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[Nietzsche No.19778727]

Is he right, Nietzsche-bros? You didn't tell me Nietzsche was a racist chud...

[Anonymous No.19778856]

>>19778727
Hegel has a passage or two calling blacks inferior and less evolved. I think Kant does too.

They probably also never spoke to a black person or Asian in their lives. That was the popular opinion and "science" of their day. They didn't leave Europe.

People are dumb to dump old ideas just because they find a passage "problematic." Are you going to dump the Arabian Nights because they describe blacks as bestial rape apes in The Black Isles story? Dump the great 19th century Euro writers for being rascist? Dump the luminaries of the Muslim Golden Age because they call blacks and Nordics both pretty much bestial subhumans?

You'll be left with nothing before the 2000s.

[Anonymous No.19778913]

>>19778727
Pernicious nonsense wrapped in twiddle twaddle ramblings while easily being one of the most influential books published in the 20th century. This is the most different of all of Nietzsche’s books while simultaneously epitomizing all of his other writings even to the point of making this book seem unoriginal, something that I’ve never felt with any of his other books. It’s clear that a lot of this book were notes from his other books, and the rest were notes for what would become this book. There is one thing that struck me about this book, overall it was the most unoriginal of all of Nietzsche’s writings because he had for the most part said it elsewhere in his writings but says it here in such a way that it will appeal to the proto-fascist and soon-to-be Nazis who will lap this stuff up.

Ayn Rand loved Nietzsche and was going to use his quotations as chapter headings for ‘The Fountainhead’ until she realized that she misunderstood him; she obviously agreed with his fascism but wasn’t able to understand his philosophy beyond the superficial and I suspect it was this book that originally hooked her. Heidegger wrote an incredibly influential book explaining this book that influenced Derrida, Foucault and Rorty, but, most importantly, Oswald Spengler explicitly cites Nietzsche and Goethe as his major influences for volume I of Decline of the West (by all means read that God awful book if only to understand why one can call Trump a fascist), and lastly in Hitler’s autobiography, Nietzsche with Goethe, Luther and Fredrich the Great were Hitler’s acknowledged greatest influences. BTW, within this book I would say that Goethe was equally praised by Nietzsche as Hitler and Spengler praised him.

Make no mistake. This book is vile. The ‘always conniving Jew uses their knowledge against the ignorance of the other’ or whatever nonsense Nietzsche wrote, hysterical women never can learn or write good literature, the German is superior, Machiavelli was a great thinker, and so on and so on. But, that’s not my real problem with this book since it’s easy to dismiss that has nothing but prejudices.

All of the perniciousness of fascism lurks within this book. All of Donald Trump and what he is trying to do against humanity is within this book. Equality is anathema for them. Humanism is irrelevant and dangerous to them. A great leader, according to Nietzsche is required in order to save us. Spengler made Julius Caesar his great leader while in this book Nietzsche did too, but also Napoleon would do, or until a Hitler comes along or a Trump. Trump has anointed himself as the self-appointed uber-mensch for our time.

[Anonymous No.19778919]

>>19778727
Nietzsche is really saying ‘stop thinking and follow me and let your feelings be your guide’. There is no being, there is only becoming and a great thinker will be needed to rise above the herd. A thinker who is not encumbered by sympathy, empathy or reciprocity and one who is a narcissist with socio-pathological tendencies would be Nietzsche’s ideal, and Hitler would fit the bill as would Trump. Somebody who would always be able to always say that they didn’t fail, but only those around them failed, since the uber-mensch is always right by definition and all failure must come from the herd.

Anyone who is not in synch with what Nietzsche desires is considered weak, corrupt and not worthy of consideration exactly how Trump campaigned in 2016, and all awhile fascist such as Trump projects their faux strength through bluster and flays against imaginary windmills and also real windmills as he babbles incoherently how the TV won’t work on non-windy days if we attach windmills to the power grid. Overall, Nietzsche makes as much sense as Trump does regarding windmills, and both are just as dangerous.

Nietzsche will say that morality is immoral and therefore only the morality that he feels is worthwhile or worthy of consideration since Truth is what an uber-mensch says it is. Of all the statements from fascist beware of the statement such as ‘stop thinking and follow me, and all facts are alternative facts, and no science is true except for the science I say’. All are ravings of a lunatic, but only a bigger lunatic could believe such crap, and Nietzsche does have that kind of crap within this book, and there will always be Fox News viewers who want to be afraid of the imaginary windmills. They only need to be told.

Spengler, Heidegger, Hitler and Ayn Rand loved this book and were influenced by it until they weren’t for a reason. This book gives a ground for the hate they want to practice, and ironically, a justification since in the end Nietzsche believes the only justification that exists is the justification that we make for ourselves, just like Donald Trump does.

Before I had read this book, I wasn’t sure that it was really representative of Nietzsche. But now, I’m fairly certain that it does represent him overall since so much of what was in this book seemed to overlap with what he had written elsewhere. In this book, he’s more explicit on his active nihilism, moralic acid and his contempt for democracy, equality and his always blaming the individual for not understanding that morality is immoral because he says it is, but overall, that only differs from what he previously said by degrees not kind. By putting all of his twiddle twaddle in one place the wanna be fascists were falsely lulled into a non-existence coherence within this guidebook on becoming a good fascist.

[Anonymous No.19778926]

TLDR: Don't read Nietzsche, he is a fascist.

>>19778856
Actually yes, we should dumb these ideas if the authors were fascistic racists.
>You'll be left with nothing before the 2000s.
You're implying that all the greatest writers, in the entire western canon, were chuds?
If so, then fine, nothing before the 2000's, and it'll be for the better

[Anonymous No.19779001]

>>19778727
>wiener
discarded

[Anonymous No.19779022]

>>19778727
He's unironically right, as in, that was Nietzsche's vision.
When he talks about the Superman (or Overman) it means a new breed/people.
His plan was a fusion and perfection of every single european race/country into one, and that race would have ruled the world.
That includes partially jews, and taking certain qualities from them .
You can agree or disagree that this is a good idea or not: you can't deny that this is precisely what Nietzsche desired

[Anonymous No.19779066]

>>19778913
What book

[Anonymous No.19779096]

>>19778727
I've read several of Nietzsche's books and I'm partway through The Gay Science. So far I don't see any political or racial ideas, mostly just psychological comments. I also started reading Will to Power which seems to contain a bit more political insights such as criticism of socialism but so far I haven't seen anything that implies a Nazi empire.

[Anonymous No.19779174]

>>19778727
>dominating all non-White people
This has nothing to do with Nietzsche.