/lit/ - Literature

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So far we've read Gilgamesh, Theogony, Works and Day, and the Iliad. This week we'll be reading five plays. Ajax. The Trojan Women. The Oresteia, which is a trilogy. The reason we're reading these before the Odyssey, which is next week, is because they form a narrative bridge between the Iliad and the Odyssey.

Here is a link to the a pdf download of the complete Greek drama
http://en.booksee.org/book/1037486
I have this in hardcopy, I like most of the translations.

For alternative translations, and those who want epubs, here are some

http://aaaaarg.org/thing/51c5856f6c3a0e090cb60700
That is a pdf which has an alternate translation of Ajax

http://aaaaarg.org/thing/52765d393078885b62000009
That includes a Fagles translation of The Trojan Women, it's an epub

http://aaaaarg.org/thing/51c58dd26c3a0ec1113e1400
Here is an epub of the Oresteia, translated by Fagles

This is also a general Iliad discussion thread, seeing as we just finished reading that. If you still haven't quite finished with it, don't worry too much, because these combined dramas are shorter than the Iliad, and you'll probably be able to finish up the Iliad and read them all in one week if you're lagging.

>>5599779
>race
>not identity politics
lele

>>5599763
Cancer and AIDS?

>>5597458
>Proletarianism
>not identity politics
lel

>>5599713
Capitalism doesn't reward shit writing, it just makes it all about marketing.

>>5599707
Cormac McCarthy is the only contemporary author I know of who can write great work that the masses enjoy.

1 Direction doesn't make good music but gawd they are hot. Will see the movie, might by the book if it's good. You all know that if there was a book being published and a movie adaption of female pop singers with lots of sex in it, you would see it, perhaps even read the book.

Origen

>>5599541
Academics, dipshit.

Do you mean Hegel's, or dialectic altogether?

>>5599517
No, they said it was for starting a sculpture thread, which is off topic.

>There's also no history board, or philosophy, or geology or a whole host of other potential boards.
Geology is classed with science.

Can you imagine how shit a philosophy and history board would be on their own? A philosophy would draw a bunch of new age stoners who aren't crazy enough to be part of /x/, and a history board would just be blooded by a bunch of military fanboys asking 'who would win in a battle between x and y'

>>5599515
Music that will be considered genius two hundred years later.

>>5599512
It's just Deviant Art.

Why does /lit/ talk so much more about sophisticated literature than /tv/ talks about sophisticated film or /mu/ talks about sophisticated music? And why isn't there a board for art general? I got banned for making a sculpture thread.

>>5599031
Do you understand the purpose of soliloquy? It's not to 'explain what's going on'.

>>5599318
Why do you think the Holocaust required Hitler's birth? It wasn't even his idea.

I don't see how the Library of Alexandria would affect the lineage Hitler came from, unless you think one of his ancestors would have stayed as a librarian there or something and never met his fugging partner

>>5599309
>The resulting change to history would probably prevent the holocaust as well.
Why do you say that?

>>5599302
Then rewiring pedophiles would be disabling their sexuality?

>>5599294
Yes, of course, we're all born with capacity to be sexually stimulated. That's not the same thing as a particular orientation.

>>5599285
Homosexuality is a neurological condition?

>>5599250
Strictly speaking I want homogeneity in intelligence and physicality, I don't care about cultural traditions or values.

The 'normal person' is a product of hypocrisy, it can only exist because everyone makes an artificial representation to the public, and that representation is only possible because they hide so much of themselves. Those who have the courage of authenticity would instill courage in others, unless the rest of society shunned them, which I doubt it would collectively.

Normality is not evaded by hypocrisy. On the contrary, it only possible through hypocrisy.

>>5599206
The courageous individual who pushes the boundaries of acceptability will always be present, and so he will alter social mores. If you think most people don't conduct themselves how they pressure everyone else to, then they need to change how they pressure others.

>>5599133
>Saving the Library of Alexandria would change the nature of Christianity in the 16th century and ethnic nationalism in the 20th century.
In what way?

>>5599116
No, people with a lot of money who are corrupt make deals and arrangements with other people most of us aren't privy to, and in the U.S. you can't privately own those. The state can own them, but the state is made up of officials with conflicting agendas who serve other people behind the scenes, which wouldn't be possible if officials were monitored.