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4chan starts picking up on an obscure topic which hits a nerve.

Several threads of high quality information pertaining to the subject are posted.

Several days later, a major news paper publishes an article on the same subject, with the added obvious political spin of it's higher ups, containing the same sources and information.

Many such cases.

Doesn't the new york times have a better avant grade to observe? Sad.

>> No.9093795

>>9093696
You can't really blame them. This site is a nerve center for counter culture and interesting obscurities, all of which is open to everyone to see. They will never become better writers and journalists, though in such a world it's the mediocre ones that befit those roles.

>> No.9093846

>>9093795
Still though, makes me feel a lot better about wasting my youth on image boards.

Sure, these nerds were studying, playing lacrosse, getting laid and being accepted to Harvard. Sure, I instead spent my time reading cartoons by domestic terrorist, rambling blog posts by japanaphiles about their fall into sexual deviency left unrestricted by reality thanks to henti porn, and essays by every type of proto-fascist pseudo futurist anarchist reactionary under the sun.

And god, at times I thought it was a complete waste of time. Spending hours clicking links, digging deeper into obscure internet communities, and chatting with psychotic borderline autistic white nationalists who thought they could use black magic and their imagination to murder their enemies. Sometimes I'd break down and cry- by god, I was wasting my life! While the world moved around me! and I was unemployed! and I masturbated too much and my room smelt like cum! and everything I felt like I learned simply disgusted everyone normal!

But look at the world now. Those same elites are now regurgitating the opinions of philosophers I was getting bored of in 2012. It feels indescribably vindicating.

>> No.9093876

do not read my posts
silly journalist :6

>> No.9093934

it was just me the whole time. I swear to God

>> No.9093943

>>9093934
just you what?

>> No.9095093

I steal everything off 4chan and use it in my work, never had an original idea but i make 6 figures a year now.

>t. creator of a popular cable show

>> No.9095107

>>9093846
capitalize God you fucking prick

>> No.9095116
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>>9095107
Wait there's more. See this guy. He swims upstream ... like a salmon AND a cat! What an asshole, he's gonna get swiped.

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>>9095116
>there's no third act
>there's no third act
>there's no third act

>> No.9095211

>>9095107
That's the only problem you have with his post???

>> No.9095220

>>9095093
You're not brazilian, are you? A few weeks ago I was passing through channels and suddenly saw this thing that was like a realist big bang theory in which the guys weren't such caricatures and everything was more human (but still shit), and there were two guys who were pretty much a E-Rated Pepe and Wojak

>> No.9095240

>>9095198
Also the makers of Stranger Things broke into my house and stalked me while I was in school. I have photographic evidence but I didn't go to the police because I'm stupid.

>> No.9095497

>>9093696
Examples?

>> No.9095557

>>9095093
what show?

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>>9095116
reely?

>> No.9096098

>>9093696
ohmygodmystarwarsfanficwillbepublishedinamajornewspaper!!!!!!!
moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.9096112

>>9095107
gode in french means 'dildo'
themoreyouknow.jpg

>> No.9096247
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Boop.

>> No.9096743

>>9095093
go to bed sam

>> No.9098472

bump

>> No.9098493

4chan really and truly is a leading indicator. Twice now we've presaged a general cultural shift.

We did it during the Bush years with the turn towards leftism and cultural liberalism.

We did it during the Obama years with the turn towards conservatism and authoritarianism.

If you want to know where the world is headed, just spend some time here.

>> No.9098515

>>9098493
This is fucking true. 4chan is always ahead of the curve.

>> No.9099040

>>9098493
Why do you think this is the case?

>> No.9099048

>>9096743
lol.

>> No.9099055

>>9098493
>We did it during the Bush years with the turn towards leftism and cultural liberalism.
The website that has the words niggers and faggots in every thread? This site will always have everything in it. Tons of progressives and conservatives here on /lit/. Stupid to say that the site has a general vibe. Go on /b/ and I'm sure you'll find people hate Trump. Certain boards lean, but you can't categorize the entire site. It's as dumb as people trying to categorize America.

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>mfw girardfag is one of the most important living intellectuals as of this moment

>> No.9099097

>>9099055
at that stage, using words like nigger and faggot was seen as upholding cultural liberalism, namely the virtue of free expression.

now the zeitgeist has shifted usage of the same words on the same site are said to uphold white supremacy and/or the patriarchy

never forget when bill o'reilly called us far left terrorists

>> No.9099118

>>9093846
Know how you feel tbqh. Was saying 4chan was the centre of the world two years ago.
Just saw BronzeAgePervert of esoteric twitter written about in The Atlantic.

>> No.9099145

>>9099097
I don't think I'll ever recover from the whiplash of free speech suddenly becoming a conservative position
it all happened so quickly

>> No.9099148

>>9099118
The Atlantic fucking interviewed Kantbot. The memes have grown too extreme.

>> No.9099154

>>9099148
I love this ride.

>> No.9099166

>>9099040
It's a collection of marginal people in a ruthless environment. This is a cultural revolution maker.
Also no penalties for speech means new ideas can be tried out and formulated faster.

>> No.9099173

>>9099154
I hate it desu

>> No.9099210

>>9099145
indeed, it's all quite bizarre. here's an excellent article from the early days of the web that i think is quite prescient in anticipating how the digital age could inspire a reevaluation of our understanding of free speech:
http://www.juliandibbell.com/texts/bungle_vv.html

>Where before I'd found it hard to take virtual rape seriously, I now was finding it difficult to remember how I could ever not have taken it seriously. I was proud to have arrived at this perspective -- it felt like an exotic sort of achievement, and it definitely made my ongoing experience of the MOO a richer one.

>But it was also having some unsettling effects on the way I looked at the rest of the world. Sometimes, for instance, it was hard for me to understand why RL society classifies RL rape alongside crimes against person or property. Since rape can occur without any physical pain or damage, I found myself reasoning, then it must be classed as a crime against the mind -- more intimately and deeply hurtful, to be sure, than cross burnings, wolf whistles, and virtual rape, but undeniably located on the same conceptual continuum. I did not, however, conclude as a result that rapists were protected in any fashion by the First Amendment. Quite the opposite, in fact: the more seriously I took the notion of virtual rape, the less seriously I was able to take the notion of freedom of speech, with its tidy division of the world into the symbolic and the real.

>Let me assure you, though, that I am not presenting these thoughts as arguments. I offer them, rather, as a picture of the sort of mind-set that deep immersion in a virtual world has inspired in me. I offer them also, therefore, as a kind of prophecy. For whatever else these thoughts tell me, I have come to believe that they announce the final stages of our decades-long passage into the Information Age, a paradigm shift that the classic liberal firewall between word and deed (itself a product of an earlier paradigm shift commonly known as the Enlightenment) is not likely to survive intact.

>> No.9099238

>>9099154
I want to get off this ride.

>> No.9099245

>>9099210
very interesting article, thank you

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>>9099210
What I believe to be central in this discourse(although not many people recognize it as such) is the recent re-imagining of online interaction to include explicit identification and activity ownership, as well as media sites defining "success" as gathering the maximum amount of exposure.

The act of baring one's self to the masses with a page that can be accessed by ANYONE is seen by many as PRECURSORY to any online interaction. People are willingly putting themselves on a pedestal and broadcasting intimate thoughts, opinions, rants, anger, etc. what's more, people actively work so that as many people as possible see them. They are incentivized to do this without any effort to explain how this can hurt them.

If you were to publicly insult a bystander in front of a crowd, most people would disapprove and look badly upon you
If you were to insult someone who is publicly standing on a soap box and trying to get a response from a crowd, most people wouldn't think twice about it. The platform and intent of the victim is an important aspect of determining whether criticism has become harassment

Unfortunately, the state of public discourse is seemingly that everyone DESERVES a venue to express themselves, that it is a right and any focus put on the victim is unjust. Although harassment is indeed something to be discouraged, no one thinks to educate users on /what it means/ to voice a public opinion, what it means to put your sociopolitical stance on permanent record, and the fact that it is a CHOICE they are making to allow people to trace their record to their front door. And yet when people criticize they are universally told they are COWARDLY for not doing the same.

>> No.9100547

>>9093846
I like you

>> No.9100548

4 C H A E S T H E T I C S

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>>9093696
If people on this website can say whats going to happen in the future

Does that make them

4chan tellers

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>>9100689

>> No.9100799

>>9100689
i hate you

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>>9100689

>> No.9100805

>>9100689
It took me too long to get this

>> No.9100809

>>9100689
put me in screencap

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>> No.9100861

>>9099063

girardfag is repetitive and overly wordy and he keeps shitting up the Bannon threads

>> No.9100898

Does this mean that the Western world is about to experience an upswing in religious devotion? Because that's been happening on 4chan for a while.

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>>9100689

>> No.9100924

>>9100898
At the very least we're going to see more blowback against the atheist ideology of Dawkins and etc. Not sure if it will translate into significant increases in traditional religiosity, but it will ultimately align with the ethos of 4chan's religious bent.

>> No.9100940

>>9100924
But /pol/'s DEUS FUCKING VULT-tier Christianity is shit.

>> No.9100963

>>9100940
As a Christian, I don't mind it IF it eventually leads some of them to a true relationship with Christ. As I've said before, if even one /pol/tard starts on the way of the cross from their LARPing, it will all have been worth it.

>> No.9100973

Let's get some lit suggestions going regarding articles and books about technology and culture. I seriously want to study the subjects with 4chan as a background for research.

>> No.9100995

>>9100940
Maybe I'm wrong but I always interpreted that zeal as being ironic, and more of a reaction against atheism and/or other religions deemed competitors for cultural supremacy (Islam and Judaism) than a legitimate embrace of Christianity.

>> No.9100997

>>9100995
Well done you understood the point of my post.

>> No.9101001

>>9100997
Although in fairness /pol/'s obsession with the aesthetic of Christianity is no worse than /lit/'s similar aesthetic obsession (everyone wants to embrace Kierkegaard, Dostoevsky and Tolstoi -- not God).

>> No.9101024

>>9100997
Ah, okay then.

I just mean to challenge the notion that there is a genuine "upswing in religious devotion" here, and that while broader culture likely will follow our newfound approach to religion, it would be a mistake to assume that translates into more baptisms and higher church attendance.

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9101374

So what you're saying is, 4chan is too timely, too plebeian, for an Overman to enjoy it?

>Everyone I have ever known and looked up to has degenerated. And everyone in the news sounds like a pygmy — a one-trick pony at best. I search in vain the planet for a man I can respect. In the absence of any living man I can look up to, I am left with great men from the past — and of the future. And the only link between them is, inevitably, myself.

>4chan is without a doubt the worst website in the history of the internet. I have never seen such an agglomeration of stupidity and wretchedness anywhere else, nor would have imagined that so much ugliness — mental, and no doubt also physical — could be possible in this world if I had never come across it. And they are all fully aware of this, which is why they prefer to remain anonymous, and almost immediately trash everything that they write, since they know it's rubbish. We are talking about individuals so weak and fearful that even the nicknames used by forum users feel too restrictive and oppressive to them. Individuals so slow and incoherent that they don't want others to be able to connect even as much as two of their posts together and hold them accountable for some measure of logic between them. This is the true bottom of the barrel of (sub)humanity. And that's why I keep an eye on it from time to time. You couldn't even meet such idiots in the street, since people in the street possess at least the minimum amount of strength required to leave their rooms and walk around. So if my site is the greatest site that exists and that will ever be made (and it is), 4chan is the lowest one, and will remain so for as long as it remains the internet's bastion for all those who are attracted by anonymity (which is to say for nobodies).

>> No.9101405

>>9101374
Second greentext was posted by a TVTropes blogger.

>> No.9101411

>>9101405
source?

It was first posted today elsewhere, not TVTropes.

>> No.9101469

>>9101411
Not true it was created as a thread a few days ago and each sentence was BTFO by an anon :^D

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>>9101405
Give me his name. I wanna kick his ass!

>> No.9101544

>>9101469
source?

>> No.9101560

>>9100689
Reminding my self when I read this in the screencap to get a fucking life.

>> No.9101827

>>9093846
good post, but sad

.>>9095107
lmao!

>> No.9101839

>>9096743
>sam
>successful in any way shape or form
lol

>> No.9101873

>>9100689
Jesus christ

>> No.9101902

>>9101560
Sorry friend, I've already made the screencap and seeing as it's already got lots of karma on Reddit...well, I don't think you'll be in any more ;)

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>>9093696

for your next posting

>> No.9102006

>>9101980
the original is better you doofus.
>muh proper contrast
go back to /p/ you autist, you don't understand a e s t h e t i c s

>> No.9102179

>>9101980
too much contrast

>> No.9102229

>>9099055
That's not true. Of course there's always all kinds of people with conflicting opinions posting here, but there most definitely is something like a general vibe which is usually pretty easy so notice.