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I want to create a heart wrenching, monumental, human, story filled with drama and characters with opposing philosophies that gets adapted into a movie with beautiful visuals and music. However, I am still in the first chapter world building and describing a fucking tree.

>> No.23298188

>>23298177
Do not despair frog, world building and trees are fine but you have other major priorities to tackle. Maybe take a break and read some Greek playwrights, they condensed a considerable amount of thought provoking material into short and direct pieces.

>> No.23298202

>>23298177
>heart wrenching,
>human, story filled with drama
>characters with opposing philosophies
>adapted into a movie
>beautiful visuals and music.
I hate all that. I will not pay money to watch your movie, I won't even pirate it.

>> No.23298223

>>23298177
To describe a tree convincingly, you have to be a tree. Go outside. Be a tree.

>> No.23298463

>>23298177
>that gets adapted into a movie

NGMI

>> No.23298563

That's your problem, anon, you want to make a story with X, about Y, rather than wanting to make a story that's good

>> No.23298568

Reading a novel is so easy, right? But writing one is quite the task.

>> No.23298740

>>23298177
>world building
This is garbage for retards who are bad at writing. This is stupid cope for scifi schlock and fantasy retards.
>but d0oD the EPIC LORE THE WORLD BUILDING
Tolkien did none of that shit. He told a story. The world existed around it, the story existed within it. The autistic levels of world building were done separately, nobody breathing will match what he did either. I hate you fucking world building faggots so much. Writing and "lore" are not the same thing and if it's your focus, you're better off managing a wiki for someone else's series. You consumed too many video games or comic books or whatever else. You are not a writer. You are obsessed with minutiae, trivia, epic references, and spin-off media. Pack it up.

>> No.23298783

>>23298177
Yeah this happens because you haven't discovered the story yet. So you focus on things that are not the story, like it's decorative elements; but these are empty and vain unless they do something dramatically significant. The tree, for instance, should only be there if it contributes to the story. The entire point of the creative process is to discover the story. Only after that can you actually sit down and write it out.

This might seem pedantic or dogmatic, but it needs to be stressed. Nothing matters in literature but creating and sustaining dramatic interest.

>> No.23298807

>>23298177
>However, I am still in the first chapter world building and describing a fucking tree.

Hubert Selby:
In Last Exit, I was struggling so hard to learn how to write. Oh, God, I can’t describe to you the pain and torture: every night, for six years. In Last Exit, I had learned how to write. Because I learned how to put down a simple line–that is so simple, and so obvious, and that, hopefully, contains a certain degree of profundity.

And so I came home every night and wrote and wrote. And I went through reams and reams of paper. Like this one part of “Last Exit [to Brooklyn]”—“Tralala”— it’s about 20 pages long, it took me two and a half years. I just sat and wrote over and over and over. Throw it away, write it again. And I got so involved with the people that I created, that when I finished the piece of work I’d be in bed for a week or two. I’d conk out at the typewriter. You know, I...just totally obsessed with doing something with my life.

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>>23298740
this post should be a sticky