/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.9310351]

Why people become manchildren? Why do they play video games, watch anime, cosplay?
How do modern philosopher explain it?

[Anonymous No.9310374]

Pretty clearly it's about an attempt to prolong the innocences and wonder if their youth.

[Anonymous No.9310377]

Evasion.

[Anonymous No.9310383]

>>9310374
incorrect

Capitalism is a machine that makes people comfortable and dumb, slow cows that feast on ideology and pleasure. Video games are an immediate satisfaction, beyond lowbrow

Why do middle aged housewifes pop xanax and have a glass of wine while watching real housewives of Orange County?

[Anonymous No.9310392]

for a long time the idea of man being in some sense perfectible has been unfashionable

as a result, people have lower standards about life

it's also unfashionable to criticise others and how they live their lives, so there's no 'correction' from society

[Anonymous No.9310399]

>>9310351
>become manchildren
You've got the wrong idea. People become men. They stay children. It's not a progression, it's a stagnation.

[Anonymous No.9310400]

>why do people like having fun?

Truly a mystery of our time.

[Anonymous No.9310403]

I think I remember discussing this. I don't think it is an entirely new phenomenon. Toy trains come to mind. That and what is considered childish may as well be a social construction.

It might as well be profitable to keep people to be 'manchildren'.

[Anonymous No.9310411]

A philosopher might ask: why the fuck do you care?

[Anonymous No.9310427]

>>9310399
firstly, this.

secondly, it's because nobody ever expected anything from them. it's the upbringing of the last decades. people have golden children. they shelter them and some won't let them learn to be independent because they want them to stay dependant so they have a reason to exist. if you looks at manchildrens moms, they almost always have intimacy issues they try to balance out by keeping their sons on a leash. and then one day, the sons might break free but they are like wolfes raised in captivity. totally lost in freedom.
it's something one CAN overcome. but humans are lazy. you would have to somehow generate big amounts of selfdiscipline out of thin air. most never will.

it's also the fact that we have never had to endure anything. we are weak and pampered. the slightest inconvenience is already a good reason to give up. and so we turn to immediate satisfaction, whih is mostly consumption. mainly of food, media and porn.

[Anonymous No.9310448]

I dont know why I come on /lit/
This board sometimes hits too close to home

[Anonymous No.9310451]

>>9310427
Jesus, nail on the head.

[Anonymous No.9310452]

>>9310448

[Anonymous No.9310453]

>video games
Physical pastime, just like sports
>anime
Could be considered a sub-category of television
>cosplay
Dressing up is fun sometimes I guess. no harm in wearing a costume when you're attending a con, just like wearing a special outfit at a concert. I wouldn't know, though.

[Anonymous No.9310455]

>>9310351
>He doesn't watch anime
Pleb

[Anonymous No.9310463]

>>9310427
GOOD post

[Anonymous No.9310468]

>>9310351
it's not what you like, it's how you like it.

[Anonymous No.9310470]

Anime is the only place I get my fix of camaraderie. I played sports for years and never felt close to anyone. Lots of relationships that come from living a normal life.
I'm sure it's just a problem with me.

[Anonymous No.9310491]

>>9310351

Brain in the Vat
Allegory of the Cave
Simulacra and Simulation

Transhumanistic Technocracy

[Anonymous No.9310515]

Anime is good, this is an anime imageboard.

[Anonymous No.9310525]

>>9310427
This is my entire life in a nutshell

[Anonymous No.9310529]

>>9310400
This. Surely all you highbrow patrician sages unwind and drink or do some mindless shite every now and again

[Anonymous No.9310531]

>I need anime to balance some of my lacked emotion

-a YouTube comment

[Anonymous No.9310532]

>>9310529
there's a difference between unwinding and being a manchild. a clear one.

[Anonymous No.9310538]

capeshit was a mistake

[Anonymous No.9310552]

Do video games make you a worse person, or do bad people simply gravitate to video games?

[Anonymous No.9310560]

>why do people prefer fun of escapism to boring drudgery of daily life
Truly a mystery

[Anonymous No.9310568]

>>9310560
>>9310400
/sffg/ pls return back to your corral

[Anonymous No.9310570]

>>9310552
they are a good way to numb the tragedy that you lack the means to change the way you are. they do keep you down, yes. but only because they shield you from experiencing the pure pain of your existence without anything to shield you from it. you won't see the necessity for change as long as you don't get confronted with it.
it takes a person who needs distraction from something and one prone to fall prey to instant relieve. but it also takes a reason to sustain the habit over years.

[Anonymous No.9310572]

>>9310560
Real question is "why must daily life consist of boring drudgery?" and "who receives the product of that drudgery?"

[Anonymous No.9310580]

>>9310572
You already know the answer to both questions.

[Anonymous No.9310582]

>>9310572
no, the question is, why is most of life a "boring drudgery" to you? that's not 'the world's' or 'society's' fault...

[Anonymous No.9310586]

>>9310582
Because I'm a resentful piece of shit?

[Anonymous No.9310593]

>>9310586
probably because you feel like you're wasting your potential. which you most likely are

[Anonymous No.9310594]

>>9310383
>housewifes
is this still a thing?

[Anonymous No.9310607]

>>9310427
guess i'm kinda lucky my parents hate me

[Anonymous No.9310611]

>>9310351

like any other crime: means, motive, and opportunity

[Anonymous No.9310614]

MAKE THREADS ABOUT BOOKS YOU CUNTS

[Anonymous No.9310615]

I think people are both foreign to the own culture they are born from, and incapable to focus their attention on a simple task. I think that they don't read because they cannot read, that to concentrate on a text longer than a paragraph is unbearable. In the same fashion, they cannot wait, they cannot enjoy silence or inactivity. They are inapt to appreciate simple fragments of nature, of beauty. I think these people are unable to look up, stand for a minute and watch a building, or to wait, silently, and listen to birds singing. They have no patience, no attention. Put it bluntly, they weren't properly educated in the first place. I think the failure to detach our drives from our spontaneity precedes the armature of our pastimes, interests and place within a certain social framework. This must also influence our relationship with the others. It's irreconcilable.

[Anonymous No.9310625]

>>9310403
Toy trains are manly compared to what hobbies people enjoy these days.

[Anonymous No.9310635]

>>9310615
tl;dr

[Anonymous No.9310642]

>>9310635
Nice one.

[Anonymous No.9310643]

>>9310607
kinda, yes. it seems unreasonable, but it's better your parents kick you out at 16 than if they let you stay as long as you want. the best would be if you had sane parents that can find the blance between a loving family to give you stability and security and the ability to instill independence. it's a rare thing, but it happens. my parents almost got it. good thing they leaned more towards the "kick you out at 16" than the other side...

[Anonymous No.9310650]

>>9310351
When there is no more room in hell, the dead shall walk the earth.

[Anonymous No.9310659]

I think that we now see manchildren because we can support manchildren. Before videogames, before the money to care for NEETs, you wouldn't be able to be a manchild even if you wanted to. Sometimes in the past rich people got way too into things like poems and fairytales, and I guess that's the same impulse.
If you pulled a thousand people from a hundred years ago into the present, I'm willing to be that at least a dozen of them would become manchildren them minute you told them it was an option.

[Anonymous No.9310661]

>>9310351
>>9310560
>>9310572
>>9310580

Can life be escaped? Or is life drawn nearer to death?

What is the nature of enjoyment?

How is time correlated to existence?

How does a biological constitution override mechanistic function?

Can transcendance be attained into a projection of infinity?

[Anonymous No.9310665]

>>9310659
Such a “predestination” provided there is, doesn't make them “manchildren”. They were grown men. That they could have been something else is a whole different discussion. Is our society ill, to let it happen?

[Anonymous No.9310678]

>>9310635
I have the tldr for you m8

>DUDE FLOWERS SMELL LOL

[Anonymous No.9310694]

>>9310515
Anime is good, but there's a difference between being an obsessive weeb and enjoying some good series/movies.

[Anonymous No.9310727]

A lot of them don't know any different.

If you grow up as a kid and that's all you do, and your peers are doing it as well, how do you escape it? It's a failure of upbringing and society.

[Anonymous No.9310740]

Let's talk about real mysteries of life:
Why do people become proctologists? I'm grateful that they exist, because I've got some ass problems, but it's still beyond me to understand how can someone wake up one day and think to oneself - "You know what, I want to stare at people's buttholes for living"
Is it safe to assume that people who work with dicks/asses are all just perverts who enjoy fingering people?

[Anonymous No.9310741]

>>9310383
Wrong. Video games are games like any of the past, like chess or soccer. Theyre challening, stimulating, and competitive.

[Anonymous No.9310752]

>>9310741
Except in one of these you struggle physically and mentally against a human in an actual arena.

In another you sit on your fat ass and type "gayfag" into a computer as you get teabagged by retarded children.

[Anonymous No.9310760]

>>9310643
My parents aren't quite at either extreme, but they definitely lean towards the latter. I don't want to say all my problems are their fault, but it seems like much of what they've done has robbed me of my independence while they were trying allow me to live comfortably. feels pretty bad man.

[Anonymous No.9310765]

>>9310351
Fun things are fun.

[Anonymous No.9310773]

>>9310694
>some good series/movies
There's more than 'some'.
>>9310752
There are competitive games.
Chess is not physically difficult.

You do realize that e-chess is a video game, right?

[Anonymous No.9310774]

>>9310752
Not him, but it's still mentally a struggle and you still play against other humans. You use eye-to-hand coordination, tactical planning, positioning and teamwork/coordination.

I don't get the hate for video games.

[Anonymous No.9310777]

>>9310351
I-Is it bad that I like to fawn over cute anime girls? I just think that they look really, really pretty.

[Anonymous No.9310778]

>>9310752
Video games have more emphasis on the physical aspect than traditional games like chess and on LAN you struggle quite literally against humans in an actual arena.

[Anonymous No.9310781]

>>9310740
you sound like jerry seinfeld's retarded little brother

[Anonymous No.9310792]

>>9310777
yes
grow up

[Anonymous No.9310798]

>>9310792
What's wrong with it though? There's no harm in it.

[Anonymous No.9310799]

>>9310351
Dopamine addiction caused by excessive stimulation for reasons listed by you

[Anonymous No.9310806]

>>9310773
>There's more than 'some'
No argument here. There's still a difference between enjoying those when you can and being an obsessive weeb though.

[Anonymous No.9310807]

>>9310694
Anime isn't that good tbqhwy fampai.

[Anonymous No.9310809]

What you described is consumerism. Manchild is seriously just another word for consumerist retard, but people don't want to admit that.

When you think of a manchild I think of someone that watches capeshit, that gets those lootcrate things, that collects plastic shit from China because it is from his favourite franchise, that is marketed to as being in a group because he buys certain things (people shit on Apple for this but really it's a lot of companies that do this), etc.

It's easy to do. Literally just PR and marketing.

[Anonymous No.9310813]

I don't know what's more pathetic, the manchildren themselves, or the people who just recently realized they are manchildren and try to distance themselves from that as much as possible by diagnosing some made-up social epidemic of manchild-itis as if it's a widespread problem.

[Anonymous No.9310816]

>>9310806
>arguments are good
Obsessive hellenophile

[Anonymous No.9310818]

>>9310665
To make my point more clearly: I think that in the past we couldn't afford man children, and thus people grew up, moved out, and got jobs because the alternative was starvation. We don't threaten the modern man child with starvation, and thus we get man children.

[Anonymous No.9310822]

>>9310351
Life is pointless, might as well do what you want

[Anonymous No.9310830]

>>9310778
All I'm saying is that there IS an important difference between, say, gladiatorial death sports and, say, fucking DODA

[Anonymous No.9310842]

>>9310740
Lots of fucking money, over 300,000 dollars a year.

[Anonymous No.9310854]

>>9310830
Yes, in sports you use your actual body to win. In games there is a layer of abstraction, where you move objects on a determined field, but the movements of your body usually aren't part of the game. In video games the line is blurred. I just think it's silly to emphasize the physical and mental struggle, when games are devoid of the physical aspect and in sports the degree to which the mental aspect matters varies and it could be argued does not reach the level of top level ASSFAGGOTS play (which would lack the strength/endurance aspect of most sports).

[Anonymous No.9310862]

>>9310807
Look the point is that the medium they enjoy doesn't matter, their approach does. Well-adjusted and healthy people can enjoy anime, literature, reality tv, televised sports, whatever. You can also be an obsessive manchild about any of those things.

>>9310816
?

[Anonymous No.9310867]

>>9310351
addiction
fear of outside world
fear of rejection
low self-esteem
fear of responsibility

you know, first-world problems

[Anonymous No.9310878]

What's a manchild? How do I not become one? I live alone, have a job but all I do is read or browse 4chan when I'm not working. I go to Church and don't want a wife because of the legal complications it could bring.

[Anonymous No.9310882]

>>9310351
>destroy traditional masculity
>complain when men don't act like traditional men anymore

[Anonymous No.9310886]

Destruction of traditional values and demonization of all things masculine.

[Anonymous No.9310900]

>>9310878
>don't want a wife because of the legal complications it could bring
Just get a marriage contract

[Anonymous No.9310916]

>>9310886
this is only happening in your head desu, and it's probably your go-to excuse for being a pussy ass bitch

[Anonymous No.9310925]

>>9310867

this, but also, back in the day you were born inside certain classes, everyone of which had a bigger role, a bigger plan. You would feel part of something, and that is one thing that all humans crave.

Nowdays, there's no such feeling. We are individualistic, no longer patriots, there's no more wars, there's no more defined classes and defined objectives. Capitalism's message to us i literally work your shitty job and have fun at weekends.

Video Games are a way to escape that world : You have a clear plot, you have a clear objetive. You actually feel like you belong and that there's something you really need to do - You have a PURPOSE.

People that have gone to the ARMY or any armed force know how great that feeling is

[Anonymous No.9310941]

>>9310886
>>9310882
>destroy traditional masculity
Damn judens are at it again, reeeee!

[Anonymous No.9310945]

>>9310925
You realize the world has been in a nonstop war since 1939 right?

Oh you're a dumbass kid.

[Anonymous No.9310952]

>>9310427
I get the impression you're struggling with similar issues anon.

I hope things get better for you if you are.

At the end of the day, real happiness is worth every price.

[Anonymous No.9310956]

>>9310351
Talking from experience: they've never got to have a role model, nor did they had the intuition that would have steered them into the path of virtue.

Someone who plays videogames all day long most likely don't know how great and deep a man can be. He doesn't percieve it as a waste of time because in his mind there is still no example of what productive time looks like.

tl;dr: they're living a unexamined life

[Anonymous No.9310963]

>>9310798
There's harm to yourself.

If you lack the awareness to see that you're a stuttering autist on 4chan, who would be immature by any functional standards, then you're an idiot.

[Anonymous No.9310964]

>>9310956
Nice

[Anonymous No.9310966]

>>9310963
3D apologists get out

[Anonymous No.9310969]

>>9310945
I think the anon's point on purpose is pretty apt.

Video games contain clear objectives in a world that lacks them.

[Anonymous No.9310970]

>>9310798
harm to others /// harm to self

[Anonymous No.9310976]

>>9310956
>tl;dr: they're living a unexamined life

how do I change this

[Anonymous No.9310978]

>>9310966
A real vagina feels much better than your hands. The warmth of human being scratching your back and wanting you feels much better than anything else.

It's not hard to fuck women. Exercise.

[Anonymous No.9310986]

>>9310741
I can't speak to physical sports but imo there is a very significant difference between the pace of chess and any mainstream competitive video game.


For example even a bad player in call of duty will probably get one kill for every 2 deaths and have fun running around shooting things nonstop. There is always stuff going on on screen and sounds bombarding your senses as well. The experience is architected to give you instant gratification all the time, even if you're doing poorly. In chess you can easily spend an hour getting choked out of a game because you made one mistake, all the while you're just sitting there looking at a 64 square board in silence. Video games often replace intellectual challenge for physical ability. Obviously decision making matters to a degree but it's less complicated and the amount of variance in possible decisions is pretty limited.

Using cod may be a strawman but even in potentially more oppressive games like dota there's constant input, from something as simple as the little sound that plays every time you get last hits to the dynamic music that responds to events going on in the game to the fact that even someone who's fallen far behind can make often still make a difference and at least get a way with a kill or whatever by just using their abilities in fights. Even in dota, which I'd consider to be one of the most complicated mainstream game, has a relatively simple decision matrix at any given time and at anything but the highest level people are able to fall back to defaults as far as decisions to fight/run, item builds etc without much consequence.

[Anonymous No.9310992]

>>9310963
>>9310970
I'm a loser virgin anyways, so why not indulge into escapism?

[Anonymous No.9310994]

>>9310978
>A real vagina feels much better than your hands.
I basically cum instantly every time I've ever tried. I'm just too embarrassed to keep trying.

[Anonymous No.9311011]

>>9310351
Effectively, it's prolonging maternal comfort as long as possible
Society has also hit the point were these people can drop and it'll still be the same - who it doesn't really care

Small steps i suppose, and us that are aware neeed to make sure our kids don't end like this

[Anonymous No.9311012]

>>9310956
Would you say that the living of an unexamined lie is entirely pivoted on the lack of exposure to a different way?

Couldn't it also be possible that they might have a greater lack of ambition (which could also be based on experience)? After all it isn't unheard of for sons of selfmade parents to be generally lazier than them.

[Anonymous No.9311021]

Today's manchildren are the same men who sat on a factory line 50 years ago, except those factory lines are now in Chengdu, China, so these people aren't left with anything to do, other than NEET.

[Anonymous No.9311023]

>>9310351
tl;dr it's a rigged game for men

[Anonymous No.9311024]

>>9310878
You're doing fine, anon. Anyone who pulls their own weight in society isn't a manchild.

[Anonymous No.9311025]

>>9310969
But the world actually DOESNT lack clear objectives. In fact, under capitalism, they are shoved down your throat at every instant: consume this, travel to work, execute this task.

If anything video games are supposed to provide the FREEDOM that is lacking in day to day life. What is damning about virtual reality under capitalism is that it basically tries to replicate corporate consumer reality.

[Anonymous No.9311027]

>>9310992
Of course you're a lose virgin, you think like one and accept yourself as one.

Why not do something different? Aren't you miserable? So many people on 4chan are on the verge of suicide with your lifestyle.

I'd rather suffer for ten years and have something than die like that.

But it's your choice anon.

>>9310994
Keep practicing. And girls aren't fussy. If you cum that early, probably, you''ve a high enough sex drive to fuck again in minutes. Sex drive is more important than endurance.

[Anonymous No.9311031]

>>9310976
Unironic answer: you read Nichomachean ethics.
Simplified answer: you examine and motivate to yourself everything you do. Why am I spending so much time on the internet? Am I gaining something from it? You question everything you do while being reasonable.
Simple straightforward questions will, at the very least, help you cutting all those aspects of your life that are extremely toxic. You probably have no reason to spend so much time on 4chan, or to eat so much junk food, or to never read and work out. Act accordingly to this new aknowledgement, while keeping in mind that virtue is something that you have to practice, and that excellence is an habit.

t. anon who is turning his life around but still has not managed to kick out 30 minutes of /lit/ from his daily life

>>9311012
I mentioned intuition too, but I'm not ready to say that one path is better than the other, since the destination is the same.
That said, I still think that we internalize everything we read, say and think in a way or another. Spending your entire childhood and teenagehood on 4chan (and we know that most of us have done so all day long for years) will most likely stunt your ambition and impair your existential point lf view on the world.

[Anonymous No.9311041]

>>9310978
Maybe not but it's hard to meet them when you're years out of uni and still working a retail job that mainly services the middle aged

[Anonymous No.9311062]

>>9310978
In most cases a vagina really isn't worth tolerating the being it belongs to. Also it's way easier to tailor masturbation to your fantasies, whereas sex is always a compromise.

[Anonymous No.9311070]

>>9311027
Then I cum in two minutes the second time. I always get them off with a good fingerblast but it's never enjoyable for me.
It's really annoying because I got to the point where I can be rock hard and have a good stroke for 15 minutes, but I fucking cum on contact the next day.

[Anonymous No.9311082]

Yeah, fucking a woman is totally worth all the legal strife that comes with it. Get real, dumb niggers.

[Anonymous No.9311091]

>>9311082
Literally just snip your string and a woman can never have power over you.

[Anonymous No.9311092]

>>9310427
You're wrong, otherwise we'd seen womanchildren too.

[Anonymous No.9311099]

>>9311092
They do exist just on /r9k not here

[Anonymous No.9311109]

Feminists have pretty much killed Western society. All that's left is the final collapse and submission to Islam.

[Anonymous No.9311118]

>>9310351

The inevitable outcome of an atheist society that teaches life is meaningless

Prove me wrong

[Anonymous No.9311126]

>>9311118
Even Nietzsche acknowledged that there would be a post nihilistic society and of course Karl popper pointed out that all social scientific systems of prediction are bogus. So you're wrong. Nothing is inevitable

[Anonymous No.9311129]

"If any man consider the present aspects of what is called by distinction society, he will see the need of these ethics. The sinew and heart of man seem to be drawn out, and we are become timorous, desponding whimperers. We are afraid of truth, afraid of fortune, afraid of death, and afraid of each other. Our age yields no great and perfect persons. We want men and women who shall renovate life and our social state, but we see that most natures are insolvent, cannot satisfy their own wants, have an ambition out of all proportion to their practical force, and do lean and beg day and night continually. Our housekeeping is mendicant, our arts, our occupations, our marriages, our religion, we have not chosen, but society has chosen for us. We are parlour soldiers. We shun the rugged battle of fate, where strength is born.

If our young men miscarry in their first enterprises, they lose all heart. If the young merchant fails, men say he is ruined. If the finest genius studies at one of our colleges, and is not installed in an office within one year afterwards in the cities or suburbs of Boston or New York, it seems to his friends and to himself that he is right in being disheartened, and in complaining the rest of his life.

A sturdy lad from New Hampshire or Vermont, who in turn tries all the professions, who teams it, farms it, peddles, keeps a school, preaches, edits a newspaper, goes to Congress, buys a township, and so forth, in successive years, and always, like a cat falls on his feet, is worth a hundred of these city dolls. He walks abreast with his days, and feels no shame in not 'studying a profession,' for he does not postpone his life, but lives already. He has not one chance, but a hundred chances.

Let a Stoic open the resources of man, and tell men they are not leaning willows, but can and must detach themselves; that with the exercise of self-trust, new powers shall appear; that a man is the word made flesh, born to shed healing to the nations, that he should be ashamed of our compassion, and that the moment he acts from himself, tossing the laws, the books, idolatries, and customs out of the window, we pity him no more, but thank and revere him, — and that teacher shall restore the life of man to splendor, and make his name dear to all history."

[Anonymous No.9311138]

>>9310351
>video games
Simulates hunter gatherer activities and problem solving. Fills an important base need, especially if your workday consists of stacking boxes in a warehouse or helping old ladies carry shopping bags.

>watch anime
Fulfills various needs depending on series. Your brain has trouble telling the difference between real people and fake people, so it usually fulfills the desire for social relationships. Even romantic relationships can be simulated to an extent, as I'm sure everyone here should fucking well know. This is 4chan for fuck's sake, this should be obvious.

>cosplay
It's a ritual through which otherwise non-social individuals have a structure through which to interact with other people, mainly other non-social individuals.

>How do modern philosopher explain it?
Incorrectly. Probably through some horseshit Marxist or feminist framework.

All of these activities help satiate innate human desires that are otherwise not being properly fulfilled by modern society. As to why society is unable to fulfill that need, that's another question.

[Anonymous No.9311143]

>>9311138
>Being this pathetic
Muh anime muh video games

Jesus bro. And then trying to pass off your brilliant analytical insight derived from feminist Marxist sociology as somehow independent of those methodologies?

Wew

[Anonymous No.9311154]

>>9311092
Womanchildren exist, but men will fuck anyone so they are usually involved in some sort of relationship. A woman who does nothing but chug wine and watch tv all day while their husband works is a womanchild.

[Anonymous No.9311157]

>>9311143
>feminist Marxist sociology

Where did the hegemonic block touch you?

It's okay, you're in a safe place.

[Anonymous No.9311162]

>>9311157
What?

[Anonymous No.9311167]

>>9311162
You clueless nigger.

[Anonymous No.9311169]

>>9311167
You're a classic Dunning Kruger case study lol

[Anonymous No.9311201]

>video games are bad everyone should read tolstoy like me because it's smort *tips fedora*
basically this thread

[Anonymous No.9311202]

>>9310799
>thinks categorising explain something

[Anonymous No.9311216]

>>9310799
Scientism explains how but not why

[Anonymous No.9311220]

>>9310427
This is the only post here worth reading. To teach yourself discipline is one of the hardest things in the world.

[Anonymous No.9311222]

>>9311138
>Simulates hunter gatherer activities and problem solving.
Oh wow you just got the words out of my mouth.

[Anonymous No.9311227]

>>9310878
>don't want a wife because of the legal complications it could bring
I think you got bigger problems than being a manchild

[Anonymous No.9311228]

>>9310351
>How do modern philosopher explain it?

patriarchy sexism capitalism labor surplus value etc etc

you're literally better off asking a plumber

[Anonymous No.9311231]

>>9311167

Settle down please, Mr Martin Heidegger.

[Anonymous No.9311238]

>>9311169
This meme is getting out of control

[Anonymous No.9311240]

>>9311227
What's wrong with not getting married?

I have a kid, but I'm not married. I don't make enough to be able to afford a divorce, which is more likely than not in my income bracket.

Sure, the kid is going to have a shitty life, but he'll survive.

[Anonymous No.9311245]

>>9311238
>>9311169
>>9311167
dunning krugers detected

[Anonymous No.9311251]

>>9310925
>there's no objectives
>let's just kill each other to find purpose
That's as dumb as it can get, you're no more clever than a guy spending all is days on videogames

[Anonymous No.9311252]

>>9311220
>>9310427
I can definitely relate to this. So what's the solution? How would one go about overcoming the deficiencies if their youth? Obviously I'm not looking for straightforward answers, but just some sort of direction? I know what I have to do, but I keep going back to the simple comforts and not really moving forward.. So I guess the question is HOW?

[Anonymous No.9311270]

>>9311252
step one is to not look for life advice on 4chan

[Anonymous No.9311276]

>>9311138

>Simulates hunter gatherer activities and problem solving.

Except 100% of games has you sitting on your sweaty ass and 99% are casualized shit designed so double-digit IQ mouthbreathers can feel skilled at something.

>Your brain has trouble telling the difference between real people and fake people, so it usually fulfills the desire for social relationships.

If you're quite literally diagnosed with autism, maybe. Otherwise, no.

>It's a ritual through which otherwise non-social individuals have a structure through which to interact with other people, mainly other non-social individuals.

Misspelled autism.


>All of these activities help satiate innate human desires that are otherwise not being properly fulfilled by modern society

Nah man, you got it wrong. Even if we accept your idea that they actually do fulfill the above mentioned desires, the trouble is with the person suffering a lack of fulfillment not going outside of his basement, not society. This is how you spot a pol9k fag. There's this pervasive and pathological inability to take responsibility for anything in their lives that just shines through in every single thought they produce. Always an external locus of control. Sad!

[Anonymous No.9311286]

>>9311070
One day you're going to regret being able to be rock hard and cum multiple times in a row, just enjoy it, focus on the sensations, fuck her 10 times if you need, don't sweat it
>I wish someone had told me that when I was 14

[Anonymous No.9311297]

>>9310351

[Anonymous No.9311298]

>>9310427
Man this hurts. I'm fucking 23 and my parents won't even let me to go the doctor alone. I've tried but they find out and tag along for the appointment. They also pushed me to attend a local university rather than going somewhere further, so I spent those four years under their roof. Even now that I've graduated they're trying to steer my job hunt, constantly sending me positions they think I should apply for. I guess I'm equally at fault for going along with all of this, but it also feels like they never granted me even the facade of independence to learn to be assertive on that front. They wonder why I acted out as a kid and became an edgy punk As a teen, but in retrospect that all feels like compensation for my inability to have any independence under them. I now understand they only tried to do what's best for me and I really do try to appreciate that, but it's hard to get over the feeling that they've restrained me. And the worst part is, I know plenty of people who have even more domineering parents.

[Anonymous No.9311303]

>>9311070

Kegels man, kegels.

[Anonymous No.9311310]

>>9311126

So where is this society then?

Atheism and leftism are cancer; we are literally dying and being replaced by shitskins.

[Anonymous No.9311311]

>>9311109
I always wonder how stupid you have to be to actually believe as strongly such a questionable theory

[Anonymous No.9311314]

>>9311303
I've been doing this for months.
Maybe I'm doing it wrong?

[Anonymous No.9311315]

>>9310661
you got some answers bruh or you just want to keep spouting generic "deep" shit?

[Anonymous No.9311318]

>>9311311

>destroy marriage
>women working
>casual sex
>abortion
>nanny state
>refugees

Perfectly harmless ;^)

[Anonymous No.9311319]

>>9311310
Thanks for that /pol
Opinion fully discarded

[Anonymous No.9311321]

wtf I hate /lit/ - Literature and love /lit/ - Random now

[Anonymous No.9311324]

Surely a miscomprehension that men of old did not choose leisure time for themselves.

Competitive sport, theatre, ritual dressup etc.

[Anonymous No.9311326]

>>9311298
Dude, your parents are sick fucks. Holy shit, people can only have it worse when they get spied on 24/7 or get beaten for misbehaving. You're fucking 23 and your parents treat you like a retarded pet. Yes, it is completely their fault for being so controlling, this is mental abuse you shouldn't underestimate one bit. But holy fuck, you should be assertive, showing them your borders for fucks sake. Whenever I read shit like this, there's two things I can advise: Prevail with dominance, if they like it or not - what they probably will resent, or even disown for doing so. Or move the fuck out immediately, take the next shit job in order to pay moving and rent.

No excuses, go through with it and basta. See how much your parents "care" and "love" you when their pet suddenly misbehaves.

[Anonymous No.9311336]

>>9311240
>What's wrong with not getting married?
Nothing, what's wrong is deciding to not get married because of legal issues

[Anonymous No.9311338]

>>9311319

This is why you lost 2016

[Anonymous No.9311345]

>>9311252
Accept suffering as a part of your life

I mean it

[Anonymous No.9311349]

>>9311338
That's great, I'm from the Netherlands

[Anonymous No.9311378]

I've come to despise "nerd" culture, the most pathetic and degrading debasement of contemporary youth. Personally I'm ashamed I wasted more than 1 grand on star wars merc in my time, to see grown men older than myself indulge in this is proof of our collective sickness

[Anonymous No.9311389]

>>9311338
>he thinks his country could have won
>doesn't see the failure that his country's politic is
>thinks his left and his right are that far apart

[Anonymous No.9311392]

itt: depressed shut-ins putting their superiority complexes on display

[Anonymous No.9311397]

>>9311251

it's not even about war, you retard, is the missions appointed to you, that feeling of having an objetive, also the feeling of belonging to something greater than yourself

[Anonymous No.9311405]

>>9311397
You must be unemployed, NEET man

[Anonymous No.9311407]

>>9311378

Think of all the crack-cocaine you coulda smoked.

[Anonymous No.9311410]

>>9311338
nobody won 2016.

try to analyze the situation with a tiny bit of detachment and maybe you'll realize just how much of an incompetent your billionaire daddy is.

it was never about Trump. you wanted to get back at the left. you made him out to be something he's not.

[Anonymous No.9311412]

>>9311397
>it's not even about war
You made it about war
>the missions appointed to you, that feeling of having an objetive, also the feeling of belonging to something greater than yourself
Don't you think you could find this somewhere else? Or do you think that's the only time someone will feel like having an objective? That belonging only comes when you kill?

[Anonymous No.9311416]

>>9311412
Shocker of the century: retarded illiterate pol memsters worship warfare but are actually completely ignorant of its implications! Stop the presses.

[Anonymous No.9311419]

>>9311407
Rather i could have done something real and experienced life, culture or bettered myself. Instead i got frustrated over the canon status of Knights of the Old republic and taking pride in my shallow millenialism

[Anonymous No.9311420]

>>9310351
its just dumb entertainment, nothing wrong with that. Without games and anime I would have nothing to do when I am too tired to read.

[Anonymous No.9311428]

>>9311321
>HURR I SUCK COCKS AND ONLY WANT SERIOUS LITERATURE DISCUSSION DURRRRRRRRRR

[Anonymous No.9311435]

>>9311428
Redpill me on Zizek, why does he shniff

[Anonymous No.9311436]

Males are mostly expendable, most of us have no reason to exist. Society needs a way to get rid of excess males, in the Middle Ages, they did it through religion, many males were sent to monasteries and spent their entire lives copying old books and drawing silly miniatures, during the modern age, excess males were sent to war or to colonies.

Frankly, I'd rather watch anime, play video-games and read in the comfort of my room than be sent to explore South America or to die in a trench.

[Anonymous No.9311439]

>>9311419
>Rather i could have done something real and experienced life, culture or bettered myself
oh boy empty buzzwords

but you could have sperged out over better shit than star wars

[Anonymous No.9311442]

>>9311416
I'm easily impressed

[Anonymous No.9311443]

>>9311436
Good goy.

[Anonymous No.9311445]

>>9311436
I dunno, theres less glory in dying a fucking neet loser than in a trench for some common goal

[Anonymous No.9311447]

>>9311436
>Beta males are mostly expendable

ftfy.

[Anonymous No.9311450]

>>9311436
I'm with you on the trench thing but exploring the new world sounds pretty fucking cool

[Anonymous No.9311452]

>>9311436
>in the Middle Ages, they did it through religion, many males were sent to monasteries and spent their entire lives copying old books and drawing silly miniatures
They actually were very useful to the emperor and to the pope, you're stupid

[Anonymous No.9311456]

>>9311439
You honestly think "nerd" culture isn't empty mediocrity?

[Anonymous No.9311458]

>>9311445
>yes goy, die for my personal profi... I mean die for the good of the nation

[Anonymous No.9311462]

why not let them be happy, anon?

[Anonymous No.9311466]

>>9311458
If you're an American, sure

[Anonymous No.9311468]

>>9310813
Good thing is you managed to find a way to feel superior to both.

[Anonymous No.9311469]

>>9311462
If someone's living the manchild lifestyle, chances are they're not happy.

[Anonymous No.9311474]

>>9311462
Because its degenerate and destroys society

This is a ex-friend of mine transition from being your regular beta male, to a neet weeb cucklord

2014

[Anonymous No.9311475]

>>9311468
The meta-manchild is the overman NEETzsche predicted

[Anonymous No.9311476]

>>9311474
2015

[Anonymous No.9311479]

>>9311456
there's literally nothing wrong with being an enthusiast as long as you go about it in the right way(i.e less pointless nerd rage online discussions and more things that actually help you develop better taste in your chosen field)

it's more likely that you're doing high culture a disservice by interacting with it actually, since most people are mediocre

[Anonymous No.9311482]

>>9311476
2017

[Anonymous No.9311488]

>>9311474
>degenerate
>cucklord
People who unironically use these words have zero authority to judge anyone. Even the bottom-feeding weaboo trash. Unless you're underage there's no excuse to deliberately be this retarded.

[Anonymous No.9311489]

>why do they play video games
Go play F-Zero X for 20 minutes and come back and tell me that you didn't have a better time than you would have had browsing 4chan.

[Anonymous No.9311491]

>>9311201
it's also the truth, you nerd

[Anonymous No.9311494]

>>9311445
>glory in dying

[Anonymous No.9311496]

>>9311479
I am utterly mediocre, believe me i know that. And i still consume much "nerd" media, I'm just ashamed it has become a legitimate identity for my generation, one that i seriously embraced when it is figuratively just junk food.lesser extent for "gamer" culture

[Anonymous No.9311497]

>>9311488
>Using a word means you have no right to anything!!!
>Even if your point is right

Eat shit plebbitor trash, if you wanna take the high ground in a conversation at least be logical and avoid low-tier ad hominem

I bet you are a lefty liberal progressive atheist weebnigger cucklord

>hurr durr buzzwords ur wrong!!11!

[Anonymous No.9311504]

>>9311497
your ex-friend fucked your oneitis didn't he

[Anonymous No.9311508]

>>9311497
You should suck a cock

Honestly

[Anonymous No.9311509]

>>9311497
>being this much of an underage cretin
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.9311515]

>>9311494
>Stirnerposting
>Defense of manchild selfishness

Great surprise there

[Anonymous No.9311519]

>>9311482
he transformed into an indian?

[Anonymous No.9311521]

>>9311497
Hey, I don't like you.

[Anonymous No.9311523]

>>9310453
>video games
>physical pastime
>just like sports
>just like sports
>like sports
>physical
>p h y s i c a l

[Anonymous No.9311525]

>>9311497
>13 year olds
>on my /lit/

[Anonymous No.9311527]

Guess I triggered some special snowflakes

Shut up cucks, your ideologies are just like your lives

Shit

Oh sorry, shit can actually be useful to earth :^)

[Anonymous No.9311536]

>>9311504
>>9311508
>>9311509
>>>/gaschamber/ imo

[Anonymous No.9311539]

>>9311445
>glory

spook overload over here

[Anonymous No.9311542]

>>9311536
i bet he's giving her the stinky weeb cock right now

[Anonymous No.9311544]

>>9311519
Thats what 4 years of exposure to heavy anime and no hobbies or human interaction (outside online ) leads to

He actually played 800H of Nekopara games ( taking screenshots it seems like ) and has 1TB dedicated to anime, because he is so retarded he downloads the same anime in 2 different versions ( 720p and 1080p )

Weebniggers, the worst kind of niggers

[Anonymous No.9311553]

>>9310453
>physical pastime like sports
You're retarded if you actually believe this. To excel in sport, constant work is required to maintain your physical condition as well as practice to keep your form. Video games require nowhere near as much physical exertion, discipline, and constant effort.

Hitting a baseball or sinking a shot in basketball requires infinitely more skill and discipline than shooting someone in call of duty

[Anonymous No.9311556]

>>9311515
It wasn't a defense of manchildren, bucko, it was a valid criticism of your shit argument. Not even virtuecucks stoop as low as 'muh posthumous glory'. Step it up.

[Anonymous No.9311560]

>>9311542
>Implying weebs fuck women
>especially pic related

You leftists liberals cucks are the most delusional kind of people to ever exist, you resort to so much bullshit its insane

Just admit, you are wrong or at least shut the fuck up so many butthurt because you are objectively wrong

[Anonymous No.9311562]

further evidence that the united states of america was a mistake

[Anonymous No.9311565]

>>9311560
her hips are moving on their own

[Anonymous No.9311567]

>>9311560
This is an 18+ site. Please, leave.

[Anonymous No.9311569]

>>9311527
>lol Pokémon reference, just like my idealised 90s childhood
>Reminds me i can analogise this to current day issues like Donald Trump and Obama care in my totally unique snarky Twitter account @AshCatsup (get it?)
>Lol such a nerd

[Anonymous No.9311574]

>>9310351

Is this from a book? Why the fuck is this here?

[Anonymous No.9311575]

>>9311562
This.

[Anonymous No.9311576]

>>9311567
dam u need to expand ur mind man

[Anonymous No.9311580]

>>9311565
Stop projecting

[Anonymous No.9311582]

>>9311567
>This is a site
4chan has been a subreddit since 2011.

[Anonymous No.9311586]

>>9311580
next thing he is gonna tell you is ''muh gender cap is real'' and ''there is nothing wrong with open relationship'' or some other liberal lefty bullshit

[Anonymous No.9311595]

>>9311586
I bet Tyrone is finishing inside his ''gf'' as we speak, and he keep jerking off with one hand while shitposting with the other

And he calls me a cuck, because irony

[Anonymous No.9311599]

itt

[Anonymous No.9311601]

>>9310351
Why? >>>/pol/118833788

[Anonymous No.9311603]

>>9311582
>muh super secret autistic maymay club
4chan was never good

[Anonymous No.9311610]

>>9311595
>>9311586
>responding to your own posts

[Anonymous No.9311611]

>>9311603
Found the redditor

[Anonymous No.9311615]

>>9311601
Reading is a sin against the Lord and bookfags must be killed for it.

[Anonymous No.9311623]

>>9311497
>5 replies
>All of them consisting of ad hominem
really makes me think why the left is losing its influence with the new generation

[Anonymous No.9311626]

>>9311623
all me btw

[Anonymous No.9311632]

>>9311623
in your case it's more like ad homonem lol

[Anonymous No.9311633]

>>9311595
what's wrong with being a cuckold

why do you attribute so much meaning to sexual intercourse

[Anonymous No.9311637]

>>9311632
holy f-ck........

[Anonymous No.9311638]

>>9311633
another reply to your own post what a HOMO

[Anonymous No.9311658]

>whats wrong with being a cuckhold

Simple stuff from manhood like honor, dignity, value and respect for yourself and your family

Sorry, I know if you were actually intelligent you wouldn't have become a flaming lefty cuck in the first place

Now Tyrone is done, get ready for round 2 with 2 other black niggers this time, you don't wanna miss that hum?

[Anonymous No.9311669]

>>9311658
see
>>9311638

[Anonymous No.9311671]

>>9311314
>he's been clenching his sphincter for months

[Anonymous No.9311677]

>>9310351
I found myself contemplating that the other day

I'm the first in maybe five or so generations of my family that doesn't experience any form of actual suffering throughout their life
Didn't experience WW1, didn't experience WW2, didn't experience hunger during or after the war, half my family was born in the in the USSR up til it collapsed and I sure did miss out on that whole thing
Hard physical labor? I will never know what that feels like

I was born at the perfect moment in time to be a lazy airhead without drive or ambition, exploring ever new ways to waste my time

Good god if I didn't feel some sort of vague obligation to get a job and show my parents they didn't fuck up I could easily never work a single day and leech off of welfare for my entire life until my dying day.

>>9311632
nice

[Anonymous No.9311682]

>>9310741
Yeah, playing make believe and indulging in fantasies of being a fantasy hero, or competitively shooting avatars of 12 year olds in the face is just as dignified and challenging as physical sport or chess.

Video games are a cancer to modern men. It's the realm of children.

[Anonymous No.9311698]

I think that beign a man-child is a symptom of a psychological disorder. The causes are too complex, too many, and they vary according to the subject.
So I doubt that there's a whole generation or population of manchilds. They are just isolated cases. Like beign a psycopath. Sure, there are common causes, but there are causes that are exclusive to the subject.
It's like asking "Why are you who you are?" Too many answers, all of them different according to the person.

[Anonymous No.9311700]

>>9311658
none of this is particularly convincing.

explain how honor, diginity and "value" are inherently male values.

explain how those are damaged when two people who aren't me do something that doesn't involve me.

explain how somebody else's penis in my hypothetical wife's vagina consists in disrespecting my hypothetical family.

explain how some obscure fetish necessarily means I am a leftist. that's the furthest stretch you've made.

I thought you were all about logic buddy

[Anonymous No.9311706]

>>9311700
another reply to your own post what a HOMO

[Anonymous No.9311710]

>>9311706
why is "homo" an insult

does anybody here even try to substantiate their shitposting

[Anonymous No.9311713]

>being a cuck in current year

[Anonymous No.9311715]

Stoo frogposting and replying to baits, ya deengus.

[Anonymous No.9311718]

>>9311710
>substantiate shitposting
>what is an oxymoron

[Anonymous No.9311719]

>>9311715
All me by the way

[Anonymous No.9311720]

>>9310807
if you can ignore the obnoxious iconography and many of the 'standard anime bullshit' episodes, neon genesis evangelion is a very good example of an anime.

[Anonymous No.9311722]

>>9311615
das rite wite boi

[Anonymous No.9311723]

>>9311719
Can confirm, every post in this thread is my property.

[Anonymous No.9311724]

>>9310351
Because it's fun, and I like fun things. I'm not ashamed of being a child, I'd only be ashamed of not following my own desire.

[Anonymous No.9311725]

>>9311154
or they can't get over pink shit and dolls and dolls houses et . and there are heaps of female weebs and anime lovers

[Anonymous No.9311729]

>>9311715
>bait
the practice involves wasting your own time in hopes that you will waste somebody else's. the implication is that your time is worth less than theirs, and that's sad.

if I had something better to do than responding to bait I'd also have something better to do than being on this shitty board in the first place.

>>9311718
why not? there's no reputation at stake here

[Anonymous No.9311741]

>>9310515
What are the best animes. I watched Akira the other day and really liked it.

[Anonymous No.9311744]

>>9310351
Life is too hard and I am too weak. I like things that let me escape it.

[Anonymous No.9311745]

>>9311741
google it fag

[Anonymous No.9311746]

>>9311724
have you no desire for self-improvement whatsoever? because that can only be accomplished by delaying gratification.

I'm going to assume that you wish you were in better shape, more knowledgeable, more educated, you know the works.

[Anonymous No.9311750]

>>9311746
lol nerd

[Anonymous No.9311751]

>>9311729
You're still a deengus.