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>>5098620
sure. I suppose I would be critical of the conceptual / empirical distinction in the later Wittgenstein, as I would be about most of the dualisms he sets up. It's been a while since I've thought about these things. Someday I'd like to attempt an immanent critique of the Investigations

>>5098607
grammatical terms, however, per Wittgenstien, have a reality in material social reality, a Lebensform; they structure that reality and are a part of it.

>>5098575
idk, I mean this quote you have, in and of itself, is sort of Wittgenstein's philosophy, insofar as it posits itself as a purely conceptual investigation.

"metaphysics" is such a boogy-word though that I don't know what you mean

>>5098551
something like that - by materialism I mean a certain sort of dialectical empiricism, what Adorno would have called the primacy of the object over the subject, which on the other hand does not mean that the object, as it immediately exists, is the ultimate truth, but that it itself, even in its primacy, must be understood according to its subjective mediation.

>>5098538
well yeah, but I think Hegel if pressed, forced to be more Heglian than he himself is, becomes materialist. This is basically Adorno's immanent critique of him.

>>5098522
Hegel cum materialism; probably I'm more of an Adornian than anything.

>>5098500
gotcha. I'd oppose Wittgenstein but I'll take him over that any day. I had to sit through this talk at a school I was visiting as a prospective on philosophy of mind and it was just pure neuroscience. I wanted to shoot myself.

>>5098467
what do you mean by new materialism? like that neo-Deleuzian "speculative realist" stuff or some sort of analytic scientistic reductionism?

>>5098432
yeah Wittgensteinians will also tell you how much they lament the lack of influence Wittgenstein really had on the course of analytic philosophy, which empirically is true. There is certainly, for all Wittgenstein's inadequacies, a certain number of paths philosophically that Wittgenstein closed off which nonetheless are being relentlessly pursued

edgy

Hegel, Schelling, Kant's opus postumum if it counts, Marx, then I guess Nietzsche

>>5082133
>Wellington

lol

>>5082113
idk why i'm here. i've got a headache and don't feel like reading hegel.

still ready to admit you can't even get into high school gay boobs?

>>5082105
>thinks twelve tone music is "classical music"

>>5082097
Foucault was a Zionist anyways you know.

and is shiity and undialectical so u kno

>>5082073
there's no dissolving the opacity out of it - but it's opacity derives not from a lack of precision but the opposite. There isn't really an easy way in but this might be the least difficult:

Try:
Lectures on Negative Dialectics
Lectures on Sociology
Critical Models

and then jump in Dialectic of Enlightenment and Negative Dialectics and Aesthetic Theory or whatever.

sounds about right

der Weltgeist

ha ha wow waht does this eeven mean

>>4795798
yeah i guess i realized i have better things to do with my time like actually writing papers and having real conversations with my colleagues than having 'shitpost-free' conversations on 4chan, know what i mean? like what's the point? like go out in the real world and have a drink with someone smart and get away from here if you actually want to talk about anything worthwhile

>>4795787
idk i realized i don't like this place except insofar as i can make people upset. plus i've been busy applying to grad programs / trying to finish my BA while visiting grad programs. i was never that great bro didn't i just always troll people? idk.

>>4795761
to be fair i turned princeton down (some other mediocre humanities program than philosophy), gonna be studying philosophy at u of toronto in the fall

>>4795757
yeah i know but i don't really care. this has been a stressful week waiting to hear back from grad schools and now trying to figure out how the fuck to move to canada but you know

>>4795752
i got into princeton bitch what do you even know