/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.9466434]

Why do people become manchildren? Why do they read genre fiction, play video games, watch Star Trek and anime, cosplay?
How does modern philosopher explain it?

[Anonymous No.9466445]

Cuz it's comfy and all most people really want is to be comfy, fat, and stupid.

[Anonymous No.9466449]

Isnt it funny how most, if not all, manchildren are fedora-tier?
They also universally look the same.

[Anonymous No.9466511]

>>9466434

[Anonymous No.9466519]

>>9466434
It's the easier path and there is no reason to not take it

In the past you had war and religion but in a society where living is so easy, why try?

[Anonymous No.9466521]

bad parenting
and
consumer culture that feeds into fandom/collector mindsets

[Anonymous No.9466536]

we end up worshiping something

[Anonymous No.9466540]

[Anonymous No.9466546]

>>9466434
A big reason for things like star wars and Harry Potter being popular among manchildren is that these guys put their autism points into the wrong subjects. If these same nerds focused their autistic energy on real life lore, history, culture, and etc., then they would probably lead more fulfilling lives.

[Anonymous No.9466549]

>>9466540
>tfw you own that exact NERF sword

I just like to sometimes grip it and feel a sense of purpose. Am I a manchild, /lit/?

[Anonymous No.9466556]

>>9466549
it's okay we all do the same thing bro

[Anonymous No.9466562]

>>9466540
Me on the right

[Anonymous No.9466568]

>>9466434
And what is the alternative?

>>9466521
You do know that the great US strikes of 1919 was the workers wanted to afford consumer goods and stuff?

>>9466546
That mean that we must have a great overhaul of our economy and educational systems. Stiff work...

And besides, fanboyism is older than you think...

[Anonymous No.9466579]

[Anonymous No.9466583]

>>9466549
Manchildren grip a nerf sword and feel a sense of purpose. Men grip a rifle and feel a sense of duty. Make a change in your life.

[Anonymous No.9466586]

>>9466568
The only remedy is an authoritarian state

[Anonymous No.9466590]

Mobile Suit Gundam is objectively more patrician than 90% of your shitty books.

Literally debate me.

[Anonymous No.9466598]

Same reason you repost deleted threads, I imagine OP.

[Anonymous No.9466602]

Star trek (TNG) is the comfiest show ever made. I think it's the engine hum in the background.

[Anonymous No.9466612]

>>9466602
>the engine hum in the background.
holy shit yes. it soothes me like nothing else.

[Anonymous No.9466629]

>>9466434
because if you're a normie and spend most of your time in contact with other humans you don't get the time nor inclination to self-reflect and realize how barren your cultural landscape is. You're too busy being thrilled about how lush your social landscape is.

Look at these people, they have friends, gfs. I would replace half my classics shelf with YA if it meant being looked at by girls like that goofy kid in the back of >>9466579 is

[Anonymous No.9466630]

>>9466434

>Why do people become manchildren
I'm going to guess it's because they don't like the stress and responsibility that comes with being an adult. They hide under the covers with something familiar and nostalgic. Publishers of this shit knows about aging demographics and often re-release things originally meant for children with more adult themes. Consumer culture also adds to this. Despite their flaws, these manchildren often can get jobs in tech (as someone working for a tech company full of manchildren, trust me it happens all the time.) Suddenly even a modest income makes all kinds of collectible consumer trash affordable-- if you make $45k a year and are an introverted dweeb, you'll have plenty to drop on $150 collector's editions of games or $300 sword prop replicas.

These people also crave friendship, but rather than seeking out a diverse and wide group of friends, they just go for people they know. They form these awful groups where everyone has shared interests in comics/video games/animu and never branch out, and become even more stunted as people. These are the types of people who complain about how hard it is 'to adult,' but make every appreciable effort to seem as childish as possible.

[Anonymous No.9466637]

>these manchildren will be raising their own children in just a few years' time

[Anonymous No.9466638]

>>9466434
i don't see any manchildren in your pic OP, just looks like a group of people having fun hanging out with each other.

i think the manchild might be the one comparing other people's interests with their own "superior" interests to feel better about themselves.

[Anonymous No.9466652]

>>9466602
>>9466612
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DydIK14AvXI

[Anonymous No.9466660]

Being an adult is just a spook.

[Anonymous No.9466668]

In my university there's a guy who never takes off his Star Wars T-shirt and I somehow feel sorry for him

[Anonymous No.9466686]

>>9466434

Repetitive, just like your reposts

[Anonymous No.9466691]

I blames gaming. Games are so easy compared to real life, they teach you that, in the game world, if you do precisely the right actions at the right time, you will always win and succeed. The more time you spend playing games the less patience you have with real life, so you reject the real world where you have to struggle, where the rules are unclear and you don't get a reward every time you advance, there's no clearly displayed points or health or other stats, it's all too hard. So they remain childish.

[Anonymous No.9466694]

>>9466638
Spoken like one of those manchildren.

[Anonymous No.9466718]

yall are too judgmental. these people are just living their lives, doing what they enjoy. hell, i'd wager that they're happier than the vast majority of /lit/.

this guy gets it >>9466629

[Anonymous No.9466733]

>>9466583
>someone wrote this earnestly

My sides.

[Anonymous No.9466742]

>>9466733
>someone doesn't understand that there are things worth fighting for regardless of what you believe
I would pity you if I thought you were worth thinking about.

[Anonymous No.9466755]

>>9466742
don't immediately bring the gun into that conversation of fighting for your beliefs.
it's fedora-tier is what he's saying.

[Anonymous No.9466763]

>>9466718
being happy for plebs

[Anonymous No.9466776]

>>9466629

I kind of like being alone, most of the time. I find people "difficult" and have a hard time relating to them. I just don't know what they want me to say to them, or how to make them want to spend time with me. It's like people are these unfathomable wells and I drop a plumb line into them, and have very little idea of what the echoes coming back up to me mean.

Once affordable sex robots hit the market I'll have it made in the shade.

[Anonymous No.9466777]

>>9466755
The gun is the only way to fight for your beliefs. To reword my statement, if you believe in democracy and peaceful protest, I would pity you if I thought of you at all.

[Anonymous No.9466796]

>>9466434
People mostly follow the path of least resistance.
Eventually, when a critical mass of a certain kinds of people is reached, certain lifestyles become mainstream and accessible.

There is no real pressure from society for these people to become "better", they can function just fine in this system, as long as they pay taxes and don't cause trouble.

[Anonymous No.9466832]

seems like your trying to dictate what is the right way to live. Why are people always looking to shit on some other group as if to feel reassured about themselves and thus superior? its extremely sad.
The joy of not caring and doing what you enjoy is what being a man is all about, your own respect is all you should care about and if you can honestly look in that mirror and say I like you then nothing else matters. YOU dictate your own happiness/ your own values/ reality, don't let others do that for you.

[Anonymous No.9466833]

>>9466586
>The only remedy is an authoritarian state
Gee, I didn't see that comming...

[Anonymous No.9466836]

>>9466434
>no gf
>crippling loneliness
>usually abuse/trauma of some sort
>>psychological regression to childhood

manchildren

[Anonymous No.9466843]

>>9466445
FPBP.

[Anonymous No.9466851]

>>9466832
This is probably bait, but I see a lot of people who think like this.

[Anonymous No.9466857]

>>9466519
>>9466630
>>9466796
How do I follow the harder path, path of most resistance, if I'm weak. It's like a vicious circle.

[Anonymous No.9466862]

>>9466602
TOS is better in literally every way.

[Anonymous No.9466864]

>le 'literature is an arbitrarily superior medium' meme
You're all actual children.

[Anonymous No.9466865]

I call it Infantlisim. Smartphones and social media allowed the growth of this horrendous phenomenon, now rather than facing reality and developing their own personalities they'd rather just live in a pathetic bubble with the only retort being MUH CHILDHOOD used to shout against the world who poke legit criticisms in their failed philosophies. These are people who have sold their souls for manufactured personalities and are nothing more than real life bots for companies like Disney to meme in real life how great the new Star Wars or Marvel shit fest was, they are the generation of "like what the media is pushing; rather than like what you genuinely like".

[Anonymous No.9466869]

>>9466832
>>9466864
Capitalist pigs

[Anonymous No.9466881]

>>9466796
>even the dog is fat

[Anonymous No.9466886]

>>9466832
I like it. Thats something I can stand for. The men who live by this are the men who change things, men who can be respected.

[Anonymous No.9466890]

>>9466434
Can someone explain this psy-op to me? I keep seeing this posted in /pol/ and now here

[Anonymous No.9466891]

>>9466434

Does the guy with the DS have downs or something?

[Anonymous No.9466898]

>>9466890

>anything that hits too close to home and triggers me is a psy-op okay

[Anonymous No.9466906]

>>9466629
Goofy kid at the back is getting pushy because he's tall and handsome my dude. No amount of YA and common interests will change that for you

[Anonymous No.9466907]

No need for modern philosophy to explain it. It's just Americans and their identity problems. They crave for something to show on the outside

[Anonymous No.9466914]

Someone should write the Super Size me equivalent but with Capeshit and Video Games damaging people beyond repair.

[Anonymous No.9466917]

>>9466907
He got princess mmm yeaaah. I want to smell her unwashed hair mmmmm.

[Anonymous No.9466918]

What makes us not manchildren? The flavor of words we read?

[Anonymous No.9466919]

>>9466914
It doesn't "damage you beyond repair". People live this lifestyle quite comfortably.

It's a matter of differing tastes

[Anonymous No.9466923]

ITT: failed normies making fun of themselves

[Anonymous No.9466927]

>>9466919

You'd have to be mentally damaged beyond repair to enjoy Capeshit or MCU movies. It always seems to attract the most deranged and autistic individuals.

[Anonymous No.9466928]

>>9466890

samefag starter kit threads that exist since the dawn of 4chan

*blocks your path*esque endgame dust has settled

instead of progressing and learning, too much to ask

allegory of the cave
brain in the vat
simulacra and simulacrum

>>9466864

>pseud hivemind claim

mild, thinly disguised raids which are also a tradition since 2003

[Anonymous No.9466936]

>>9466568
I think he meant commodity fetishism, not consumer goods alone.

[Anonymous No.9466939]

>>9466865
>"like what the media is pushing; rather than like what you genuinely like".
i think you're looking into it too much. sure, there are people like that, but i've found that those types are usually very normal and well-adjusted, spending their times at their jobs and with their well-adjusted friends, so much so that they don't bother developing a deep interest in any one thing. so when a movie gets hyped up by the media and on social media, they go out and see it. whereas in the OP's picture, you have a gathering of people with very specific interests, who are likely not as "normal" as the majority, thus easy targets for people on Ukrainian stamp-collecting forums to make fun of.

i have friends who get excited for Marvel/Star Wars stuff, but it doesn't mean they're interested in just any movie that gets hyped and popular—they just really like Marvel and/or Star Wars.

[Anonymous No.9466957]

If you repeatedly tell a kid throughout his life that he should just do whatever makes him feel happy regardless of whether it's morally correct he might just start living like that. So long as it doesn't "hurt anyone." It shouldn't surprise you that people are hedonistic.

[Anonymous No.9466962]

>>9466939

Could be some genuinely care about these specific movies but it's gone nothing more than simple entertainment to a spectacle for them now. You pretty much don't have to watch or read any of the material but you can hear about them via word of mouth, I think a lot of people just like them as a comfort since they are popular things and if you go against the popular things you won't be seen as being part of the current zeitgeist and would need mental reassurance. They only care about these things as a coping mechanism because they are popular and if they like them then maybe they will be popular and important too, see the whole Youtuber's phenomenon.

[Anonymous No.9466986]

>>9466962
i agree, but like i said in my post, it's usually very well-adjusted and successful people who are like that, not the type that are in the OP post.

[Anonymous No.9466994]

>>9466986

You could say these people are inauthentic and aren't living they're lives correctly.

[Anonymous No.9467024]

I'm not like the people in ops pic but i'm a NEET and have been for a while.

Bad parenting contributes a lot but mainly I just lost interest in life and the world. When I was 18 the financial crisis happened and it became clear how corrupt and broken everything is, I just lost interest in life.

[Anonymous No.9467041]

>>9466434
>>9466540
>>9466579
>>9466796

And people say eugenics is a bad thing...

These people should be compulsorily enrolled in a military boot camp or an intensive 12 week gym programme.

If there's no meaningful improvement in their ugly, corpulent appearance, they can then be shot.

With the discipline required to become physically fit in a meaningful way, they should easily grow out of these childish past-times/fandoms/mindsets/etc.

[Anonymous No.9467048]

Boomers pushing responsibilities on their children which leads to shitty fucking adult life that prompts these people towards escapism with the help of nostalgia, finding recluse towards consumer culture that caters towards fanbase.

[Anonymous No.9467055]

>>9467048

Would unironically fug the girl on the right

[Anonymous No.9467058]

>>9467041

You first.

[Anonymous No.9467066]

>>9467058

I'm unironically /fitlit/

A military boot camp or 12 week intensive gym programme would be less intense than my 5 days/week +weekend cardio workouts.

[Anonymous No.9467079]

>>9467041
>These people should be compulsorily enrolled in a military boot camp or an intensive 12 week gym programme.
China does this (though not technically compulsory) and it doesn't work.

Also, there are plenty of physically fit people who enjoy video games or are even straight up weebs. You're judging people from their pictures, ultimately revealing more about yourself than anything else.

[Anonymous No.9467086]

>>9467079

>China does this (though not technically compulsory) and it doesn't work.

[Citation Needed]

>Also, there are plenty of physically fit people who enjoy video games or are even straight up weebs

[Citation Needed]

Protip: Skinny lanklet is hardly any better than morbidly obese.

>You're judging people from their pictures

Mankind is now mature enough to judge people on the basis of their physiognomy. There is no Cartesian Dualism between mind and body - both are one. Ergo, an ugly and/or unhealthy body says a great deal about the mind.

[Anonymous No.9467097]

>>9467066
whats a good starterpack

I did /r/bodyweightfitness's thing for a while with the app but got bored after a few weeks

[Anonymous No.9467104]

>>9466434
>every single girl in that image is as fat as a pregnant sow
>every single male is derpy looking

[Anonymous No.9467108]

>>9467097

Your best bet is probably to go for the gym programme option. Ideally one with a personal trainer to give you guidance with respect to form and meal plans/etc.

6-12 weeks is usually long enough to let you go on your own way.

[Anonymous No.9467121]

>>9467104
b-but they look happy anon...they truly enjoy life!

[Anonymous No.9467133]

>>9467086
>[Citation Needed]
Yeah, you need lots of hard evidence to prove that countries with compulsory military service produce weebs and gamers, it's totally unbelievable.

[Anonymous No.9467135]

>>9467086
try google. i'd rather not write a fucking research paper for you.
again, you're revealing more about yourself than anything else.

[Anonymous No.9467141]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N6SvSszHeQ
obligatory

[Anonymous No.9467144]

i think a moderate portion of it comes from the reduction of reward and respect that used to come from success.
in the modern day where the successful are constantly labelled as "privileged" and are hounded by people attempting to strip them of their achievements there is ultimately less drive to succeed.
when media portrays the successful young man as "evil whitey" or whatever equivalent disrespectful term.
this is reflected in the home situation, in a world where the law gives women the ability to strip a man of the majority he has acquired at the drop of a hat there is again less reason to pursue these things.
the successful family head used to be a well respected member of the community, once stripped of the respect and material reward these things once accompanied there really isn't much reason to pursue traditional 'success'
this is to not even touch on the fact that a large part of the male success drive is to attract a high quality female, however most are quite fucked in the head these days and not worth the investment for a long term relationship .
this is not to say these fat losers would be successful, but surely is applicable to some who fail to utilise potential.

[Anonymous No.9467150]

>>9467144
thats why you buy cryptos

[Anonymous No.9467169]

>>9467144
>this is not to say these fat losers would be successful, but surely is applicable to some who fail to utilise potential.
hate to break it to you, but most of these fat losers go on to the STEM field, get nerdy girlfriends, and go on to have fairly normal lives, even if their hobbies will always be vidya and weeb shit. sure, you get the occasional NEET lumped in with them, but NEETs are in every social group nowadays.

[Anonymous No.9467181]

>>9467169
>nerdy girlfriends

[Anonymous No.9467189]

>>9466434
These niggas at least have friends and a crew they fuck with

That's more than I can say for myself, who sits at a computer procrastinating on 4chan and sometimes I get work done

[Anonymous No.9467193]

>>9467181
well, there are some hot ones, at least from what i've seen. keep in mind that the definition of nerd has significantly broadened.

[Anonymous No.9467194]

>>9467086
I bet you're like that guy from Nausea and read every book in the library in alphabetical order

[Anonymous No.9467207]

>>9466590
>implying the novel where Amuro dies to a random Rick Dom and keeps a lock of Saylas pubes isn't the best way to experience the

/lit/ always wins dweeb

[Anonymous No.9467212]

>>9467169
i think you are wrong, i am currently in STEM and it really isn't what you think
then again i'm doing engineering in Australia, 90% of it is Asians or very normal white males. the most common types of hobbies i see are things like cars and sports. the reality is if you're a disgusting loser its very low chance that you're intelligent enough to make it in STEM.
intelligent people are actually usually intelligent in all branches of life including social interaction, these neck beards are lazy and not really very smart

[Anonymous No.9467214]

>>9467141
Who is the girl left to Pokémon Sun? Eli from Love Live! ?

[Anonymous No.9467216]

>>9466434
Why is she wearing a gas mask ?

As weird as it sounds, it's one of my biggest fetishes.

[Anonymous No.9467223]

>>9467216
you get can get those for like $5 of some surplus site, old ass Russian mask

[Anonymous No.9467227]

>>9467223
Sure thing, but it wouldn't come to my mind to wear it in public, not to say in presence of my friends.

[Anonymous No.9467229]

>>9467212
i did STEM for 3 years in the US. i'm not saying that everybody in STEM is some autistic neckbeard, just that autists are more likely to end up in STEM, and i knew plenty that would fit into the OP picture (though maybe they wouldn't be as ugly as the rest).

also, i always envision Australia as a very Chad-dominated place, like where everybody is good looking and amazing. i don't know how true that is though.

[Anonymous No.9467237]

>>9467229
They're all convict scum, off course they're going to look like Chads

[Anonymous No.9467244]

>>9467141
How do you people find this this?

[Anonymous No.9467250]

>>9467066
>I'm unironically /fitlit/
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.9467257]

The greatest sin of Nietzsche is that ANYONE who reads his stuff thinks he's an Ubermensch.

[Anonymous No.9467278]

>>9467257
The greatest sin of George Lucas is that ANYONE who watch his stuff thinks he's a Jedi.

[Anonymous No.9467281]

>>9466637
DiJ is top tier

[Anonymous No.9467289]

>>9467048
I don't quite see the problem with indulging in some manchildishness, as long as it doesn't dominate your life. For example, I am going to NYCC this year. But I don't just sit around and fantasize about it all day. I'm just going to spend one weekend out of the year on that. what is the problem?

[Anonymous No.9467304]

>>9467141
goddamn, this guy has a video of a comparative review of two sex toys, recorded and posted on this last new year's eve. just think about that. in the video you can even hear the celebrations in the streets. and then there's this guy, holed up in his room, explaining to a camera that one sex toy has begun to tear after only two dickings, while the other has withstood countless abuse from the very same dick.

what a world we live in.

[Anonymous No.9467310]

>>9467041
>And people say eugenics is a bad thing...
You say this as if the main problem was genetics.

But the manchildren epidemic can hardly go further back than 1970 - genetics don't change that quickly.

So social conditions, above and beyond breeding, have to be considered as well.

[Anonymous No.9467345]

>>9466796
How can you even get this fat?

[Anonymous No.9467357]

>>9466638
REminds me of how tramps and drug addicts can't tell what they look like to the rest of society

> what is cognitive dissonance

[Anonymous No.9467364]

>>9466832
> not caring and doing what you want is being a man

This is why society is so fucked up. The truth has become so blurred that people believe shit like this.

Being a man is literally about caring and not just doing what you want because you feel like it. You're pathetic and you need a serious reality check

[Anonymous No.9467367]

>>9467310
>But the manchildren epidemic can hardly go further back than 1970 - genetics don't change that quickly.

the manchildren is just an extension of the "youth culture" worship that came out of the 60s, everyone became manchildren, you just notice the fat neckbeard playing nintendo ds on the train because he sticks out, but the 35 year old indie rocker still trying to be cool is also a manchild, and the black hiphoppy guy who smokes weed all day and won't take care of his kids is also a manchild...the 60s really destroyed culture, we traded a robust culture for decadence in exchange for a couple decent psych rock albums

[sin No.9467371]

Why do you guys care so much about what other people do?

[Anonymous No.9467373]

>>9467367

Yeah but they were really really good albums brah.

[Anonymous No.9467375]

>>9467371
Insecure shitlets with nothing else going for them

[Anonymous No.9467381]

life was better before I was 8.

[Anonymous No.9467391]

>>9467371
Because I see myself in every manchild that I meet, and hate it

[Anonymous No.9467403]

notice how the too best looking once are at the head of the table? even manchildren organize themselves into alphas and betas like apes