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Finally, after seemingly endless decades of waiting, America can celebrate the death of Cormac McCarthy, the worst novelist ever.

McCarthy was known for such repulsive hack tripe as “Blood Meridian” and “The Road.” Along with edgy and predictable shock shlock, he also wrote kiddie romance novels.

Born to an Irish Catholic family, McCarthy, like many of his ilk, joined the Jews to help them destroy everything. Reading a Cormac McCarthy novel is humiliating and brings deep shame on a person. As you read the foul and unnatural arrangement of words, you feel as though McCarthy might as well have just broken into your house at night and pissed in your face while you’re sleeping.

Everything he wrote was utter garbage. It was sold to stupid peasants because it was simplistically written and filled with titillating scenes of violence and depravity.

For example, in “The Road,” you have a post-apocalypse scene where a father and son are traveling. At one point, they are hiding in a ditch from roving rapist cannibals, and the father holds a gun in his son’s mouth, telling him to pull the trigger if anyone sees him.

The underlying message of his work is that everything is completely meaningless – except kiddie style romantic love (i.e., sexual infatuation).

Why would such work exist? We are supposed to believe this man was some kind of genius because he was depraved? Are we to believe that the great writers of history couldn’t have written such disgusting scenes, if they had lacked all morals?

I will tell you this: virtually anyone with a sick mind and fifth grade writing skills could have written this gross, saccharine, self-indulgent, and above all repetitive prose. When you look at the “edgy” syntax, you are reaching below the fifth grade level. Any moron with a thesaurus can write broken sentences without correct punctuation. Mixing transgressive imagery with an assault on the written language, and underwriting it with themes of nihilism and blasphemy, should have been viewed as an abomination, an affront to God and man. Yet this worm was given awards, and he was given a top place in the literary hierarchy by the odious Jew Harold Bloom and his cult.

McCarthy was handsome as a young man, which no doubt played a role in his success, which was largely among women. However, if you were to see his soul – as Satan is now seeing it in Hell – it would look ratlike, like the startling visage of Bloom. The people who work in this Jewish system, perpetuating the Jews’ agenda, take on the radical Jewish spirit, and it swallows their humanity.

1/2

>> No.22169546

If you are an educated man looking at his body of work, you realize that he never learned basic sentence structure. He leaned on “stylistics” in the same way we are supposed to believe abstract artists are real artists that only choose to create works that look like they were produced by children because they are so smart. It was truly an “emperor has no clothes” situation, where a dim-witted pervert is writing like a child and everyone was looking around at each other, seeing if anyone else noticed that this “celebrated” work was absurdly, uniquely primitive.

The one thing that McCarthy spawned that was potentially worthwhile was the Coen Brothers’ film adaptation of “No Country for Old Men.” This was also likely McCarthy’s best novel, though it was still garbage, featuring crime novel tropes that were largely pulled whole cloth from Elmore Leonard and then made more gross. The Coen Brothers film was so cinematically stylistic, however, that the source material was virtually irrelevant. There are thousands of crime novels – two dozen from Leonard alone – that could have served as the jumping off point for the same film.

In some ways, McCarthy was the logical end point of American literature, following William Faulkner and Ernest Hemingway. These are complete hacks, one after the other. Of course, after McCarthy, there was no lower you could fall, so popular literature has largely simply ended.

In the wake of his death at home in Mexico at the age of 89, the Jewish American media is celebrating McCarthy as one of the greatest American novelists. Some of these people are calling him the single greatest of all. This should not surprise anyone.

In some ways, McCarthy was the logical end point of American literature, following William Faulkner and Ernest Hemingway. These are complete hacks, one after the other. Of course, after McCarthy, there was no lower you could fall, so popular literature has largely simply ended.

In the wake of his death at home in Mexico at the age of 89, the Jewish American media is celebrating McCarthy as one of the greatest American novelists. Some of these people are calling him the single greatest of all. This should not surprise anyone.

The reality is that most of the greatest novelists were Russian. Moby Dick is the only American novel that compares with the Russian greats. There are no good modern novelists, except for Michel Houellebecq. The problem is, there is no meaning to life anymore, so there is nothing really to write about.

What I will say of the dead bastard and fiend McCarthy is this: he certainly embodied the spirit of the age.

https://dailystormer.in/cormac-mccarthy-finally-dead/

>> No.22169547

>>22169541
No one cares to read your blog, pseud.

>> No.22169549

Go back to /tv/

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>>22169541
>t. manlet

>> No.22169582

>>22169547
McCarthy is dead and that’s the best you can do?
Do you call that an effort post?

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>>22169541
>>22169546
Reminder: Andrew Anglin is a bald ginger manlet who would have been too short to even join the SS, kek.

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>>22169582
>Do you call that an effort post?
No effort required. Andrew is a manlet.

>> No.22169602

>>22169541
Anglin is an embarrassment.

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>>22169602
>Anglin is an embarrassment.
Kek, yeah. Look how little he is.

>> No.22169610

>>22169601
>>22169602
>>22169583
And yet, his articles can be readily enjoyed without someone else to talk you into liking them.

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>>22169583
>>22169601
>>22169607
>>22169610
>basedboy leftist transitions into schizo nazi as a result of untreated mental illness
many such cases!

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>>22169610
>And yet, his articles can be readily enjoyed without someone else to talk you into liking them.
Cool. Then you have no reason to keep spamming them unless you want more lil' Andy memes.

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>>22169628
>friends in high school report that his behavior changed during his sophomore year
That explains everything. He realized he wasn't going to get that growth spurt. Look how giant the hat is on him, kek.

>> No.22169655

>>22169628
“I will tell you this:” Anglin’s attacks on McCarthy are 1000x more entertaining and substantive than ///lit///s attacks on Anglin, which is just one attack repeated several times.

>virtually anyone with a sick mind and fifth grade writing skills could have written this gross, saccharine, self-indulgent, and above all repetitive prose. When you look at the “edgy” syntax, you are reaching below the fifth grade level. Any moron with a thesaurus can write broken sentences without correct punctuation. Mixing transgressive imagery with an assault on the written language, and underwriting it with themes of nihilism and blasphemy, should have been viewed as an abomination, an affront to God and man. Yet this worm was given awards, and he was given a top place in the literary hierarchy by the odious Jew Harold Bloom and his cult.

McCarthy was handsome as a young man, which no doubt played a role in his success, which was largely among women. However, if you were to see his soul – as Satan is now seeing it in Hell – it would look ratlike, like the startling visage of Bloom.

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>>22169628
>JNCOs-wearing
>>22169655
>“I will tell you this:” Anglin’s attacks on McCarthy are 1000x more entertaining and substantive than ///lit///s attacks on Anglin
He's a manlet who wore JNCOs, kek.

>> No.22169696

>>22169655
Cormac's books may have been shit but he was a functional adult who had a successful career. This faggot is nothing but basket case who didn't get beaten enough as a kid

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>>22169637
by all means, keep them coming. Let's see how many replies accumulate before someone can find something good to say about McCarthy.

>>22169696
where would he be if the govt banned his writings, as they did to Anglin? Who seems to be doing well btw. Huge readership, Early investor in BTC (rich), has interesting things to say, cannot be shut down. How many of those accomplishments can you claim for yourself?

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>>22169720
>"has interesting things to say"
>Anglin writes about BBC cuck fantasies
>[fanboy posts giant yellow penis]
Kek, pottery.

>> No.22169751

>>22169720
>how many replies accumulate before someone can find something good to say about McCarthy.
Do you only selectively browse threads? This is a shit thread about opinions of sone chud. The fact that anyone takes him seriously is itself a red flag.

>> No.22169787

>>22169747
He's putting out multiple articles a day for almost ten years, and you cherrypick a single observation you disagree with (which btw, is entertaining). What do you disagree with in the McCarthy obituary?

>>22169751
he savaged a writer you admire who's not even cold yet, and like the rest of /lit/, you have nothing to say about it. McCarthy was a degenerate, and not an especially gifted writer. Prove me wrong
>pro tip: you cant

You know his name because the government promotes him and the rumor of his greatness made its way to you. If you picked up a book of his, name unknown and started turning through it, you'd put it back on the shelf.

>> No.22169792

>>22169787
Go to bed, Andrew.

>> No.22169798

>>22169610
If that were true he wouldn’t have been roundly abandoned by the WN movement for years now on account of being a seething mongoloid perma-virgin whose only input is to keep riding Donald Trump‘s dick so that Anglin personally can maybe catch a second glimpse of brief fleeting relevancy on the backs of more talented pundits like he did in 2016.

>> No.22169810

>>22169798
what would someone like (you) know about "the WN movement"? kek

>>22169792
I'm flattered. Now about this "Cormac McCarthy"....

>> No.22169825

>>22169787
Fuck off chud. He was already lambasted in a previous thread. Ypu want engagement in your trash thread then make a good one. Not copy pasting previous threads

>> No.22169826

>>22169787
>McCarthy was a degenerate, and not an especially gifted writer. Prove me wrong
>pro tip: you cant
You tell us what book of his have you read? You seem like a big waste of time.

>> No.22169838

>>22169787
>THAT DOESN'T COUNT
I thought it was just a meme but your faggy little manlet hero has a BBC cuck fetish.

>> No.22169855

>>22169787
>because the government promotes him and the rumor of his greatness made its way to you. If you picked up a book of his, name unknown and started turning through it, you'd put it back on the shelf.
Except I had no idea who he was when I stumbled upon The Crossing. But I imagine a chud such as yourself, seemingly illiterate, has a difficult time believing that, given how taken you are by your chud idol lol. Your world will collapse if your chud idol is wrong. Pathetic.

>> No.22169861

>>22169810
Let‘s say that I have appeared in person at least once in my life to a White Nationalist event. That would make a threshold which anglin has never met.

Besides which nobody is taking the bait to discuss McCarthy because this is bottom of the barrel spam by either a bald dyel manlet running a has-been clickbait site after his previous attempts to shit up the board have failed, or someone carrying his viral load because for whatevet reason this is the kind of person they’re flattered to be in league with.

>> No.22169862

>>22169826
I read the unspeakable piece of shit, Blood Meridien, in part because it was promoted here. I saw it through all the way to the end and it never got better. Where are all the posters who said it was the greatest modern novel? kek. I'd be ashamed of myself too.

>>22169838
sounds like something you're "reading in" things that aren't there, but I won't psychoanalyze you. Let's talk McCarthy. Have you read his books?

>> No.22169880

>>22169861
people still read dailystormer and have vigorous discussions on his board. Despite being kicked off domain after domain. It appears you only discuss McCarthy with people who agree with you, and have nothing to say in his defense. Not a friend left, that's exactly what he asked for.

>> No.22169890

>>22169862
>reading in
He's a bald ginger manlet who wrote about being cuckes by BBC.

>> No.22169891

>>22169862
>I read the unspeakable piece of shit, Blood Meridien, in part because it was promoted here.
It's meridian (given you are a chud, okay). What did you dislike? The violence? The pointlessness? This is about as vague as your previous post disregarding him. If you want to discuss McCarthy be specific.

>> No.22169900

>>22169880
>It appears you only discuss McCarthy with people who agree with you
No one wants to discuss McCathy with you because you're a retard, Andrew. There's far more to gain pointing this out and laughing at you than there is discussing a writer youd be filtered by if you've ever even read him. Why don't you just fuck off and go back to writing about Reptilians taking over the world?

>> No.22169910

>>22169891
The technical quality of his writing was neither impressive nor enjoyable. The arguments otherwise that you're hinting at are circular. There's no revelation, after hundreds of pages nothing is accomplished. Perversely, his fans see this as a meaningful statement, even a work of art. I do not, in fact I disagree on many of the same grounds as Anglin. That's why I posted the article. Now let's hear about his purple robes.

>>22169855
I'm not the one here running interference for my idle. McCarthy was a hack, promoted to achieve political goals.

>> No.22169916

>>22169880
Some legacy forum posts on a set of stock pages openly targeted at middle schoolers, bouncing third world hosts and getting astroturf clicks from his jewish site manager, is a remarkably sad legacy. Not a single person or community from the 2016 alt-right moment hasn‘t grown and run laps around it for years.

There are several topics here every day on McCarthy from a variety of perspectives. If you had an original thought in your head or the grounds to develop your theory, these posts would be made there, in new language. Nobody is going to take this degraded copypasta from a writer beneath contempt halfway seriously

>> No.22169921

>>22169910
He was never promoted you fucking retard. He was discovered later in life by Writers and critics and readers. If there is one writer who got where he deserved to be without ever having the industry support him it is Cormac McCarthy. But you hate anything that doesn't line up with your politics and extremely badly though out morals, like a low IQ chud.

>> No.22169928

>>22169900
I see this as a accurate portrayal:
>I will tell you this: virtually anyone with a sick mind and fifth grade writing skills could have written this gross, saccharine, self-indulgent, and above all repetitive prose. When you look at the “edgy” syntax, you are reaching below the fifth grade level. Any moron with a thesaurus can write broken sentences without correct punctuation. Mixing transgressive imagery with an assault on the written language, and underwriting it with themes of nihilism and blasphemy, should have been viewed as an abomination

the introduction too was funny and accurate:
>Along with edgy and predictable shock shlock, he also wrote kiddie romance novels.

Born to an Irish Catholic family, McCarthy, like many of his ilk, joined the Jews to help them destroy everything. Reading a Cormac McCarthy novel is humiliating and brings deep shame on a person. As you read the foul and unnatural arrangement of words, you feel as though McCarthy might as well have just broken into your house at night and pissed in your face while you’re sleeping.

>>22169916
please link me to your impressive writings sir

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Imagine a world where moot wiped /pol/ off the map when he had a chance

>> No.22169949

>>22169921
articulate what you see as the good qualities of his writing and morals.

>> No.22169956

>>22169910
What political goals?

>> No.22169976

>>22169956
replacing the values of our grandparents with nihilism, atheism, hedonism and individualism as opposed to family.

>> No.22169999

>>22169910
>The technical quality of his writing was neither impressive nor enjoyable.
Subjective opinion. Prose is why the book is acclaimed. You seem to be closer to an older classics reader (although I doubt you really read seriously), and a book with modern sensibilities like Blood Meridian will definitely not be up your alley. But that doesn't justify your proclamation. You want other people to agree with you while providing nothing beyond "because I thought so", and while also not having any real background in understanding 20th century art and the movements that inspired it.
>nothing is accomplished. Perversely, his fans see this as a meaningful statement, even a work of art
Lmao. Have you any experience with 20th century art. Forget that, why did Francisco Goya paint those ghastly paintings? What purpose they accomplish? What is the real, non imagined purpose of anybody's life? There are no real straight answers to these questions. You can't view things outside of a frame of reference. A very old and naive frame. The book is violent because the history it is based upon is violent, not because McCarthy is a degenerate. It is filled with landscape descriptions because the Desert is really that interesting especially if you are there watching all the phenomena occur. You can't go back to the 19th century again. And your seeming inability to disconnect your morals and politics, like the retard Anglin, will not give you much joy on this board of all places.

Anglin's grounds are shady. He is arguing in the same bad faith as someone of his ilk might accuse the liberals of. The right argues about the truth and the necessity for people to face it, but Anglin is the perfect example of a low IQ person who want the truth only as long as it complements his pre-made worldview. The accusation that McCarthy is a degenerate doesn't refute the fact that nearly all massacres in the book are historically accurate. If McCarthy is a degenerate for being acquainted with this history, Anglin's God is a much bigger degenerate in allowing the World to be this violent. It is a retarded argument by a coward pussy hypocrite who would unapologetically view the book as a Bible if it was a non-fiction work about the crimes and violence committed by POCs in America.

>> No.22170012

>>22169910
>>22169999
Similar is his argument against the writing style. But that seems useless to discuss because you, like Anglin, will never progress beyond the dumb argument that it is bad because "it just is". Again, any alien inflection in the prose or any register that doesn't fit your accutely limited knowledge of prose writing will be deemed bad. I won't delve deep into this, but Dennis Donoghue argued that the prose is in a tradition called góngorism, inspired by the style of góngora who was an ornate Spanish writer from 16th century. Even Colloquial Spanish is much more flowery than normal English, so when McCarthy adds those Spanish inflections in his prose the result is a very eccentric mix. However, the mexicans along the border areas talk in an English that is much more ornate than the usual, because they are more often than not translating their Spanish to the closest English adjacent (which are its latinate leanings). Even The Judge derives his eccentric oration from the same. Hence, the style, however Alien sounding, fits the place and setting. Even the alieness fits because McCarthy wants to show the world in a different light, which is partially responsible for all the philosophical interest in the book (whether ypu like it or not). Narrating the world differently makes us see it differently because our rational understanding is dependent on language (as per wittgenstein)

>> No.22170017

>>22169949
You first need to educate yourself with his actual life, not with the fantasy your chid mind has invented about him being some government plant.

>> No.22170019

>>22169976
Retard.

>> No.22170030

>>22169999
>while also not having any real background in understanding 20th century art and the movements that inspired it.
textbook circular argument. I bet you didn't realize that, did you?

I don't mind the book being violent, but there's no point to it. It's pornographic. This 'no point in life' stuff is not a serious worldview for anyone who has a family. And surprise, now that McCarthy's values are being promoted, their target audience (white liberal college grads) aren't having families.

I see you getting emotional at the end, you are a lousy writer. No, if there were a book about blacks killing whites, or natives killing each other "and that's just the way it is" (McCarthy's career in 7 words) that's not something I'd read. Apocalypto movie was that. I'm glad there's no one calling it a masterpiece.

The only meaning in life for McCarthy is teenage lust. That's a degenerate message.

>>22170017
>>22170019
You're products of an intellectual wasteland.

>> No.22170041

>>22170012
>it is bad because "it just is"
It is bad because there's nothing redeemable about it and the writing is emperor's robes. Your entire wall of text is just you talking yourself into it. The Judge was boring. The entire book was boring.

>> No.22170056

>>22170030
>I don't mind the book being violent, but there's no point to it. It's pornographic. This 'no point in life' stuff is not a serious worldview for anyone who has a family. And surprise, now that McCarthy's values are being promoted, their target audience (white liberal college grads) aren't having families.

>I see you getting emotional at the end, you are a lousy writer. No, if there were a book about blacks killing whites, or natives killing each other "and that's just the way it is" (McCarthy's career in 7 words) that's not something I'd read. Apocalypto movie was that. I'm glad there's no one calling it a masterpiece.
Apparently you are incapable of reading, which is expected of a chud. But your retarded argument that it serves no purpose has already been dealt with in my post. There is legitimately no transcendent point to life. All meaning is made, nobody has seen God and until that day all higher calling is fiction, a product of the imagination. Your small brain will call it nihilism because you can't think outside categories, a thinker you are not. You also sidestepped my argument. The violence in the book is pointless because it was pointless in real life too. Why should your "family friendly" God be given the benefit of the doubt then. McCarthy comes out as a greater theist that way. Closer to God's image in perceiving history.

You may not read it but in the typical low IQ fashion of your kind, you misconstrued. I was talking about Anglin. He sure as hell would read it.
>The only meaning in life for McCarthy is teenage lust. That's a degenerate message.
You have nothing to back this up. Atph is no different from the numerous classic novels about young adult love. And it's one book.

>> No.22170060

>>22170030
You are product of immense retardation.

>> No.22170071

>>22169999
nice digits

>> No.22170075

>>22170041
Circular argument. I predicted, which stands, that your argument will not progress past "waaaahhhh I didn't like it, so it's not good". Typical of these posers in McCarthy threads. You were asking people to discuss McCarthy and I knew it from that point on that you will do everything but discuss the book proper in an educated way. That's how you retards are, illiterate but opinionated and really butthurt at the first sign of dissent.

Ironically, it is 5th graders that are incapable of articulating their dislike beyond emotional reactions. The only good argument that doesn't expose your low intelligence. Pathetic waste of time. Clowns.

>> No.22170079

>>22170056
>There is legitimately no transcendent point to life.
There is legitimately no transcendent point to *your* life. Ahh, but other people may see something you don't. Do you have children?
>You also sidestepped my argument. The violence in the book is pointless because it was pointless in real life too
and it's pointless to write about, other than moving society into moral relativism. It's also CIRCULAR. I addressed this directly, when you first hinted at it. What benefit do I get, as the reader, for reading a thousand pages of this that are identical to the first hundred?

>> No.22170082

>>22170071
His God is with me. Because, like Cormac, I know the score.

>> No.22170089

>>22170075
If a book is not enjoyable, but akin to hitting your head on the wall for hours, it's not a good book. You'd better off physically hitting your head on the wall. The discussion of McCarthy's technique is a circle jerk. There's nothing circular about saying the book is boring and unenjoyable, and the writing is repetitive. Good writers don't come across as repetitive.

>> No.22170093

>>22170082
What's the score?

>> No.22170094

>>22170079
>and it's pointless to write about, other than moving society into moral relativism. It's also CIRCULAR. I addressed this directly, when you first hinted at it. What benefit do I get, as the reader, for reading a thousand pages of this that are identical to the first hundred?
Writing is more than just delivery of the message, you idiot. And, atleast with this book, the argument, along with the Judge, evolves. How much 20th century philosophy have you read? The early novel is certainly not in the same philosophical ballpark as the last third.

Btw, the world is violent is not the book's message to begin with. It's a deduction made from all its violent content.

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>>22169928
>a sick mind and fifth grade writing skills
That's mastabatory moralizing in lieu of bringing something to the table when it comes to theme (i.e. being a good reader) and hyperbolic contrarian nonsense standing in for an actual take on McCarthy's writing. Only retards are fooled into thinking Anglin is saying anything here (or anywhere else for that matter).
>gross, saccharine, self-indulgent, and above all repetitive prose
Pro-tip: people hide the fact they don't have a real take by hiding behind a vague idea of "prose." There's nothing gross about McCarthy's prose, I'm pretty sure Anglin doesn't know what "saccharine" means, I don't find his writing to be pretentious or self-indulgent, and I could just as easily make an appeal to rhythm while pointing out he's telling on himself by admitting he's bored ("repetitive"). This is an opinion being asserted without even the slightest bit of substance to back it up.
>Any moron with a thesaurus can write broken sentences without correct punctuation
McCarthy's use of language adds a layer of depth to his work, alongside tone and atmosphere, and his minimalist approach to punctuation effectively brings the reader closer to the story. It creates a clarity that somehow maintains itself even in the presence of dialogue--I've never had to reread in order to figure out who or if someone is speaking.
>Mixing transgressive imagery with an assault on the written language, and underwriting it with themes of nihilism and blasphemy, should have been viewed as an abomination
First, that's just more hyperbolic moralizing. Second, I've given a deeper take on McCarthy's syntax than Anglin managed to do and I don't find any "assault on written language" taking place. Third, I personally wouldn't call McCarthy's work "transgressive" just because it examines historical reality of violence by depicting violence itself (Anglin is once again hiding behind buzzwords of which he doesn't seem to know the meaning). Fourth, calling McCarthy "nihilistic" is to ignore the human relationships that offer meaning to the characters he presents--it's a very reductive read. Fifth, I don't find his work to be a blasphemy and there are elements within it that present the idea that attenuating yourself so as to be open to hearing the voice of God is to find meaning (opposite of nihilistic).

Anglin's entire take is simply pontificating reactionary nonsense. There's nothing of substance or depth in his criticism of McCarthy; he's presenting a contrarian take retards like yourself will mistake for insight. He has nothing to offer--he's a small man who betrays his own ignorance when it comes to the work of a more creative and substantial man.

I will say again that Anglin is a pathetic manlet who isn't even tall enough to have been in the SS. He reminds me of that faggot Rittenhouse shot (i.e the bald ginger manlet)--the only difference is they radicalized in opposite directions.

>> No.22170104

>>22170094
violence in real life may seem pointless to you, that means you haven't experienced it. It's not a meaningful message after hundreds of pages. Describe if you will the philosophical journey in the last third of the book.

>> No.22170105

>>22170089
5th grade argument again. Over and over and over. "Wahhh I don't like it. You shouldn't like it too." If I didn't like it I wouldn't bother learning more about it. It's all about experience. Repetition is a genuine technique in fiction, ask Gertrude Stein and Samuel Beckett, and a very effective one when done well. Which it is here, but you may disagree. It seems you won't even acknowledge that technique though.

You have become repetitive yourself. Post your favorite books.

>> No.22170109

>>22170104
Dude, the Glanton Gand DID for real kill all those people without being paid anything in return. It literally happened. This is not statistics. One exception makes and breaks the whole philosophical argument. It is not even the only exception. Look up the fate of Rosicrucian society.
>Describe if you will the philosophical journey in the last third of the book.
After your response to all those educated posts by me? No thank you. I will just say that it has something to do with witnessing and violence as a ritual, like sex is. (Hence the Judge referring to it as The dance, it is a performance).

>> No.22170133

>>22170100
>mastabatory moralizing
the only thing masturbatory here is your wall of text. Stop gazing at your navel. Stop getting emotional on the internet. Your writing's derivative. But at least you tried.

>>22170105
The great writer doesn't write for the critics, but for the reader. McCarthy is NOT a great writer, to some degree he's a good writer. Not as bad as Anglin says I'll grant. But wildly overrated.

I know what good writing is by the feel, and I know when I'm reading derivative garbage like >>22170100

>>22170109
Sexualizing violence = degenerate
Maybe he did that, maybe he wasn't paid, but it doesn't sound like you understand publishing. Anyway that's not what makes a book "good".

>> No.22170143

>>22170133
>The great writer doesn't write for the critics, but for the reader
Don't try aphorisms. You are horrible at it and clearly underread. A Great writer writes for himself and nobody else. This was literally asked to many Great writers, "where does the book come from?". They called it an itch.
>I know what good writing is by the feel
I assure you that you don't. This thread is filled with evidence.
>Sexualizing violence = degenerate
Hahahahahahahahaha lol oh my God. Motherfucker what the hell are you saying? I said Violence is a ritual, like sex is a ritual. It is not sexualized violence for fuck's sake. A ritual is not a synonym for sex for fuck's sake. This is your dumbest post till now.

>> No.22170148

>>22170143
the louts like you also write for themselves
the Great ones know there's someone on the other end

>> No.22170153

>>22170148
Lol. Whatever floats your boat.

>> No.22170154

>>22170133
>I have no answer to any of what you said about Anglin's article
I knew you wouldn't and that's why it's better to just state you're a filtered retard and Anglin is a reactionary manlet with nothing to say.

>> No.22170159

>>22170154
Anglin's always a good read. McCormick could've learned something from him if he didn't..you know

>> No.22170164
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>>22170159
>WE REPRESENT
>THE 1/3RD REICH
>THE 1/3RD REICH
>THE 1/3RD REICH
>AND IN THE NAME OF
>THE 1/3RD REICH
>WE WISH TO WELCOME YOU TO MANLET CHUD LAND

>> No.22170172

>>22170154
Is that you that posed the meme of pedophile Rosentheil
your writing is completely derivative and none of your arguments are original. Sorry it's true. You want me to break down your respponse, post a worthy response not university nuspeak.

>> No.22170180

>>22170172
>your writing is completely derivative and none of your arguments are original
I appealed directly to his own words and demonstrated he had nothing to say other than sperging hyperbolic nonsense that tricks retards like yourself into thinking otherwise. Everything he writes is reactionary nonsense hiding behind buzzwords.
>You want me to break down your respponse, post a worthy response not university nuspeak.
You can't break it down because it demonstrates an understanding of McCarthy and doesn't rely on making flat assertions that only serve to betray ignorance. Cope, retard.

>> No.22170192

>>22170180
this is why criticism is shit. and always from non-writers. Anglin wrote about how McCarthy's words come off the page. That's real. Made me laugh a few times. I had the same experiences reading it so I could relate. That's what a writer does. A critic OTOH digs his heels in, gets defensive etc. and often they are clumsy with words.

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>>22170192
>Anglin wrote about how McCarthy's words come off the page.
No he didn't. He made assertions about his writing style while misusing words and failing to comment on how it affects the reader. Anglin is a retard and so are you. Pick a better manlet, kek.

>> No.22170214

>>22170205
>edgy and predictable
>shock shlock
>Reading a Cormac McCarthy novel is humiliating
> As you read the foul and unnatural arrangement of words,
> you feel as though McCarthy might as well have just broken into your house at night and pissed in your face while you’re sleeping.
> simplistically written and filled with titillating scenes of violence and depravity.
>example, in “The Road,” you have a post-apocalypse scene where a father and son
>underlying message of his work is that everything is completely meaningless – except kiddie style romantic love
>sick mind and fifth grade writing skills
>gross, saccharine, self-indulgent, and above all repetitive
REPETITIVE
>REPETITIVE
>When you look at the “edgy” syntax..broken sentences without correct punctuation. Mixing transgressive imagery with an assault on the written language, and underwriting it with themes of nihilism and blasphemy

>> No.22170225

>>22169541
I'll assume that this isn't a rather strange troll, and answer the ... um ... ”question.” I'll try to use the vernacular, so it's clear. The author talked about how they have a moral viewpoint that they use to evaluate the merit of a literary work. They specifically wrote that they believe that being a "prose stylist" is a less effective storytelling approach than an untrained "moral equivalence" one. I admit that I'm a “hunt-and-pecker" when it comes to choosing themes in my writing, and I believe that I am quite effective. Since this is /lit/, as opposed to just any board on 4chan, I'm willing to back this up by pointing to the canon of my work, as catalogued on my GitHub and Substack, and as extra credit, I'd also consider linking to an article that I wrote, discussing how I write my prose, if anons are interested. I've been writing since I was a wee bairn. I've written a 400-page novel, but it wasn't published because it was overshadowed by a few major world events (I won't say which ones, but I suspect you can guess: it rhymes with "vanilla"). Given the conversation so far, I suspect you may be bothered by this longform post, but this is TL;DR compared to my normal prolix prose. I used to have a family member type my stories by dictation, and it ultimately led to a serious case of RSI (Repetitive Stress Injury), that required an operation. The RSI was bad enough to negatively affect what was turning out to be a lucrative career (his, not mine).

>> No.22170239

>>22170225
kek
you could sum it up: the form and style is crap and the moral lesson is degenerate. I'd be interested in your howto article. How do you rate McCarthy's book(s)?

>> No.22170244

>>22170214
Like I said, Anglin offers no depth of criticism and just makes shallow assertions. There's no actual analysis, vague appeals to an entirely reactionary and unearned moralism carry the weight instead of actual argument. Only a retard could get carried along with his contrarian nonsense instead of seeing he's a manlet that doesn't really have anything to say.

I'd call Anglin's take reductive but there's not enough there to deserve even that label. He simply doesn't engage with how McCarthy deals with any given theme while preaching to his choir of fellow idiots. Besides this failure when it comes to style he merely asserts McCarthy's writing is poor by way of childish off the mark insults. He doesn't address what may be the intention behind it and offer any argument as to how it fails. I laid out in a previous post how McCarthy's style works itself on the reader and you're completely unable to deal with it because Anglin didn't provide you with anything there to regurgitate. The problem is that Anglin makes flat assertions and his hyperbole is easily brushed away by anyone (how did he say it?) "beyond a fifth grade reading level."

Anglin is a retard who simply attracts fellow retards. He has nothing to offer and neither do you. These threads only serve to embarrass him, as well as fellow travelling retards like yourself, but odds are you'll remain ignorant no matter what. You're not here to improve your understanding of McCarthy in particular or writing in general. You're here to sperg self-satisfying mastabatory nonsense written by a manlet who doesn't actually have anything to say.

Now cope, retard. Cope.

>> No.22170249

>>22170239
I read Suttree. Long story, lots of tears — get your hanky. It's served me well to have an open mind. I now read a lot of stuff that I used to scoff at, and realized it's better than I first thought. The Passenger may turn out to be his best.

>> No.22170251

>>22170244
>He simply doesn't engage with how McCarthy deals with any given theme
That's what I've been asking you to do the entire thread. LFG what does McCarthy do that you like. No buzzwords.

>> No.22170254

>>22170249
thx

>> No.22170278

>>22169546
I'm really fucking stupid so writing this message took me about 15 minutes. You're gay

>> No.22170297

>>22170143
>A Great writer writes for himself and nobody else
That's pretty much what I do. I really don't give a shit whether or not anyone reads what I write, but if someone is planning to attack me (like I suspect OP might), I suggest they read my published prose because I'll probably reference it when responding. I enjoy writing, and like everything I do, I don't do half ass it, and that's why I haven't written anything in a while—instead I've been working on a fairly intense humanities curriculum for my nephew for the last year or two. I'm preparing a syllabus tonight, so I'll use it as an example to explain my process. My first draft is usually quite good, but I always have typos. I'll do several iterations of fixing, correcting typos first then missing words (I forget "the", "a", "kek" all the time, even after rereading—our brain inserts what's missing), then, repeats and inappropriate words ("sneed", "chud"). Finally, I often see that I need to expand on something or make it more succinct. I do that on 4chan posts all the time. I also tend to write a lot. To paraphrase Joseph II: "too many notes" (i.e. prolix).

>> No.22170355

>>22170251
You have been offered answers in the thread, retard. You do nothing but waffle how it hurts your feelings giving no other argument beyond an emotional one. Low IQ chimp.

>> No.22170358

>>22170251
You've been nothing but disigneuous this entire thread and haven't answered to any of the retorts so far offered. You've proven you're as ignorant as Anglin so why would anyone ever want to discuss literature with you?

>> No.22170360

>>22170355
Checked.

>> No.22170361

Remember the tranny who was trying to falseflag that McCarthy fans don't discuss. This is the level of detractors in a McCarthy thread. Absolute Clownshow from this chud.

>> No.22170479

Anglin is such a fucking troll.
>Cormac is a freaking degenerate
>Also my favorite author is Hollaback girl
I just started reading the Elementary Particles and there is a brutal and degrading rape scene of one of the main characters and there's a scene where a guy tries to voyeuristically jack off to twinks on a beach but can't get hard. And I imagine it's only getting started this shit.

>> No.22170532

>>22170479
Wait until Bruno meets a woman and their relationship runs its course. They go to a sex club wherein she gets fucked into paralysis while men are running train on her.

>> No.22170535

>>22170479
>Anglin is such a fucking troll.
Being retarded on purpose just means you're retarded.

>> No.22170541

>>22170479
>>22170532
Why does /lit/ read this shit? Is it because the west has fallen? Degenerate incel literature

>> No.22170558

>>22169999
>>22170012
He didn’t deserve this effort reply.

>> No.22170572

I'm not reading the Stormer again no matter how many times you post this. You're a christcuck.

>> No.22170590

>>22170558
He really didn't deserve it. To the honorable anon who wrote all that, I'd suggest he consider establishing a portfolio. Write prose that is meant to be shared and admired. Write short stories, poetry and songs. Edit the writing well. Garnish it well. Craft it like you are a master goldsmith, creating regal treasuries. The world needs soulful writing. Write as a vocation—not a hobby. Write whether or not anyone else values or pays for your work. If nothing else, it will be useful as an inspiration to others.

>> No.22170604

>>22170244
Yeah but he's just shitposting, Maybe it's not obvious enough, he has a lot of shtposting experience

>> No.22170615

Maybe I can find an independent/non-profit publisher that doesn't have a pot to piss in and let them publish one of my novels. That's a cause I can support. I write canon-worthy stories that they could never afford on their own. That's just what I do. I can almost certainly say that the prose I've written has saved lives, and restored hope. It also feels great to write beautiful stories. Every idea I sketch out is completely publishable, with tight copyediting, rich themes and sometimes even my own illustrations. I'm a reasonably good artist. I was trained as one before I took to writing.

>> No.22170665

>>22170604
>>22170535

>> No.22170697

>>22169541
>>22169546
Based and true. This garbage belongs to oblivion.

>> No.22170775

>>22170541
Yes. Fallen. It's over. Now piss off back to "The Daily Stormer".

>> No.22170782

low t post

>> No.22171202

>>22170297
>>22170615
post substack

>> No.22171288

These trannies are so mindbroken, you can tell that they are legit getting mad seeing anything related to McCarthy on the board : >>22171241

Fucker, hasn't even the first page of the book yet, kek. These low IQ apes then patronize people about arguments and discussions. All Clowns these retards.

>> No.22171510

The Anglin retard will be another punching bag for McCarthyChads it seems. He is pretty bad at defending his position. He must be a newfag.