/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.909454]

1. Nobody cares about the novel you're working on.
2. Nobody wants to steal your shitty stories/poetry.
3. Don't post your shit online. It only shows that you're an amateur that doesn't understand FNASR. Google it.
4. If you want to get better at writing: read books and practice your writing more. That's all you need to do.
5. If you have trouble seeing a story through to the end or coming up with ideas for a story, then you shouldn't be writing in the first place, and you should consider another hobby. Try bowling.

[Anonymous No.909466]

I think that posting shit on /lit/ can be helpful to get another opinion / see what youre doing wrong. also, anyone who posts something they intend on selling is obviously an idiot, but that doesn't mean you shouldnt post anything. also also writerfags arent that annoying

[Anonymous No.909462]

>writers-bad for literature
do you see the limitations?

[Anonymous No.909473]

I'm Anne Frank, and I approve this thread.

[Anonymous No.909471]

>FNASR
Whinging Amerifag detected.

[Anonymous No.909476]

writerfags? you sound like a tard.
authorfags or bust.

also fuck off.

[Anonymous No.909492]

>>909466
if you want critique for a story, the internet in general is the last place you should look. It's like an unpublished writer asking other unpublished writers what they're doing wrong. Find someone in real life who knows what they're talking about.

[Anonymous No.909497]

>>909476
there are no authors on /lit/

[Anonymous No.909504]

>5. If you have trouble seeing a story through to the end or coming up with ideas for a story, then you shouldn't be writing in the first place, and you should consider another hobby. Try bowling.
Bullshit, a story envolves of itelf after starting writing, you don't have to know the ending when you start writing, it will be there when you need, it just pops out in your brain like it was obvious from the beginning. Characters, stories, ideas, everything you planned in the beginning changes in most cases when it comes to novels, only cliche fantasy books and non-fiction book don't change in the progress.

[Anonymous No.909509]

>>909504
yeah but if you need to come to /lit/ because you don't have any ideas, especially any ideas to start a story, you aren't really cut out for writing.
>>909492
i mean its not ideal, but its not the worst either. /lit/ can be pretty decent at the right time.

[Anonymous No.909510]

>>909471
Enjoy your surveillance camera-ridden police state and being surrounded by cooler cultures who hate your country to death.

[Anonymous No.909520]

>>909510
I didn't know New Zealand was a police state, good to know!

[None !UyhAEqbnp. No.909521]

Writers are /lit/

deal with it

[Anonymous No.909537]

agreed

i just scroll past every writing share thread

[Anonymous No.909546]

>>909537
dude download the 4chan extension and hide that shit

[Anonymous No.909549]

>>909520
Censorship is so widespread in New Zealand you can't even watch an episode of the Power Rangers. I'm surprised your shitty country isn't burning books right this very second.

[Anonymous No.909606]

OP this is my first day here and I was wondering if all these wannabe writers showing their work was what is usually going on here
I'm glad to see that some of the usual visitors of this board despise them as well

Just a fair warning to those that don't mind: Do you want this board to turn into some kind of fanfiction appreciation board? cause that's what this will lead to in the end, believe me
The retards will come, and they will see it's o.k. to post what you write, and at first there are enough of you to ridicule them but some will see the signs and leave and more retards will come in and before you know it you will have twilight fanfiction coming out the wazoo

And you'll only have yourselves to blame

[Anonymous No.909609]

writers of the /lit/ unite

[Anonymous No.909624]

>>909606
>fanfiction appreciation board?
>twilight fanfiction coming out the wazoo

You are fucking stupid.

[Anonymous No.909629]

>>909606
nice post number. that's never going to happen.

[Anonymous No.909652]

>>909624
>>909629

You keep telling yourself that, I have seen other boards on 4chan go to shit in much the same way
/a/ to name but 1 of the main boards, the retards rule and the old crowd is GONE

[Anonymous No.909665]

6. If you absolutely must post your shit online, you should go to Deviant Art.

[Anonymous No.909673]

>>909652
Pretty much 100% of this board hates fanfic (at least the fanfic you are prophesying) and Twilight. Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.909697]

>>909665
DevArt is one gigantic circle-jerk of people being nice to eachother's works and attempts. Anybody who actually tries to critique, positively or negatively, is insulted, attacked/flamed, even reported and banned sometimes, or ignored.
People post their shit here because people here will either be harsh or honest.

[Anonymous No.909710]

>>909673
See:
>>906663
>116 posts and 46 image replies omitted. Click Reply to view.

[Anonymous No.909718]

OP is a faggot.

Every single board has something "ruining" it, and most of those things legitimately suck. If this is what's ruining ours, then I can't say I care too much. Stop being such a whiny fucking twat.

[Anonymous No.909727]

>>909673
>>909710
I don't HATE fanfic. I find it interesting and crazy. And if someone wants to write some fucking insane crossover between The Little Mermaid and Saw and post it here, that's fine. But /lit/ is not ever going to be filled with people dumping whatever Twilight fanfics. Not going to happen.

[Anonymous No.909732]

>>909710
>implying that is a thread endorsing fanfic

Seriously, they're all pointing out how shitty it is and laughing their asses off. Good job.

[Anonymous No.909733]

>>909673

Right that's why you can start a thread about Harry Potter on almost any board and get a full thread

I might have exaggerated a bit but believe me allowing, WELCOMING people that write opens the doors to fan-fiction and that opens the door to bad fan fiction
There are so many websites and forums where you can share and talk about your ownb fiction, why on earth would you do it here?
Right now you still have a choice and you can say collectively, we want to talk about real books here, not what you cooked up in your spare time
If you let it go on it will be board culture and nothing will stem the flow of people coming in and talking about their "work"
Doesn't bother me much, as I said it's my first day visiting this board and I have no intention of spending much time here, but I have seen boards go down the drain by allowing the retards a foothold
Up to you what you do with my advice

[Anonymous No.909738]

>>909733
Is Harry Potter fanfiction? It was a childhood favorite of many and it makes sense for there to be discussion of it.

>Doesn't bother me much, as I said it's my first day visiting this board and I have no intention of spending much time here, but I have seen boards go down the drain by allowing the retards a foothold

Well holy shit, the pot is calling the kettle black.

[Anonymous No.909740]

"The Artist is Present" reaction images are killing /lit/

[Anonymous No.909741]

>>909732
doesn't change the fact that moot claims

>This is not a fanfic board!

[Anonymous No.909742]

You know what ruins /lit/?
Threads not about /lit/erature, like this one.

[Anonymous No.909755]

>>909742

point OP is trying to make is that dumping your own story is also not officialy part of /lit/

[MC No.909815]

If this is a response to the thread I made last night, OP is a gigantic cunt.

Otherwise, I agree, for the most part.

/lit/ is not for sharing amateur writing; it's for discussing H. G. Wells and George Orwell.
Nobody actually steals stories/poetry; there's no reason to, unless you're trying to troll the author.
I've posted my shit online, but after talking to some people in that thread last night, I'm taking it down.
I've also realized that I'm no longer good at writing because I no longer read. So it's true.
And that fifth point is kind of obvious, unless OP is implying that only bad writers ever procrastinate.

[Anonymous No.909837]

>>909815
>not for amateur writing
>discuss HG Wells and George Orwell
you can only choose 1

[Anonymous No.909847]

>>909697
> DevArt is one gigantic circle-jerk of people being nice to eachother's works and attempts.

True, and I hate it. The site could be such a great place for artists, but absolutely 100% of the feedback there is 100% positive, because people only give feedback in the first place in order to draw attention to themselves. Basically, everyone with a deivantART account thinks he or she is the best artist ever. The only acceptable measure of how good you are is how many people are subscribed to your profile, and that's not very reliable either.

At the moment, I'm only using my deviantART account to post garbage poetry that I never finished. It's funny when people favorite it anyway. Ideally, I'd like my deviantART account to effectively forward people to my own website, which is filled with far less stupidity and anime.

[Anonymous No.909855]

>>909837
> Implying that world-famous and highly influential authors are amateur.

I raged, then laughed.

9/10

[Anonymous No.909866]

The funny thing is that by pointing out what you don't want to happen in this board, that is invariably what is going to happen. I'm not sure you noticed but this is 4chan. Lit may be one of the better boards, but if you really think this is a mecca for literati then you are sorely mistaken.

You should have just taken the one in ten critique posts in begrudging silence. Now you must prepare for the flood that your careless anger has wrought.

[Anonymous No.909867]

>>909855
I do try.

[Anonymous No.909891]

>>909454

1. Nobody cares about your bowling handicap.
2. Nobody wants to steal your shitty bowling ball.
3. Don't post your shitty scores online. It only shows that you're an amateur that doesn't understand the PBA. Google it.
4. If you want to get better at bowling: read books and practice your bowling more. That's all you need to do.
5. If you have trouble seeing a frame through to the end or coming up with ideas for strategy, then you shouldn't be bowling in the first place, and you should consider another hobby. Try writing.

[Anonymous No.909913]

>>909891

I lol'd.
Then I stopped.
Then I lol'd some more.

[Anonymous No.910005]

The 4chan community just doesn't tolerate fanfiction unless it's so bad it's good - and even then, it's a condescending laughter, not genuine appreciation.

[Anonymous No.910033]

>>910005

So people posting "good" bad fan fiction and then that turning in to people also posting "bad" bad fan fiction doesn't worry you?
Copypasta is like that to name just one thing, and forced and/or tired memes are like that, why are some of you so convinced that bad writers and maybe even fan fiction won't get a hold?

[Anonymous No.910045]

>>910033
Bad writers certainly will

the sort of people who write bad fanfiction just dont come around here. i'm not saying the board will always be awesome, i'm saying that the specific change you're talking about is, like, thermodynamically impossible. bad writers, yes. people who like fanfiction, yes. annoyingly bad fanfiction writers, no.

[Anonymous No.910047]

I enjoy writerfag threads. I never post my own shit. But I still enjoy reading others.

[Anonymous No.910060]

>>910047
Same. I actually really like to read what other people on here are working on.

[Anonymous No.910098]

Butthurt fags are killing /lit/

1. Nobody gives a shit about what you say.
2. Nobody is going to listen to you.
3. I doubt anybody read this far.
4. If you want attention: kill yourself.
5. Shut up. Writing is pertinent to /lit/.

[Anonymous No.910569]

>>910098
U MAD

[Anonymous No.910578]

>>910569

[Anonymous No.910589]

this thread sure does have a lot of angry writerfags in it.

[Anonymous No.910613]

>>910589

And it has you, little Billy Butthurt, so that's nice!

[Anonymous No.910659]

[Anonymous No.910707]

>>909454
Oh wow, it's like the threads on /co/ and /tg/ where people whined about drawfags and writefags.
>1. Nobody cares about the novel you're working on.
Not true. I genuinely enjoy ripping people up here on /lit/.
>2. Nobody wants to steal your shitty stories/poetry.
Also, not true. If I see an idea with potential, I'll steal it in a heartbeat. I browse /tg/ for story threads for this very reason.
>3. Don't post your shit online. It only shows that you're an amateur that doesn't understand FNASR. Google it.
So they can't post practice pieces to get feedback? Well geez, fuck that process of getting criticism and trying to improve, folks!
>4. If you want to get better at writing: read books and practice your writing more. That's all you need to do.
Apparently feedback isn't needed, guys! This guy said so.
>5. If you have trouble seeing a story through to the end or coming up with ideas for a story, then you shouldn't be writing in the first place, and you should consider another hobby. Try bowling.
I do agree with this one, trawling for creative ideas from other people because you can't come up with any means you suck.

But really, OP, why do you care? Hide the thread, and move on.

Why u mad?

[Anonymous No.910757]

>>910707
>So they can't post practice pieces to get feedback? Well geez, fuck that process of getting criticism and trying to improve, folks!

I don't know what FNASR is and can't be bothered to learn what it is.

[Anonymous No.910781]

>>910757
>I can't read, and clearly missed "practice pieces"
lol u mad faggot?

[Anonymous No.910788]

>>910781
yeah, I sort of started to disregard everything you had to say once you thought that it was impossible to get criticism without posting your shit online.

Getting criticism from the internet? What's a matter, don't have any friends in real life?

[Anonymous No.910805]

>>910788
no rly, why u mad?

[Anonymous No.910824]

>>910805
not mad, just disappointed in you. You should know better.

[Anonymous No.910847]

>this thread

[Sizer !cqOC93qhlE No.910861]

To be honest I like reading other peoples lame ass stories......Deal with it I guess?

[Anonymous No.910872]

>I AM ONE PERSON WHO DOESN'T LIKE WHAT PEOPLE DO SO I AM GOING TO POST ANGRILY UNTIL THEY STOP
That being said I don't much care for the constant writefagging that goes on here either, but I'm not an infant who can't stand people doing something I don't want them to do.

[Anonymous No.910976]

I don't know any serious readerfags who have never aspired to writerfaggotry. You can't put two readerfags in a room without one of them wanting to show off something they've written. Trying to stamp it out is ridiculous.

Writerfags are not the problem with /lit/. I see too many Ayn Rand troll threads and "HAHAHA, DOESN'T TWILIGHT SUCK? LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH IT SUCKS FOR 900 POSTS BECAUSE THIS HAS TOTALLY NOT BEEN COVERED" threads to buy into that.

Skip them if you don't like them. They're a small minority of threads anyway.

[Anonymous No.910977]

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[Anonymous No.911005]

/lit/ - literature
Fuck you guys if you want to write and discuss literature. That's the last thing we want here.

Sage for bad thread.

[Anonymous No.912468]

OP is right and you know that.

[Anonymous No.912472]

>>912468

[Anonymous No.912486]

>>910872
Do you understand how imageboards and web communities work?

It's like it really is your first time posting on the internet.

[Anonymous No.912497]

>>912486
Infant detected
Does baby want its bottle

[Anonymous No.912500]

>>912497
Actually, he's right. You're the one being an infant.

[Anonymous No.912505]

>>912500
I respect your opinion

[sage No.912532]

>>912486
>image boards
>web communities

these work differently

[Anonymous No.912535]

>>912505
And I respect that you have an ego like a dirigible. Good day, sir.

[Anonymous No.912554]

Everyone wants to write a novel. EVERYONE.

There's an effect called the Forer effect, where people tend to take broad generalizations and personalize them. This is how horoscopes work.

One man (some famous British magician) did an experiment where he had a group of women write a sentence, and trace their hand on a piece of paper. Then he dicked around for a few hours watching TV, and came back with a 2 page detailed outline of their personalities. Obviously, these were all the same. Every single one of them was amazed at how well he could figure them out based on nothing but a hand outline and their handwriting. Some were in tears.

Then he had them trade their 'personal analysis.' He proved that everyone has the same broad insecurities, wants, needs, etc. He also sprinkled some specific stuff to make it seem stronger. Know what he wrote on each one?

"You always thought about writing a novel, but haven't gotten around to it for a number of reasons."

Everyone wants to write. Most suck. Stop clogging /lit/ with your shit writing. Go take a class or something. This is just the blind leading the blind.

[Anonymous No.912559]

>>912554
That's one fucked up dog.

The picture is weird, too.


Thanks, I'll be here all night.

[Anonymous No.912561]

>>912559

Don't talk about your mother that way!

[Anonymous No.912562]

>>909471
You should read that article.

It explains European, British, Australian, Anthology, etc. SR as well.

Or you could be a butthurt non-American who comes to American websites and bitch about them without knowing what he's talking about. Whatever works for you.

[Anonymous No.912586]

>>912554
The guy's name is Derren Brown.

Here's a link to the YouTube of him doing that experiment you were talking about. Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btP_vy5cQq4

[Anonymous No.912590]

>>912532
What are you trying to say? That imageboards are not web communities? In what world does this make sense?
(And sage goes in the e-mail field)

[Anonymous No.912593]

>>912561
Mom, you don't know how to use a computer. Get off the computer! You don't even know about 4chan.

[sage No.912607]

>>912590
perhaps you haven't seen me around.
"sage" goes in my name field. "noko" goes in my email field, unless I am "sageing"

>I HAD A BIG POST WRITTEN OUT, BUT THEN I REALIZED THAT I AM A FAG.
disregard those posts, I suck cocks.

The post that was referenced was >>910872 , but I thought it was >>912472 , in which case I was defending the ridiculing of thread necromancy -- which I think we can all agree is not a good thing.

[Anonymous No.912608]

>>912586
It's a little depressing knowing that for all the posturing about uniqueness we do basally we are exactly the same. Thanks for the link, though.

[Anonymous No.912632]

>>912607
I can't make sense of this maze of quotes, my addled, sleepy brain cannot make room so I'll assume you statement was warranted. No, I haven't seen you around but I guess now I'll have my eye open.

[Anonymous No.912633]

>>912607
Wanna know a secret?

no one gives a rat's ass

[sage No.912637]

>>912607
tl;dr for anyone who didn't get it:

1. No, I didn't screw up "sage goes in the email field"
if I'm sageing, I put it in every field, and it just happens to save the "name" field for me.

2. I realized that my comments were misguided and aimed at the wrong thing. so disregard those posts, i suck cock