, so I don't know if it's fair to say I actually "studied" a subject at college given the time frame.

>>5276402

>any /lit/izens really love their jobs?

Mhm. I do quite a few things, but most of my work is in dairy farming, log sawyering, tofu production, and furniture varnishing.

>if so, how did you get into that field?

I dropped out of college and moved to a rural commune.

>>4918920

I grew out of capitalist apologetics, but I ended up re-emerging as a Mutualist. I definitely flirted with Collectivist Anarchism and Anarchist Communism for a while, though, and I still draw heavily from them.

>>4650192

Or an only semi-filthy hippie.

>>4583813

>Such as the interview process

Where I am, you first do a three week visitor period. During the last week of this, you do an interview with the membership team. After all that, you leave for a month and reflect on how you liked the place while the members give input to the membership team. The membership team makes a decision and notifies you. Then, given that there's an opening, you can come back as a provisional member. After six months of provisional membership, another round of input is had to make you a full member.

>first impressions

I don't know. I suppose I just thought that the place was interesting. I liked that, if I moved here, I wouldn't have a boss and would be able to set my own schedule.

>>4583796

>So you just gonna tell us any details about how you did this?

A friend of mine had mentioned this place a year or two earlier in casual conversation. I googled it, did a three week visitor period, and was accepted for membership. The basic deal is that you work 42 hours of week in areas of your choosing, and, in return, you get all the basic amenities (food, housing, healthcare, cars, vacation time, etc.) as well as a monthly allowance.

>I'm assuming it's a european commune?

Nope. Virginia.

>Do you still work?

Yup. I mainly do log sawyering and dairy farming.

>In a co-op?

Our businesses are indeed organized as cooperatives.

I attended college as a Physics/Math double major & Astronomy minor for a semester. Over the course of that semester, I realized two things.

1) I hate learning in a classroom setting.
2) I don't ever want a job.

After not taking any of my finals, I dropped out and moved to a commune. It's definitely not for everyone, but I've been here for a year now, and I'm definitely still enjoying it.

>>4559646

There are plenty of free market supporters who are explicitly anti-capitalist or self professed socialists. In fact, people like Warren and Proudhon posited that freed markets were the only effectual means of actually fulfilling the cost principle.

>>4559603

See the second half of (>>4559600)

>>4559583

The Wikipedia article is a good place to start.

With the exception of the Kropotkin book, all of those mentioned in this post (>>4559010) deal explicitly with Mutualism, Individualist Anarchism, or their modern outgrowths. All of them can be found, for free, online.

Additionally, c4ss.org is a think-tank centered around free market anti-capitalism.

>>4559587

It's more in relation to organizational theory and systems of property maintenance. Free market anti-capitalists generally profess that market forces would naturally select for cooperative and self employment over wage based production. Additionally, while Mutualists/Individualists and AnCaps agree on the homesteading principle, the former generally adopts occupancy and use rights (along with varying forms of the LTV) while the latter generally adopts neo-Lockean standards (along with the STV).

>>4559543

The free market anti-capitalist tradition is actually pretty rich. You had the Mutualists in Europe and the Individualist Anarchists in America. Both of these systems have been heavily revitalized within the last ten years.

>>4557245

Check out the early American Individualist Anarchists.

Instead Of A Book, By A Man Too Busy To Write One -- Benjamin Tucker

Mutual Aid - A Factor of Evolution -- Peter Kropotkin

Studies In Mutualist Political Economy -- Kevin Carson

Organization Theory -- Kevin Carson

Markets Not Capitalism -- Gary Chartier