/lit/ - Literature

>>6701898
Because he died? Where do you think he went? Heaven? Nope, he had to suffer the consequence of sin for all humanity. He also had to take righteous people out of hell who were died before they could affirm him ("The Harrowing of Hell"). Christ was there for a couple of days in our time, but from the perspective of being in hell it might not even have been fathomable in time.

>>6701878
He faked his own crucifixion? C'mon, man

>>6701866
The Jews are not "the chosen people" except for the ones who were righteous and accepted Christ as their Lord and Savior. Christians are the chosen people, because Christians are those of the true Jewish faith.

>>6701845
I always like when "God, the Father Almighty" is repeated, the repetition sounds so lordly and poetic.

>>6701832
That depends on what you mean by "Jewish". If you mean the Hebrew religion which Christianity is the proper and true continuation of, yes, I certainly do. If you mean the heresy concocted by Rabbi Akiva, then no, I don't.

>>6701821
Isaiah is the major book of prophecy about the Messiah, who is God and the sacrificial lamb for humanity, who will be born of a virgin and will be persecuted to death. It also is about when God will stop being the God of the Jews, and be a God for all people, and even the Egyptians and the Assyrians will be his children.

>>6701813
I'm not a /pol/ retard, but I do think Jesus is the Messiah.

I'll ask again: have you not read Isaiah? Do you know the Messiah has to be put to death and die for the sins of humanity? You of course realize this doesn't happen during the Messianic age, yes?

>>6701800
Did you not read Isaiah?

>>6700999
Christianity is gaining traction in /lit/ because /lit/ is disillusioned with the secular left's growing anti-intellectualism and complete disregard for class struggle in favor of identity politics.

Oh, and Greek myths are a good start, you can find them all in Apollodorus' Bibliotheca, just tell them in a more exciting way. Also read the Bible early on, and get them to memorize quotes from the King James Version. If they know Greek myths and the Bible really well, that 90% of allusions in Western literature.

Aside from that, read them poets and get them into classical music.

It's just the opposite with lit

>W-would you ca...care to have sex w-with
>Fuck this, I'll read books

>>6691378
No. I'm just trying to get into Medieval stuff (not just philosophy and theology, but all of it) ir order to get a grasp of post-ancient pre-modern thought, which is a period and mindset very different from what came before and after. I was mainly interested because this board got me into John Milbank, \who helped me see the immensely different outlook of a society and academics all interconnected through religion and theology. Many of the ills we associate with that period, such as absolute monarchs, witch burnings and the Inquisition, were all actually products of early modernism. And when you take that away, you realize there's not a strong grasp of what the Middle Ages was all about, and that's why I'd like to investigate it in more depth.

>>6691348
How the heck is it a copy of the Divine Comedy?

>>6691373
*adapted

The Divine Comedy is mainly adopted from Greco-Roman literature and Catholic doctrine. I don't recall much Islamic influence.

Islamic thought is given easily as much attention as European thought in the Middle Ages is, if not more.

>>6691351
I'm not very experienced. I've read Augustine and some Aquinas, along parts from works by several other theologians. Aristotle was obviously big with the Scholastics, but he's generally not even referenced by name, his arguments are just reapplied and refined. Like Aristotle's prime mover argument is essentially the same Aquinas makes for God's existence as the sustainer, but Aquinas refines it.

Still a good idea to familiarize yourself with terms employed ahead of time, though, and at least read Categories. How much more is important later on I can't say, it might be a good idea to read Aristotle's entire Organon, but I doubt more than that is required. Still, that's a decent amount, but rest assured we'd go over works and see what knowledge is requisite and make sure everyone is familiar with it, with a summary at the least.

>>6691342
Aristotle became gradually influential in theology, he wasn't a major presence at the beginning of the Middle Ages. Furthermore, you might be pleasantly surprised to to find that Aristotlean theologians generally reiterate points and arguments by Aristotle which are pertinent, rather than assume you know what is being referenced.

>>6689738
The Norton Critical is waaaaaaaay bettter

No one is interested?

>>6689669
Libgen, for starters. Any reading material we'd have, I'd find the work, if not on libgen, then else where. It other people couldn't access it (for instance, if I got it from bibliotik, which I don't have any invites to give others), then I could upload it to 7chan's /lit/, and you could download it from there

Anyone interested in a Medieval reading club? We could discuss Medieval history, art, literature, music, theology, architecture, etc. That's a tall order though, so we'd all have to decide together what we wanted to devote our time to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcL6s4yyYaU

Chesterton's "Heretics" functions as such a rebuttal. To a lessor extent, so does Milbank's "Theology and Social Theory"

>>6686139
The Septuagint is authoritative Christian text, which is what Orthodox uses, including as a basis for translations. The King James is a translation of the Masoretic text, though, which I think is an inferior choice to the Septuagint, but just about all denominations are using it these days, even Catholics who use it rather than the Vulgate for translation basis. But if you're going to read a Masoretic translation, the King James Version is by far and away the most beautiful.and more accurate than a lot of the terrible contemporary translations. It's also more beautiful than any translation of the Septuagint, even if it's less authoritative.

Genesis 3:4