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https://lampbylit.com/magazine/issue-016/
>https://lampbylit.com/magazine/issue-016/
https://lampbylit.com/magazine/issue-016/

IN THIS ISSUE:
>a disavowal of discord drama
>schizo cantos
>unhinged screencaps
>works of impressive length
>exclusive interviews
>a call to arms
>AND MORE

https://LampByLit.com
>https://LampByLit.com
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ISSUE SIXTEEN HATH BEEN BESTOWED UPON THE EAGER /LIT/IZENS. GO FORTH MY PRETTIES AND READ.

Submit to 017:
lamp.lit.magazine@gmail.com
admin@lampbylit.com
lampbylit.com/submit

Check your submission status here:

lampbylit.com/elite
Username: anon
Password: god

Best of &amp is on schedule and will arrive in July.

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>> No.22185259

Old one was killed by Gardner bumping old threads. Another notch to his list of crimes. Death is the only answer!

>> No.22185285

im submitting a letter im writing to my wife to issue 17

>> No.22185297

Why did you make a new thread after the editors explicitly told you not to in the last one? We were waiting for the old 016 thread to die so that we could post a thread soliciting submissions for 017. The new thread is here >>22185288. Go post there and let this useless shitheap of a thread die. You’re actively hindering &amp’s progress and delaying the release of the new issue by doing this.

>> No.22185303

>>22185297
>>22185297
>Why did you make a new thread after the editors explicitly told you not to in the last one?
Because Gardner killed the last one by spamming old threads.
>You’re actively hindering &amp’s progress and delaying the release of the new issue by doing this.
Stop being so dramatic. My thread is too old to delete. Delete yours and post your call for submissions here you fucking baby. Stop looking for drama.

>> No.22185315

>>22185303
Stop bumping this useless fucking thread. I’m not going to post a call for submissions here, because everyone interested in &amp has already heard about the 016 release weeks ago and therefore won’t click the fifth thread about it. Whoever you are, you clearly aren’t involved in &amp in any official capacity, and you’re not helping by doing this. Kindly fuck off.

>> No.22185317

>>22185297
Who gives a fuck? Stop being so petty. Anyone who was going to submit to &amp knows that submissions are open. They're always open.

>> No.22185333

>>22185315
>>22185297
Hell, there's even a call for 17 submissions in this OP and I used an image calling for submissions. Is that not good enough for you?
It sounds like you just wanted to be the one to make the OP..

>> No.22185345

>>22185333
Considering that I’m the one editing 017, I did want to make the new thread, because there’s important information about the 017 release date and the type of submissions we’re looking for right now that I needed to include in the OP. That’s neither petty nor unreasonable on my part. Now stop bumping this pointless fucking thread.

>> No.22185363

>>22185345
You needed an entire OP to tell people that there's a word count this time around? That's all this is about? Sounds like there's an itsy bitsy case of hysterics occurring right now for you to be stressing this much over something so minor.

>> No.22185478

&amp

>> No.22185607

>>22185345
>>22185315
>>22185297
Your thread got deleted. Make your necessary advertisement post here if they didn't ban you.

>> No.22185735

All posters itt are bad-faith actors and phonies. The original 016 thread did just fine as people were discussing the new issue, it lasted a a good while but that was that, and then one awaits the next edition. &amp does not do CfS threads as a standard (I remember the occasional one - with an original image - but that was basically just a let-know that the magazine was still going, what with some hiati); there is no need for generals (you saw the shambles prior to 016). Perhaps some might think differently now (Zulu, Standards, genre-gêne), but nah. . . On the other hand, posting this thread is not gonna make the month of July come any sooner or later. Most affable reader, be wary—these threads bring no good and are populated but with nithings trying to sully the name of the periodical and give the casual /lit/ viewer a fatigue of it. Write: read; and ignore.

>> No.22185778

>>22185735
Nothing I did was in bad faith. I was under the impression that I was doing you guys a solid by remaking the thread that Gardner killed by bumping over ten different threads on page 9.
I’m not in your discord clique. I didn’t know you wanted the thread killed, and I certainly didn’t know that it was going to be remade under some hyper-specific criteria. Now you don’t want threads made at all? And I’m supposed to know that now?
It’s bullshit that you’d come in here and mark me as an enemy of &amp out to get you. You should be thanking me instead of throwing a collective tantrum.

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>>22185735
&amp has always done CFS threads. Search “submit &amp” in the warosu archive, filter by OPs only, and you’ll find a whole bunch of CFS threads going back to early 2021, long before the magazine ever went on hiatus. The thread I posted (that got deleted by the godforsaken jannies, a curse be upon them) was approved by both the editor-in-chief and the 017 guest editor. But you’re right that this 016 thread is unsanctioned and pointless, and was clearly posted by a bad-faith actor who wants to derail things.

I’m reposting the CFS here so that any anons who stumble upon this will see it.

Send your work in now for a chance to be featured in &amp Issue Seventeen, coming the first week of July. We’re enforcing a stricter word-count limit for this issue, so anything over 5000 words is unlikely to be accepted. We especially are in need of artwork, classifieds, Steal These Stories, poetry, and photos right now.

Submit:
lamp.lit.magazine@gmail.com
admin@lampbylit.com
https://lampbylit.com/submit

Check your submission status here:
https://lampbylit.com/elite
Username: anon
Password: god

You can also inquire about the status of your submission in the &amp Discord:

https://discord.gg/hrqvUdVYXA

>> No.22185842

>>22185784
>>22185735
Fuck the both of you and your discord troon politicking. I’m 7.8k words into this piece and I would have happily spend the next few days editing it down to sub five. Now you’re not getting shit. Not your loss though, right? You don’t need the work of a bad faith nithing.

>> No.22185861

>>22185778
See this (reader): trying to antagonize, to make it a (collectively addressed &amp thing (discord and whatnot).
I (whom (You) replied to) am just an interested reader and one-time contributor speaking xis mind, - maybe that’s misinterpretable, but how it's spun can’t help but seem telling to me.
I don’t care about the difference b/w last deleted thread and this thread -: they’re the same fucking thread! I’m not the one arguing that these are actually (truly) impeded &amp, just that they're (lately) sus, and not too needed.

>>22185784
I might have understated. It's just that those threads were usually small but genuinely appreciated - as a signal that the magazine is still on (but doubtless also as a spurring-on to submit by some wild thread-reader) - and prior to any kind of drama.

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>>22185842
Please anon, don’t do this, please reconsider, I’m literally crying…how will &amp ever manage to go on without you deigning to bestow your literary genius upon the pages of our humble magazine? Issue Seventeen could’ve been graced by the words of the next Shakespeare if not for my folly and hubris… oh anon, *please* reconsider… whatever will we do without your 7.8k words of pure kino?How shall we ever recover from such a great loss? &ampsiblings… it’s over.

>> No.22185902

>>22185861
>just an interested reader and one-time contributor speaking xis mind
Well I’m sorry, I thought you were the editor based on your writing style. I’m not a bad faith actor and I’m not trying to antagonize. What I did was done to help &amp. I’m not in their inner circle. I don’t know what thread is being killed or why. I don’t know when a new thread is being made or what transient criteria that thread must meet.
I’m the one who was antagonized by someone in this discord clique who I apparently wronged in some unforgivable way. Like I said earlier: my thread was too old to delete, theirs was not. I get that these threads are a minefield of shitposters and bad actors, but let’s not jump to such venomous conclusions of every poster who didn’t get the memo posted to the locked off discord.

>> No.22185910

>>22185902
The editors posted multiple times in the last thread requesting that no more 016 threads be made and explaining that the next thread would be an 017 call for submissions. The Discord is public; anyone is free to make an account and join. Please stop.

>> No.22185923

>>22185902
Well, I don’t know either then; perhaps disregard. We (observers) just can’t be too certain, sadly.

>> No.22185929

>>22185910
There was also a post in that last thread where someone replied to those requests demanding that they stop pretending to be the editor. How am I supposed to parse that?
> The Discord is public; anyone is free to make an account and join.
I made a discord three weeks ago in order to join the server. It wouldn’t allow me to join and I was told in the thread that it was locked off to accounts that weren’t at least 6 months old. Did that change?

>> No.22185938

>>22185929
The server that’s blocked off to accounts that aren’t 6 months old is the /wg/ Discord, I think. AFAIK the &amp Discord is open to all accounts, regardless of account age, as long as they follow the rules.

>> No.22185945

>4 posters (now 5 because I threw my hat in the ring)
This shitty mag is still going? Is it just one guy writing under heteronyms like Pessoa? Sure seems like it with only 4 posters...

>> No.22186050

>>22185945
I work in a cellphone repair shop and regularly use the customer’s cellular data to have conversations with myself on 4chan. You’d be amazed how many threads on /lit/ are just me. Maybe &amp is similar.
-posted from an Indian woman’s Google Pixel 6a that has a constant screeching sound from the speakers

>> No.22186288

>>22185345
atlas calm down jesus

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>>22186288
She’s being all bitchy because she’s hungry for white cock.

>> No.22186824

Gardner woke up. Abandon thread.

>> No.22187175

>telling every that it really upsets you to have your threads sniped
I’m sure this will have no lasting consequences.

>> No.22187639

Bump

>> No.22188388

Bump

>> No.22188897

>>22187648
>>22188613
>Gardner is creating his own magazine
>has $70k in funding ready to go
What do I think of this?

>> No.22189486

>>22188897
I was gonna say this was cringe until I read that he was willing to pay contributors. That's actually pretty based.

>> No.22189964

>>22189486
>>22188897
Fine, I’ll bite Frank. How much are you paying?

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>>22189486
Let me guess, Frank is going to decide what is good enough for compensation. Kek. Here, let me go over this slowly: F Gardner has zero intention of founding any online or print periodical or anthology. None. He wanted to flex on me because one of the few limp criticisms he has against &amp is that we don’t pay contributors. Frank can be my guest. He doesn’t have anywhere near the sort of wherewithal necessary to start the thing, let alone actually do the thing.
But let’s imagine for a moment that he did find a decent team and did come up with a cool periodical or anthology. He will be paying contributors with his own money, and that will be that. After three years, I’ve finally made &amp ‘profitable’, which means that the $30 I get on Patreon every month finally covers the $20 monthly Canva bill, the $5 web hosting bill, with $5 (read ‘‘em and weep) for me to throw around when I go to town (I even decided to ‘pay’ contributors to the Mystery Anthology by offering them a copy of the book (rendering that project immediately into the red (depending on sales (which as you can imagine aren’t ever that substantial (though I’d like to know more about Tales’ Sales))))). It’s entirely possible that Frank is wealthy enough to not care whether his project net loses money(he is obviously used to losing money)—god knows I kept the magazine afloat just because I wanted to, for my sake—but he will capitulate to his own ego if anybody dares to call him a faggot, and then what? He has no skill. His ‘work’ has demonstrated clearly that he has no skill for design, editing, or composition. I might give him credit for the marketing he’s done, however his only skill in that regard is having enough money to consistently navigate 4chan’s terrible selfservice advertising interface meanwhile samefagging harder than any other human on god’s gray earth. In short, he is simply not made of the right stuff, chiefly, the ability to take his Ls with grace, and the ability to work with others. Frank does not want to collaborate. He’s never once contributed to &amp. I’ve asked countless times. He would rather sit back and let people bring him up, and now that the only dude hyping him up and attempting to convince people that he was /ourshill/—me—has openly called for his videotaped dismemberment, he wants to start a magazine. Kek. A hearty and visceral kek.

>> No.22190998

Bump

>> No.22191132

>>22190109
Do you get any money from people buying print editions or is that just wholly tossing cash at the print service?

>> No.22191342

>>22190109
>He’s never once contributed to &amp. I’ve asked countless times.
Why is each and every one of Frank’s diehard haters someone who he shooed off of his coattails?

>> No.22191664

>>22190109
>>22191230
>$40 per page of writing
Holy based.

>> No.22191709

>>22191342
nigga stop

>> No.22192124

>>22191342
On the contrary.

>> No.22192172

>>22192124
He invited you onto his coattails? What are you even attempting to imply with this?

>> No.22192593

>>22192172
How does someone with no respect, no fan base, and no revenue have coat tail? Did his dad buy him those too?

>> No.22193295

bump

>> No.22193399

>>22192593
If you add all the books together then Gardner is easily the most popular author we have. That’s probably why both Hartley and Unreal have been so desperate to have him signal boost their shitty mags.

>> No.22193448

>>22193399
You’ve jumped from the quantitative measure to the qualitative conclusion with no justification. He can have as many books as he wants, it doesn’t change the fact that no one buys them, no one reads them, no one has a single positive thing to say about them or him.
If someone crashes every party during their four years of high school, they don’t magically become popular. It’s about being liked, and no one like Frank at all

>> No.22193455

>>22193448
>It's about being liked
the absolute state of /lit/ rn

>> No.22193471

>>22193455
You used the word “popular” what do you think that means you stupid fuck?

>> No.22193495

>>22193471
>It's about being liked

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22193533

>>22193495
(You)

>> No.22193550

>>22191132
I don’t make money from print editions to keep the cost as low as possible however there’s no way to keep from giving money to the printers. They do a great job.
>>22193399
The hate for Gardner was a psyop to end the Unreal Doxing Drama. I’m actually in support of F Gardner’s new magazine. He messaged me on Trannycord and he’s decided to let me show him some stuff and do some design work. What can I say? If you can’t beat em, join em!

>> No.22194147

>>22193550
Bump

>> No.22194181

>>22193550
>he’s decided to let me show him some stuff and do some design work.
Hartley’s moving up bros. Coattails are within reach.

>> No.22194413

>>22193550
>If you can’t beat em, join em!
Huh? Does that mean his mag is actually real? Should I save my submission for Gardner’s instead? I wouldn’t mind getting paid $200 for something I thought I was doing for free.

>> No.22194820

>>22194413
>Should I save my submission for Gardner’s instead?
That's what I'm doing. So no, you shouldn't. I don't want you stealing my $400 payday.

>> No.22195224

What is this

>> No.22195267

>>22195224
A magazine made by anons from /lit/, been around for a few years now

>> No.22195878

>>22193471
>>22193448
>>22193533
Holy autism.

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>>22195878
>haha you’re le autistic

>> No.22196105

>>22194820
So what's the release date for Frank's magazine that is very real? And what is the submission link?

Certainly the release is soon since he's already been hyping it for some time and not some nebulous or distant date to excuse the lack of actual work being done.

>> No.22196181

>>22194413
>>22194820
Yeah man. Don’t bother submitting to crappy old &imp Fagazine anymore.
>>22196105 we’re just mocking up covers and names before we set up a website. This is going to be a big deal so realistically I’d say soft launch for August.
>>22194181
We ride!

>> No.22196330

>>22196181
>mocking up covers and names before we set up a website.
There isn't even going to be a name until August kek? At least have the dignity to come up with a false front

>> No.22196432

>>22196330
>>22196181
>>22196105
>>22195267
>>22194820
>>22194413
>>22194181
>>22193550
>>22193399
>>22190109
>>22191664
>>22196413

>> No.22196885

>>22196432
Gardner bros...

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>>22186288
letting her join &amp is the worst decision Hartleys ever made, musta been on crack when he did it, hes regretting it now that hes sobered up

>> No.22197168

>>22197099
Difference is that Lennon had yellow fever where Hartley has jungle fever

>> No.22197216

Fuck Keyword Magazine, &amp forever!!!

>> No.22197782

Gardner chads.. we lost…

>> No.22198386

Bump

>> No.22198413

It’s almost July, so we have a release date for the best of &amp yet?

>> No.22198704

>>22198413
July issue is being postponed a bit to focus on Keyword. It’s all hands on deck getting this shit ready for print. Even pulled Ari out of the best-of cuckshed for this. It’s gonna be big. Be excited.

>> No.22198927

>>22197168
Hartley is also like Lennon in that he enjoys beating women

>> No.22198958

>>22198927
Zulu is Ringo because they both picked a stupid name.

>> No.22199265

Never in my wildest dream would I have imagined the editor to be on his knees kissing Gardner’s feet so eagerly. This is pathetic.

>> No.22199291

>>22199265
Pretty sure it’s a ploy, he’s gearing up for another psyop like the fake hack before the last issue dropped. He’s gonna turn on Gardner and sabotage his shitty rag.

>> No.22199660

>>22198704
>Keyword
What is this?

>> No.22199812

>>22198413
July 7th release date

>> No.22199825

>>22199812
That’s for 017, not the best-of, unless they’re going to release together

>> No.22199842

What is this mental illness thread? Isnt the OP a homeless schizo junkie?
>ctrl F Gardner
Ah yes, another thread added to the filter.

>> No.22199939

>>22199812
LETS FUCKINF GOOOO
I am legitimately excited for the &amp best-of

>> No.22200617

bump

>> No.22201199

>>22198704
>best-of cuckshed

Why are you so obsessed with cucking? Is that your kink or something?

>> No.22201342

Steal this story:

A weapons researcher discovers the key to weaponizing non-Newtonian fluids through energetic polymer ballistics. Explore the potential consequences of this discovery.

>> No.22202499

>>22201199
Yeah it's the most literary fetish

>> No.22202524

>>22201342
Cum is a non-Newtonian fluid

>> No.22202539

>>22190109
Where do you get these printed?

Beautiful covers! That is mint. Hard to believe nobody else gives you props for the quality of the design.

>> No.22202548

>>22199939
I was just in Vancouver for a few days

Definitely want to buy some mags in person at some point, this summer would be great as I am definitely making it back to Vancouver at least once this year.

>> No.22202750

>>22202548
Don’t forget to pay Jason Bryan a visit. He’s living in the tent encampment along East Hastings.

>> No.22202798

>>22202750
lol!

>> No.22202839

>>22202750
Honestly the wifi in my tent is pretty good and I have a mickey of polar ice vodka, my kid is set for life with a fat inheritance coming... life on east hastings isn't so bad!

>> No.22202883

>>22202839
Sure Jason.. that porn site is gonna make you a millionaire.

>> No.22202934

What litmags do you read/submit to, anon?
I only follow local ones but I would like to hear of any litmags that you guys have a soft spot for.

>> No.22202952

>>22202883
For a half-assed astronaut, life is pretty good

>> No.22202966

>>22202934
only &amp

>> No.22203192

>>22202934
Alaska Quarterly is very apolitical and lit.

>> No.22203396

>>22202934
American Short Fiction
New Ohio Review
The Sun Magazine
A Public Space Magazine
Missouri Review
The Sewanee Review
Yale Review
Iowa Review
Agni Online
Sonora Review
Augur Mazine
The Atlantic

There's a few others you can find that publish more regional stories and authors, like Oxford American.

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>>22203396
>Augur Mazine
Pulled this one and they only lowered themselves to include one white male author (likely gay) out of all twenty accepted submissions.

But I'm sure The Atlantic will be tripping over themselves to publish you!

>> No.22203523

>>22202839
Damn Jason, I said that as a joke. I didn't think you were actually down that bad.

>> No.22203534

>>22203422
I don't submit to the Atlantic, I just read it.

>> No.22203979

>>22203422
The only way to get published is to transition. If it worked for John David Card, it’ll work for anyone.

>> No.22203991

>>22203396
aren't most of those woke publications?

>> No.22204006

>>22203523
I have the biggest tent on the block and I have a deal to trade 4 stolen bikes for an AC unit coming up

>> No.22204177

>>22203991
Most publications are.

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>>22203979
It’s Johanna Davina Card now, don’t deadname her

>> No.22204509

>>22203991
If you meant counter culture, Three Penny, Sonora and Augur are alternatives.

>> No.22204619

Bump

>> No.22204632

>entire thread is just gay drama
>Gardner seething/praising
>unironic discord screenshots
I’ve never paid attention to this &amp junk before and I’m no better for glancing at it now.

>> No.22204899

>>22204632
They hate us cuz they ain't us

>> No.22205357

>>22204632
&amp has been an absolute disaster for the last two months. Everyone is just waiting for the drama to die down but certain retards within &amp keep enflaming it.

>> No.22205383

>>22205357
>certain retards within &amp

you mean the crazy bitch that Hartley put in charge of the next issue? or Hartley himself?

>> No.22205445

>>22205383
Whichever one keeps fighting with Gardner.
This shit could have been over two weeks ago if they had just ignored the drama and moved on. For the past two months this whole thing has been a trash heap where the only things discussed are which namefag is mad at which namefag. Boy I wonder how this namefag feels about this recent development. It truly is over for this namefag.
Who gives a fuck? This is just Jerry Springer/Kiwifarms bullshit. Publish the fucking stories. Find a nice font, throw it on a gaussian blurred backdrop and shut the fuck up about your petty problems. All you're doing is drawing attention to the worst parts of /lit/ authors.

>> No.22205454

>>22205445
Stop seething and go back to your best-of cuckshed Ari, times a’wastin

>> No.22205506

>>22205445
It’s all for the lulz, old sport. Be a prince and give us a smile.

>> No.22205523

>>22205454
I'm not Ari, but if that's what Ari is saying then he is correct and he's earned my respect as the only sane person left at &amp.
Seriously, what did Gardner do that would warrant tanking your own mag in a quest for retribution? There isn't a single person on /lit/ who looks at you guys in a better light than they did two months ago. This entire thing has been loss after loss after loss. Cut these losses and move on.

>> No.22205529

>>22205523
The Gardner shit was editor’s attempt to end the previous discord tyranny drama by giving the masses a new target. A scapegoat, if you will.

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>>22205523
>I’m not Ari

Try harder next time.

>> No.22205556

>>22205529
I literally do not give a single fuck about your four dimensional backgammon. You guys could reveal that this entire saga was an elaborate expose on a 1200 man trolling operation and that this expose will result in the shutdown of Kiwifarms and I would still roll my eyes at you.
You've got one job. Print the fucking stories. Everything before and after that should be you shutting the fuck up. Everything that has been done as an alternative to shutting the fuck up has been a net negative for /lit/ authors.

>>22205549
>using GIMP
Respect retracted. Only a retard would use GIMP when CC2019 can be pirated so easily.

>> No.22205644
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>>22205556
> Unironically favoring proprietary software

>> No.22205651

>>22205556
>Everything that has been done as an alternative to shutting the fuck up has been a net negative for /lit/ authors.
All press is good press. Fuck off Ari.

>> No.22205754

>>22205454
>>22205651
Why so much hate towards Ari in these threads? He did good work on the best of and people repay that by shittalking him and calling him a cuck? It’s time to stop.

>> No.22205836

>>22205644
Draw me a circle. Right now.

>>22205651
It's not good press. What you are doing is creating narratives around you. That is it. The people who are interested in those narratives are not going to read your magazine and they are certainly not going to contribute anything you want them to contribute. They are here for the drama, and when that drama dies down they will fuel it. I have seen this shit countless times, and, more importantly, I have seen how far they are willing to escalate for entertainment's sake.
You are not going to be so smug about "good press" when Kiwifarms takes an interest in you. Those on here who fuck with you consider you a joke. Those on Kiwifarms who fuck with you will, by default, consider you a pedophile, and they will treat you as such.
The fact of this matter is that you guys are bordering on lowcowdom. You are attention hungry, failed artists who have branded yourselves after a notorious anonymous imageboard, and to top that off, the only entertaining thing you've produced is concentrated entirely around discord infighting. They will have a field day with you. If you try to play this same game of "good press" with Kiwifarms you will only grow this audience, and when this audience grows to include the likes of /cow/ or /baph/ you will get the attention you deserve, and you will not like it.

>> No.22206118

>>22205836
You’re not going to convince them to stop being lolcows through facts and logic. They’ll fix it if they want to.
I’m fine with either outcome. Obviously I don’t want /lit/ authors to fail, but if they’re going to fail they’d may as well go up in flames. No one ever eulogizes a failed artist who stuck to the shadows. My concern is that they’re going to drag us all down with them.

>> No.22206241

>>22204899
Checked.

>> No.22206442

bump

>> No.22206835

Smile for us Ari. Stop your seething and smile.

>> No.22207231

>>22185246
Remember back when &amp was like just some cool anonymous place where anons would send stories and then they'd get converted into a fun project by other anons? Glad that shit's gone, it's way more fun to watch idiots assign themselves job titles and pick fights with retards. I swear to god this /lit/ renaissance shit will be used as some kind of psychological case study one day, the first example of someone attempting to create a parasocial relationship with themselves.

>> No.22207250

>>22207231
Lmao good post. Looking forward to the next issue so we can get back to talking about people's writing and not this weird cyber sitcom.

>> No.22207260

>>22207231
As usual, I'm blaming all of these problems on Discord.

>> No.22207620

>>22205556
No see, my job is to have fun at your expense. Your job is to cope and seethe.
>>22207260
There are no problems, just some salty individuals who can’t stand to see Gardner get cyberbullied.

>> No.22207677

>>22207231
It’s a troll making these threads impersonating &amp staff attempting to delay the next issue. And only one person around here hates &amp.

>> No.22207679

>>22207620
>just some salty individuals who can’t stand to see Gardner get cyberbullied.
Even if such a person existed, that doesn't even come close to describing me. You can bully Gardner to your heart's content. I do not care. I've probably bullied him more than you have.
My only concern is that you are drawing the attention of people who we /lit/ authors are very lucky to have not caught the attention of thus far. To these people, you and Gardner are one degree of separation apart. They will not side with you. They will not read your magazine. They will not become fans. They will dox Gardner, then they will dox you, then they will dox the people who contribute to your magazine and then they will move onto /wg/; and when they are done, a worse group will take over.
It takes a certain type of person to take up the mantle of "4chan author". That person, at least from what I've seen of those of you have been doxed so far, are complete jokes who can be made into wonderful content. I want to see that avoided. Now stop your chad larp and do something that isn't continuing to embarrass us.

>> No.22207952

>>22207677
Imagine losing to Gardner this badly.

>> No.22207990

>>22207679
Like I said, you continue to seethe, and I’ll continue to lulz at you. Nobody has done anything but sit back and watch Frank get upset. Nobody cares but you. Nothing is actually happening here, it’s just four or five guys making fun of Frank. And you.

>> No.22207993

>>22207952
>imagine actually being Francis Edward Gardner this badly

>> No.22208068

>>22207679
Is this a threat?

>> No.22208082

>>22207990
I don’t see anything seething in his post. That seems like a legitimate concern to me. I know I don’t want to be doxed because of a petty shit flinging contest with Gardner.

>> No.22208086

>>22208082
Yeah that anon is reasonable, Amp anon is being a fag

>> No.22208096

>>22208068
>Is this a threat?
Are you retarded? No it’s not a threat. I have no sway in whether this happens to you or not. If you want to draw the attention of Kiwifarms, be my guest. I’m not going to do that for you, but I’m also not going to come running to your defence.

>> No.22208126

>>22208096
I'm a random contributor to amp relax, I think this shit flinging is gay as fuck. I agree with you.

>> No.22208210

>>22207679
>>22206118
>>22205836
Fuck you pussy. Send them. Make an account and make a thread on us right now. Do it. I'll have those faggots eating out of my hand. All you'll be doing is giving me own personal army. Type it up and press the fucking enter key. Do it.

>> No.22208568

>>22208126
>>22208096
>>22208082
Hol up. You’re worried that if I continue calling Gardner a samefagging pseud, that you’ll be doxxed? Am I missing something?

>> No.22209165

>>22208568
It's less the name calling and more the storylines that you guys are building.
>Zulu being kicked out of his home because his dad got a new girlfriend.
>Hartley being a homeless wife beater
>Gardner a mentally ill attention whore who is only alive because of his father's wealth
>the entire Unreal Press opera that we sat through last month
>Atlas being fucking insane
>Ari being a malicious 200IQ mastermind that has planned everything thus far
These storylines are attracting a certain type of troll to these threads, one that feeds on the negative energy of your interactions with one another. Combine your continued spats with the fact that you are all pathetic losers who have assigned yourselves as the face of 4chan and you have a recipe for a lolcow. You will attract the type of people who want you doxed.

>> No.22209283

>>22209165
You seem concerned. We know that none of those things are true. Maybe log off for a bit. We’re all just having fun.

>> No.22209446

>>22209165
You do realize they're playing dumb to stimulate more discussion of the drama, right?

>> No.22209503

>>22209283
>We know that none of those things are true.
Doesn't matter if they're true or not. If the truth is inconvenient to entertainment then the truth can be twisted. Half the shit on Kiwifarms is a series of hyperbolic half-truths. Your story so far is entertaining enough without those, imagine what it'll look like when they're done writing it.

>>22209446
Sadly, that wouldn't surprise me. They seem to be riding high on the fact that they're not currently the biggest laughingstock on /lit/.

>> No.22209728

>>22209503
>>22209165
The only saving grace is that KF has signups blocked still. Unless one of you shits has an account we’ll likely not get a thread on us.

>> No.22209815

>>22185246
>SUB now
>SUB to &amp
>SUB now (again)
>SUB but flipped over and big
wow. so brilliant. i’m sure you dilettante fags will get somewhere eventually

>> No.22209853

>>22209815
oh and btw “Aden Luz Rienspects” is the faggiest of all fag dilettantes
>As Camile Paglia notes, the climax was invented as a reflection of the male ejaculation. It’s kind of gay when you think about it.
>I have spent more than two grand on a series of Victorian sconces, menorahs, and candelabras. It is a constant drain on my income, but I regularly write by candlelight alone. Usually there’s a small plate of frozen mangoes nearby, and Lana Del Rey is playing in the background.
>”liminality” ad nauseam
>Harmony Korine ad dickridium
>Honestly, I only want Mixtape Hyperborea to be read by dudes with huge cocks and cool cars.
first time I decide to read this project and this is what you’re accepting for submissions? fuck you and fuck that wee little prick if I see him in the street I’ll take one of his Victorian menorahs and beat him over the head with it til his brain looks like warped mixtape cassette

>> No.22209878

>>22209853
Pure poetry. I’m screencapping this for 017.

>> No.22210153

>>22209853
>Usually there’s a small plate of frozen mangoes nearby, and Lana Del Rey is playing in the background.
Random access humor.

>> No.22210592

>>22209815
Hey! Don’t forget the reduced opacity crosses. Each one of those took Atlas ten minutes to make. Granted, 90% of that time was dedicated to hysterical screaming over Ari, but still, she poured her heart and soul into those.

>> No.22210805

>>22210592
Editor anon made that image, it’s obviously his style.

>> No.22210845

>>22210592
It literally has &yan at the top which is a &amp style spelling of “Ryan.” Hartley even put his signature on it.

>> No.22210886

>>22210845
>>22210805
Don’t care. Stop responding to jokes so literally.
Also, grabbing an image off of Pexels and throwing on a default font with random kerning is not a “style”. It’s the the type of shit grade school girls are making on their fucking phones.

>> No.22211337

>>22210845
>&yan = ryan
Cringe. I was willing to accept that the ampersand was a stylized cursive L but this is too much.

>> No.22211994

bump

>> No.22212796

So it was Boswell behind all of this anti-frank stuff? >>22212781
What a pathetic retard. He was just going to let &amp take the fall for his tantrum.

>> No.22212903

>>22212796
An excellent quote from that thread

>The last two months of &amp has been a group of discord faggots doxing each other. If you hung around the threads at all you'd probably have seen a mustachioed Cannuck and his cum covered ex-GF. All of these people have Discord brain rot.

>> No.22213313

It’s July, so when is the best of &amp gonna drop?

>> No.22213349

>>22185297
I only click on these threads to watch the immature infighting between retards who think they can behave like this and maintain a literary magazine.

>> No.22213362

>>22213349
And you’re going to show us how it’s done I presume? Or are you just here to bitch and complain that we’re not meeting your standards?

>> No.22213383

>>22213313
Best-of is vaporware. Looks like Ari permanently retired to his cuckshed after editor-kun announced that he’d chosen Atlas to guestedit &amp 17. Hopefully editor-kun will finish the best-of himself and release it soon.

>> No.22213399

>>22213362
>And you’re going to show us how it’s done I presume?
Kek, no. I'm not a fan of reality shows but this one is good in small doses.
>Or are you just here to bitch and complain that we’re not meeting your standards?
I told you: I'm here to watch the infighting and laugh. You're more than meeting those standards.

>> No.22213663

>>22213383
lol, hes a lil pussy bitch ass nigga

>> No.22214149

>>22213383
Fake news. Best of &amp is still on the way. Ari will get it done.

>> No.22214532

>>22214149
And you know this how?

>> No.22214631

>>22214149
Aricucks are living in denial desu. It’s over.

>> No.22215144

What kind of content is planned for the July issue? Give us a sneak peak.

>> No.22215257

>>22215144
I was told the transcript of me reading bedtime stories to my daughter with my schizo footnotes would be included.

>> No.22215337

>>22215144
The issue finale is going to be &amp’s first foray into investigative journalism, plus an exclusive interview with MNM-DR. It’ll be a wild ride.

>> No.22215516

>>22215337
>an exclusive interview with MNM-DR
Cool. Maybe it will convince me to read the rest of BAS. I dropped it after he started smearing shit on the walls.
>&amp’s first foray into investigative journalism
Is this related to the ongoing drama or something unrelated?

>> No.22215549

>>22215516
>related to the ongoing drama
If the shit in this thread starts bleeding into the mag then I'm out. The vague disavowal of last issue was almost classy. I hope it's never acknowledged again beyond that.

>> No.22215589

>>22215516
>>22215549

Don’t worry, the investigative piece is unrelated to the ongoing drama in the &amp threads—it chronicles us doing some digging into a bizarre years-long saga of events connected to MNM-DR. I won’t say too much since I don’t want to spoil it, but it involves a case of disputed identity and some very wild allegations.

>> No.22215607

>>22215589
Based. I actually remember a thread a couple years back about that. Something about some schizo woman thinking he's a big shot doctor or something like that.

>> No.22216109

>>22215589
Very based, can’t wait

>> No.22216605

>>22215337
Who the fug is MNM DR?

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>>22216605
when did i agree to an interview?
my only regret is i wish i'd used more n-words

>> No.22216822

>>22216809
It was more of a…tacit agreement, shall we say. I can DM you the quotes I’m going to use if there’s anything you’d like to change or add.

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>>22216822
no...it was a very organic conversation and i enjoyed the exchange...go do your thing

>> No.22217121

>>22216871
I hate this image.

>> No.22217373

>>22214631
I believe in Ari and the Ari bros. The best of will shine so bright that it forces Unreal clamoring back to their discord.

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>>22217121
such is life

>> No.22217690

Does anyone know who wrote Mademoiselle, the story about the DVD of a cat's memories a few issues back?

If this was you, please drop your contact details in the thread, would love to get in touch.

>> No.22218366

>>22217373
there are no ari bros. get back to work.

>> No.22219243

>>22217690
Damn I wish someone wanted to talk about my stuff. Need to step up.

>> No.22219378

>>22219243
What submissions did you write? I can give you some thoughts on them

>> No.22219565

>>22219378
No thanks, I don't want to beg. I will wait for issue 017 to drop. I plan to keep submitting. This weekend I want to start writing something for &amp standard too, if that every becomes a thing.

>> No.22219918

>>22219565
Don’t be a fucking pussy just tell us

>> No.22220403

>>22218366
I'm an Ari bro. I can appreciate the fact that when he had drama with Atlas he put the mag first and didn't put up a stink about it. Even now, with all the shit you guys put him through, he's not doing anything to stoke the drama. Seems like the most based person around here.

>> No.22220415

>>22220403
He put up a massive stink about his drama with Atlas in the Unreal server which is what started all of this shit in the first place, and he was the one who doxxed her and did the cum edit. He’s absolutely been stoking the drama.

>> No.22220436

Idk what the fuck is happening in this thread, but I have to suck the skin off the dick of Jack Norman. No Adonis was another elaboration of middle class ennui, but that sumbitch was tightly written. Mad respect. I've read a lot of output from this board in various publications. Standout. The voice dropped in certain passages (liveleak video?), and the final note of the narrative is a little cliche, but overall a quality piece that held my attention enough to read it straight through.

>> No.22220464

>>22220403
>not doing anything
Well you got that part right

>> No.22220507

>>22220403
stfu ari, stop samefagging and start working on the best of

>> No.22220554

>>22220415
>he was the one who doxxed her and did the cum edit.
No he wasn't. And even if he did get angry about being doxed, he was justified in doing so. He was doxed for no good reason.
And what did his anger amount to? He didn't dox anyone in return. Is making you look bad a crime?

>>22220464
>>22220507
>seethe
Expected.

>> No.22220569

>>22220554
He put up a stink about his drama with her in our server for months before he was ever doxxed. He derailed our server bitching about her constantly until people got sick of his shit and doxxed him.

>> No.22220579

>>22220569
He still didn't dox her and he still didn't dox any of you in retaliation. You guys are in the wrong, not him. I don't care about your discord.

>> No.22220584

>>22220554
>No he wasn’t

It’s obvious that he was. None of us gave a shit about her, the only one who actually hated her enough to do something like that was him. Plus he was the only one who had easy access to her personal info

>> No.22220597

>>22220584
>Plus he was the only one who had easy access to her personal info
But none of the information posted was actually personal, was it? It was just an image you got from her Twitter that she used one of her pseudonyms with. If Ari actually doxed her we'd know way more than just that. He knew everything about her. Heck, he probably had nudes of her. Where are those? If he hates her so much why is the only thing posted something that you would have easy access to?

>> No.22220704

>>22220597
He did that because he wanted to blame it on us, obviously. If he posted private photos that she’d only sent to him then everyone would know he was the culprit, plus he’d be setting himself up for revenge porn charges. By just posting pics from her Twitter he could fuck with her while maintaining plausible deniability.

>> No.22220736

>>22220597
you literally threatened to post her address and posted a partial facebook photo, fuck off ari

>> No.22220864

>>22220736
Did he really do that? What an asshole.

>> No.22220880

can’t wait for the july issue to drop

>> No.22220958

>>22217690
Bump

>> No.22220966

This >>22213349

>> No.22220977

>>22213349
Not only this, but all the good stuff is written by random anons who have nothing to do with putting it together

>> No.22221009

>>22220704
Literally insane. I don’t know how you can type something like this up and press enter.

>>22220736
Not true at all. Link the post.

>> No.22221057

>>22221009
It’s not insane, it’s completely plausible. Not gonna link her doxx and spread it around even more but it was in a May &amp thread

>> No.22221069

>>22221057
Link the exact post where he said that. You can’t because you’re lying.

>> No.22221079

>>22221069
>>/lit/thread/21992135#p22004871

>> No.22221085

>>22221069
fucking moron, now fuck off ari

>> No.22221087

>>22221079
Nothing there points to that being Ari’s doing. No evidence of her Facebook even being found. That picture isn’t even of her. Try another.

>> No.22221098

>>22221087
>Nothing there points to that being Ari’s doing
Who else would have access to her Facebook? Her last name was never shared publicly afaik

>That picture isn’t even of her
It certainly looks like her. How do you know it’s not? You’re just in denial at this point.

>> No.22221118

>>22221098
It’s not her. Whoever said they found her Facebook is larping.

>> No.22221123

>>22221118
>It’s not her

Again, how do you know? The pic that was posted looks a lot like her other photo.

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>>22221118
>>22221123
Jesus, shut the fuck up.

>> No.22221130

>>22221118
>>22221123
quit doing this shit on here and take it to dms

>> No.22221142

>>22221126
fuck off ari, everyone in these threads should know what a pos you are

>> No.22221193
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22221193

Hey guys just dropping in to talk about a great book that I read recently. Check it out I heard the writer is a bit cuckoo.

>> No.22221261

Please have more James Krake stories next time thanks

>> No.22221263

>>22221261
Kys Krakecuck

>> No.22221266

>>22221263
He’s the best writer 4chan has ever produced he understands the people and excitement

>> No.22221279

>>22221266
Krake is a talentless semi-retarded genrefag

>> No.22221287

>>22221279
Yes he writes for the people he’s doing more for humanity then literary fiction he makes peoples lives betterb

>> No.22221558

Bump

>> No.22222187

Bump

>> No.22222196

Gardner making these fake threads -- just like he's been making the fake analgens on /d/ -- to fuck with people! baka

>> No.22222233

>>22222196
Gardner bad dragon-fag confirmed

>> No.22222561

>>22220403
>Ari blatantly samefagging to pretend that people still support him and his abandoned project

Cringe. Just take your L and move on

>> No.22222649

James Krake is amazing

>> No.22222685

>>22222649
No he’s not. We don’t Kr*ke around here. Stop bringing yourself up.

>> No.22222698

>>22222685
Not Krake just an innocent fan I love his books and his cute youtube account

>> No.22222708

>>22222698
Stop bringing yourself up.

>> No.22222893

James Krake is wonderful and my hero. Ship of Fuls is one of my favorites and Faceless is amazing

>> No.22223035

I love James Krake

>> No.22223161

Where are the jannies? The Krake samefag needs to be banned for spamming

>> No.22223201

>>22223161
>it must be a samefag
Can't you just realize he's popular and people want to read him

>> No.22223311

>>22223201
Fuck off shill

>> No.22223326

>>22223311
cope Krake is the best Gardner is the worst

>> No.22223564

>>22223326
KYS

>> No.22223709

Not that anon but Krake is genuinely one of the better authors out there in the /lit/ scene. I seriously recommend his YT channel as well as it's far and away better than anything Unreal has done.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMJSPGrqmIw&ab_channel=JamesKrake

>> No.22223741

>>22223709
Lol he’s an ugly ass neckbeard

>> No.22223747

Crazed fan of "Call Of United Airlines" tries to act out the book's plot on a real airplane:
https://nypost.com/2023/07/04/woman-has-epic-meltdown-over-not-real-passenger-on-american-airlines-flight-im-getting-the-fk-off/

>> No.22223763

>>22223741
fuck off unrealcuck shill

>> No.22223808

>>22223709
why do u not shave

>> No.22223894

Why does Unreal hate Krake so much now?

>> No.22223897

>>22223894
No one hates Krake, we just hate just his constant retarded shilling

>> No.22224012

>>22223894
Krake made his bed by siding with Gardner. He wants to submit his slop to Gardner for a little spending money, he can. He can also get what he fucking deserves.

>> No.22224020

>>22223894
He wouldn't share his dog with them.

>> No.22224024

Krake is big and Handsome he’s such a good lover I love my big teddy bear and his stories he protects me

>> No.22224028
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>>22224024
stop

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>>22224012
too soon

>> No.22224030

>>22223894
Krake is a Labrador nigga while unreal are sighthound CHADS

>> No.22224037

>>22224030
Is it true that James Krake and F Gardner are members of an underground dog sex society like in eyes wide shut

>> No.22224039

JAMES KRAKE HAS SEX WITH DOGS

>> No.22224049

>>22223894
Krake told them to stop doxing Ari. Them continuing to dox Ari is the reason he left Unreal.

>> No.22224050

>>22224039
No he doesn’t fuck off stop slandering good writing to promote your shit zine

>> No.22224068

None of these lies will stop me from loving James Krake

>> No.22224069

James Krake is gay for dogs

>> No.22224072

James Krake is a big strong cutie

>> No.22224087

Mods not nuking this thread and everyone in it is a sign there is no god.

>> No.22224093

Krake is the best writer on /lit/ Gardner is the worst

>> No.22224096

>Number of posters have not changed the last five posts.

>> No.22224111

>>22224096
>people can only post one per thread
Put on a trip so I can filter you

>> No.22224156

>>22224087
I hope Unreal and &amp keep this up, if only for the singular fact that their tantrums are going to lead to the "/lit/ author" being something that is quarantined to a single general. The self assigned author is a plague on this board that the average /lit/ user is growing tired of.

>> No.22224174

>>22224156
oh you silly silly crab... This is the beginning of the /lit/ renaissance.

>> No.22224184

>>22224156
Filtered by Krake Fucking retard

>> No.22224237

>Unreal: An Amped Shitshow
Someone do a "Previously On..." for all the drama these retards have been sperging for the last couple of months. QRD for those just joining this mess.

>> No.22224272

>>22224237
The only thing you need to know is that Unreal are insane discord trannies that should have been range banned months ago. Anything more than that is just a cognitohazard.

>> No.22224355

>>22224237
Can someone please slot all of these archived drama threads into a text ai and then ask it to summarize the drama in the form of a long form poem

>> No.22224360

>>22224237
Everyone is jealous of James Krake

>> No.22224363

What the fuck happened? 015 was so good and the threads were great, full of people interpreting work, reviewing, critiquing etc.

016 dropped and now it’s straight up cancer

>> No.22224370

>>22224363
It’s Ari’s fault

>> No.22224375

>>22224363
>What the fuck happened?
We were given a harsh reminder that Discord trannies are not to be tolerated.

>> No.22224380

>>22224370
>>22224375
this

>> No.22224390

>>22224363
A new force named James Krake came along and it brought haters with it

>> No.22224404

You could date a handsome conservative scientist in his 20s with great hair or the typical discord tranny. The choice is yours it’s obvious that all the ladies want me.

>> No.22224408

>>22224404
Him*

>> No.22224415

>>22224363
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmeou8BM7vU&ab_channel=ChannelAwesome

>> No.22224420

I’m strong I’m sexy I got great hair and a big cock. Women want me and men want to be him. I’m sick of the jealousy for James Krake on these threads.

>> No.22224431

I read kgb agents and fell in love with James Krake how do I contact this man

>> No.22224432

>>22224390
Krake was featured in 015. I rated his piece 7/10.

>> No.22224439

>>22224432
Because you’re a fucking retard who got filtered so why don’t you go back to whatever pit you came from retard it’s a 10/10

>> No.22224457

>>22224432
Dumb faggot stop posting

>> No.22224466

>>22224432
Fuck off retarded nigger

>> No.22224473

>>22224432
Bitch

>> No.22224481

>>22224432
Correction:

I gave it 8/10
>>/lit/thread/21730168#p21743179

>> No.22224482

>>22224432
That rating was generous. It’s a 3/10 for me.

>> No.22224489

>>22224481
>coward tries to undo his rating by sucking up
Still too low retard

>> No.22224493

>>22224482
Obvious troll he’s objectively brilliant

>> No.22224502

One of the most prolific writers of our generation is bad because I’m jealous lmao at this state

>> No.22224538

>>22224502
The most prolific writers are raking in 60k a year writing cultivation webnovels

>> No.22224545

>>22224538
Quality over quantity Krake has daring politics anyway

>> No.22224561

Unreal are using the Krake spam to take the heat off of themselves. They did the same thing with Ari, Atlas and Gardner.

>> No.22224565

>>22224561
Or maybe you’re just jealous of an actually talented writer

>> No.22224568

>>22224561
Fuck off unrealie Krake is actually talented and kind not a backstabbing doxxer tranny

>> No.22224570

>>22224561
Unreal is just seething Krake submitted self-admitted junk to their anthology and it was one of the better stories. You'd be insulted to if you were told he didnt think your anthology would sell to anyone other than the contributors.

>> No.22224579

>>22224561
Krake is actually a good writer and we like discussing him not cringe publications like unreal

>> No.22224582

>>22224579
>>22224570
>>22224568
>>22224565
gay.

>> No.22224587

This is what Krake gets for trying to avoid the drama.

>> No.22224597

>>22224587
Or maybe we just like talking about good writing for once

>> No.22224601

>>22224600
New thread so no one snipes it again.

>> No.22224751

>>22220403
finna stop talking about the drama and finna start talking about the writing

>> No.22224807

>>22224751
Agreed let’s talk about masterpieces like Ship of Fuls and Five to Four

>> No.22224838

>>22224807
for serious i was shocked how chinky he looks

>> No.22226099

Does &amp have any themes or prompts for submissions? I like some restraints.

>> No.22226361

>>22226099
you can check out the 'Steal These Stories' sections (prompts basically) at the beginning of most issues.