/lit/ - Literature

>>759899
Pic related. Penguin translation

post what you're currently reading and rate the person above you.

I'm doing my bi-yearly reread of this

>"suck my balls Plato" - Aristotle
>every work he did

>>636798
Nah, I'm pretty sure it's decent. I pretty much had everything done and I just needed to write it

2 MORE FUCKING PAGES LEFT!

p.s. I love block quotations

>>636513
Yea, and I need to finish this paper, although it's getting easy now that I've gotten into the meat of my argument.

>>636503
Apology states allegiance to god instead of Athens, while crito says allegiance to Athens is holiness and divine appointment. It is a paradox

>>636500
In other words between the republic, the crito and the Apology socrates contradicts himself:

Apology and Crito appear to assume the following propositions:
i) positive law imposes a moral obligation on citizens for obedience
ii) positive law—rule, verdict, judgment, edict, decree—may forbid what is right or require what is wrong
it seems a direct inference from (i) and (ii) that,
iii) a citizen may be obligated to do or forebear from doing what he is obligated not to do or forbear from doing.

>>636494
It's not so much an argument for natural law (at least in my paper), it's that you can't say you believe in an objective morality (socrates/plato does with the good) and then support positive law for the sake of positive law (i.e. you can't say support America's or wherever your from's country because that is the law, regardless of if it is "just" or "unjust"

Allen argues that if the binding claim of positive law rested solely on its justice, then positive law would cease to bind when misapplied. Socrates, being wrongfully condemned for impiety, would have a right to escape. The Crito, on the contrary maintains that he is under a duty not to escape, and the existence of that duty rests squarely on the authority of positive law.

>>636477
Oh no, when I said "you" I meant individual you rather than collective you. I'm personally not that big of a fan of Plato. I admire his works and ideas, but I'm more of a supporter of Aristotle. It probably has to do with the fact that I believe in natural law rather than positive law. Which is what my paper is about coincidentally.

>>636465
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>>636457
Alright. I'll make this /lit/ relevant. What is /lit/'s favourite dialogue of Plato, or do you hate Plato?

>my face when I have a 20 page paper to write that's due at 11 and I'm on page 4 and a half and it's 3:30.

once I cut and paste my smaller first paper, into my final paper, I'll be on page 8ish

>>587066
Why?

John Donne - A valediction: forbidding mourning

Matthew Arnold - Dover Beach

Auden - September 1, 1939

Alfred Lord Tennyson - Ulysses and In Memoriam A.H.H

Milton - Paradise Lost

Coleridge - Rime of the Ancient Mariner

Richard Henry Wilde - None shall weep a tear for me

Keats - Ode to Grecian Urn and Ode to a Nightingale

Yeats - Sailing to Byzantium

Richard Browning - Pippa passes

William Blake - Songs of Innocence and of Experience

>>587032
Cicero
Plato (sorta)
Aristotle (more so than Plato)

Jesus/Paul
Kant
Locke
Thomas Paine
Thomas Jefferson
James Madison
Hobbs
Descartes
Aquinas

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College student--English major/Professional writing minor probably going to specialize in Linguistics or 18th century Brit lit

Male

I'd turn it into an existentialist exercise on how making up bullshit "religions" or "faiths" are a harm to society and a harm to the human condition (a la Robespierre Cult of the Supreme Being).

The main character disgusted with modern society and values is invited by this mysterious man named either Stereîn or Stelan. The character then follow stereîn/stelan into the dark carnival and starts to follow its tenants. After a series of events, his belief in the dark carnival eventually leads to his death

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>>579142
Because Arthur Miller. To be precise, in modern times we feel we can get the same thing by focusing on the common man as well and not just noble people. That we can see man's place in relation to the world and get a better understanding of ourselves by seeing how a common man and cause his own destruction.

>>578906
Tragedies are designed to explore human nature. What is it that causes other wise great/noble men to be enveloped by their vanity. What causes great men to fall? By looking at these characters, the audience better understands their life and their relationship between them and the gods (from the original Aristotelian idea) or god (from the Christian idea). The latter is especially important when European citizens try to understand why it is that causes Adam and Eve to partake of the fruit from the tree of knowledge

>Romeo, romeo wherefore art thou romeo.

fix'd for you

What will you be doing e/lit/es?

One of my professor holds a birthday party on our campus and we read all 150 of his sonnets

>>575340
In addendum: Night: an autobiography of a boys time in prison