/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.19115961]

Battle of Senken Castle edition

Previous Thread:>>19095308

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>>>/t/1023504

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Never going to be created.

[Anonymous No.19115985]

[Anonymous No.19116002]

>>19115961
You could have read a book about real historical sieges, instaid it giantment and an artist without a sense of perspective so it looks like they are going for the wall now.

[Anonymous No.19116035]

>>19116002
You're right, it does look like they're going to ram the wall, lol.

[Anonymous No.19116049]

>>19115945
>Is anything written by Abercrombie worth reading?
I would say no. I find his popularity in /sffg/ baffling. He had like two good characters in First Law, but that's all the praise I can give it. I could not recommend his books on the grounds that Glokta is an interesting character anymore than I could recommend a chair soaked in dog urine to sit in because it has nice embroidery.

[Anonymous No.19116273]

I love you 4channers, you are so cool

[Anonymous No.19116363]

Huh, apparently /outerlit/ is not doing anything for 4chan cup. Anybody up for usurping the team and filling it with 23 /sffg/ memes instead?

[Anonymous No.19116377]

>>19116363
>4chan cup
I've been here since 2006 and still don't know what this is.

[Anonymous No.19116389]

>>19116377
Retarded waste of time that is occasionally fun. The boards, in theory, are represented by the latest and popular memes in PES. AI vs AI games of football with board related music being played before the game, as anthems, and whenever goals are scored. There's a good modding scene to it so the aesthetics can be a reason to watch, although most of them are stolen models from other people's work.

[Anonymous No.19116393]

>>19116049
I accidentally heard Joe talking in a podcast. Holy shut the guy is cringe. The less I find out about writers the better.

It is as R Scott Bakker put it
>Reading an author’s blog is like looking up a tranny’s skirt. All you find is another dick.

[Anonymous No.19116394]

>middling at math
>lacking in spatial intelligence
>my vocabulary is stellar
Am I doomed to only understand fantasy or can I dip my toes into soft science fiction like Ballard?

[Anonymous No.19116397]

>>19114677

Magic steampunk robots and fighting between 1800s Dutch and French

[Anonymous No.19116401]

>>19116393
I correct myself, the actual quote word for word is:
>An author's blog is like a peek up a transvestite's skirt. Instead of something special, all you find is another dick.

[Anonymous No.19116405]

>>19115945

If you dial back your expectations a bit

[Anonymous No.19116464]

>>19115961
Is it just me or is Jerusalem way too long? He could've have removed half of it.

[Anonymous No.19116557]

>>19116377
See >>19113887

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.19116572]

>>19115961
The Wise Man's Fear, The Kingkiller Chronicle #2 - Patrick Rothfuss (2011)
What a wondrous mess. I read the first in 2010. This is a series, one of a few, that I've put off for a very long time, for no particular reason. It would've been better if I had read it in 2011.
The first quarter of the book is blissful, aside from the frame story and a few scenes, and an easy 5/5. As with the first book, it was very comfortable and nostalgic. The opening act did almost everything I could've possibly wanted from this sort of story. If the entire book were like this, I'd say it was one of my favorite books. Unfortunately, it became worse from there on. At first the diversions were an interesting change of pace, but then then the narrative veers sharply off course and all I could ask was, "But why?" and then when I thought that the story was getting back on track it instead intentionally goes in the opposite direction of its destination, literally and figuratively. The odd thing is that while I found these detours to be lacking in quality relative to the early part, they wouldn't have been unwanted in a different context. The problem was that the sidequests seemed nonsensical in terms of plot structure. I felt as if Rothfuss was just writing whatever he felt like without any concern. Although both of these books were nothing if not self-indulgent, which is entirely fine by me, this wasn't the sort I wanted. Even when the journey is what matters rather than the destination, I prefer the journey to be less arbitrary.
Unlike what many people seem to think about Denna, I didn't have any problem with her and I think she has gotten more hate than is warranted. I didn't have any problem with the polyamorous nymphomaniac Shaolin matriarchy that didn't understand the concept of pregnancy , but it didn't seem to be an organic inclusion. Considering the age of the protagonist and the setting, I don't think his views are that out of the ordinary. Yes, he's a wish-fulfillment character, especially with sex, which isn't really explicit, but that sort of character isn't something I take issue with.
There were various passages that could be considered self-referential to the author, though that may be reading too much into them. I fully understand why there may never be a third book, and if there were, that it would probably be entirely different. As there are books that are best read and may only be enjoyable for a person at a certain time in their life, there are books that can only be written at a certain point in the author's life, and that time may now have passed.
If the third book is released, I'll read it. This was a very difficult book for me to rate due to it being a quarter excellent, half ok, and a quarter baffling.
Rating: 3.5/5

/sffg/ GR (3.8)
5s: 25
4s: 14
3s: 9
2s: 5
1s: 6
59 ratings, highly read

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.19116578]

The Slow Regard of Silent Things, The Kingkiller Chronicle #2.5 - Patrick Rothfuss (2014)
The Author's Foreword starts with, "You might not want to buy this book." This is followed by various explanations and qualifications. So go the concerns people have about their own work, or perhaps more so, about their readers.
If you're interested in a naturalistic view of the the mundane activities of Auri's day-to-day life then this novella may interest you. It didn't interest me.
This may be at least semi-autobiographical in terms of thematic content, which would go a fair bit in explaining why there may never be a third book.
The illustrations, which vary in size and complexity, were an interesting inclusion. They didn't do much for me, but perhaps they're appreciated by others.
The Author's Endnote continues the theme from the foreword in justifying why this was published and who it was published for. For those it who don't enjoy it, it wasn't written for you. I think it was an editorial oversight to allow the inclusion of the foreword and endnote, but that's merely personal preference. I definitely could have done without the self-pity though.
Rating: 2.5/5

[Anonymous No.19116615]

>Behold the Man (1969) is a science fiction novel by British writer Michael Moorcock.

>He then makes his way to Nazareth in search of Jesus. When he finds Mary and Joseph, Mary turns out to be little more than a whore, and Joseph, a bitter old man, sneers openly at her claim to have been impregnated by an angel. Worse, their child Jesus is a profoundly intellectually disabled hunchback who incessantly repeats the only word he knows: Jesus, Jesus, Jesus.

fuck this kike

[Anonymous No.19116634]

>>19116615
Very edgy
Very subversive

[Anonymous No.19116648]

>>19116615
That'll show those Christians!

[Anonymous No.19116863]

>>19115961
>not!Book Club
now: the scar https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/68497.The_Scar
spooktober:
songs of a dead dreamer and grimscribe https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/24611567-songs-of-a-dead-dreamer-and-grimscribe
the dark eidolon and other fantasies https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18143067-the-dark-eidolon-and-other-fantasies
nov 1: assassin's apprentice https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/77197.Assassin_s_Apprentice

[Anonymous No.19116913]

>>19116615
why is moorcock so bitter? any time i see some opinion of his he's just extremely butthurt. does he resent his name?

[Anonymous No.19116946]

>the Wheel weaves as the Wheel wills

[Anonymous No.19116950]

>>19116946
You talkin' shit?

[Anonymous No.19117230]

>black and/or female writer
I do not read that book.

[Anonymous No.19117253]

>>19117230
Not /lit/ but /co/, I'd recommend Christopher Priest.

[Anonymous No.19117277]

>>19117230
Haha epic xD, have an upvote good sir. This is only le 500th time I've seen this ebin incel post.
Edit: thanks for the silver
Edit 2: thanks for the gold
Edit 3: WOW this really blew up overnight OMG 1k upvotes??

[Anonymous No.19117279]

>>19116464
yes by at least good 500 pages

[Anonymous No.19117283]

>>19115961
>Good Reads group
Is anyone at least posting quality reviews or something? Statistic done a year ago or so was kinda defeating.

[Anonymous No.19117299]

>>19117230
there are good female authors, but if you look at awards for the last five or so years its turned into bizarre world. you basically need to be a black woman to win anything and white women are now token nominees. if you squint hard enough you'll see a man winning something for a novelette.

[Anonymous No.19117302]

>>19117230
I don't think I've ever heard of a black /sffg/ writer. If I was black I'd be using a white pen name anyway.

[Anonymous No.19117309]

Thousandfold Thought readan log

> "I'm a demon!", Cnaiur said calmly. "Demon!!!111"
I'm tacitly hoping for buddy cop style adventures with Cnaiur and Conphas now, they should bro up with Consult too
Achamian, sadly, continues being a huge cuck while teaching his bvll various bullshit spells. Getting real tired of it, she's just a whore dude get over it

[Anonymous No.19117370]

>>19117277
What exactly do you think reddit is? Every /lit/ related subleddit is notoriously filled with SJWs.

[Anonymous No.19117373]

>>19117302
NK Jemisin. Broken Earth was good

[Anonymous No.19117385]

>>19117373
>The three books of her Broken Earth series made her the first author to win the Hugo Award for Best Novel in three consecutive years, as well as the first to win for all three novels in a trilogy
>2015~2017
Is it actually deserved or just woke culture?

[Anonymous No.19117386]

>>19117302
https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/15117586.P_Dj_l_Clark
American author who uses an ungabunga pseudonym to be as black as possible. Hasn't written a single good book, but the woke white women love Ring Shout.

[Anonymous No.19117393]

>During her delivery of the Guest of Honour speech at the 2013 Continuum in Australia, Jemisin pointed out that 10% of the Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America (SFWA) membership voted for alt-right writer Theodore Beale in his bid for the SFWA presidential position, stating that silence about Beale's views was the same as enabling them.[14] Beale's response to Jemisin was condemned as "an appallingly racist screed".[15] A link to his comments was tweeted on the SFWA Authors Twitter feed, and Beale was subsequently expelled from the organization after a unanimous vote by the SFWA Board

[Anonymous No.19117402]

I just finished the thousand fold thought
I HATE THE DUNYAIN
I HATE THE DUNYAIN
I HATE THE DUNYAIN
I HATE THE DUNYAIN
I HATE THE DUNYAIN
Akka needs justice

[Anonymous No.19117406]

>>19117393
i hate these people

[Anonymous No.19117410]

>>19117393
>HE RAYCIST
>doing the exact same thing BUT reversing the colors is not only acceptable, but applauded
I want off this world.

[Anonymous No.19117428]

>>19117385
The books are good but if you're afraid of woke you might get triggered.

[Anonymous No.19117440]

>>19117410
>the exact same thing
Typical disingenuous rightoid post. He was kicked out because he's a racist piece of shit, not because he's white.

[Anonymous No.19117441]

>>19117428
I like Gaiman's Sandman, how's that as a litmus test?

[Anonymous No.19117495]

I dont want to bring the alignment autism
But would the Dunyain from bakkers books be considered lawful evil or lawful neutral?

[Anonymous No.19117543]

>try to go back to reading actual fantasy novels
>still feel the pull to read power fantasy gamelit harem trash
god i love trashy smut so much bros

[Anonymous No.19117581]

>>19117441
I like both, so I don't understand, really. Is Sandman woke because it has few gay characters?

[Anonymous No.19117602]

>>19117283
Not in the group itself, no. You'll have to look at individual accounts or have them in your feed. Whether the reviews are quality is a personal decision.

[Anonymous No.19117622]

>>19117495
>The third edition D&D rules define "law" and "chaos" as follows:[10]
>Law implies honor, trustworthiness, obedience to authority, and reliability. On the downside, lawfulness can include closed-mindedness, reactionary adherence to tradition, judgmentalness, and a lack of adaptability. Those who consciously promote lawfulness say that only lawful behavior creates a society in which people can depend on each other and make the right decisions in full confidence that others will act as they should.
>Chaos implies freedom, adaptability, and flexibility. On the downside, chaos can include recklessness, resentment toward legitimate authority, arbitrary actions, and irresponsibility. Those who promote chaotic behavior say that only unfettered personal freedom allows people to express themselves fully and lets society benefit from the potential that its individuals have within them.
>Someone who is neutral with respect to law and chaos has a normal respect for authority and feels neither a compulsion to follow rules nor a compulsion to rebel. They are honest but can be tempted into lying or deceiving others if it suits them.
Dunyains seems to lean closer to chaos, lawfulness is the very thing they're trying to expunge from the human soul

[Anonymous No.19117625]

>>19117602
Or search in the group bookshelf

[Anonymous No.19117644]

>>19117543
There's nothing wrong with that. You are what you have to be.

[Anonymous No.19117692]

>>19117277
You are upset lmao

[Anonymous No.19117703]

>>19117410
It's not about race, it's about bending everyone to conform. Left doesn't give a shit what race you are, as long as you stay in line with the agenda. They'd have no issues culling unruly blacks too.

[Anonymous No.19117737]

>>19117703
So, that means the right culls for identify and agenda?

[Anonymous No.19117764]

>>19117737
There's no right in America. This will be the last political shitpost I'll make in this thread, go back to space elves discussions

[Anonymous No.19117796]

>>19117495
There is exact line in Aspect-Emperor when Mimara inspects Ishual, stating that Dunyain are responsible for great atrocities but without a tiniest evil intent on their part. I believe that they go under True Neutral with how specific and transcendent their dedication is.

[Anonymous No.19117920]

>>19116913
He's never recovered from meeting Tolkien. T-Dog must have made fun of him something fierce for being a dirty hippy.

[Anonymous No.19117927]

>>19117703
>Left doesn't give a shit what race you are
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.19117967]

>>19115961
>woman in epic fantasy battle
Kill yourself you fucking white knight

[Anonymous No.19117993]

>>19117967
Stay forever mad incel.

[Anonymous No.19118009]

>>19117764
There's no right anywhere.

[Anonymous No.19118018]

>>19117309
>she's just a whore dude get over it
yeah but shes like super hot and smart, beta male akka doesn't want to fuck with retarded bitches like all the other prostitutes(also the only girls who lay with him)

[Anonymous No.19118023]

>1000 page book
>first 300 pages is just pure lore (presented in the form of fictional chronicles/histories/letters/fables etc not just wikia dump)
>700 remaining pages, and every subsequent book is pure story with assumed knowledge of lore
Would you welcome such format? I thought how that might make for a smoother reading experience, and keep the author more honest (since the lore must be given a priori with no further alterations). Any new information can only be the information that characters learn within the story

[Anonymous No.19118032]

>>19118023
Probably not. Can't see myself reading 300 pages of setup without knowing what the story is about. The chronicles and histories would have to be absolutely enthralling.

[Anonymous No.19118036]

>>19118023
No. Wouldn't have much reason to care about the lore and would probably forget most of it by the time I got to the story.

[Anonymous No.19118042]

>>19118023
It could be okay but it sounds terrible to write. Unless you have an extremely solid 300 pages to work off of, you're absolutely going to be constantly revising your original lore dump as you write out your characters and story. Unless you go strict autism and refuse to let yourself deviate at all from what you wrote before hand, even to the detriment of the story.
You would be better off writing your whole story and explaining the parts that need to be explained in a lore dump, or even better just figure out to weave it into the actual story in a relevant manner.

[Anonymous No.19118054]

>>19118023
Absolutely terrible idea. Look at the relevant lore books by GRRM to see why.

[Anonymous No.19118200]

>>19118023
>lore
Already snoring.

[Anonymous No.19118265]

>reading is like looking up a tranny skirt, you just can't get enough of it

[Anonymous No.19118284]

>>19118265
Actually made me chuckle
t. Bakkerchad

[Anonymous No.19118286]

>>19118023
>first 300 pages is just pure lore

[Anonymous No.19118287]

>>19118284
some troons are anti sjw so it's ok, we like the hard troons not the soi limp dicked troons

[Anonymous No.19118310]

>>19118287
An author who causes this much butthurt in a tibetian basket weaving forum is a must read

[Anonymous No.19118344]

>tfw you're in burnout mode again
Sucks, bros. I still had more books lined up, but now I can't get motivated to read them after reading 9 books in like 6 weeks.

[Anonymous No.19118355]

>>19118344
It’s about forming a habit. Read everyday, even reading one page per day will get you started. Gradually increase page count.

[Anonymous No.19118361]

>>19118310
This is not a tibetian basket waving forum, this is a Bakkerchad forum

[Anonymous No.19118415]

>>19118344
There's nothing wrong with that. Do as you have to do and be not concerned.

[Anonymous No.19118920]

>>19118415
NOOO you have to read based book made by non sjw authors or you will be unbased and unredpilled and you will be a soigoi

[Anonymous No.19118954]

>>19118920
Empty your mind of such thoughts and your life shall improve.

[Anonymous No.19118965]

>Military science fiction novel
>>>Enemies are just giant, space-faring ant/spider aliens with a hive society/hierarchy

Why is it always this? Fuck you, Robert Heinlein...

[Anonymous No.19119005]

>>19117764
These covers are waaay too edgy for those goofy ass books

[Anonymous No.19119017]

>>19116615
Christcucks utterly BTFO lmao

[Anonymous No.19119020]

>Military science fiction novel
>The real enemy is earth/human military

[Anonymous No.19119073]

>>19119020
is this a thing? Sounds really cool actually, and I've read all the stupid fucking MSF out there.

[Anonymous No.19119366]

>>19119073
Nice jiggle and Bakkerchad in the back

[Anonymous No.19119452]

>>19119073
Based thot video ruining grandpa

[Anonymous No.19119502]

>>19118023
>300 pages of lore
Miss me with that gay shit

[Anonymous No.19119710]

What should I read next:
>Childhood's End
>Ringworld
>The Forever War
Or if they're all shit let me know.

[Anonymous No.19119729]

>>19119073
I read the first 3 books in the Frontline series. The main character is pretty much a sociopath who kills people without remorse until the 3rd book when suddenly the government they are fighting against who is trying to fight the new ayy threat is evil and incompetent and must be overthrown.

[Anonymous No.19119763]

I'm reading a book :3

[Anonymous No.19120043]

>>19119710
Read the first page of each and decide from that.

[Anonymous No.19120084]

>>19119763
Heretic!

[Anonymous No.19120118]

>>19117967
to be fair shes not even fighting

[Anonymous No.19120196]

>>19119073
Fiasco by Lem, not exactly military but describes story of aliens suddenly arriving and violently abusing locals for their own incomprehensible reason, only humans are not said locals as it usually happens in sci fi but ones doing the abuse.

[Anonymous No.19120205]

>>19118023
The LoGH books started similar, with the history dump at the start. The OVA adaptations were definitely better, with the history dump inserted during a lull in the midway point.

[Anonymous No.19120310]

>>19118286
>>19118200
>>19118036
You won't believe how many people (myself included) enjoy wandering through 40K wikia with no intention of ever reading its books or playing the games

[Anonymous No.19120326]

Where to start, as a sci-fi beginner?

[Anonymous No.19120389]

is alastair reynolds good

[Anonymous No.19120394]

>>19116615
He always wrote about parallel worlds

[Anonymous No.19120404]

>>19118965
Who was the guy who wrote Star Wars books who wrote some decent military sci fi?

[Anonymous No.19120459]

>>19120310
The 40k wiki jumps around 30 years worth of material, instead of just one story/world. You're essentially filtering it down from like tens of millions of words into interesting wiki snippets plucked from hundreds of novels.

The anon is talking about putting 600 pages of pure worldbuilding BEFORE his story.

[Anonymous No.19120468]

>>19120459
*300 pages, thought it was wordcount for a minute.

[Anonymous No.19120522]

this shit good

[Anonymous No.19120567]

>>19120522
What a truly radiant endorsement!

[Anonymous No.19120608]

Wow Eye of the World is a fucking slog. Does it or the series get better? About halfway through it right now

[Anonymous No.19120636]

>>19120608
its YA schlock

[Anonymous No.19120708]

>>19120326
Ender's Game

[Anonymous No.19120742]

is "eyes of the dragon" by stephen king good?

[Anonymous No.19120759]

>>19118965
>Alien species
>All look the same with no individual distinctions such as clothes or hairstyle

[Anonymous No.19120825]

>>19120567
it really really good

[Anonymous No.19120835]

>>19120742
I liked it. Not the best fantasy ever, but it's pretty fun, especially if you're interested in the whole King mythos, like all the dark tower shit

[Anonymous No.19120838]

>>19120759
>10000 years in the future
>Everyone has mid 2010s danger hair styles

[Anonymous No.19120851]

>>19120825
Me very very believe

[Anonymous No.19120937]

>>19120835
are they related?

[Anonymous No.19120960]

>>19119710
They're all shit. Childhood's End is at least memorably shit

[Anonymous No.19120965]

>>19120937
The same bad guy, and also some other minor connects. It's not essential to read one to enjoy the other though

[Anonymous No.19120971]

>>19119710
Integral Trees is better than Ringworld

[Anonymous No.19120975]

>>19120522
>female author

[Anonymous No.19121009]

>>19116615
Behold the Man is unironically based.

[Anonymous No.19121017]

>>19120608
What exactly is it that you don't like so far?
>TAMYN

[Anonymous No.19121046]

>>19121017
Mostly I feel that the pacing is a bit slow and that I've read a nearly 400 page travel montage with a few bits of actual substance in between. But I hate that the party just split up. I hate the combinations of characters in the three new parties. I hate how some of the characters randomly act like complete idiots for reasons. I hate Mat. Fuck I hate that guy.

[Anonymous No.19121047]

>>19121009
based on what

[Anonymous No.19121163]

>>19120975
I hate women as much as everyone, but what is
>Robin Hobb
>Katherine Kerr

[Anonymous No.19121177]

>>19121163
Your personal exceptions.

[Anonymous No.19121216]

>>19121046
Travel becomes less of a thing later on, there's still a hefty amount in the next 2 books but also more time spent at fixed settings for a third of the characters.
Can't say much for how you feel about the combinations, those specific groupings don't happen again.
Mat gets a lot better, have you gotten to Caemlyn yet? I'd recommend reading on until the party is reunited at least.

[Anonymous No.19121320]

>>19120975
Based thanks for telling me before I put it on my interest list

[Anonymous No.19121445]

>>19121177
Excellent rebuttal you retarded niggerjew.

[Anonymous No.19121470]

>>19121445
Thanks!

[Anonymous No.19121503]

Why does it seem sci-fi and the space opera are considered garbage genres of no worth? I've noticed this weird stigma against it for a while and don't get it

[Anonymous No.19121526]

>>19121503
Sci-fi is not viewed that way, and has some manner of acceptance in the literary establishment. Fantasy is the genre that is viewed as complete trash.

[Anonymous No.19121535]

>>19121526
Um, no, magical realism exists.

[Anonymous No.19121546]

>>19121535
No one considers that to be part of the fantasy genre.

[Anonymous No.19121548]

>>19121503
Genre fiction in general is seen as having little to no literary merit because genres are inherently cliched. Writing that conforms to genre conventions lacks the necessary level of authenticity or ambiguity of "literary" fiction. Generally if a book is seen as worthy of criticism it's not counted as a true example of genre fiction, since if it was, it'd likely have too many cliches to be considered interesting.

[Anonymous No.19121554]

>>19121526
>Sci-fi is not viewed that way
No it definitely is. The only subset of sci-fi that has managed to eke out even the tiniest bit of respect is "speculative fiction" and even this is not regarded as being worthy of scholarly critique in most cases.

[Anonymous No.19121586]

Just finished reading pic related; what did I think of it? Well I thought it was BASED. Aztec/Mayan inspired S&S story that flew by at less than 160 pages. Very breezy read; in fact maybe a bit TOO breezy since I would have liked a bit more of that Aztec/Mayan flavoring, but too many modern writers get bogged down in minutia like that and it felt like this guy was specifically avoiding that trap. Definitely looking forward to future sequels.

[Anonymous No.19121592]

>>19121548
>genres are inherently cliched
What an astoundingly idiotic take, no insult to you anon. All of fiction has its cliches.

[Anonymous No.19121699]

>>19120389
Depends on the book. Give Pushing Ice a go.

[Anonymous No.19121708]

Why is fantasy and sci-fi lumped together in the same general? Why not go all in and call it 'genre fiction general'?

[Anonymous No.19121781]

>>19121592
>All of fiction has its cliches.
Genre fiction, not literary fiction. That's literally the difference. It's that simple.

[Anonymous No.19121785]

>>19121708
Cause interests in those genres overlap more than other genres. There have been short lived generals for other genres, some uppity sci-fi folks even tried splitting the generals and came crawling back. That's happened like 4 or 5 times now.

[Anonymous No.19121808]

Why is SJW lit and Hard Gay lit lumped together in the same general? Why not go all in and call it 'troon general'?

[Anonymous No.19121889]

>>19121785
ok, fair enough.

[Anonymous No.19122076]

>>19121526
>>19121554
I feel in recent years there's been a big boom in SFF-like many other "nerdy" things it's gained popularity amongst the masses. This has more or less been detrimental, look how many franchises have been completely shit upon and how bad the current state of affairs are. Even literature has become a mess, awards these days are a complete joke, given out to whoever can hit the most diversity checkmarks and even those who play ball end up on the receiving end of the mob too. Case in point George rr Martin, who tries to pander to the wokies and ends up getting absolutely lamblasted by them for mispronouncing some ooga booga name(truly a heinous crime that makes milosevic looks like mother theresa, i know)

I feel fantasy less so, but it's kinda on the periphery and wouldn't take much to end up in the crosshairs

[Anonymous No.19122134]

>>19116464
i think the middle bit goes too long

[Anonymous No.19122252]

>>19122076
I've only read ASOIAF from GRRM but at least in that I saw no woke pandering. Quite the contrary in many cases. See retards like Preston Jacobs making video essays about how Brienne is breaking ''arbitrary gender norms'', like any woman in ASOIAF was perfectly capable of being a badass warrior lady that needs no knight. Even the genetic freak that is Brienne has been disfigured beyond recognition for losing against random bandits...

[Anonymous No.19122321]

I'm looking to get into PKD -- what stories of his are the most scary/unnerving in your opinion? I'm interested in anything with simulated realities or time loops

[Anonymous No.19122335]

>>19115961
Is Foundation good? Should I just watch the series?

[Anonymous No.19122365]

>>19122335
Read it

[Anonymous No.19122393]

>>19117230
Your loss, fuckwit.

[Anonymous No.19122404]

>>19117495
"I dont want to"
>Does
So obviously you wanted to, you hypocrite.

[Anonymous No.19122414]

>>19118023
No. It is the exact opposite of what to do. Space out infodumps so they don't come across as dumpy, and the way they should come up is by their relevance in relation to the ongoing story.

[Anonymous No.19122552]

I should reread Hyperion

[Anonymous No.19122827]

Are any of the Warhammer 40k books up to /lit/ standard?
I know hardly anything about 40k but what I do know greatly intrigues me

[Anonymous No.19122857]

>>19122827
/lit/ standard is anti sjw and hard, only the hardest books get accepted by us

[Anonymous No.19123094]

>>19122827
Dan Abnett is legitimately good, especially the Eisenhorn books, which are what most people say to read first anyway. Other than that, I think the really old school shit is dope. Ian Watson wrote the very first 40k novels, Inquisitor, Space Marine, Harlequin, and they are pretty fucking wild. Supposedly Stanley Kubrick even considered making a movie of either Inquisitor or Space Marine, I can't remember which. There's also another old one called The Eye of Terror by J Barrington Bayley that's weird and good. I've heard Aaron Dembski-Bowden's shit is good but I haven't gotten around to reading it yet. Oh yeah, and Crossfire by Matthew Farrer is really well written. There are sequels, but they feel rushed.
But most all of the newer shit sucks imo

[Anonymous No.19123102]

This general survives entirely because of the lowest quality posting that are bumps in disguise done by those who can't bear to see it pass away. It's time. End thread support.

[Anonymous No.19123105]

>>19121163
and
>CJ Cherryh
>S.L. Viehl
>Melanie Rawn
>Kristine Katheryn Rusch

[Anonymous No.19123115]

>>19123105
No woman no cry.

[Anonymous No.19123200]

>>19121046
Mat is the best character in the series, it just takes a few books long while for him to become interesting. If you are truly annoyed by characters making dumb decisions, you should stop reading now.

[Anonymous No.19123223]

>>19117302
Check who's been winning all the Hugos lately.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Award_for_Best_Novel

[Anonymous No.19123234]

>>19120971
>Integral Trees
That does sound like I'd enjoy it more.
I'll switch them out.
>>19120960
Should I skip Clarke entirely or would recommend anything by him?

[Anonymous No.19123236]

>>19123223
>Every 2019, 2020, and 2021 nominee is a woman
What a fucking joke

[Anonymous No.19123256]

>>19123236
What do you expect? Men don't really read fiction anymore.
Also, that's just for best novel; they have other categories, too.

[Anonymous No.19123270]

>>19123256
Men don't not read at all. Men are dropping out of everything in general at an ever accelerating rate.

[Anonymous No.19123273]

>>19123256
I'd expect them to at least keep up some meager pretense that this isn't a total farce.

[Anonymous No.19123274]

>>19115961
Made this years ago and forgot about it.

[Anonymous No.19123283]

>>19123273
Well what new book have you read that you enjoyed?
>>19123270
What can we do about it, anon?

[Anonymous No.19123300]

>>19123283
>Well what new book have you read that you enjoyed?
Nothing of course. Wouldn't matter if I had. I have no say in any of this.

[Anonymous No.19123302]

as i see it, dysevolution of the human skull will futher exacerbate the normalization of cosmetic surgery allowing for """""bad genes""""" to be hidden under custom implants. we are heading towards a world where everyone is born looking deformed but fixes it with surgery. so you'll have David Gandy's head on a genetic wheel chair bound cripples body the era of cripple slayers

has anyone covered similar sci-fi ground to the above?

[Anonymous No.19123304]

>>19123300
You can have a say. People get to vote in person at a con.

[Anonymous No.19123314]

>>19123304
I wouldn't go to a convention.

[Anonymous No.19123331]

>>19123302
At that point why isn't humanity just fixing the bad genes in the womb? Or even inventing "gene steroids" guys can inject into their balls to ensure their offsprings are stronger and smarter than before?

[Anonymous No.19123360]

>>19123283
Leave 4chan. Disengage from falsity. Live in truth.

[Anonymous No.19123376]

>>19123283
>What can we do about it, anon?
Let it rot

[Anonymous No.19123392]

Any recommended books heavily focused on economics, similar to Spice & Wolf?

[Anonymous No.19123437]

>>19123115
corn meal porridge

[Anonymous No.19123443]

>>19123331
I have it under the assumption that you can't edit the really specific body proportions with gene editing , e.g. how long is his left supra-orbital rim, you know what i mean? Like you can't tell how its going to look from the dna sequence, unless they have collected huge amounts of data to make reasonable predictions.

You could say, make the offspring super high T which does have a huge affect (by injecting balls as you pointed out or something along those lines)...so its something to consider but i want to keep it to one issue and not introduce a bunch of other shit , because at the end of day its just fictional idea

[Anonymous No.19123452]

>>19123234
different anon but I like Clarke. Not the greatest author ever but I all of the 2001 books and Rama were entertaining. Haven't read Childhood's End

[Anonymous No.19123470]

>>19123392
It isn't though.

[Anonymous No.19123483]

>>19123234
I thought Clarke's Earthlight was very good.

[Anonymous No.19123488]

How the fuck did Kellhus survive hanging upside down for several days?

[Anonymous No.19123489]

>>19119710
The Forever War is great.

[Anonymous No.19123508]

>>19121306

The Sheep Look Up is my favorite Brunner book

[Anonymous No.19123510]

when is Kaladin gonna jump hump for his buddies Shallan and Adolin??

[Anonymous No.19123544]

>Medieval tards were able to deduce Daimotic sorcery for interacting with Outside
>Medieval tards were able to produce human with sufficient mental capacities to (allegedly) handle thread from gods through primitive eugenic bruteforcing
>Creators of Inchoroi had advanced bioengineering in addition to other shit, probably were able to incur more modification by reassembling dna once than Dunyain with 2k years of extreme negative eugenics.
>Didn't do anything to combine two even though they knew about sorcery (Aurang uses sorcery)
That's pretty huge plot hole. If eugenics for all its wastefulness and unreliability can produce one Kellhus, then bioengineering at the level of Inchoroi should have no issues pumping out any number of minds who will make Kellhus look like a drooling retard, master sorcery at unimaginable level, walk into outside and make the ciphrang-"gods" fuck off. But alas, even if part 3 comes out Consult Dunyain probably won't do anything in that direction with Tekne they came into possession off, even though they were busy trying same shit with primitive means just recently.

[Anonymous No.19123549]

>>19123544
huh

[Anonymous No.19123566]

>>19123360
No

[Anonymous No.19123668]

>>19123566
Then you consign yourself to oblivion.

[Anonymous No.19123712]

>In 2007, Niven, in conjunction with a think tank of science fiction writers known as SIGMA, founded and led by Dr. Arlan Andrews, Sr., began advising the U.S. Department of Homeland Security as to future trends affecting terror policy and other topics.[19]
>Among those topics was reducing costs for hospitals to which Niven offered the solution to spread rumors in Latino communities that organs were being harvested illegally in hospitals.[20]

[Anonymous No.19123719]

>>19123510
Mormons are basically a completely different culture enclave inside the United States

[Anonymous No.19123760]

>>19122252
You realize ASoIaF was started in 1995 right? It mostly predates the current woke fad. Of course there's no pandering in it, it wasn't fashionable to pander to that crowd yet. GRRM basically stopped publishing new novels right as the craze was starting to take off in the '10s, which is also when the TV adaptation of his books started getting really, really bad, in part due to the woke pandering that crept into it.

[Anonymous No.19123769]

>>19123712
kek

[Anonymous No.19123772]

>>19123549
bakkerschizo rambling, just filter a few keywords and you won't see it

[Anonymous No.19123782]

>>19122076
>Case in point George rr Martin, who tries to pander to the wokies and ends up getting absolutely lamblasted by them for mispronouncing some ooga booga name
What happened?

[Anonymous No.19123803]

>>19123760
I know. The show is probably responsible for attracting some wokies to the ASOIAF fandom, not the text itself. If Winds turns out to be consistent with the previous titles I have nothing to complain there. We have no reason to assume GRRM will lower himself to such pandering, he's more of a 70's hippie than a modern SJW anyway.

[Anonymous No.19123823]

>>19123803
He's basically an old school showbiz pervert. He was a TV writer before he was a novelist, and his inspiration for GoT was to write a fantasy series that "couldn't be done on TV", similar to LotR. Seeing LotR adapted to films just a few years after he published his "unfilmable" novel series probably got him thinking about if his own books could make it in TV. I can remember even as early as 2007 or so there were talks of an HBO adaptation. Back in those days we thought the series was actually going to end in our lifetime, book 4 just came out in 2005 and everybody was sure we'd see book 5 in a year or so. Little did we know it'd take him half a decade to write it, and that this would be the last entry to the series.

[Anonymous No.19123832]

>>19123803
>If Winds turns out to be
lmao

[Anonymous No.19123860]

>>19123823
>>19123832
The man lost the steam but Winds HAS to be at least 70% done. I believe it will see publication but ADOS and finishing the series? 0% chance of happening and I made peace with it.

[Anonymous No.19123861]

>>19118965
I really like the Buggers.
They feel really alien all the way to the end and I'm still not sure whether or not it was an ethical act for Ender to blast them all to base molecules, given how the Hive Queens are basically holding their entire race in thrall and see nothing wrong with it.

[Anonymous No.19123865]

>>19123860
>but Winds HAS to be at least 70% done
See I used to think that too, but anymore I've just resigned to it never coming out. I've already gone through the 5 stages of grief, but you're still stuck in denial, or maybe bargaining.

[Anonymous No.19123872]

>>19115961
Anyone got ebook links to:
Beyond Time and Memory: An Exploration of the Fiction of Gene Wolfe: 1987 to 1990 by Marc Aramini
Gene Wolfe's The Book of the New Sun: A Chapter Guide by Michael Andre-Driussi

[Anonymous No.19123888]

>>19118965
>military sci-fi novel
>aliens are straight up superior to humans in every way, including physical attractiveness
>colonize earth in direct parallel to British colonization of India

[Anonymous No.19123902]

>>19123544
Do we actually know if the progenitors know about sorcery? Aurang could have easily learned sorcery after they crash landed and all the tekne got fucked.

[Anonymous No.19123904]

>>19123861
>whether or not it was an ethical act
They were spacefaring alien species that spilled human blood twice as aggressor. Ethics kinda get put on hold in situations like this, unless you want possibility of Darwin award for your own species. Sure you might feel kinda sad sometimes for whacking them when it wasn't really necessary, but turning whole deal into a quasi-religious cult of guilt for entire species is beyond overreaction. Moralfagging there got even worse in later books where everything went full retard, part when one character contemplates if it's ethical to reduce capacities of body horror bioweapon virus affecting planet in question.

[Anonymous No.19123912]

>>19123772
>do NOT talk about books in a non-shitposting manner

[Anonymous No.19123928]

>>19123912
posting the same rambling non-sequitur garbage every thread isn't "discussion" and the only reason you get away with it is because this board has zero mods

[Anonymous No.19124014]

>>19123902
You can't just learn sorcery, you have to be born with affinity to it which is extremely rare. This affinity might be something biology-related too, from school numbers only one out of many thousands are Few but in Kellhus bloodline it's at least 3 generations in a row, including 2 of his children Survivor mentioned he saw the mark when Ishual got blasted by erratics. So it was extremely unlikely that Aurang just turned out to be one of Few, he either was made as one, or was reworked after crash based on what they have learned about brains of magic users.

[Anonymous No.19124112]

heyo is there any space for incel sci-fi? i want to make something overtly incel but not women hating , more as an outside observer looking in.
alas i'm too dumb to write in allegory so it would need to something literal and concrete.

please suggest ideas that aren't too fireworks to the twitterer's amongst us.

[Anonymous No.19124117]

>>19116615
>Moorcock
Anon, his surname is basically BBC. He was always pozzed.

[Anonymous No.19124176]

>>19124014
But isn't sorcery and access to the "gods" an Earwa specific trait? I don't think it's likely that Aurang was altered after the crash considering that a lot tekne was damaged and most of the survivors didn't know how a lot of the shit even worked. Why wouldn't they have given all the surviving Inchoroi the ability of magic, like Sil? Or maybe they did but the Nonmen still just killed them all. I also feel if there was anything to learn from the human body regarding sorcery, Kellhus or anyone before him would have discovered it and potentially learned how to just surgically enable sorcery for non users.
Kellhus also refers to the Few as those who "recollect the God's voice" and have a "memory of the thousand eyes that look out from this clearing we call ‘here.’". It could just be a convenient excuse to propagate sorcery further, or he could just be wrong considering the fact that Aurang has used sorcery.

[Anonymous No.19124213]

>>19124117
i have a dream that someday a man will be judged not by the color of his skin, but by the size of his cock.

[Anonymous No.19124241]

>>19123832
>>19123860
>>19123865

It's jus weird how we had a ton of spin-off/supplementary material in the meantime, most of which is great, too. World of Ice and Fire, Dunk & Egg 3, Fire and Blood part 1.

[Anonymous No.19124260]

>>19124176
>But isn't sorcery and access to the "gods" an Earwa specific trait?
Definitely not considering gods and aliens learning about them was the reason all of this shit happens in first place. They probably weren't even malicious even as they were designing rape monsters, just pragmatic and looking for most optimal way to achieve what they need and causing finite suffering to prevent infinite suffering was acceptable tradeoff. They said that there is something special about this world and somehow Outside can be severed from there, but it's not said why exactly. Devise on the ship that was made to look into Outside was definitely made before they have arrived.

[Anonymous No.19124321]

Why can't E William Brown
FUCKING PUBLISH?

[Anonymous No.19124354]

>>19124321
Dude, either stop supporting him via patreon or just move on already.

[Anonymous No.19124467]

Writing a sci-fi war story using a real conflict as the base foundation

I am wondering how much i should change, i scrambled the names of locations and unit formations but im wondering if i should change the countries and factions too

[Anonymous No.19124630]

>>19124260
Is there any indication that they knew about sorcery before landing on Earwa and having it used against them? They didn't have chorae on hand when they landed, they needed it to be made for them after the fact. Surely if they knew that sorcery existed, they would have been more prepared for it, if not wielding it en masse.
Also by "access to the gods", I meant a more direct access, like being able to potentially interact with them(i.e. starve). They seem to believe that Earwa is the only place to achieve this goal.
>They probably weren't even malicious even as they were designing rape monsters
The creation of the rape monsters was more for morale support than anything, they needed to stack on so much "sin" that the progenitors and their creations could never falter in their conviction, instilling in them that there is no other path besides severing themselves from the gods completely.
>Devise on the ship that was made to look into Outside
The Inverse Fire is interesting, but it's almost certainly a creation of Tekne like everything else on the ship. I've always been a bit skeptical on whether or not it shows an actual depiction of 'damnation', or merely an experience so intense that it makes the onlooker believe so. After all, it's was their best recruitment tool.
It is odd that the only person to travel to the Outside and back referred to it as a 'goad' though.

[Anonymous No.19124633]

>>19124467
Why are you asking us? Go to /wg/ for that shit.

[Anonymous No.19124651]

>>19124633
Yeah i usually do that i just wanted to see what its like in here

[Anonymous No.19124681]

what are some comfy smallscale sci-fi that you've read? I mean stuff that's set in a big world that isn't explored intentially, its all left to the imagination and focused on some poor chumps day to day menial stuff?

[Anonymous No.19124711]

If Malazan and Bakker aren’t in your top three

You have been filtered hard.

To read for enjoyment is good.

To be intellectually poked and prodded is better.

To reach full moon total eclipse of the inner eye is final destination and filter elimination.

Further to the last I recently read the vagrant and found is quite shite - he isn’t even a vagrant and nor does he act like one. Imagine if I wrote a novel called the shit and the mc wasn’t defecate nor did he smell - you would give me one or two star reviews.

Unless of course I titled it the shit as some sort of meta joke - a title such as this would likely fit this thread.

[Anonymous No.19124721]

Last thread I thought okay ill not shitpost about Bakker for once. Tried to start something going considering another fantasy writer and no one replied. Back to Bakker shitting it is

[Anonymous No.19124727]

>>19123928
Why haven't mods done anything with the rampant bakker shitposts?

[Anonymous No.19124760]

Gotten tired of epic fantasy honestly. I just want to read about people going on an adventure or something.

[Anonymous No.19124775]

>>19124711
you almost got me to reply

[Anonymous No.19124782]

>>19124760
Sword & Sorcery, bro.

[Anonymous No.19124783]

>>19117277
Nigger.

[Anonymous No.19124804]

post irony was a mistake and every board having post IDs would cut down on shitposting immensly.

[Anonymous No.19124828]

>>19124804
yes and we need some kind of up/down voting system too.

[Anonymous No.19124832]

>>19124828
post IDs aren't usernames, reddit-kun

[Anonymous No.19124848]

>>19124832
oh apologies I felt like I was talking to a fellow redditor from your post

[Anonymous No.19124853]

>>19124782
Yeah I'm probably going to try getting into this. Never bothered before but it seems to be the obvious choice now.

[Anonymous No.19124886]

>>19124804
The real mistake is 4chans descent from "an anonymous image board to have discussions without need to hold back or be shackled by identity" to "that funny meme website for shitposts before returning to REAL discussion websites like reddit".

[Anonymous No.19124929]

>>19124853
Check out Rogues of Merth. Short story collection about two bros going on adventures together. It's a breezy read and a good gateway-tier book for modern S&S.

[Anonymous No.19124947]

>>19117385
First book is okay, subsequent books get worse and worse. Wokism definitely played a role, the characters are just woke clichés.

[Anonymous No.19124963]

>>19124354
>implying I'm a pay piggie
Also he stopped with patreon. He is a Substar fagget now.

[Anonymous No.19124970]

Is there much good "secondary literature" on science fiction, like history of the genre or analyses of the themes dealt with, tracking the introduction of new concepts?

[Anonymous No.19124972]

>>19117385
She's a lunatic leftist black woman. What do you think?

[Anonymous No.19125013]

>>19122252
>for losing against random bandits...
Rorge and Biter were no random bandits, they were Westeros most wanted criminals. Though ofc idea of sending black cells prisoners to the Wall were retarded.

[Anonymous No.19125030]

>>19124929
Thanks, I'll check it out

[Anonymous No.19125063]

>>19123872
Here's the second one (on 4n0nf1l3s dot c0m)
>/52gaY5J7uf/Andre-Driussi_Michael_Wolfe_Gene_-_Lexicon_Urthus-A_Dictionary_for_the_Urth_Cycle_2008_Sirius_Fiction_9780964279506_9780964279513_-_libgen.lc_mobi
>/z1g0Y0Jdu6/Lexicon_Urthus-A_Dictionary_for_the_Urth_Cycle_by_Andre-Driussi_Michael_Wolfe_Gene_z-lib.org_mobi

[Anonymous No.19125175]

>>19122393
He isn't losing out on a damn thing

[Anonymous No.19125262]

>>19124886
There's many reasons, and I don't think that's the most important. The biggest is the change in the sort of person who uses 4chan over nearly 20 years. More so in recent years.

[Anonymous No.19125581]

>>19125030
Based

[Anonymous No.19125598]

>>19124963
>Substar fagget
But that's where all the real good shit is

[Anonymous No.19125599]

>>19125581
okay now this is kino

[Anonymous No.19125696]

>>19125599
>yfw I don't remember where I saved that picture from and an image search can't find it anywhere online
Talk about spoopy.

[Anonymous No.19125705]

>>19125696

[Anonymous No.19125720]

starting Hyperion, what am I in for?

[Anonymous No.19125735]

>>19125705
Yandex and tinyeye turned up nothing.

[Anonymous No.19125762]

>>19125720
Spoopy murder bird and immortal retards. Don’t read books three or four.

[Anonymous No.19125780]

>>19125735
tineye blows

[Anonymous No.19125791]

an earth orbit noir story about an entertainer who's sick of indulgent retards who just go on space cruises to impress friends, picrel. Ok enough idea, picrel?

[Anonymous No.19125820]

>>19125063
Thank you my man.

[Anonymous No.19125826]

>>19125063
Lexicon Urthus is not the same book as A Chapter Guide by Michael Andre-Driussi,

[Anonymous No.19125849]

>>19120326
Start with the greeks

[Anonymous No.19125874]

>>19123094
>>19122827
Eisenhorn fucking slaps

[Anonymous No.19125908]

>>19125849
This. The Odyssey is the quintessential pulp sci-fi story

[Anonymous No.19125941]

>>19125890

[Anonymous No.19125994]

its the year 2080

what happened to cause picrel to be your average soldier/cop?

[Anonymous No.19125999]

>>19125820
>>19125826
fug, here's the chapter guide:
>/t48dZ8Jeu1/_Michael_Andre-Driussi_Gene_Wolfe_s_The_Book_of_the_New_Sun_A_Chapter_Guide_epub

[Anonymous No.19126033]

>>19124321
Shill me his books anon.

[Anonymous No.19126074]

>>19125994
Some kid raised on /pol/ gets elected supreme chancellor of the Holy Roman German Khaganate

[Anonymous No.19126135]

>>19124681
its a manga but Yokohama Kaidashi Kikō is basically that

[Anonymous No.19126152]

>>19125994
Sudden rapid advancement in medicine/technology led to extreme cybernetic upgrades to become extremely cheap and widespread, especially the the black-market. Criminals, now able to become living arsenals, need highly trained soldiers to stop them.

[Anonymous No.19126155]

>>19124681
Next you'll be asking for something about a guy posting on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.19126161]

>>19126155
lol fair point

[Anonymous No.19126678]

>>19125013
they weren't elite fighters though just insane maniacs

[Anonymous No.19126738]

>>19122414
This guy gets it

[Anonymous No.19126741]

>>19123488
he praise the logos holla holla

[Anonymous No.19126748]

>>19116394
Either that Or The Martian would be good. I started there and had some good success with getting back into sci-fi.

[Anonymous No.19126850]

>>19125013
>>19126678
She had professional training from a master at arms in a castle from a young age, was wearing full plate armor and wielding a valyrian steel sword. Maybe she shouldn't lose to some maniac whose specialty is biting people? I would sooner put my life in the hands of a random mercenary than a woman knight, even a genetic freak like Brienne.

[Anonymous No.19126854]

>>19125013
>Though ofc idea of sending black cells prisoners to the Wall were retarded.

By that time the Night's Watch was a pretty decadent institution close to collapse, they would take literally anyone.

[Anonymous No.19126897]

>>19126854
Doesn't make sense since Robert's rebellion would have given the Night's watch fresh blood.

[Anonymous No.19126934]

>>19126850
realistically speaking I would take a female knight (assuming they aren't just some nobles daughter larping), I'd favor the top 5 or 10% of women (with better equipment) over a random mercenary, Women is going to be weaker but I would assume they are much more skilled which would make the difference if both fighters aren't wearing full plate with helmets. The average guy would get destroyed by a skilled woman in HEMA today for example, they move super quick and know all the parry into instant kill counter moves.

>>19126897
random peasants fighting for the targaryans probably weren't punished for it and were just sent home, so its only really nobles and some knights who would be send to the wall, some would have been killed in the fighting/escaped home and others would have been pardoned and not sent to the wall.

there's also probably a demographic issue, if the wall 100 years ago had 10k men and now has 1-2k, the older members which make up a larger portion of the watch are going to be dying at a rapid rate.

[Anonymous No.19126959]

Are there online text-to-epub addons that work with novelupdates? I currently use webtoepub but I don't know how to manually configure it for the website.

[Anonymous No.19126972]

>>19126934
A random mercenary has probably survived a couple battles, has some experience with real violence and life or death situations, is battle hardened. A female knight is most likely sheltered and only has experience with sport events, has a high probability of cracking under the pressure after the first hit or simply get overwhelmed. And that is taking into account that she had good training, has superb, exceptional genetics for a woman and is in peak condition to even start having a chance against the average mercenary.

[Anonymous No.19126982]

>>19123223
I’ve never heard of those authors or those books. I’m curious about actual numbers, which authors sell most books?

[Anonymous No.19127065]

>>19126972
>Being this idiotic.

[Anonymous No.19127132]

>>19116863
>ov 1: assassin's apprentice https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/77197.Assassin_s_Apprentice
Finished this not that long ago.
Latinoamerican soap opera in a fantasy book format. As shit as that sounds. Completely unimaginative, full of melodrama. Stay away if you have an ounce of testosterone in your body. If you are a basedboy or have a vagina can check it out.

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I like watching Daniel Greene. Any book he recommends I know to stay away from.

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>>19118361
Ive heard there are gay sex in Bakker, I never oculd undersant if he is some proto sjw or not.
Also how come a book with gay sex be based?
Sell me on bakker,

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>>19127065
Calm down, Preston.

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>>19127227
Rorge and Biter are criminals, and never were mercenaries.

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>>19127249
What the fuck are you talking about? I never said they were, I said I would prefer the odds of a random mercenary fighting them, instead of a woman knight.

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>>19127249
They joined the Brave Companions for a short while, so yes, they were mercenaries.

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>>19126972
>And that is taking into account that she had good training, has superb, exceptional genetics for a woman and is in peak condition to even start having a chance against the average mercenary.
Did you even read the novels? Because holy shit it reads as if you didn’t.

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>>19127264
They didn't join shit. The Brave Companions weren't even a mercenary group at that point, they were nothing more than bandits and vagabonds.

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>>19127265
Female knight, warriors and fighters are certainly not the norm on Westeros, and females fighters that stand out are even rarer.

>but the free folk and Bear Island!

lol

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>>19127286
Didn’t Brienne already proved herself by winning a tourney hosted by Renault?

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>>19127317
Yes, she proved that she's really good at sports.
The subsequent events also proved that sports are very different from life or death fights.

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>>19127317
>by winning a tourney hosted by Renault

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>>19127325
>Trained knights since childhood are somehow weaker than common born mercenaries.

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>>19127337
They are not weaker but they were participating in organized SPORT. Can't you grasp the difference?

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>>19127337
Makes sense if you stop thinking. A Female Knight trained since childhood by Master-at-Arms will always be defeated by a bandit who terrorized the peasants.

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Please note that we are soon nearing the post count of 310 and the anime nigger will nowadays post new thread even before this limit is reached. Please make a new thread before him (he will never be a woman).

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>>19127452
His art is better than yours and you need to stop being so obsessed.

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>>19127452
>anime
Do you even know what that is? Because you call everything anime and call everyone trannie if they disagree with you.

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>>19127460
No
>>19127468
Dilate

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>>19127471
Are you going to have another breakdown and call everyone a trannie now?

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>>19127468
>Do you even know what that is?
He doesn't since he calls anything he doesn't like anime.

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>>19127452
>(he will never be a woman).
>Still obsessing over imaginary trannies.
Seek actual mental help. This shit ain’t healthy.

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>>19127333
Was thinking of Mary Renault when I was typing that out.

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>>19127480
Why are several schizos attracted to generals?

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>>19127493
Some anon already said it a few weeks back but they get attention for their actions. Especially if they shit up the thread. It’s why we have that one fag who constantly spams gay shit and scat.

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>>19127496
Don't forget that mods won't do anything, and very few people report the shitters to begin with, and you have the schizos of /sffg/

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Is Earth Abides any good? Some anon was talking about it a few threads back and it caught my interest.

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>>19127489
I instantly thought about a westerosi rally championship and Brienne driving a Renault 5 Turbo, and winning.

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>>19127517
Read it and find out?

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>>19127517
>Is Earth Abides any good?
A few anons have read it and have praised it before.

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>>19127522
Already got a backlog of others books I want to read, just want to m know if it’s good enough to add to my reading list.

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>>19127528
>if it’s good enough to add to my reading list.
It's a beautiful story. Add it to your list, you'll be missing out if you don't.

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>>19127521
Shit, that’s actually funny when you put it like that.

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>>19127522
>>19127533
I’ll read the first three chapters just to get a feel about it.

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>>19127523
Yeah, I think I’m thinking of checking the archive because of it.

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new thread
>>19127548

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>>19123510
This is Orthodox Jewish tier subverting your religious beliefs.

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>>19123544
You've already been told that the Inchoroi weren't calling the shots pre arkfall. The A.I doing everything was destroyed, as was most of their tech. The Inchoroi were a weapon race in and of themselves; they weren't super advanced, they were created by a super advanced race as attack dogs.

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>>19123510
ffs just have sex, imagine doing something this stupid as a loophole

anyone partaking in such shit has to feel really dumb