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NICOLE IS DEAD: the chapters' names must be cut off from their initials, the precise reversal of cutting off the necromorphs' limbs, Žižek is wrong about everything: Isaac does not realize that /there is no Nicole/ by penetrating the Ishimura, rather, the chapters' names are always already inscribed in the ship's tram system, the fact that, technically, the tram rides are /inert loading screens/ whereby the Ishimura shifts around Isaac, fabricating the illusion of motion, is analogous, or /necrologous/, to the necromorphous process of cadaveric animation, does Kendra not ultimately /pierce Isaac's head/ with a tele-vision, not unlike the one necro-iteration repeatedly seen animating cadavers by piercing their /heads/, the very locus of the chapters' initials spelling out Isaac's fate? THE PRIMAL SCENE IS SECONDARY, the /Marker/ is the nullifying obscene: something reverse engineered from a /Divine original/ and buried in /space/, Freud is wrong about everything: the Father is a /hermaphrodite/, the phallic helix circumscribes, or /necroscribes/, the Ishimura itself as a /false yoni/, the negative space of the Marker resembles a twisted plane whose ends /could/ be joined into a Möbius strip, this is precisely the structure the of game, Isaac cuts off Oedipus' /limb/: Lacan is wrong about everything: the /whole/ Oedipal structure is /reverse engineered/ from an ideological NICOLE IS NOT DEAD, the /tragedy/ is as an undue animation of the maternal cadaver, the /necromorphous limb/ of the Father. CUT OFF THEIR LIMBS: the vacuum of space is not unlike the NOT /sucking Isaac into a total inertia/ inside the Ishimura, into the obscenity of Nicole's /necromorphous phantom/, nullifying any primal scene, the idea being rightly mocked by the game itself in the tragicomical Hammond-Kendra relation, amputated limbs "engendering" the NOT SPEAKING SUBJECT of Isaac, a /necromorph/! THE HIVE MIND IS NOT NICOLE, rather /the final obscene apparition of Nicole is the true face of the Hive Mind/, the pitiful fight being as a /body/ cut from the /limb/ of the true /boss/ who ends the game. Deleuze is wrong about everything: the chapters' initials necromorphing the game's body are the LIMBS CUTTING BOTH BODIES AND ORGANS APART: the Marker is the /sovereign sign itself/, the opening between the original and the copy is identical to the space necroscribed in and of either of their helices, A LITERAL DEAD SPACE, the copy being buried in total opacity is as a /necromorphing/ of the original decomposing itself into total transparency. Baudrillard is right about everything: the actual necromorphs are not instantiations necessary to realize the death of Nicole, but Disneyland-like bodies, /cadavers/, meant to cloak the necromorphous body of the game itself, MAKING US WHOLE.

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21604211

>>21604209

No second part. It's me again. I think he's dead.

>> No.21604218

video games are literally identical to the metaphysical laws governing reality, that's why writing about them makes me smarter than everybody haha *smokes weed* *writes some dumb bullshit about how reality is ultimately dualistic even though this is fucking impossible*

>> No.21604222

>>21604218
>about how reality is ultimately dualistic

No.

>> No.21604245

bro... this world is so evil and shithole bro.... *smokes more weed* *watches youtube* bro.... this place is literally hell... *does nothing for humanity* *writes 9000 word proving that good is possible without evil by namedropping authors and using big words*

>> No.21604572

>>21604218
>>21604245
Scum are many this morning.

>> No.21604630

>>21604211
I thought you left this shithole for good?

>> No.21604635

>>21604211
So should I get the Dead Space remake? Haven't read the OP yet btw. Isn't this the first time you've ever posted about something as lowly as vidya? I'd kill for your schizognosis of Rain World

>> No.21605348

>>21604635
yes you should get dead space remake and become true gnostic like me... no don't do anything that would actually improve people's lives or do any manual labor or work with your hands so that people can enjoy the same things that we do.... that would literally make you a loosh farming archon.... just smoke weed and play videogames like me, then you are become truly enlightened fountain of light...

>> No.21605489

>>21604211
So you are the real schizoposter? Than who is dead?
If he is dead, than who are you?

>> No.21605508

>>21604209
As a dev, you're wrong.

>> No.21606092

>>21605348
Yes, exactly, fuck people.

>> No.21606458

>>21605348
Look at this bitter turd.

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21606482

>>21606092
by your fruits are you known

>> No.21606598

>>21604209
>schizo poster does a schizopost on a movie i have never seen
mfw

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>>21606482
Yup, and so are you

>> No.21607530

>>21607033
this picture reminds me that I need to do more hallucinogenic drugs and post more goodreads reviews to help make the world a better place

>> No.21607615

>>21606482

This is orientalism. You are a pagan.

>> No.21607624

>>21607615
yeah bro boehme was a stupid pagan who knew nothing about these drugs and video games we have today, if only that wretched shoemaker could see what I see when I smoke a fat one while listening to death grips, he'd be humbled

>> No.21607628

>>21607624
zzz

>> No.21607630

>>21606458
I want to feed that anon to my plants

>> No.21607631

>>21607624
>boehme was a stupid pagan

Yes. As are all Catholics and, in this case, crypto-Catholics.

>> No.21607634

>>21607624
>>21607631

ALSO, your obsession with drugs is ironic given that, Historically, intoxication was allowed, NO, mandated, by venal Catholics.

>> No.21607638

i once downloaded an older translation of boehme that really read right, but now all i have is a modern and annotated one that's pretty awful. does anyone know which one i was reading before, a few years ago.

>> No.21607640

>>21607634
it is unfortunately not my obsession, it's the obsession of the person who posted this thread, he actually thinks like this

>> No.21607648

>>21607640

NOTHING distinguishes the stupid (Catholic) excerpt you've posted (>>21606482) from current junkie ideology.

>we r all one
>peaec & LUV
>god is eveywher1

>> No.21608217

How anyone can deny evil's inherent existence is beyond me
The world is obviously a duality

>> No.21609576

>>21608217
The world obviously needs evil so that good can even begin to be distinguished

>> No.21609738

>>21609576
Retarded cope

>> No.21609799

>>21609738
the retarded cope is you thinking that reality can just be some homogenous medium of light or something and still be perceived, experienced, or enjoyed. it can't, that's why the reality in front of you, the one you are looking at with your eyes, isn't a homogenous medium. but maybe reality isn't for you, you'd prefer "the void" or whatever, that's fine. just don't pretend you have anything worthwhile to say about reality for the sake of us who do enjoy it.

>> No.21609824

>>21604209
Cool, but how do the Brethren Moons factor into this, philosophically speaking? I would like to know.

>> No.21610105

>>21609799
This kind of ontological Stockholm syndrome is repulsive

>> No.21611453

>>21609799
>you need booboos.... to appreciate boobies :'''))))
Cringe

>> No.21611641

>>21611453
you do in fact need something that is not X in order to distinguish it as X. that's what it means to be distinguishable. you love digital media so much, why don't you go play a game in which there is no challenge to be overcome. or why don't you go watch an anime in which there are no difficulties to be had at all. why don't you go outside and tell me what the biggest and most beautiful tree is when they are all the same size, color, and shape. go ahead and keep bumping your shit thread. you're nothing but an angsty brat who proudly exhibits his fanciful writing on the web because he thinks he's a "mystic". stop posting and humble yourself. you're a poet, nothing more

>> No.21611674

>>21611641
>you do in fact need something that is not X in order to distinguish it as X.
This is the rule of the world/mixture. Hence why Gnostic God is remote and alien. This God does not participate in the logic of duality by definition. You don't have the intellect you think you do

>> No.21611713

>>21611674
it's the rule of reality. the one you're in right now. you can talk about and abstract from different parts and aspects of reality, but practically and materially, it's right in front of you and all around you. you exist on its terms, not yours. don't like it? complain some more about it

>> No.21611729

>>21611713
Anemic

>> No.21612389

>>21611641

This was my last reply: >>21607648

>> No.21612949

>>21611674
If the gnostic God is not willing to engage with duality, than how can humans, locked up in the realm of duality, connect with God? Are we conclusively trapped, barricaded from this higher being?

>> No.21613489

>>21612949
The dualism between good and evil is a corruption. The real duality is between dualism and its absence; "good and evil" is a characteristic of the mixture, the Unknown God is foreign to it. "Good" is what happens when this foreign light intermixes with the World, it's a simulacrum. As it is removed from the World, "good" becomes whole again.

>> No.21613600

>>21613489
Thanks!

In wich way, was the guy you were arguing with, wrong? I might not understood this well enough, but here we go.
According to you the 'good' is other worldly, it comes from a source withdrawn from the "mixture/world". Thus when this 'good' enters this world, it's goodness can misguide us into thinking everything else is evil.
The other guy fallen into this exact trap, thinking good and evil is inherent to this world, while in you view, it's not. As you elegantly put it, he's effected by "ontological Stockholm syndrome".

I hope this is somewhat right and I didn't misrepresent your stance. I'm retarded, and ESL on top of that.

>> No.21614132

>>21613600
It's more that "evil" is the fundamental basis on which this world operates. The invasion of light allows something else to arise from the darkness of the World aside from pure evil. What isn't "good" is from this world, which can only beget darkness.
What's necessary is the recognition that this existence is predicated on evil and that the sparks of light that shine through the mud do not serve to absolve it.

>> No.21614458

>>21614132
Thanks for clearing it up!
It's a really intresting thought, glad you shared it.

>> No.21614616

>>21614132
good is from another universe entirely but it interacts with this one even though this is completely logically inconsistent and retarded, i know it's true because it was the plot of an anime or novel or something and because I want to not feel guilty while doing nothing for other people and enjoying the fruits of their labor. and you can't just use my own logic and say evil is from another universe and invades this world because that would hurt my feelings, which are the things the entirety of existence is based on and revolves around.

Sent from my iPhone

>> No.21614699

>>21614616
Worthless post full of aimless vitriol, reddit-tier quips and vacuous "arguments"
Now I remember why I stopped coming to this website for a few months

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>>21614699
Yeah, remember the good old days?

>> No.21614776 [DELETED] 

>>21614616
world is evil and good just happens to slip through the cracks because you said so?
well world is good and evil just happens to slip through the cracks because i said so.
how about that?

>> No.21614788

>>21614699
world is evil and good just happens to slip through the cracks because you said so?
well world is good and evil just happens to slip through the cracks because i said so.
how about that?

>> No.21614789

>>21614776
The mechanics of existence are predicated on evil. You're neither as witty nor as smart as you picture yourself to be, you're boring and your opinions are trite

>> No.21614841

>>21614789
the mechanics of existence are predicable on good because that's what i just said right now

>> No.21614910

>>21614616
Look around you, fool! The world is evil, constantly trying to maul you. It's a bulettrain headlessly rushing towards heath death. How could any good be inherent to this soulless death machine of cold matter? The problem of evil doesn't exist, it has always been the problem of good. What's the reason for good, if not a separate being emanating it's goodness from another "universe"? God can't be the creator or 'one with' this world, but his grace can penetrate into it.

Your childish nitpick is retarded, "but what if... evil comes from an outside source... Brooo". Evil can't be inported into this shithole, it was already here, since the begining. In fact, that's all that is to it, evil. Evil can't be the bug because it's the (only) feature! Light is the bug, crossing into the territory of evil.
Tldr, you need to go back tranny.

>> No.21614936

>>21614910
>God can't be the creator or 'one with' this world, but his grace can penetrate into it.
you automatically say good is not ultimately separable from this world when you say "good" or likewise can interact with it and affect it in any fashion whatsoever. you do realize that don't you? surely you do.

>> No.21614982

>>21614936
God has a choice, he has the power to seperate himself absolutely from this world. Since the only good here is God's light that comes from outside, no, good isn't inherent to this world.

Suppose (I'm God) I have a ball filled with O in my hand (the universe) . If I decide to inject He in the ball, it will have He in it, this doesn't mean the ball had He in it before I intentionally introduced it in the ball. Hence He is not inheret to the ball.

>> No.21614999

>>21614982
what is He

>> No.21615005

>>21614999
Helium

>> No.21615010

>>21615005
define absolute separation

>> No.21615043

>>21615010
To not engage, to be completely seperate from the universe.

>> No.21615103

>>21615043
so how is "God's light coming from outside" into the world not an "engagement"