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/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General Anonymous Sat Aug 19 02:10:49 2023 No.22394313 [Reply] [Original]

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>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 02:14:35 2023 No.22394328 File: 110 KB, 621x494, Erikson and Esslemont.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22394313 I only trust fantasy in the hands of writers who can camp and live in the wild without the comforts of modern society. Good thing Malazan is safe!

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 02:30:16 2023 No.22394385 Is contemporary fantasy forgetting its classical roots?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 02:31:08 2023 No.22394389 >>22394385 >forgetting More like intentionally raping and subverting its classical roots.

Anonymous Sat Aug 19 02:38:23 2023 No.22394405
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>>22394389
>raping
How? That language seems strong and implies a sort of intent bordering on resentment or hatred. It’s just a literary genre and it’s going to change or develop.
>subverting
Maybe if we weren’t sold the same types of group of goody heroes go on adventure to battle evil, over and over, without any changes to tropes. Even the mystical races or monsters, or even magical elements, stay the same.

Anonymous Sat Aug 19 03:07:55 2023 No.22394475

>>22394405
>That language seems strong and implies a sort of intent bordering on resentment or hatred.
>lol who the fuck is Moorcock and why does he hate Tolkien?
>Maybe if we weren’t sold the same types of group of goody heroes go on adventure to battle evil, over and over, without any changes to tropes.
lol what fucking decade are you living in? Grimderp has been the norm for decades now and it has ALWAYS been about subversion.

Anonymous Sat Aug 19 03:16:53 2023 No.22394498
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>>22394475
>Grimderp has been the norm for decades now and it has ALWAYS been about subversion.
You sound not too dissimilar from “hopebright” Tumblr feminists who think GRRM and Robin Hood are patriarchal or otherwise in poor taste for featuring sexual violence or sexism, which historically happened in medieval Europe (the backdrop for a lot of Fantasy, except with added magical elements). Not even Christian priests in the Middle Ages nor Thomas Malory write like Tolkien, even if Tolkien obviously dealt with Arthurian texts. Tolkien is the genesis of “hopepunk” mollycoddling, which is outlined in pic related. It’s just unrealistic and basically lying about chivalry or what knights were like.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 03:24:06 2023 No.22394510 >>22394498 >“hopebright” >“hopepunk” Talk like a real person, please.

Anonymous Sat Aug 19 03:30:30 2023 No.22394525
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Just finished my latest project. If anyone needs a cheap editor, shoot me a message saying you're from /lit/ so I can give you a discount

https://www.fiverr.com/matthewg42

Anonymous Sat Aug 19 03:31:37 2023 No.22394530
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>>22394510
Most rejections of grimdark are embedded in some sort of moralism or insistence that every character be cast from the moulds of some (probably superficial) archetypes of Good versus Evil.
People want to be inspired to be heroes and heroines in this world, but they’ll likely never be those heroes nor heroines. Every dictator thought they were benevolent.
https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2018/12/27/18137571/what-is-hopepunk-noblebright-grimdark

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 03:33:36 2023 No.22394536 >>22394525 Do you have an email if I have a larger work? Fiverr takes a cut from you and it’d feel shitty of me to make you wait for a payment that gets a sum taken out for processing that shitty website.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 03:42:28 2023 No.22394558 >>22394498 can you not talk like an ultrafaggot holy shit

Anonymous Sat Aug 19 03:58:01 2023 No.22394595

>>22394405
lmfao how is this subversive faggot Meiville talking about Tolkien's elves and orcs cliches when he introduced the most fully generic DND party into his Perdidio Street Station lmao
>boys-own-adventure glorying in war
20 IQ communist thinks Tolkien glorifies war and has never read the books

and ofcourse he's throating that other subversive Jew Moorcock, these ppl love to suck each other off and get buttmad about God fearing ppl all their life. Moorcock malded so hard over this he wrote an entire novel where he made Mary into a whore and turned Jesus into some deformed mutant.

They will never be as big as Tolkien and you cannot imagine how much this rankles them. The seethe he makes them go thru is very satisfying to watch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 03:59:38 2023 No.22394602 File: 121 KB, 720x245, Read Cook.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22394558 Fine. Grimdark = Based and Redpilled Anti-Grimdark = Cringe and Bluepilled

Anonymous Sat Aug 19 04:05:34 2023 No.22394627

>>22394595
>when he introduced the most fully generic DND party into his Perdidio Street Station lmao
He’s moved out from the reliance on TTRPGs as the backend for his creativity, but I think it’s a valid enough criticism to point out how cliche he can be. I do have gripes with Mieville myself, particularly when he’s doing a send up or reworking of Lovecraft that overly relies on the worst pop culture stereotyping of Call of Cthulhu.
>Moorcock
I don’t think Moorcock’s gripes were entirely about religion. He just felt Fellowship was undeserving of its high praise and practical adoption as THE fantasy prototype despite not even being the best book in the year it was published. The Broken Sword was, whilst having better execution and an amazing plot, and less bloat.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 04:35:15 2023 No.22394705 File: 1.38 MB, 2359x1749, 1690768927793540.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22394536 I need everything to go through fiverr for tax reasons. The price is usually $500 per 100k words, but everything is negotiable

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Anonymous Sat Aug 19 04:56:29 2023 No.22394744
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To the anon who posted this
>Worth the Candle by Alex Wales - 8/10
I trusted your review but isn't this haremshit? I mean I don't mind harem series but the series turned out to be quite different from what I was expecting.

Anonymous Sat Aug 19 04:58:45 2023 No.22394749

Does anyone know the name of a science fiction short story about a coward who has a bomb put in his heart by the military as they evacuate a planet, then he goes to earth and holds it to ransom to take revenge for being wronged. I think it was a classic 50s, 60s type one so maybe Asimov, Bradbury, Heinlein?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 05:02:27 2023 No.22394758 File: 936 KB, 1125x1836, Autistic.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22394707

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 06:17:36 2023 No.22394906 >>22394749 Is it stainless steel rat

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 06:21:22 2023 No.22394916 >>22394385 Can't forget what you never learned.

Anonymous Sat Aug 19 08:21:17 2023 No.22395161
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>>22394744
>I trusted your review but isn't this haremshit? I mean I don't mind harem series but the series turned out to be quite different from what I was expecting.
WtC is in big part a deconstruction of this part of writing-sphere, so it toys a lot with the idea of harem, but the approach is analytical. Just see the characters reactions and conversations and you will realize it's not being a 'harem' at all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 08:45:03 2023 No.22395204 >>22394744 >trusting someone who once gave Cradle a whopping 9, then only reduced it to a mere 8 Slobs on the knob of anything popular like anybody else ITT.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 09:33:06 2023 No.22395286 >>22395161 Retarded

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 09:37:48 2023 No.22395290 Is it true Bakker is going to publish another 2 books in The Second Apocalypse?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 09:49:53 2023 No.22395308 >>22394313 Any nice recommendations on life affirming fantasy? Doesn’t have to be long or shy away from sadness

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 10:26:27 2023 No.22395351 >>22395308 >Life affirming That’s more of a manga trope, in my opinion. Berserk has it almost ad nauseam. It might be good to look into Japanese fiction.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 11:09:52 2023 No.22395412 >>22395161 >a deconstruction >toys a lot with the idea of harem >analytical He wants to write a harem but is too self conscious about it. So we get navel gazing instead of sex. People who write fun slop should be willing to have fun at least.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 11:11:56 2023 No.22395415 File: 46 KB, 622x439, 1662504858252932.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22395308 piranesi

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 11:40:28 2023 No.22395468 >>22394385 fantasy is drawn more from folklore and historical myth than the classics but since America doesn't have any history you lot get confused and think everything should be referencing back to foundational texts

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 12:00:55 2023 No.22395514 File: 44 KB, 554x728, 1692405026475222.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22394313 I'm reading old forgotten realms novels again thanks to BG3. Life is good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 12:01:27 2023 No.22395516 File: 135 KB, 521x682, litrpg menace.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] .

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 12:07:21 2023 No.22395531 File: 138 KB, 612x792, jason-deem-5-intrinsicgate-l.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22395290 Maybe. His brother seems to think he will return to the setting. We can only hope.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 12:28:14 2023 No.22395580 >>22395516 it's a shame super supportive is actually good because I thought the genre was gonna die off a bit

None !SFFG.n1h7M Sat Aug 19 12:50:15 2023 No.22395630
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>>22394313
Falling Bodies, The Far Reaches - Rebecca Roanhorse (2023)
This novelette is harmful and misguided. It's a hopelessly self-destructive allegory. The conclusion is abhorrent and irresponsible. It's one of the worst works of short fiction in terms of my personal enjoyment I've ever finished. The story is written well enough, it's simply that I entirely disagree with everything about it. Usually that wouldn't be an issue, but in this case I found it be unbearably frustrating and upsetting. If I had a physical copy I would've been tempted to throw it. You'll have to read what others have written about it if you want to know more because I'm uninterested in writing anything else about it. This is about as futile as it comes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 12:59:39 2023 No.22395656 >>22395516 It's a site for litRPG. You might as well go to fanfiction.net and talk about the fan fic menace.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 13:13:56 2023 No.22395704 >>22395531 >mentioned a few times over the books >picks up a magic sword from a random sranc >jobs to a dragon in a comical fashion >this doesn't go on to matter in any way unironically what was the fucking point of this whole arc

Anonymous Sat Aug 19 13:36:38 2023 No.22395782

being a feminist writer seems pretty easy tbqh
>take an old ass book or collection of myths
>make every character female or feminine
>turn a couple of them gay or trans
>don't actually change the original plot except by throwing in a few more sex scenes or a few hints of grimness
>get rave reviews on goodreads and other sites

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 13:40:03 2023 No.22395793 >>22395782 recruit difficulty even in the arts, I suppose the men are to blame for educating the hoes in the first place

Anonymous Sat Aug 19 14:20:32 2023 No.22395905
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12 Miles Below

https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/42367/12-miles-below

The world is in ruins.

Extreme sub-zero temperatures suffocate the surface, making even simple survival an ordeal. Frozen derelicts of bygone eras span across massive ice wastes. And the survivors closely guard any technology rediscovered within.

The only escape from the deadly climate is beneath the surface. But it’s another disaster underground. Monstrous machines lurk in the depths. Unhinged demigods war against them, dying over and over, treating it all like a game. The land itself shifts over time, more contraption than rock. And an ominous prophecy states that the key to everything waits on four heroes - but nobody knows who or where they are.

When an expedition into the far uncharted north goes terribly wrong, Keith Winterscar and his father get trapped together in a desperate fight for survival. Stumbling upon an ancient war of titanic scale; the two will need to set their differences aside while they struggle against Gods, legends, and the grand secrets of the realm that lies below.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 15:29:54 2023 No.22396220 >>22395782 Worked for madeline miller

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 15:46:47 2023 No.22396301 >>22396220 yeah no shit it seems to be working for a fuckton of people considering goodreads just advertised me a fuckin' Water Margin But Feminist And Queer

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 16:32:36 2023 No.22396426 >>22395630 your """reviews""" are SHIT FUCK OFF

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 17:27:49 2023 No.22396630 >>22395704 To subvert your expectations, anon. Were they not subverted? Also probably to pad out the novel; which would explain why it was so boring.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 17:53:33 2023 No.22396704 >>22396630 It's boring because Bakker wrote it, not because it was long.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 17:55:57 2023 No.22396709 >>22396704 But if you consider Bakker a boring writer then a novel he wrote that is long WOULD be more boring.

Anonymous Sat Aug 19 18:09:00 2023 No.22396749

>>22395704
Calling it an arc is a bit generous. Hes a boots-on-the-ground pov that is mentioned for less than a page in book 5 and then only a couple in book 6. Probably he was only put there to show one archetype of the ordealmen (the naive, young, and ultimately un-heroic kind). Its probably also Bakker poking fun at the idea that someone picking up a magic sword makes them a hero. Its still only a piece of metal that can cut a bit better.

Anonymous Sat Aug 19 19:49:35 2023 No.22397113

>>22395782
Not subversive enough to get nominated for a Hugo. You have to make the feminized protagonist violently reject established gender norms through self mutilation or by killing some hapless stand-in for the patriarchy and then have her ascend to literal godhood at the same moment she casts aside her feminine role just to lose any semblance of subtlety.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 20:29:23 2023 No.22397274 >>22395516 now do scribblehub

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 20:55:10 2023 No.22397354 >>22397113 Oh you, don't make it so complicated. All it takes is nepotism and favoritism.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 23:34:02 2023 No.22397896 File: 79 KB, 474x515, 1692488032339.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >the bbw that keeps taking control of Sekenre's body Schweitzerbros...

Anonymous Sat Aug 19 23:43:08 2023 No.22397933
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/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read Reverend Insanity, Lord of The Mysteries, Neuromancer, Hyperion, The Prince of Nothing

Also read The Wandering Inn, Between Two Fires, Mother of Learning, Cradle, I Shall Seal the Heavens, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Poppy War.

Anonymous Sat Aug 19 23:44:57 2023 No.22397942
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/SFFG/ Recommendations: LITRPG Edition

Read Azarinth Healer, Primal Hunter, He Who Fights with Monsters, Dungeon Crawler Carl

Also read System Universe, Dissonance, Defiance of the Fall, Iron Prince.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 19 23:55:49 2023 No.22397980 >>22397942 What's the actual joke here? Because they're not great but in a middle of the road kind of way, it's not like you're recommending people bad stuff as a joke or good stuff earnestly

Anonymous Sun Aug 20 00:04:35 2023 No.22398004
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This is complete dogshit. This man is the most annoying writer to ever live and all his fans are gay retards.

I gave it a couple hours, thinking it might get better, but it got worse. Fuck this book.

Anonymous Sun Aug 20 00:04:36 2023 No.22398005

>>22397980
It's a threadly ritualpost. Its only meaning is for them to have posted it, which they've done consistently since February. That's six months now. A few have been going for years.
>>/lit/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=sffg+%22also+read%22

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 00:05:42 2023 No.22398008 >>22398004 You just got pringled!

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 00:14:27 2023 No.22398027 >>22398004 Poor taste

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 00:14:50 2023 No.22398028 >>22398005 He was doing it beforehand but not in an official way; this is his proclamation of being an eternally butthurt ESL underageb&.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 00:17:45 2023 No.22398034 File: 83 KB, 234x392, Dhalgren-bantam-cover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Once again I am disappointed by a book I randomly picked up. Hopefully pic related is decent, I've seen it recommended a couple of times.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 00:20:28 2023 No.22398041 Some authors try way to hard to be flowery with they're language lol like wtf are you on about you idiot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 00:25:24 2023 No.22398051 >>22398028 >ESL underage how many times you gonna call me that? lmao

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 00:27:03 2023 No.22398054 File: 85 KB, 1200x913, Screenshot_143.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22398005 >>22398028 >>22398051 KEK HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 00:27:22 2023 No.22398055 File: 271 KB, 1162x261, girls love and gender bender menace.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22397274

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 00:28:23 2023 No.22398060 >>22398008 I wish my penis were the size of a Pringles can.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 00:30:25 2023 No.22398064 File: 22 KB, 443x332, fe5a489627b1164c19a9e48402f69f94b8ff5f6f_00.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22398054 >''makes a lot of sense for why the quality of the thread is gargabe.'' >Proceeds to call him ESL for 6 months straight

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 00:36:53 2023 No.22398086 >>22398004 >I gave it a couple hours what does this mean? how many chapters did you read?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 00:38:34 2023 No.22398094 >>22398004 FILTERED I L T E R E D

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 00:42:46 2023 No.22398112 >>22394602 Reverse moralfagging is just moralfagging in reverse.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 00:43:38 2023 No.22398117 >>22398008 >>22398027 >>22398086 >>22398094 I read 10 chapters. He was about to become a journeyman in the guild and that's about all I understood thanks to Gene Wolfe having aspergers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 00:50:13 2023 No.22398137 >>22398117 In addition to the structure of the book being shit, it's just a depressing and uninteresting world.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 01:16:56 2023 No.22398203 File: 114 KB, 830x589, 1679870667450250.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22398004 >>22398117 Now imagine what would happen if you tried reading actual literature.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 01:25:35 2023 No.22398224 I hate romance so much its unreal

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 01:27:14 2023 No.22398226 >>22398224 I hate women yet still masturbate to them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 01:27:45 2023 No.22398229 Are there any fantasy novels with incestuous romance portrayed positively or at least neutrally?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 01:28:24 2023 No.22398233 >>22398117 I am about where you are and I am loving it. Sevarian's relationship with Thelca is my favorite part so far, although I know Sevarian is about to be exiled soon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 01:30:06 2023 No.22398241 >>22398233 I'll keep reading for a bit in that case. Maybe it'll become more interesting with that development.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 01:35:57 2023 No.22398265 >>22398241 It could get more interesting (I haven't gotten that far yet), but if you aren't enjoying don't force yourself to keep going. If you are nearly 100 pages in and don't like it, I think it is fair to give up.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 01:39:45 2023 No.22398275 >>22398229 Fire & Blood - George R.R. Martin

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 01:45:42 2023 No.22398298 >>22398265 I only sat down to read it once. I will give it another ten chapters perhaps.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 01:45:46 2023 No.22398299 >>22398226 I don't hate women, I just think I'm not mentally sane enough to tolerate dating one

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 01:53:09 2023 No.22398317 >>22398299 Are you mentally sane enough to have any kind of stable relationship?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 01:58:18 2023 No.22398330 File: 133 KB, 651x1000, 81LDaPQcfqL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Jesus fuck it's been a while since I've been this badly unable to put down a book

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 03:17:30 2023 No.22398544 >>22394498 >le fiction is le unrealistic no shit sherlock If I wanna see reality I'll pic a biography, a history or science book or even the news, ever heard of something called "escapism"?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 03:17:46 2023 No.22398545 File: 230 KB, 586x600, 1673883732252.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22394744 It was all fiction and the the antagonist is the author what a trash story

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 03:33:08 2023 No.22398577 >>22397896 based mask of the sorcerer enjoyer

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 03:34:08 2023 No.22398581 >>22398137 >>22398117 damn. How can someone have such shit taste? Female?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 03:37:09 2023 No.22398593 >>22398330 Might want to call for help as you have some version of Shit Taste Lockjaw

Anonymous Sun Aug 20 04:39:27 2023 No.22398761
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>>22398577
The College of Shadows might be one of my favourite chapters in any fantasy book I have ever read. The wistful, nightmarish quality of the endless hallways reminded me of a more surreal and hellish version of Gormenghast Castle. The finale where Sekenre murders the Devourer of Birds, managing to graduate was absolute fucking kino. This novel is seriously good. I'm on the second last chapter now.

Anonymous Sun Aug 20 04:52:41 2023 No.22398786

>>22398761
yes! I agree so much, it's crazy those chapters just come and go and how each feels like a self contained story on its own.You can message Schweitzer on ebay when you buy his books directly from him and I have told him basically the same thing you did. I think he writes such good self-contained chapters because he is traditionally a short story author. Check those out as well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 04:53:00 2023 No.22398788 >>22398593 >thing bad Thanks for the highbrow perspective mr big brain

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 05:05:09 2023 No.22398819 >>22395514 Which are the best?

Anonymous Sun Aug 20 05:08:13 2023 No.22398827

>>22398786
>purchasing the books directly from him
I own paperbacks of The Shattered Goddess (which I've yet to read), and The Mask of the Sorcerer. I will likely purchase the Sekenre short story collection after I've read TSG, maybe the Lovecraft short stories he did also. Is his non-fiction worth reading? I've heard good things about the biography he did on Lord Dunsany.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 05:09:14 2023 No.22398830 Three Body fucking sucked dick. Dropping this shit like hot potato when I see ANOTHER Red Coast flashback like holy shit I DON'T FUCKING CARE 2/10 because the VR game part is actually pretty kino

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 05:13:41 2023 No.22398842 >>22398830 >I don't care about the initiating event of the entire trilogy uh okay

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 05:16:08 2023 No.22398848 >>22397933 any of these others like between two fires? i loved that. i don't know how to find more since any mention of horror in fantasy apparently brings out all the female authors and you know i'm not reading any of that dogshit

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 05:19:43 2023 No.22398857 >>22398842 geez idk man maybe it should've been better written like being not so fucking boring

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 05:20:17 2023 No.22398859 I just finished a book I started reading today. How based is that?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 05:21:16 2023 No.22398863 >>22398859 congrats nerd

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 05:22:16 2023 No.22398867 >>22398863 Thanks, fren

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 07:43:04 2023 No.22399205 File: 2.06 MB, 1280x720, f0c.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Post Industrial Revolution fantasy SUCKS!

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 08:48:14 2023 No.22399318 >>22399205 I wholeheartedly agree with this

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 09:11:57 2023 No.22399365 >>22398137 So it is a you problem. Go read something optimistic then wuss.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 09:16:54 2023 No.22399378 >>22398848 >>22397933 Is The Wandering Inn worth reading? It's also written by a female author, why is it so ridiculously long for a slice of life horror fantasy series though?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 09:25:25 2023 No.22399405 >>22399378 It's written by a man. It's a big soap opera with in a fantasy setting. Some people get wrapped up in it.

Anonymous Sun Aug 20 09:31:48 2023 No.22399424

>>22398330
Its a marvelous revival of what I used to find common in science fiction: the prose and characters can go to hell, the situation and ideas hold me fast, sometimes making me skip a paragraph in my frantic push forward to resolve the tension of the wellwrought plot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 09:34:04 2023 No.22399429 >>22399424 >the prose and characters can go to hell That attitude is what caused SF to essentially wither on the vine as a genre in the first place. Only turbo autists want stories like that.

Anonymous Sun Aug 20 09:36:10 2023 No.22399440

>>22399405
>It's written by a man.
Source? In a sffg thread a few months back there was review saying that the series seemed to be lacking strong male characters, there were even a couple of male characters wanting to become females or something similar
>It's a big soap opera
Who are the target audience for this?

Anonymous Sun Aug 20 09:38:32 2023 No.22399450

>>22394405
I like how all of this ranting against Tolkien essentially just boils down to:
>He wasn't progressive enough!
With a bunch of made up nonsense and delusional reading in between, like Tolkien being "afraid" of women because he doesn't write women as being manipulative, cruel, and you know, scary

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 09:38:34 2023 No.22399451 >>22399440 >Source? He wrote a comic and outed himself >Who are the target audience for this? Bronies

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 09:39:34 2023 No.22399455 >>22399451 >He wrote a comic and outed himself Name please.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 09:40:49 2023 No.22399459 >>22398544 "Escapism" is "destructive" to these people. Not that they care about your well being.

Anonymous Sun Aug 20 09:44:48 2023 No.22399466

>>22394530
I like how Aristotle definitely would consider grimdark to be shit.
>Every dictator thought they were benevolent.
Some were, many were benign. What's your point? This isn't saying anything. Tell me. Do you think that evil is real? That some things are simply unforgivable?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 09:51:58 2023 No.22399481 Works with AI generated covers are cheap-looking and make me avoid them. It shows a lack of passion

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 09:55:42 2023 No.22399486 >>22399481 >Works with AI generated covers Good AI generated covers are the ones that have no noticeable differences from real ones even when you examine closely. Just go to /g/ threads.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 09:59:14 2023 No.22399492 >>22399481 >caring about covers bruh

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 10:14:38 2023 No.22399524 >>22399492 Provide a novel where the adage Don't judge a book by its cover is proven false.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 11:08:27 2023 No.22399644 Post 5 star fantasy written after 1989. I'll start: >The Mask of the Sorcerer

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 11:34:53 2023 No.22399688 File: 16 KB, 300x400, images.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22399524 Early lotm cover

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 11:36:52 2023 No.22399695 File: 35 KB, 258x372, Alienist-thumb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22399524

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 11:39:39 2023 No.22399701 >>22399688 >Early lotm cover Exactly, early lotm is complete trash, 200 boring chapters in fact.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 12:13:23 2023 No.22399792 >>22399644 >Post 5 star fantasy written after 1989. I’ll endorse The Covenant of Steel trilogy by Anthony Ryan, and I’d consider it a significant improvement to the Raven’s Shadow series.

Anonymous Sun Aug 20 12:23:13 2023 No.22399810
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>>22399440
>Source? In a sffg thread a few months back there was review saying that the series seemed to be lacking strong male characters
TWI has strong male characters, but by and large it tends towards female ones - with them often being masculine in many ways. It's just a typical ffetishization of feminity by this generation's male liberal writers. Except for prevalence of female characters there is little difference between older fiction, just slight weirdness of the entire affair.

The author is absolutely a man. The attitude, writing style and topics tackled are the typical male fantasy stuff, just through a perspective of a liberal male writer. The author admited to being strongly influenced by older fantasy classics like Kushiel's Dart or The Wheel of Time. These influences have been combined with the current progressive ideologies, which make the story almost schizpohrenic at times, but incredeibly compelling.

>there were even a couple of male characters wanting to become females or something similar.
There is something that can be called a 'trans plotline' about one specific person, but it's the most vanilla, easily digestible shit you'd imagine. No pronouns weirdness or strange gender ideas, it's downright gender essentialist. The author is a liberal, but the kind you'd see ~10-15 years ago. Also, even though I'm sceptical to shit like that, I've found myself liking that plotline a lot, mostly due to how well-written the character is, so that's that.

>>22399440
>>It's a big soap opera
>Who are the target audience for this?
To be fair I know little about soap operas, but as I read the definition it doesn't strike me as The Wandering Inn at all. All webnovels tend to be stretched, but TWI is actually more substantial than a lot of them. It has big focus on characters, larger-than-life events and epic storytelling. The target demographic is just your typical fantasy reader (male, as women are not that much interested in TWI, as proven by 10% female reader base).

>>22399455
>Name please.
The Last Tide, written by Noah 'Pirateaba' James.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 12:30:09 2023 No.22399822 >>22399810 >The attitude, writing style and topics tackled are the typical male fantasy stuff That being?

Anonymous Sun Aug 20 12:42:12 2023 No.22399855
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>>22398819
Reposted from another thread
if there's a book that's not listed is because i haven't read it yet and obviously you should read the Drizzt series even, there's a 6-7 books slog but then it goes back to being good with Companion's Codex
>Trilogies/Series:
>Kino
Moonshaes Trilogy
The Finder's Stone Trilogy
Cleric Quintet
Song & Swords
Starlight & Shadows
Counselors & Kings
Druidhome trilogy (sequel to Moonshaes)
Prince of Lies and Crucible: The Trial of Cyric the Mad (sequel to the Avatar trilogy)
Twilight Giants trilogy
The Threat from the Sea (and the Realms of the Deep anthology which is set between 2 and 3)
Erevis Cale Trilogy (sequel to shadow witness)
War of the Spider Queen
Year of Rogue Dragons
The Last Mythal (milf succubus antagonist)
The Twilight War
The Empyrean Odyssey
Blades of the Moonsea
Abolethic Sovereignty (Cosmic horror fantasy)
Chosen of Nendawen (set a hundred years after Frostfell)
Unbroken Chain
Sword of the Gods
Brimstone Angels

>Good
The Empires trilogy
The Avatar Trilogy
Shadow of the Avatar trilogy (spinoff written 6 years after the original avatar trilogy this one is set during the events of tthe original trilogy)
Cormyr Trilogy
Sembia: Gateway to the Realms
Return of the Archwizards
Scions of Arrabar
House of Serpents
Watercourse Trilogy
The Lady Penitent (sequel to war of the spider queen)
The Haunted Lands
Shadowbane
The Sundering
Brotherhood of the Griffon (spinoff series about some characters from the Haunted Lands trilogy)

>Kino Standalone
Masquerades (spinoff sequel of the Finder's Stone trilogy)
Cormyr: A Novel (the book sold well so it was expanded into a trilogy but the first book is standalone.)
Night Parade
Stormlight
The Simbul's Gift
Evermeet: Island of Elves
Thornhold
The Shadow Stone
Halls of Stormweather
The Nether Scroll
Shadow Witness
City of Ravens
The Jewel of Turmish (quarterstaff wielding druid mc!)
Lady of Poison
Queen of the Depths
Son of Thunder
Bladesinger
Frostfell
Dawnbringer

>Good Standalone
The Lost Library of Cormanthyr
The Glass Prison
The Black Bouquet
The Crimson Gold
The City of Splendors
Master of Chains
Ghostwalker
Bloodwalk
Darkvision and Stardeep
The God Catcher
Sandstorm
The Gilded Rune

>Fun books (fun? fun!)
King Pinch
Crypt of the Shadowking and Curse of the Shadowmage
War in Tethyr (Orc Paladin!)
The Pools trilogy
The Netheril Trilogy
The Council of Blades
Temple Hill
Crypt of the Moaning Diamond
The Citadels series (four stand alone books)
Mistshore
i highly recommend that if you find an author you enjoy you should read their non-D&D books.
>>22395308
Thomas Covenant
Song of Albion
Fionavar
Most of Valdemar
Realm of the Elderlings (specifically Liveships, Tawny Man and Rainwild)
The Bridge of D'Arnath and Rai-Kirah
>>22398229
The mainchar from Dancers at the End of Time is in an incestuous romance with his mother.
Also everything Heinlein

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 12:42:21 2023 No.22399856 >>22399792 is it pozzed? I already got burned by ravens shadow, not going through that again

Anonymous Sun Aug 20 12:43:36 2023 No.22399860
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>>22399822
You read fantasy by men and women and you know it. Male fantasy trends toward abstract concepts, reaching a grand goal or just trying to make a living. Female fantasy is vastly more focused on relationships, characters, exploration of relations between people, more poetic language and not as much interested in things themselves. Men tend to romanticize achieving transcendence or adhering to certain ideals, while women focus on people creating communities, achieving deep relations with each other and in general look down on more 'abstract' motivations.

Those are not hard rules, obviously, but The Wandering Inn writings and themes *scream* that the writer is a male. Either it's a man, or the most masculine-minded woman writer on the internet.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 12:45:12 2023 No.22399862 >>22399405 >It's a big soap opera This a fitting description.

Anonymous Sun Aug 20 12:46:19 2023 No.22399866

>>22399855
>Reposted from another thread
>if there's a book that's not listed is because i haven't read it yet and obviously you should read the Drizzt series even, there's a 6-7 books slog but then it goes back to being good with Companion's Codex

>>22398819
Anon, if someone recommends you reading Drizzt series you should endeavour to ignore everything he says. Salvatore is an absolute hack and the Drizzt series dealt a large amount of damage to my young self, even as a 15 year old boy I genuinely hated everything about it. Edgy writing, lack of good story, bullshit events...I hate a strong distatste towards the Forgotten Realms to this day solely based on that horrible experience.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 13:43:19 2023 No.22400034 >>22399860 Most compelling argument for the author being a man has been the videogames they've streamed and that they mention in their notes like Warhammer and shit desu

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 14:49:16 2023 No.22400252 Any good haremkino with incest? I'm so horny rn

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 15:17:53 2023 No.22400347 >>22400252 you could just have a wank and then read something decent

Anonymous Sun Aug 20 15:24:23 2023 No.22400365

>>22399860
>You read fantasy by men and women and you know it. Male fantasy trends toward abstract concepts, reaching a grand goal or just trying to make a living. Female fantasy is vastly more focused on relationships, characters, exploration of relations between people, more poetic language and not as much interested in things themselves. Men tend to romanticize achieving transcendence or adhering to certain ideals, while women focus on people creating communities, achieving deep relations with each other and in general look down on more 'abstract' motivations.
So basically you're saying that foid fantasy is trash and I am correct to skip out on anything written by a foid.

None !SFFG.n1h7M Sun Aug 20 15:44:07 2023 No.22400420
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>>22394313
The Long Game, The Far Reaches - Ann Leckie (2023)
Humans have found intelligent life in the form of small slug-like people on another planet. The story is told from the perspective of one those slug-like persons, who has great ambitions but very little time to accomplish them. There's quite a lot of existential questioning. It's not the typical alien contact story or the usual colonization tale. It's fascinating to see the world from a non-human perspective. If this novelette had more resolution or if it were longer and had accomplished I'd have rated it better. The futility is left ambiguous, similar to the the sole other one I rated decently from this collection. That's probably the main reason why I've rated it as such.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 15:44:13 2023 No.22400421 >>22400365 Correct!

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 15:55:40 2023 No.22400455 >>22400420 another roastie novel? No, thanks.

Anonymous Sun Aug 20 16:00:55 2023 No.22400475
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>>22400365
>So basically you're saying that foid fantasy is trash and I am correct to skip out on anything written by a foid.
No. That's a retard mindset. Maybe you guys have never really read fantasy seriously, but over the course of my life I read hundreds of books written by women and I don't regret the experience at all. Male writers tend to write stories more appealing to men, but at the same time the stories written by women are different, thus more interesting and peculiar. I swear, some of you here talk as if seeing other perspective than your own was radioactive hazard detrimental to your health.

If you are an autist incapable of being interested in anything aside of few topics you get obsessed over, then reading fantasy by women might be not for you. If you are an actual human being with a few working brain cells it would definitely be a good experience for you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 16:02:59 2023 No.22400481 >>22400475 That guy isn't worth interacting with They're trying to do the outerlit thing where they make up excuses to never read anything ever, been at it all week

Anonymous Sun Aug 20 16:08:07 2023 No.22400491
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>>22400475
>but over the course of my life I read hundreds of books written by women and I don't regret the experience at all
lol fag
over the course of you listening to women cluck on and on about their retarded fantasy bullshit, I was fucking dozens of women and making them wear cat ears and chokers for my fantasy enjoyment and then went back to reading authors like Wolfe, Lafferty, and Chesterson. Good white Christian male authors. The only ones that matter.

Anonymous Sun Aug 20 16:17:00 2023 No.22400531

>>22400475
>life I read hundreds of books written by women and I don't regret the experience at all.
Haha no regret at all!
you sound like a fag who is telling straight men that new experiences (namely taking D) is actually good for them and that they are ignorant and close minded if they refuse.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 16:19:34 2023 No.22400540 >>22400491 >Good white Christian male authors. The only ones that matter. Kys christcuck

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 16:29:52 2023 No.22400573 >>22400455 Novelette

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 16:35:29 2023 No.22400587 >>22400034 The most compelling argument is that he did book signings for his comic and was a man. Noah something, iirc

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 16:36:02 2023 No.22400590 >>22400491 I really which the mods enforced banning christfags and sending them back to /his/. The big brains over there btfo of all of you and you crawled back to /lit/ where people don't challenge you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 16:41:43 2023 No.22400615 >>22400590 >>22400540 enjoying satan's cock much?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 16:50:00 2023 No.22400640 >>22400531 >compares reading books to taking a dick in the ass Anon, what are you doing on /lit/? You might consider less stressful endeavours for someone with your intellectual capabilities.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 16:52:26 2023 No.22400652 >>22400615 >talks about white christian authors >is racist >breaks the commandments regular >tells other people they are with satan

Anonymous Sun Aug 20 16:53:41 2023 No.22400658

>>22400587
Probably a closeted tranny.
99.9% of the time authors write what they know and understand, their writing reflects their thought processes and even their views and opinions. Only very few, the absolute minority of top tier authors step out of their comfort zone and go beyond it. It's very unlikely that some no name straight white man actually step out of his traditional mindset and started writing women and tranny focused and oriented fantasy just for the sake of it. He is certainly a tranny or a homosexual or at the very least bi liberal feminist.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 16:58:01 2023 No.22400672 >>22400640 Don't bring me into this. /lit/ has been infected by dick takers (or worse) for a long time and /sffg/ is no exception.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 16:58:18 2023 No.22400674 >>22400652 Wait how did you know I was racist? Don't forget sexist.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 17:15:33 2023 No.22400759 >>22400674 Why wouldn't you be?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 17:23:03 2023 No.22400783 >>22400674 dont forget based as well

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 17:31:31 2023 No.22400809 >>22400475 your expertise is required! see >>22400777

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 17:45:38 2023 No.22400857 File: 782 KB, 649x664, yeah....png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22400475 .

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 17:49:31 2023 No.22400874 >>22400857 Holy shit, wtf is going on with those book covers? were they all designed by the same shitty art roastie? I have seen better (and definitely more based) ai creations on /g/

Anonymous Sun Aug 20 17:51:56 2023 No.22400888

>>22394906
Not that. I think the military chose him because they knew he was tenacious and cowardly enough to survive a long time, but then he struck a deal with the invaders to take him to Earth and rule over it in threat of blowing it up if he didn't get his way.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 17:58:06 2023 No.22400909 >>22400475 I read books written by women, I just avoid books with female protags

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 18:08:47 2023 No.22400938 >>22400420 your ""reviews""" are SHIT FUCK OFF

Anonymous Sun Aug 20 18:20:46 2023 No.22400967

is there any fantasy out there which actually has a decent female character, beyond cersei lannister. it's the only female pov i've ever read that didn't make me cringe. i hated egwene and nynaeve so much i had to stop reading WoT. all female characters in malazan are meh, xcept sorry when she is possessed by cotillion.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 18:24:41 2023 No.22400978 >>22400967 I like the whores in Bakker

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 18:26:45 2023 No.22400985 >>22400967 No

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 18:28:19 2023 No.22400995 >>22400967 Agia

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 18:28:42 2023 No.22400998 >>22400967 sabriel

Anonymous Sun Aug 20 18:36:56 2023 No.22401018

>>22400978
bakker doesnt have a single decent character
>>22400995
didnt like her, too illogical and shallow, even for a female. but i will concede that i am probably too retarded for BOTNS
>>22400998
thanks, i will check it out
>>22400985
i suspect you are right

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 18:40:32 2023 No.22401026 Did this faggot die? I just read his book and he was last seen in January and the series is on hiatus. It's shit getting a new series and finding out it has been Rothfuss'd or GRR-Martin'd

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 18:49:29 2023 No.22401060 >>22401026 oh boo hoo half a year of delays

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 18:51:23 2023 No.22401069 >>22401026 >It's shit getting a new series read standalone books please.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 18:53:25 2023 No.22401077 >>22400658 >Only very few, the absolute minority of top tier authors step out of their comfort zone and go beyond it. Name 5. Seriously name at least 5 authors please, I'm new to the genre.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 19:01:05 2023 No.22401109 >>22401077 Nk jemisin

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 19:02:35 2023 No.22401119 File: 76 KB, 555x631, 1621406304917.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22401069 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I CAN ONLY READ WHAT THE PUBLISHERS TELL ME TO READ!!!!!!

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 19:02:59 2023 No.22401123 >>22401119 https://take.supersurvey.com/poll4907336x9e894EaD-151

Anonymous Sun Aug 20 19:04:28 2023 No.22401131
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>>22400252
>>22400347
>Any good haremkino with incest?
I'm reading Erogamer right now and it serves well as both material for wanking and as a decent read. Surprisingly it's very well-written with genuine depth, feels like it's written by an experienced author who wants to write erotica in their pastime.
DL: https://www.reddit.com/r/rational/comments/z3921u/nsfw_erogamer_the_philosophical_porn_quest_you/

Anonymous Sun Aug 20 19:08:55 2023 No.22401146

>>22401131
>rational /lit/
Lol, lmao even. They are all retarded autists who think that they are savants. It's hilarious, yet sad watching them come up with nonsensical concepts like "information hazard" and go on serus-bisniz all caps rants about retarded hypotheticals.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 19:11:09 2023 No.22401150 >>22401146 that's not even specific to any board anymore

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 19:12:10 2023 No.22401152 >>22401150 oh i misread oops

Anonymous Sun Aug 20 19:17:45 2023 No.22401166

>>22401131
If you can't write an eronovel without a 2-page disclaimer about rape being bad and using the word "consent" (not even a coherent concept btw) 100 times throughout the novel then you should not write an eronovel.
Anything past "This is fiction" or "don't do this irl" makes you a faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 19:23:17 2023 No.22401183 >>22401123 Traditional publisher (not including web novels) 0 Web publisher (including translated novels) 2 I reject your poll and will post a better one 0 Oh, NONO! LOTR-fags this isn't our day!

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 19:29:00 2023 No.22401207 >>22400874 Probably marketing-focused cover design or something. Most authors don't care what their cover looks like so long as it vaguely fits and helps sell it.

Anonymous Sun Aug 20 19:29:25 2023 No.22401210

>>22401146
I know
>But if that's not enough to convince you, then I'll point out that the characters are amazingly well-written who don't act like NPCs, but as if they are real life individuals in strange situations (and for a few of them, with unusual desires and priorities).
It's like this is the first novel he has read.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 19:40:17 2023 No.22401252 >>22401207 >Most authors don't care what their cover looks like so long as it vaguely fits and helps sell it. Why does everyone have no soul nowadays? Absence of God?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 19:48:25 2023 No.22401274 >>22401252 Have you ever seen a bible? What is it with all the larping christfags? Taleb? Moldbug? Luke Smith? What is it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 20:11:25 2023 No.22401334 >>22401274 You cannot serve both God and Mammon You can never create good art if you care about sales over quality and expressing your true soul.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 20:13:31 2023 No.22401342 This thread proofs the supremacy of Bakker.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 20:16:29 2023 No.22401353 >>22401334 You don't even go to church retard. Again stop larping or I will stomp you into the dirt irl, drop your addy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 20:21:44 2023 No.22401370 >>22401353 Of course you get so mad when God is mentioned, demon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 20:31:39 2023 No.22401399 >>22401274 4chan is mainstream = tons of normalfags = normalfag religion worship.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 20:34:33 2023 No.22401414 >>22401353 10880 Malibu Point, 90265

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 20:38:42 2023 No.22401425 >>22401399 4chan is not mainstream /b/ is mainstream and /a/ /v/ /pol/ are mainstream /lit/ is not, though it is, like /sci/ a magnet to larpers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 20:51:14 2023 No.22401450 >>22401425 >larper sorry champ, I don't listen to 2020+ newfags or value your posts in any way

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 20:53:42 2023 No.22401458 >>22401450 I was larping with /b/tards at meetups in 2006 why not end yourself bookworm.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 20:54:09 2023 No.22401461 >been here since 2006 >"4chan isn't mainstream!!1!111" every time

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 21:01:17 2023 No.22401472 >>22401461 >>words have meaning >NO they don't lawl every time

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 21:03:45 2023 No.22401479 Normal religious people don't sperg out in social settings and start going on about christianity out of nowhere. That's exclusively what idiots who got converted by the internet do and they aren't remotely normal

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 21:06:26 2023 No.22401484 >>22401479 It's perfectly normal within religious reasoning to believe that a website with 22 million monthly users isn't mainstream.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 21:09:15 2023 No.22401491 >>22401484 boards.4channel.org/lit has ~2000 posts a day. X after it "died" has 6000 posts a second.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 21:11:46 2023 No.22401501 >>22401484 >religious reasoning oxymoron

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 21:15:44 2023 No.22401511 Scifi with cyclical theming like Canticle for Leibowitz?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 21:18:22 2023 No.22401517 >>22401491 >both incorrect statements lol https://4stats.io/ >>22401501 Fair.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 21:20:37 2023 No.22401523 >>22397354 Sleeping with the judges never hurt either.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 21:23:28 2023 No.22401533 Is twitter mainstream? How could it be when 90% of its users are between 22-28?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 21:24:39 2023 No.22401535 >>22401517 >3754 posts a day Still 4 orders of magnitude smaller than a mainstream site. And 2 orders of magnitude if you take the sum of every board's posts.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 21:27:20 2023 No.22401544 >>22401484 Fucking Booking.com has more visitors than 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 21:29:51 2023 No.22401557 >>22401511 All of Gene Wolfe's work, especially Fifth Head and or BoTNS

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 21:29:59 2023 No.22401559 File: 32 KB, 320x363, burgers.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Science Fiction and Fantasy?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 21:30:31 2023 No.22401562 >>22401559 Xianxia will save us all.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 21:31:31 2023 No.22401563 >>22401562 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2ABmPalvv4

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 21:37:35 2023 No.22401574 File: 61 KB, 410x591, 1688897757162341.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22401501 ???

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 21:40:21 2023 No.22401580 >>22401562 Xianxia is based

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 21:43:22 2023 No.22401590 >>22401580 It is. /sff/'s eyes don't recognize Tai Shan

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 21:50:08 2023 No.22401607 >>22394707 The author of this masterpiece has a wife and child. What have your "heroes" accomplished?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 21:53:39 2023 No.22401616 >>22401563 Didn't read. If they're going to romanize it they better prepare to face my EOP wrath. Wu-shia. Shianshia. Shanghoo. Wooleen. Kee. Seethe or switch to a romanizing system that wasn't made by a chink that didn't even speak English.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 22:01:02 2023 No.22401630 >>22401616 ooshya shyenshya jyanwho oolin chi

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 22:05:08 2023 No.22401639 File: 19 KB, 326x500, tom shippey.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] New translation of Beowulf by the Tolkien scholar Tom Shippey.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 22:06:21 2023 No.22401641 >>22401630 That's not how they're written :) Wade Giles is the one that calls it Chi and that's verboten

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 22:07:27 2023 No.22401645 >>22401639 There is no way someone has shippey as a real last name, what's his angle here

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 22:13:56 2023 No.22401659 >>22401607 He had a wife and children too

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 22:35:08 2023 No.22401711 >>22401639 Not relevant to this thread.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 22:39:13 2023 No.22401724 >>22401711 Why?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 22:41:35 2023 No.22401729 So Wolfe just outright copied a plot device from Jack Vance. Not even an attempt to make it a little different. Just plain ripped it. ( the basis of Cugels Saga becoming the plot of Nightside of the Long Sun

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 22:41:35 2023 No.22401730 I read... I read a litrpg with a female protagonist and liked it...

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 22:42:53 2023 No.22401734 >>22399856 What would you mean by pozzed? There are strong female characters sure, but they aren’t the focal point and the books are written in a 1st person memoir kind of way.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 22:47:40 2023 No.22401759 >>22401730 Which one?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 22:49:03 2023 No.22401765 >>22401759 https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/62087/saintess-summons-skeletons-a-holy-necromancy-litrpg

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 22:52:06 2023 No.22401774 >>22401765 >necromancer MC The basedness level counters the female protag so you're good

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 23:03:10 2023 No.22401795 >>22401639 >Tolkien """"scholar"""" So, unemployed?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 23:04:44 2023 No.22401803 >>22401765 >no yuri Blud I'll read it but I won't like it.

Anonymous Sun Aug 20 23:32:42 2023 No.22401872
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>>22401795
Shippey did not immediately pursue an academic career after graduation, as the British economy in the early 1960s did not offer much work. Not until the mid-sixties did he enroll in Cambridge. His first academic work on Tolkien was from late 1969 or early 1970. Shippey, a junior lecturer at the University of Birmingham, was asked to speak at a Tolkien day organised by a student association. That lecture, "Tolkien as philologist", would form Shippey's view of Tolkien - a philologist - for years to come. Unbeknownst to him, Joy Hill, the private secretary of Tolkien, was in the audience. After the lecture, she asked him for the script, for Tolkien to read. Tolkien wrote to Shippey on April 13, 1970, with what first seemed like a formal reply.

The first meeting between Shippey and Tolkien took place in 1972. Norman Davis, successor of Tolkien at the Merton Chair of English Language, invited Shippey over for dinner. Shippey, then a Fellow of St. John's College, taught Old and Middle English with Tolkien's syllabus, and his meeting with Tolkien at the dinner left him full of professional piety.

After Tolkien's death, Shippey's admiration only grew. His first printed essay, "Creation from Philology in The Lord of the Rings", was much of an elaboration of his 1970 lecture. In 1979, he was elected to the Chair of English Language and Medieval English Literature at the University of Leeds, a former position of Tolkien. He published his first book, the famed The Road to Middle-earth, in 1982. At this time, Shippey shifted from the view of Tolkien as a philologist to a view of a post-war writer, or what he called "traumatised authors", like Vonnegut and Golding.

After 14 years at Leeds, Shippey moved to the Saint Louis University, where he was elected to the Walter J. Ong Chair of Humanities. Here, he could focus in teaching, research and publishing, rather than administrative work. He currently still holds this chair.

Anonymous Sun Aug 20 23:53:11 2023 No.22401926
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Still I walked through fire and blinding light, leaning against roaring winds, the letter tchod upraised in my left hand, the sword of the Knight Inquisitor in my right.
Schweitzersisters....

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 20 23:55:56 2023 No.22401933 >>22401639 I don't mind another translation by a scholar of the period but I can't see what it can possibly contribute when the Heaney version already exists

Anonymous Mon Aug 21 01:02:10 2023 No.22402155

>>22400967
The women in the Book of Words series by J.V. Jones are well done. There is one in particular that I still think about often. Her other series, Sword of Shadows has some good ones as well, but the main one is shit. Sword of Shadow will never be finished though because Jones is old and lazy and basically the female GRRM.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 01:34:08 2023 No.22402251 Finished The Mask of the Sorcerer. It was fantastic. Stands up with The Broken Sword, and The King of Elfland's Daughter among the best stand-alone fantasy novels I have ever read.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 01:57:04 2023 No.22402308 >>22401511 For works that deal with cycles because of physical realities: -Helliconia deals with climate on a grand scale and how that affects society. -The Mote in God's Eye features the latest iteration of a cycle propelled by biological need

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 01:57:06 2023 No.22402309 >>22400590 >/his/ >big brain what haplo is this

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 02:22:47 2023 No.22402369 File: 238 KB, 718x1024, s718.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any anons read pic related? If so would you rec it for horror kino?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 02:32:09 2023 No.22402396 >torturer >concilliator >lictor >autarch Just realized all the titles refer to Severian

Anonymous Mon Aug 21 03:43:42 2023 No.22402620
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Bakkerfags: I'm just beginning The Aspect-Emperor. Am I supposed to read What Has Come Before at the back of the book (The Judging Eye), after the glossary and dramatis personae, before I begin the book? It's been a year or so since I finished The Prince of Nothing - I could use a refresher for the previous trikogy, but unsure if this contains spoilers for the novel as its located at the end of the book itself

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 04:43:07 2023 No.22402778 >>22401563 sancshia/sankshia wucshia/wukshia janhu chi

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 04:46:05 2023 No.22402785 >>22401872 such a long career that amounts to pretty much nothing, pathetic

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 04:50:28 2023 No.22402795 >>22401734 Are there any homosexuals, lesbians, trannies, strong women, feminism, cuckery, whiteknighting, modern progressive issues, blacks, promotion of blacks, discrimination of whites?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 05:34:38 2023 No.22402877 >>22402251 correct. Glad you thought so

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 06:07:22 2023 No.22402935 >>22402785 HOLY Tom Shippey BTFO

Anonymous Mon Aug 21 06:39:45 2023 No.22403027

can't find anything to read
why do so many fantasy books follow such a generic formula and never try to do anything interesting
not to mention it's impossible to find recommendations on any site because they're plagued with shit taste normies who recommend women authors

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 06:53:45 2023 No.22403056 I am enjoying Shadow of the Torturer for sure, but it hasn't hooked me yet like Fifth Head of Cerberus hooked me. I am going to keep going, but I hope it ramps up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 07:13:28 2023 No.22403087 Can any anon who bought the new Gene Wolfe comic collection Book of Fuligin share the pdf with us here ? t. broke thirdworlder

Anonymous Mon Aug 21 07:52:58 2023 No.22403156
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Been reading a lot of Brandon Sanderson lately. Already done with Mistborn Era 1 and Warbreaker. Reading the Way of kings right now.

I liked Warbreaker so much more than Mistborn, In fact, I find Mistbron not very good at all. A solid 6/10 all around. I heard it was super good, am I missing something? Does it get better in retrospect the more of the Cosmere I read?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 09:58:48 2023 No.22403327 >>22403156 >Been reading a lot of Brandon Sanderson lately. Already done with Mistborn Era 1 and Warbreaker. Reading the Way of kings right now. I am so sorry, anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 10:26:03 2023 No.22403358 File: 74 KB, 474x233, 1692613537063.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Seeking recs for something similar to Vance's Lyonesse series?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 10:36:37 2023 No.22403371 Arya's story could've needed a good rape or three

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 10:38:29 2023 No.22403375 >could've needed

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 10:39:38 2023 No.22403376 shut up nigger I'm phoneposting

Anonymous Mon Aug 21 10:44:36 2023 No.22403386
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From previous thread, anon was trying to find a book he read long ago:
>>22382438
>I read a book in which space had geometric storms that annihilated any unnaturally shaped buildings, basically anything with right angles/standard earth architecture
Engines of God by Jack McDevitt
Kind of a potboiler but generally enjoyable.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 10:46:59 2023 No.22403392 >>22401491 >X after it "died" has 6000 posts a second. The fuck? No way there are that many posts on >>>/x/ It's just "how I summon succabis" threads over and over

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 11:07:28 2023 No.22403423 >>22403392 any books about summoning a succubus?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 11:08:23 2023 No.22403426 File: 338 KB, 1313x1667, 1687694755360306.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I like reading female writers :)

Anonymous Mon Aug 21 11:12:28 2023 No.22403433
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>>22403423
>any books about summoning a succubus?
Accidentally Summoned Succubus: Spicy Adventures of the Suddenly Supernatural – Book 1
It's pure fantasy fulfillment.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 11:41:16 2023 No.22403491 I am no expert, but there is a dryness to Bakker's prose that I dislike. Great story-teller, but I wish there was more, I dunno, emotion? in his writing. I guess when your protagonist is an autistic human-computer it kind of makes sense.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 12:11:43 2023 No.22403567 >>22403027 Fantasy is not literature, that's why. It's slop.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 12:16:14 2023 No.22403579 File: 78 KB, 490x498, 8e1c35a61929fbd46948788ba47b9860.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22400967 Yes

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 12:18:15 2023 No.22403582 >>22403156 >A solid 6/10 all around. I heard it was super good, am I missing something? You heard wrong, and you are being far too generous. Sanderson is an abysmal writer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 12:32:41 2023 No.22403613 >>22395580 what is it about? but god, i hate superhero shit so i 'm not sure i want to know.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 12:40:18 2023 No.22403631 File: 100 KB, 1024x576, 1692618460280549m (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22398229 Dune

Anonymous Mon Aug 21 12:50:49 2023 No.22403647

>>22403613
Aliens have magic and give earth a way to use it via a 'system' in exchange for earthlings getting called up to alien military duty to fight 'demons'. Some guys use the power to be superheroes/villains. MC wants to be a sidekick type.
But there's been absolutely zero actual superhero content besides the intro so far. It's more about exploring the impact having such a system has on human and alien society.
The most current chapters have the protagonist finally trying to get into super hero school but at this point because of stuff that's happened he's not actually that bothered about being a super-hero anymore and is mainly only doing it to develop his power.

It seems pretty clear from the story so far that the story is building towards a focus on the aliens and their inter-galactic issues. Like characters outright say that earth's superhero stuff is a meaningless hobby but most of earth hasn't realised this yet.
I wouldn't be surprised if the next 6 months to 1 year irl is spent on chapters that only deal with earth and super-hero school though but I trust the author to not make it a boring school arc since the mc doesn't really need education at this point.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 13:00:45 2023 No.22403667 >>22403647 >MC wants to be a sidekick type. that combined with the title sounds interesting to me. might give it a shot then.

None !SFFG.n1h7M Mon Aug 21 14:23:55 2023 No.22403834
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>>22394313
Just Out of Jupiter's Reach, The Far Reaches - Nnedi Okorafor (2023)
I literally don't understand the purpose of this novelette. As far as I can tell it's about going to just out of Jupiter's reach and returning to Earth. If it was more than that, then its practical purpose has eluded me. The majority of the story is them meeting up in their biological ships for a week together, which was fine, but the question of "why?" overwhelmed me. If this is an allegory then I don't understand it all. Maybe it has a lot to say, but if it does I'm hard of hearing at the least.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 14:30:21 2023 No.22403846 >>22403834 >Unpronounceable author name >shitty pretentious book Name a more iconic duo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 14:34:36 2023 No.22403857 >>22403846 the name is entirely phonetic

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 14:34:47 2023 No.22403858 >>22403834 >novelette is that like the female author version of a novella?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 14:37:54 2023 No.22403868 >>22403858 Do you not see the tripcode? You are talking to either a retard or an insane retard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 14:41:00 2023 No.22403880 >>22403868 >not having forced anon enabled

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 14:46:05 2023 No.22403889 >>22403880 Trip codes have a use, you are just too new to understand it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 14:48:55 2023 No.22403900 >>22403834 Youre the one who decided to read a story by a negro femoid, dont whine like a bitch boy after ignoring that double whammy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 14:50:21 2023 No.22403904 >>22403889 >it totally has a practical use. Every tripfag knows what he's okay

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 14:51:35 2023 No.22403908 >>22403904 If jannies did their job then we wouldn't have tripfags shitting up threads.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 15:49:50 2023 No.22404083 >>22403834 your """reviews""" are SHIT FUCK OFF

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 16:03:25 2023 No.22404122 >>22403491 Same thing happened to me. I dropped Darkness that Comes Before about two-thirds of the way through despite really enjoying it, because I felt there was no moral weight to anything

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 16:06:17 2023 No.22404131 >>22404122 >dropping something you enjoy what

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 16:10:57 2023 No.22404149 How's the Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn sequel series?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 16:11:28 2023 No.22404152 >>22404131 There are many ideals that I must uphold that are far more worthy than mere enjoyment. You would never understand that pleasure is not the end goal or even all that important.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 16:14:50 2023 No.22404165 File: 122 KB, 352x500, 1074447-352x500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Has anyone read it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 16:17:10 2023 No.22404171 >>22403908 The anonymous ritualposters shitting up the threads aren't using tripfags, or even names, newfag.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 16:20:26 2023 No.22404182 >>22404171 >tripfagging isn't trigfagging because it's not a normal tripfag Tell me you are a newfag without telling me you are a newfag

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 16:22:57 2023 No.22404189 >>22404182 Yes anon, anonymous shitposters over the past decade are more obnoxious than any tripfag ever was, barring for a few extreme examples like Lanced Jack. An anonymous poster is, literally by definition, not a tripfag, newfag.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 16:29:54 2023 No.22404212 >>22404165 >>/lit/thread/21635354#p21636452 from the Goodreads group in the OP /sffg/ reviews: 2 /sffg/ ratings: 1 5 star, 3 4 stars several marked to-read

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 16:32:35 2023 No.22404217 >>22404171 >anonymous ritualposters People posting about shit they like that isn't LOTR or GOT isn't shitting up the thread retarded nigger. Read Reverend insanity.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 16:50:19 2023 No.22404269 >>22404217 Does it upset you that you are no different in your ritualposting than normalfags who eat up <top bestselling title here>, retarded nigger? Corral your ilk with the rest of them and build a bonfire as far as I'm concerned.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 16:53:24 2023 No.22404284 >>22404189 >anonymous shitposters That's the entire point of this website. No one cares about effort posters with a tripcode

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 16:59:59 2023 No.22404301 >>22401872 such a long career that amounts to pretty much nothing, pathetic

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 17:06:25 2023 No.22404317 >>22404284 >effort kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 17:08:37 2023 No.22404324 >>22404269 If they are mortal then I am the emperor of heaven. Just a single particle of light reflecting off my being is imbued with enough spiritual energy to vaporize their entire planet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 17:10:42 2023 No.22404330 >>22404317 what's so funny

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 17:11:38 2023 No.22404333 >>22404301 HOLY Tom Shippey BTFO

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 17:16:14 2023 No.22404346 >>22404152 What ideals do you intel

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 17:54:23 2023 No.22404456 I read Between Two Fires and then The Terror, any more good historically grounded fiction with supernatural shit?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 18:02:42 2023 No.22404481 >>22404456 My book I'm writing. Cumming next summer

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 18:13:36 2023 No.22404512 >>22404481 >waiting the entire year to cum based nofapper

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 18:18:32 2023 No.22404526 >>22404456 Neither of those are good though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 18:50:20 2023 No.22404610 >>22404526 Both of those books are good thoughever

Anonymous Mon Aug 21 18:55:13 2023 No.22404623
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>>22398004
Okay, I finished the first book last night. The latter 2/3 WERE better. But then I start the second book and it doesn't start off from the end of the first. That doesn't really make sense from the perspective of how and why the book is being written in universe, but beyond that the transition is done poorly. It's not a switch to the perspective of another and then a return to our protagonist where he was(which was a dramatic scene where he killed a man.), but it remains the perspective of our protagonist, and the mention of facts and names which have not previously been introduced. It's as if a series of chapters existed between the last book and the start of this, and they were later cut out with little care.

I thought it might quickly explain things, but it doesn't. The first chapter continues to carry on as if you've read previous chapters of build up. I maintain that Gene Wolf is a fat retarded jew.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 19:01:03 2023 No.22404639 might read another discworld book idk

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 19:03:12 2023 No.22404644 >>22404623 I don't know whay you are trying to do here. If you really are waiting for a chapter or a scene in the series that "clicks" for you so you can exclaim to yourself "FUCKING KINO!" as you read it then that's not going to happen.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 19:03:28 2023 No.22404645 File: 1.92 MB, 1838x1103, 8584839393.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] give favorite fantasy novel which feature talking animals prominently pl0x

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 19:03:54 2023 No.22404647 >>22403358 Maybe some old Poul works like Broken Sword?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 19:04:42 2023 No.22404650 >>22404645 Nostrilia

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 19:05:32 2023 No.22404651 redwall

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 19:07:10 2023 No.22404658 File: 149 KB, 617x900, ka-9781481495608_xlg-1453616109.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22404645 >This

Anonymous Mon Aug 21 19:08:05 2023 No.22404664

>>22404644
I was trying to enjoy a series a friend recommended, and I percieve nuggets of gold within, but the author and his lack of literary skill are proving to be a major hurdle to overcome. Someone who isn't retarded should publish a rewrite/restructuring and treat the originals as a draft.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 19:12:27 2023 No.22404676 File: 28 KB, 321x500, 41yPSRwKWQL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I could barely put down the first book but holy shit, I'm struggling to get through the first couple chapters of the second book. Should I stick through it? Is it worth it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 19:12:44 2023 No.22404677 >first person books written like someone's journal or like them recounting a tale wow i hate this

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 19:12:59 2023 No.22404678 >>22404623 How do you read so fast?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 19:15:32 2023 No.22404686 >>22404678 I get in bed at 8-9pm and read on my phone until the sun rises or I pass out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 19:15:37 2023 No.22404688 File: 107 KB, 615x900, 91sLlsy6g0L._AC_UL900_SR615,900_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] holy reddit

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 19:33:24 2023 No.22404737 >>22404676 the series is average at best, the scifi aspect of it is good but the characters and their plot lines are garbage af, you can skip most al capones bs.

Anonymous Mon Aug 21 19:57:39 2023 No.22404797

>>22404688
It's a solid trillogy. Nothing outstanding writing-wise, but it takes a concept, developes it sufficiently, works out the things it wants to visit, then finishes adequately. Great in how it turned out as a whole.

Just don't read the fourth book, it's boring as hell and kinda pointless.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 20:20:17 2023 No.22404841 >>22404686 >read on my phone Anon I don't know you but I can say with certainty that you disgust me

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 20:21:26 2023 No.22404844 >>22404645 Tailchaser's Song The Bees Duncton Wood

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 20:47:08 2023 No.22404923 >>22404841 I'm not buying physical before I read something and know it's not pozzed or just bad.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 20:48:56 2023 No.22404925 >>22404623 I also enjoy skimming renowned and cerebral works of art and snorting while the entirety of it passes over my head.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 20:52:29 2023 No.22404929 File: 39 KB, 427x430, Gene Wolfe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Excuse me, can I get a physiognomy check?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 20:55:42 2023 No.22404939 >>22404929 He's a STEMfag before the pajeet selfhelp productivity wave. What did you expect?

Anonymous Mon Aug 21 21:02:22 2023 No.22404961

>>22403327
>>22403582
I mean, I don;t hate the time I spend reading them, so I'm probably gonna continue, if for nothing else, then to see what I don't like.

The 6/10 was because I liked the setting. THe visuals it evoked were pretty cool, I felt, and I liked the Kondra. 8/10 for the setting for me personally. 5/10 on the characters. VIn was boring. Sazed was annoying. I liked Spook somewhat, and Ellind was fine. The story I felt was the weakest aspect. 4/10. average them together, get about a 6/10.

How bad is his hweel fo time stuff? I was gonna read that next, but I was hesistant since it was unfinished. I hear nothing BUT praise for Jodran's stuff.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 21:07:49 2023 No.22404969 >>22404923 That's what ereaders are for. E-ink is based.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 21:15:48 2023 No.22404996 >>22404969 What's the best e-reader? Is it ok to buy a used one?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 22:20:48 2023 No.22405188 >>22404929 Gene, easy on the pringles....

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 22:26:19 2023 No.22405199 >>22404925 Did you address my critiques, extoll the virtues or merit of his writing? No, you've made an appeal to authority. Your head is as vacuous as a pringle can in the trash bin.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 22:27:39 2023 No.22405202 >>22404996 I use a kobo libra and have never had a problem with it. Not one. In fact I'd marry it if I could. >used I don't see why not. They last for years

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 22:31:59 2023 No.22405217 >>22405202 Me but a Kindle Paperwhite. The perfect marriage companion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 22:48:52 2023 No.22405254 I see you guys complaining about litrpg stuff on royal road but the real menace is yuri and yaoi, you can't filter them out with tags and if you block the romance category then half of the site is gone lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 22:54:12 2023 No.22405263 >filtered by yuri lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 22:54:43 2023 No.22405264 >>22405254 Don't care bro, i only read books published before 2001

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 22:58:27 2023 No.22405273 >>22405263 I do not support the LGBT movement, simple as. >>22405264 Get up with the times grandpa, time to read xianxia with ultranationalist chink protagonist

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 22:59:31 2023 No.22405275 Yuri isn't lgbbq, chud.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 23:05:46 2023 No.22405288 What is that putrid smell that just entered the thread?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 23:14:39 2023 No.22405319 >>22405254 >you guys Not a hive mind homo

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 23:27:54 2023 No.22405363 >>22405263 faggot

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 23:40:04 2023 No.22405397 >>22405288 A jew?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 21 23:42:59 2023 No.22405401 I've never read any fantasy with yuri. I'm going to look into it now, but I anticipate there will be some pozzed shit to sift through to find the gems. Hopefully there are some with yuri protagonists.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 22 00:02:53 2023 No.22405430 File: 567 KB, 923x702, 1661054087358437.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Achamian heeming Mimara with his staff across the side of the head at the beginning of The Judging Eye

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 22 00:04:10 2023 No.22405432 >>22405397 Worse, I'm afraid....

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 22 00:07:48 2023 No.22405440 >>22405432 Two jews?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 22 00:14:20 2023 No.22405452 >>22405401 There's a few yuri charts in the mega in the OP.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 22 00:15:10 2023 No.22405455 >>22405397 Bless you!

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 22 00:26:37 2023 No.22405482 >>22405455 Keep your Molochian "blessings" off of me, demon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 22 01:18:38 2023 No.22405602 File: 102 KB, 767x469, lol (2).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Not quite what I had in mind.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 22 01:20:55 2023 No.22405606 >>22405602 I filename'd but you know what is also filename? Only 39 results.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 22 01:21:03 2023 No.22405607 File: 364 KB, 747x941, IMG_20221215_150540.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22404623 >but beyond that the transition is done poorly Damn you were majorly filtered. I am happy you are trying out Wolfe but you sound like pleb.

Anonymous Tue Aug 22 01:21:56 2023 No.22405611

Everyone thinks Arya is oging to take Jon's face but I think it would be pretty ironic if she wound up taking Sansa's face instead through some circumstances. GRRM clearly got inspiration of Arya and Sansa from Miramelle in MTS by splitting her character it'd be a neat twist and ironic twist if Arya was forced to live out the rest of her life as Sansa

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 22 01:31:41 2023 No.22405638 Searching for incest will yield you nothing good. It is the incest found by chance that truly shines.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 22 01:34:09 2023 No.22405652 >>22405602 Just read Mathilda

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 22 01:34:22 2023 No.22405655 Lud-in-the-Mist as good as I've heard?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 22 01:41:27 2023 No.22405676 >>22405401 Otherside Picnic is good

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 22 01:55:11 2023 No.22405725 >>22394313 What are some good books that wouldn't translate well into a movie or a tv show?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 22 01:58:26 2023 No.22405736 >>22405725 obviously BoTNS But no book should be made into film/tv

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 22 02:01:08 2023 No.22405746 >>22405725 The Mask of the Sorcerer

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 22 02:10:42 2023 No.22405779 >>22405725 Any Calvino

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 22 02:53:19 2023 No.22405889 New: >>22405888 >>22405888 >>22405888

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 22 03:31:23 2023 No.22405983 >>22404623 Is this bait or are you really filtered this hard?

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