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21210283 No.21210283 [Reply] [Original]

I hope Putin burns in hell until the end of time. This is what I get for my lifelong love of the Russian people. Fuck. Going to suicide soon gents.

>> No.21210291

Gardner's publisher will be interested. Please don't rope, Anon. Suicide is never the answer.

>> No.21210293

>>21210283
That's very convincingly done anon, it would probably fool everyone beneath the 120 IQ range. You should use that talent actually getting an agent.

>> No.21210296

>>21210291
I thought that deranged little fellow self published?

>> No.21210300

>>21210283
>reapply for admission to the human race
lmao this is so absurd and Jewish that I believe you

>> No.21210302

>>21210296
This is not true. He does not own the Means of Production.

>> No.21210304

If this is real, just swap out all the Russian stuff for Ukrainian, or better yet, some country nobody has ever heard of. If this is fake, which it probably is, then fuck you.

>> No.21210309

>>21210304
>If this is real, just swap out all the Russian stuff for Ukrainian
Imagine Putin's reaction if anon does this. He will feel so humiliated kek. Fuck Russia.

>> No.21210310

>>21210300
>We anticipate that in the aftermath of the current war in Ukraine it could take
Russia many years to "reapply for admission to the human race" so to speak. For example, demand for Russian work in translation, even that of greats like Tolstoy, has fallen through the floor and shows no signs of life.
Yeah that's where it falls apart for anyone discerning enough. Just a touch overdone. Even Maddowpoisoned Twittertard agents aren't going to literally say that Russians are subhumans. And the second statement is obviously false and bait, transparently with us in mind. Other than that it's well done.

>> No.21210314

>>21210293
>>21210304
It's not fake, what could I possibly to gain? This isn't even funny or particularly controversial. Anyhow, I can't, because my protagonist is a lecturer in Russian Literature who begins to suffer vivid hallucinations of the various authors he has studied after a drunken suicide attempt. I don't have enough knowledge of the Ukrainian corpus, nor is it sufficiently interesting in my opinion to support this.

>> No.21210316

>>21210293
More like 80 iq range

>> No.21210321

>>21210283
fake, but were it not you could just self pub since it's a lost cause anyway

>> No.21210325

>>21210314
>nor is it sufficiently interesting in my opinion to support this
Fuck off. So you don't care about doing the right thing if it's not "interesting in your opinion"? With that sense of morals it's no wonder you side with Russia.

>> No.21210328

>>21210310
I googled that phrase because I was also shocked and she did put it in quotes. It's from a British TV show, which is unsurprising since my late agent was indeed a brit. See here at 1:45 or so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvYuoWyk8iU

>> No.21210329

>>21210283
That’s a nice, thoughtful letter and I don’t blame them. I know it’s disappointing, but they’re probably correct. Are you relying on that paycheck?
>>21210304
Sounds like it’s too specific and close to the story to pull a swap like that

>> No.21210332

Slava Rossiya

>> No.21210336

>>21210325
I don't support Putin but the book relies heavily on the Russian literary figures that appear in it. It would be like asking somebody to take a book about a lover of English literature and strip out all the anglos and replace them with Scots.

>> No.21210337

>>21210328
You should save the mail to cancel her for calling Russians subhumans after the pendulum swings in a few years.

>> No.21210339

>>21210329
>but they’re probably correct
how exactly?

>> No.21210340

>>21210283
TL;DR:
>no longer be able to represent
>Russophilic
>she/her

>> No.21210342

>>21210336
If the anglos were invading Scotland, then I think the effort to change your book would be more than justified. I don't think you're aware of how distasteful it is to write Russian apologia right now. Just think how much better your book would be if it were about Ukrainian writers instead.

>> No.21210343

>>21210283
The war must be stopped before it results in a global catastrophe. The interaction of NATO’s imperialist militarism, recklessly pursuing its global geopolitical agenda whatever the consequences, and the increasing desperation of Russia’s oligarchic capitalist regime threatens to escalate into a nuclear conflagration.

The hope that “reason will prevail” and the war will soon be brought to a negotiated conclusion is a politically paralyzing and dangerous delusion. NATO does not want “peace.” It wants war. Having deliberately provoked the conflict through decades of NATO expansion toward Russia’s borders and the massive arming of its corrupt satellite regime in Kiev, the imperialist powers are determined to exploit the Kremlin’s miscalculated, politically reactionary and disastrous invasion of Ukraine to the hilt.

Believing that a military victory over Russia is possible, NATO is brushing aside all Russian “red lines.” For most of the post-World War II era—and particularly after the development of hydrogen bombs in the 1950s—the realization that nuclear war threatened the extinction of human civilization led to the political conclusion that nuclear weapons would never be used because there could be no winners in such a conflict. The doctrine of “Mutually Assured Destruction”—with the self-explanatory acronym MAD—was an operative military principle.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/11/04/pers-n04.html

>> No.21210346

>>21210342
>I don't think you're aware of how distasteful it is to write Russian apologia right now.
Pussy

>> No.21210348

>>21210283
Fake and gay

>> No.21210350

>>21210342
>Ukrainian writers
lmao Russia mogs them

>> No.21210355

>>21210350
Excuse me?
What about Lev Davidovich?

>> No.21210358

>>21210350
Ukraine literally has more feminist writers than Russia.

>> No.21210361

>>21210342
>write Russian apologia
I hope you are trolling.
Writing a book that features Russians or recerences to Russian literature is "Russian apologia"?
Okay.....

>> No.21210362

>>21210283
Make it into a graphic novel

>> No.21210366

>>21210355
Who?
>>21210358
lmao nice bait

>> No.21210383
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21210383

>>21210343
Sorry Ivan, we dont allow no-human being here.

>> No.21210384

>>21210283
I'll explain everything, make it all clear. You're not actually a strong enough writer to matter to anyone, but extremely few people on the planet are and publishers need to publish far more than a few people. So what happens is they open their doors to anyone who can put words on paper coherently and as long as everything goes according to plan there's no reason one turd can't contribute to the shit mountain. But what does going according to plan look like? It means they don't have to go out of their way to pack your fucking turd in, it just plops on unassumingly and does nobody any harm. But what you've done, to stretch the metaphor, is you've painted your fucking turd in the Russian flag, and now they're like "what the fuck I just wanted a simple turd and now he thinks he's an artist". So your special little turd, having nothing more to recommend it than being a turd just like the rest, and having everything to condemn it by its problematic Russian ties, is easily discarded without a second thought.
None of this would be relevant if you were an actually strong writer. Don't be depressed, just take another shit, this time being a little more careful to read the room, and you'll be right back on track.

>> No.21210386

>>21210283
post anna's instagram
that smug snark she gave to russia i want to imagine adidas wearing immigrant gopniks raping her

>> No.21210388
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21210388

>>21210325
>no wonder you side with Russia.
The only Russia a man of principal could ever side with died with Tsar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7vGnKXrVYI

>> No.21210392

>>21210283
Good

>> No.21210398

>>21210283
Anna Olswanger?

>> No.21210403

>>21210398
No. Not even close.

>> No.21210407

>>21210339
If it’s not selling, it’s not selling. There’s a fixed narrative that every company with influence agrees on or is told to adhere to. You can’t come off as potentially sympathetic to Russia right now. Look at coverage from the last Winter Olympics and how they bashed that skater. It might be worth trying somewhere else or self publishing, but as a business decision I don’t think it’s unsound.

>> No.21210411

>>21210403
Anna Webman?

>> No.21210415

>>21210411
No and I'm not going to help you dox someone. Stop.

>> No.21210425

>>21210283
the british are all going to be beheaded for sinking atlantis so we have that going for us which is nice

>> No.21210432

>>21210283
if homosexuality could fuel jump drives then london would propel mankind beyond the stars

>> No.21210440

>>21210283
Your agent’s a fag.

>> No.21210441

>>21210388
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZqVOFSYRWI

>> No.21210444

>>21210283
Nothing that she says is wrong. You shouldn't blame her. Books with your kind of stories don't sell today even if Russia wasn't internationally hated right now. If you want to get published easily then write a romance book

>> No.21210445

>>21210283
>reapply for admission into the human race
9/10 had me up until there.

>> No.21210446

>>21210444
tell someone who gives a fuck,elizabeth

>> No.21210453

>>21210343
>The war must be stopped before it results in a global catastrophe
Anon thats their plan

>> No.21210454

>>21210283
Better than having been dropped into _THE_ Ukraine by your literary agent.

>> No.21210508

>>21210314
This book sounds very interesting actually, don't change the story at all for others. Self publish if you have to. Do the hallucinations cause him to eventually try to write his own book to try and be better than them? And when he finishes his book he thinks of as his magnum opus he successfully commits suicide. That's where I would take it at least.

I remember at the start of the invasion nobody near me was restocking Russian vodka for some reason, it was a bit of a tragic time for me.

>>21210325
I'm sure this is a troll.

>> No.21210551

>>21210283
you have several options, choose the best one:
1. Find some other publisher.
2. Leave it for later and publish it once the war is over.
3. Commit suicide.

Also, I really doubt the interest in Russian literature has dropped to such a degree. I guess twitter/tumblr-using middle-aged women aren't buying as much Anna Karenina as before, but the rest shouldn't be too affected.
Unless Americans really are that subhuman and governed by trends, idk. It is true that Russian literature has been popular in he west largely due to its quasi-exotic aura, and now the aura is tainted.

>>21210508
>Self publish if you have to.
And have nobody ever read it.

>> No.21210568

>>21210293
The she/her mfa detail almost convinced me.

>> No.21210577

>>21210551
An hero and become the Wallace/Cobain of bad literature.

>> No.21210579

>>21210568
Women can't read.

>> No.21210622

>>21210551
implying books are only worth anything if people read them

>> No.21210658

>>21210622
I didn't imply that (obviously OP would want people to read the book, since he wanted a real publisher), but I do agree. A work of art that is not experienced by anyone isn't really art at all. A tree falls and nobody is around, etc.

>> No.21210662

>>21210283
>I have decided that myself
Retard alert

And this isn't Putin's fault

>> No.21210678

> This is what I get for my lifelong love of the Russian people.
This but unironically

>> No.21210693

>>21210328
I got it immediately. Shows how old I am.

>> No.21210696

We would be better off culturally if we could stop pretending that Russian literature was anything more than tacky, melodramatic garbage.

>> No.21210698

>>21210283
> The contents of this email are confidential and should be viewed only by the intended recipient.
What of that don't you get, faggot?

>> No.21210707

>>21210283
>she/her
I nearly fell for this. You got too greedy. Coulda had a retard like me proper seething right now. Played yrself.

>> No.21210714

>>21210707
Uhhh...are you a boomer or something? a NEET? literally most of my professors sign their emails off that way here at Princeton. I wouldn't be surprised if literary agents (who are probably more solidly liberal than academia and whose job, at this point, it is to promote progressivism) do the same. It's so common now that I'm certain that in the future it will become mandatory within polite and professional society (though, for now its still voluntary for at least one class I had to introduce myself and my preferred pronouns).

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21210727

Is this you, "OP"? Or do you go by "Ogden" now? There is no purgatorio for people who don't know which art to support.

>> No.21210749

>>21210328
The letter sounds absolutely typical for a Yes Minister fan. Though slightly worrying that there are Sir Humphrey types in the publishing industry too.

>> No.21210770

>>21210283
Imagine falling this for bait. One of the worst I've ever seen

>> No.21210788

>>21210770
>more ogdenbait
>secret elite taskforce in there before it happened
BTFO :eggplant:

>> No.21210792

>>21210283
>putting that much effort into a bland /pol/ false flag
yawn, get a job

>> No.21210802

I think you should put it in a doughnut box and sneak it into a publishing house as doughnuts for the president, and then give him your jam covered manuscript.

>> No.21210832

>>21210802
This is literally what he did last time. The publishers are not stupid and would not fall for it again. Dumbass.

>> No.21210984

>>21210283
Anon, if it's not going to get published anytime soon, post some excerpts here for us to read. At least some of us (might) appreciate it.

>> No.21211338

>>21210283
This is so fake. Can't believe retards are eating this shit up.

>> No.21211363

It's a "piece"?

>> No.21211382

>>21210283
Maybe you can sue for discrimination? Something about that email sounds like discrimination.

>> No.21211384

>>21211338
fuck off i got a similar rejection letter saying there weren't enough references to "modern family values" in mine

>> No.21211390

>>21210283
They wouldn't dare write something like that about the Persians, but I am 100% sure it would still apply. I'm starting to think I've been discriminated because of my Persian name. Oddly enough, having an Arab name would have turned out better.
I recommend looking into a good lawyer. I You have a good case. They are discriminating Russians, and it's not just for marketing purposes. You have a better care if you can prove you have some kind of Slavic ancestry. Some of what they said is undeniably discriminative to Russians, and if they wrote something like this about niggers or Arabs, you wouldn't see the end of it.

>> No.21211394

>>21211390
>care
case*
It disgusts me that liberals wouldn't dare discriminate niggers, but they continuously do so towards Russia. We're talking about a country with a very rich history.

>> No.21211398

>>21210283
I am sorry to break this to you anon but it's not heckin Putler's fault that Western institutions squashed your work lol.
Also:
>be literary agent
>write "unsaleable"
Bullet dodged?

>> No.21211405

>>21210283
>>21211390
>>21211394
And to make my point clearer: "reapply for admission to the human race" is fundamentally discriminative and can help you win the case. They aren't just rejecting you for marketing purposes. You should seriously look into suing. If I got something like this about Iran, I would definitely fucking sue. In fact, I did receive some emails that were very patronizing, but they never dared to mention race.
You need to sue these motherfuckers. It could bring awareness to the problems of the modern publishing industry also.

>> No.21211423

>>21210283
You need to sue and posting this here wasn't a good idea. Imagine if they had said "blacks need to reapply for admission to the human race". Some faggot would post it on Plebbit and lawyers would be jumping all over me. Do you not see you have a valid case?
Whoever wrote that fucking email is moron. Simply saying it's not marketable would have been sufficient and self-explanatory, but they digged themselves a hole with that statement. You need to frickin' and I would be willing to donate some money to your lawyer.

>> No.21211428

>>21211423
>me
him*
>to frickin'
to get a frickin' lawyer*
You have a good case, and if it gets media exposure we can bring awareness to the double-standards of the literary industry.

>> No.21211437

>>21210283
The paragraph about sales of Tolstoy's books having fallen through the floor gives it away pretty easily. Even if that was true, no agent would ever make such an unprofessional statement, based on conjecture. "Russophilic" is also a word no one outside of 4chan would ever use. The sentence about Russia having to reapply for admission to the human race is again something extremely unprofessional that no real agent would ever say.
Last but not least, this is a detail very easy to get wrong for NEETs such as OP, but nobody ever uses pronouns in work emails. Not even at the most woke california tech company.
Kind of sad that so many people are falling for such weak bait.

>> No.21211443

>>21211437
>The sentence about Russia having to reapply for admission to the human race is again something extremely unprofessional that no real agent would ever say.
You underestimate how mentally ill these liberal agents. I know that email is real. It's too much like them.
It's real. He needs to sue, but posting it here was not a good idea.

>> No.21211449

>>21211437
>Last but not least, this is a detail very easy to get wrong for NEETs such as OP, but nobody ever uses pronouns in work emails
They do.
The email is most likely real. OP is just depressed but should still look into suing.
>>21211443
>agents
agents are*

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21211452

>>21210283
>racism is okay against Russians

>> No.21211457

>>21211452
Russians aren't white though

>> No.21211468

>>21211437
Delusional. These people are idiots and make unprofessional statements all the time and in publishing, media, academia, etc. people do in fact put their pronouns in their email.

>> No.21211474

It's not a secret that publishers peddle trash and liberal propaganda. As terrible as it is, it really shouldn't shock you so much.

>> No.21211475

>>21211443
I know it's fake exactly because I have had lots of experience with liberal HR talk. What OP posted is exactly how some 4chan NEET who only knows these types from Twitter thinks they would talk. I mean, just look how that email starts:
"Good evening Mr. ..." Have seriously none of you ever received a work email before? In OPs fantasy, this was his agent, someone who he's had frequent contact with and you seriously believe she calls him formally by his family name?

>> No.21211486

>>21211468
>unprofessional statements all the time
Yes, but they would never dare do this to a nigger because they know they will be sued. Imagine if they had said "blacks need to reapply for admission to the human race". If OP had then posted it on Plebbit, then lawyers would offer to represent him.
OP should seek out a lawyer, preferably of Slavic background, because saying reapply for admission to the human race is asinine in a professional context. If I were told this irl, I would have to restrain myself from beating them into a bloody pulp. Liberals are demons.
I think OP has a good case and can bring awareness of the problems in modern publishing.

>> No.21211489

>>21211475
You're clueless. If you worked in the industry or one like it, you'd know firsthand it is in fact exactly how they write e-mails right down to the formatting of the pronouns in the signature. If it's fake, it's a very good fake.

>> No.21211490

>>21210727
um, is this a Nesmer dox??

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>>21211452
>racism is okay against Russians

>> No.21211500

>>21211489
I think it's real because it gets too many small and nuanced details right. I don't think someone would through the trouble to fake every small detail. If OP is lying, then he's a faggot. From my experience, agents typically give generic automated rejections or sometimes respond back with a rejection while apologizing for being late in a condescending way. However, I think this is real because he was being represented for some time, and the agents tend to be very braindead in this manner.

>> No.21211507

>>21210328
>my late agent
You killed her?!?!?
...
Well done, anon.

>> No.21211509

>>21211489
If it were real, do you think OP has a high likelihood to win in court? That's the main issue here.

>> No.21211517

>>21211489
You are such NEETs it's honestly embarassing. NOBODY writes "greetings last name" unless you're getting an email from the fucking IRS or some other faceless institute. Any email contact between a freelance worker and their client or agency is casual and on first name basis, especially when it's your own fucking agent, who you have pressumably talked to on a frequent basis.

>> No.21211518

>>21211475
When people deliver bad news they tend to be overly formal, especially in writing. However OP's email is still fake.

Anons, remember to sage the thread.

>> No.21211523

>>21211509
I would say no, but I'm not a legal expert. I think he should just revise the book or find a different publisher, one outside of the United States if need be. I've encountered more than a few people who left the U.S. in order to publish in other countries.

>> No.21211525

>>21211384
Did you reply back and tell them modern refers to the early 20th century?

>> No.21211526

>>21211517
You don't know what you're talking about. Just stop it.

>> No.21211528

>>21210283
>pronouns in signature
It is a legitimate privilege and honor to have been rejected by them.

>> No.21211530

>>21211517
>>21211475
This poster is 100% a tranny

>> No.21211533

>>21211523
I think he should have consulted a lawyer before 4chan. Imagine if the agent decided to cease representing him because niggers need "to reapply for admission to the human race". It would be based, but I'm pretty sure they would be sued.

>> No.21211538

>>21211526
you are the one who doesn't know what you are talking about and you cannot refute what I'm saying so you keep repeating the same sentence over and over. Doesn't change the fact that you have never worked a day in your life or you would know that agents don't address their client on last name basis. It's absolutely ridiculous how little life experience you have that you don't even know this much.

>> No.21211540

>>21211533
I honestly don't even know what there is to consult a lawyer about. Publishers can just tell you "this isn't what we're looking for so no thanks" and not break any laws. They're not under legal obligation to publish your book.

>> No.21211544

>>21211457
No, they are hyperborean.

>> No.21211545

>>21211538
Nobody can refute what you're saying because you're just asserting anecdotal bullshit. My own anecdotes tell me you're 100% wrong, but you won't accept that because you have no idea what you're talking about and you know you don't but you insist on it anyway, so you'd continue to insist on it regardless.

>> No.21211552

>>21211530
Wrong, I live in reality and I can easily spot fakes, if anything, you are the tranny for being this delusional to believe something just because you want it to be true.

>> No.21211565

>>21211545
It's not anecdotal, it's common knowledge. Everyone who has ever received a work email knows I'm right. In fact, I'm starting to believe that you are OP. Just accept your loss, learn from your mistake and next time, start your fake email with "Hi xyz, hope you're doing well!" and you're good.

>> No.21211571

>>21211540
There are laws against discrimination when it comes to these things. Let me tell you a story: I was landlord who rejected niggers because they ruin the apartments that I lease. Once I generically rejected one politely, and he threatened to sue me. He knew he had no case, but he was trying to bait a discriminative response over email, which would have greatly fallen into his advantage.
Agents would never dare say a single discriminative remark to niggers, especially given they're always on the lookout for this shit. For example, I used to be a sales representative for pet food, and once I was standing in the aisles and there was nigger who insinuated I was being racist just because I was just standing there. They're trying to bait responses to use in court.
As time goes on, I really hate niggers. I do not like hunting innocent animals, but I would love to hunt niggers on an isolated island. Just release a pack of nude niggers and let me blow their brains out in the jungle. Fucking nigger-loving agent trash.
I've shot a nigger before in self-defense, and it was great. You can't be a man until you take a life but niggers have no life, so that kind of undermines my message.

>> No.21211587

>>21211571
This doesn't read like discrimination of the author to me so much as it reads like "we don't want to publish this thing you wrote about". I don't know why people still suppose fairness and justice in the legal system anyway. Liberals wield the law like medievals wielded swords. The same sort of people who fill the ranks of publishers that turn this down in the first place are the same people who are fill legal advocacy groups, judges' seats, and even law firms. I could easily see a scenario where the law firms you take it to just say "sorry, we're not touching this".

>> No.21211588

>>21211565
Okay, well the rest of us who actually have experience and know what we're talking about know that you don't so it really does not matter so much.

>> No.21211591

>>21211587
If they were talking about niggers instead of Russians, you know damn well they would be all over this. That's assuming the letter in OP isn't fake.

>> No.21211593

>>21211571
>>21211587
And to be clear, I did read your whole reply but chose to reply to it as if you said something productive for the sake of argument.

>> No.21211595

>>21211591
But again, that would play into this whole thing I just explained about liberals wielding the law. That's a liberal cause so of course, they would.

>> No.21211608

>>21211595
I would release a pack of nude liberals into the jungle on the isolated island and blow their brains out. Hopefully, you're not a tattooed, pierced liberal yourself, so you hopefully wouldn't be amongst them.

>> No.21211628

>>21211437
>damage control mode: on

>> No.21211636

>>21211628
Its nose grows even bigger and more hooked when it's on damage control.

>> No.21211673

>she/her

You tried way too fucking hard buddy

>> No.21211729

>>21211673
isnt that what a woman likes? incel

>> No.21211743

>>21211673
Whether you like it or not this is now commonplace in corporate settings. I work for a medium sized telecom company and they’re urging me to use pronouns in my email. If your name is Mike you’re a fucking dude. How often does a persons sex actually come up in conversation?

>> No.21211791

>implying anyone here has an agent

>> No.21211897

>>21210283
Before you an hero, could you share with us an extract or two of whatever it was you were writing?

>> No.21211990

give it to us for free or no balls

>> No.21212143

>>21210283
Russians need to reapply for readmission to the human race fucking kek. Schmitt so was so right about shitlibs being the most radical dehumanizers it ain’t even funny no cap

>> No.21212251

>>21210283
If this is legit, why wouldn’t you get mad at the weak ass left nut publisher?

>> No.21212283

>>21211743
It's the law to not discriminate against gender identities is why fwiw

>> No.21212478

>>21210384
Thanks anon, this put me over the edging. Loading the suicide pistol now.

>> No.21212494

>>21211405
>fundamentally discriminative
Discrimination is not a crime.
>You should seriously look into suing
Lol, and what damages can he claim, you stupid fuck?

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>>21211525
Fucking based.

>> No.21212737

>>21212494
discrimination is absolutely a crime in the US, retard. including on the basis of national origin and/or race. and clearly the damages would be based on his losses from not getting the book published, like any advance or estimated sales. you're dumb

>> No.21213066

I’d like to believe this is fake but I’ve seen so much fucking retardation from people that I really wouldn’t be surprised if it was real

>> No.21213171

>>21210283
I can't imagine wasting my time over bait like this

>> No.21213196

>>21210283
The agent is not wrong. I have avoided stuff from Russia like the plague.

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>>21213196
My Opa was sodomized to death by the Moskals and even I still read Russian works.

>> No.21213294

>>21210283
>he thinks people talk like they're in one of lovecraft's letters irl

>> No.21213303

>>21213294
lmao

>> No.21213319

>>21210832
They won't expect it twice though. Cf. This thread

>> No.21213329

>>21213196
t. actual redditor

>> No.21213354

>>21213294
This is not an usual writing style for an Ivy/Oxbridge educated person. Not everyone writes like USA Today, my micro-brained associate.

>> No.21213356

>>21210283
I'm buying all the Russian classics. Already have most of Dosto. Tolstoy's short fiction is next. I love Russia so much, bros.

>> No.21213370

Anon, look at it this way, at least you're not a Ukrainian who had their elementary school aged daughter gang raped by Russians early on and then had to sit getting shelled by superior fire power all summer because the West couldn't get its supply shit together.

And you're also not a Russian who got conscripted just a few weeks ago, received zero training or guidance, and was thrown to live outside like a dog on foreign soil without even a weapon. Then when they did get weapons, they were 70 years old and they were promptly rushed to the front where they died in a pointless human wave attack to grab -12 feet of cratered trenches.

And even they can't complain. At least they aren't Lugandans or Donboweans, who apparently have had to suffer both their women getting raped by Russians and Chechens, getting raped themselves by Russians or Chechens (to be fair, a lot of Russian conscripts do get raped too I guess), and then had their saviors give them a bolt action rifles from the 1890s and force them to charge into an artillery field at gun point.

Lucky for them there aren't many male military aged Lugandans left so their suffering is over.

This war is peak retarded. World War I, II, probably complete to Russians being sent into battle without guns at all again and the new Tsar, Putin, ending up lynched somewhere out East.

>> No.21213396

>>21213370
What do we think for Putin anyhow?
An hero like Hitler?
Meat hook and angry mob like Mussolini?
Quick mag dump like the Tsar (revolver actually, although they ended up fucking up and having to bayonet their kids)?
Hunting knife up the ass like Quaddafi?
Sprung from jail while awaiting trial by an angry mob who hangs you like Sadam?

I wonder what the oligarchs think. Surely they know what happened to the nobility last time.

>> No.21213407

>>21210283
23 months and they weren't able to sell it to a publisher? Sounds like it wasn't really getting anywhere to begin with. Still, if this is real, that's a massive kick in the dick. You have my sympathies. At least you know you're good enough to get an agent, which already puts you above 99% of the other writers out there.

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>>21211486
>saying reapply for admission to the human race
It's a normal part of British discourse because it featured in a hugely popular television show that has become part of British idiom (and further abroad, certainly Australia too). The allusion is to German post-war behaviour and drawing an analogy to publishing a Germanophile book in the 1940s during the war or it's immediate aftermath, compared to the 1950s or 60s when distance from the war allowed space for the appreciation of German culture to no longer be distasteful.

See:
>Yes Minister
>>21210328
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes_Minister

>> No.21213679

>>21210283
>it could take Russia many years to "reapply for admission to the human race"
jesus chirst

>> No.21213717

>>21213356
Highly recommend Everyman's Library for his short fiction, specifically volume 2.

>> No.21213740

>>21211486
>Imagine if they had said "blacks need to reapply for admission to the human race".
Imagine thinking the TPLACs had been allowed apply for admission the first time round.

>> No.21213775

hahahaha the westoids are such pieces of shit

>> No.21213798

>>21210343
anyone who disagrees with this is a turbo NPC

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>>21210283
>it could take Russia many years to "reapply for admission to the human race"

AHAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAHAHAHAHH
*breathes*
HAAHAHAHHAH

this is brilliant stuff

>> No.21214339

>>21213717
Yea, I have an eye on those. They look pretty neat.

>> No.21214343

>>21211486
>Imagine if they had said "blacks need to reapply for admission to the human race"
They have always been rejected.

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>>21211486
>If I were told this irl, I would have to restrain myself from beating them into a bloody pulp

I regret to inform you that your application for readmission to the human race has been rejected.

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>>21213798
Ah yes, you're a turbo NPC if you don't suck down Tucker's jizz and buy that the US had slavhunting sci-fi super viruses and plans to invade Russia.

No way anyone could see that the decision to invade was absolutely terrible for Russia's long term security, and the result of a shitty strongman system that only fed bullshit to the top. It's not like the war:
>Made Russia's military look far more impotent that virtually anyone imagined
>Fucked up domestic solidarity
>Turbo fucked the economy, potentially for decades if the war drags on and Europe stays off Russian energy long term. Russia also imported a much higher share of GDP than the US before the war and is cut off from crucial military supplies.
>Brain drain. A county's future power is its younger people. Millions of disproportionately high achieving young people left Russia, mostly for the degenerate West before the war. Now there is a mass exodus, not to mention getting 40-80k killed and another good deal maimed.
>Fucked Russia strategically by having more wealth neighbors join NATO and ensuring that whatever is left of Ukraine after the war will end up in the EU at least and be untouchable.
>Uniting Ukrainians who had plenty to hate in a country with sky high corruption. It was Russian fuckery that helped Finland go from poor backwater to wealth state. Same effect hit Korea. If Ukraine becomes a modernized EU State in a few decades Putin will be responsible.

And how could we not feel bad for poor Russian. The evil West must be tricking countries into NATO. It's not like Russia conquered and repressed nationalist movements with an iron first for half of the last century, or like it held another huge swath of Eastern Europe in fiefdom before that even. And it's not like Russia carried out a large scale genocide in Ukraine back then and moved millions of Russians in, which is why the Russian share of the population doubled in the first place. Nor is it the case that EU alligned states in the East all have had their standards of living shoot way above Russia while Russian alligned ones stagnated (compare Poland, etc. with Belarus and Ukraine from 1999).

Plus, the degeneracy! It's not like Russia has higher HIV rates, lower age of virginity loss for women, more partners for women, more prostitution, and hell even more Muslims. Or like Russia sent Asian Muslim shock troops to rape and pillage a White Christian nation.

Truly, it is a mystery

Lest I forget, the war also showed the military command is pants on head retarded. 200,000 troops (not even because they had Afghan style ghost soldiers, as their own scapegoat trials show) for Ukraine? The US coalition had about a million for Iraq. Even after destroying its military and defacto partitioning a third of the country the US used 600k for the second invasion. And for insurgency? The US and SVA had 1.4 million men under arms to hold half of a much smaller country. ROK + UN forced were just under a million in Korea.

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>>21214385
It's fucking mind boggling what has occured. They had vehicles breaking down spraying fluid miles across the border. This means they had likely just taken them out of mothballs, fixed them enough to have the engine turn over, and sent them out.

Very few of the tanks were modernized. Fuel appears to have been sold off. Rations were expired. Not even the special forces had fucking optics and within three months they were issuing 19th century bolt action rifles and AK -47s lol.

Where is the T-14? Where is the SU-57? Did they run out of fucking Philips head screws or something (and can they not at least afford Torex?) Where was the SEAD? They bled the VDV white throwing them into unsupported air assaults while AA was obviously still up. Hell, the Ukrainian air force is still hitting targets and Russia is losing fighters to fucking MANPADS because they have to stick to the deck to avoid AA that is not suppressed.

An S-400 got destroyed by a missile older than the Russian federation. 30 year old HARMS somehow rigged up to old Ukrainian airframes with improvised controls became a wonder weapon against their AA. They parked all their AA in Kherson around one crucial bridge and 30 year old basic rocket artillery took it out in one go, and has also become a wunderwaffen in the context of this shit show. And their "carrier stopper" Black Sea flag ship with a 8 fucking S-300s on it got destroyed by a single shitty Turk drone and two subsonic ship missiles made by a third world country.

Israel, with all US aid included, has a budget a third the size of Russia's for the last decade. They can field complex air ops. They have optics. They have armor. They appear to be able to arm and supply a larger force than all of Russia despite having the population of a single large city. The same comparison can be made vis-á-vis Korea.

So how could NATO have been the big threat Putin had to go at? Answer me that. What would being in Ukraine give NATO that it obviously couldnt have already done.

The obvious threat to Russian security was that ALL THE FUCKING ROUBLES WERE STOLEN.

>> No.21214623

>>21211486
blacks just get rejected politely simple as that

>> No.21214842

>>21214422
This is I why I want Russia to improve and become more economically stable because it will temper their mind blowing retardation and make them less of a global threat.

>> No.21214917

>>21210283
> She/her
Of fucking course

>> No.21214950

>>21210283
Sorry to here that buddy, you deserve better.

>> No.21214962

>>21211437
>Last but not least, this is a detail very easy to get wrong for NEETs such as OP, but nobody ever uses pronouns in work emails. Not even at the most woke california tech company.
Comically ignorant take. Pronouns have made their way into a large portion of tech/tech adjacent email signatures

>> No.21215736

>>21210283
Are people actually falling for this retarded bait?

>> No.21215743

>>21210283
>MFA
I chuckle every time I see someone use that as if it signifies anything

>> No.21215745

>>21215736
You say that as if streaming services didnt pull Anastasia from their catalog when the war started.

>> No.21215754

>>21210325
You write like an angry but submissive person

>> No.21215759

>>21210361
I hope it's trolling

>> No.21216034

>she/her
I refuse to interact with people who do this.

>> No.21216330

>>21210314
Just ask other publishers and don't give up, anon. The premise sounds awesome and I would totally read your novel because of it.

>> No.21216385

>>21210314
Gogol is Ukrainian. If he’s a character in your novel then maybe referring to him as Ukrainian in the novel would help your case, which wouldn’t be a huge compromise imo.

>> No.21216407

>>21215745
Or banned Russian breed of cats from cat competitions.

>> No.21216425

>>21216034
That's why you are not a published writer.

>> No.21216429

>>21210283
this is very fake and i wonder if it's some kind of weird propaganda thing

>> No.21216433

>>21211437
you gave a whole bunch of valid points and yet all anyone commented on was the last one.

>> No.21216578

>>21210283
That's ridiculous if real. Cancel culture really needs to stop. Sorry, anon.

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>>21214422
Putin dick suckers have no comeback for this. You can't claim Russia acted rationally in starting the war and that NATO instigated it. It's contradictory.

If Putin's Russia were a competent, rational entity, it would have seen endemic corruption as a far larger threat than anything else and fixing it would be priority number one. Russia can't be a competent actor because if the ruling clique had anything near a realistic view of the world they would be focused on the catastrophic theft occuring in their defense budget.

Second, the argument that Ukraine was this great threat, a gun aimed at Russia falls completely flat when you realize they chose to invade with such a mind bogglingly insufficient number of forces along a ridiculous number of axes. They clearly thought the resistance would collapse instantly. But if they thought they could seize the country in a week, which they clearly did given they moved riot police up in the first wave, guys equipped to police protests, not seize ground from an opposing military. If they thought they could cease the county in a week with 10-15% of the force level most would say was required for the invasion and face little resistance, then they didn't actually think Ukraine was a threat.

They clearly thought Ukraine wasn't a threat and that they could sail in. What they wanted was to do some map painting for Putin's legacy and some chest thumping. It's the plan of an aging, cancer and brain disease laden Boomer who always wanted to compare himself to former Russian leaders who expanded the empire.

Basically, playing IRL Hearts of Iron and being really bad at it.

>> No.21217457

Every move Russia has made since 2014 has been so counter-productive to its espoused goals and interests that it can't be explained away by stupidity or corruption. I'm starting to think the conspiracy theorists who claim that Putin is part of the same globalist cabal that controls the west are right.

>> No.21217524

>>21217457
The president of Ukraine is a J*w.
Putin is surrounded by multibillionaire Chabad J*ws.
Everywhere you look it's just them.

>> No.21217539

If you are a human being with a brain and a soul, you have no place in modern literature. I'm sorry, OP.

>> No.21217558

>>21217457
Russia foreign policy for Ukraine is the same as it always was and easy to understand. they want access to warm water ports (took them centuries to achieve it), and now they are not letting it go. to get Ukraine we are going to have to fight a world war against Russia. From Russia's point of view, as things stand, Ukraine can't be a viable state, with independent foreign policy and the power to cut them off the warm water ports (Crimeia and Odessa).
it's world war again or a negotiated settlement.