/fitshit/

[Anonymous No.19107453]

Other than Plato who are some authors who btfo the fit larpers?

[Anonymous No.19107472]

>>19107453

>For this reason it should not be a matter for surprise that the Anglo-Saxon mania for sport gains ground day by day: the ideal of the modern world is the “human animal” who has developed his muscular strength to the highest pitch; its heroes are athletes, even though they be mere brutes; it is they who awaken popular enthusiasm, and it is their exploits that command the passionate interest of the crowd. A world in which such things are seen has indeed sunk low and seems near its end.
- Rene Guenon (pbuh)

[Anonymous No.19107486]

>>19107453
how exactly did plato btfo fitness?

[Anonymous No.19107487]

cope more tubby

[Anonymous No.19107494]

>>19107453
>>19107472
Sounds like DYEL cope to me

[Anonymous No.19107509]

>>19107472
Very based. Things aren't looking good for /fit/ lately

[Anonymous No.19107516]

>>19107486
He said it makes men into gay cattle.

[Anonymous No.19107523]

Anyone who is averse to physical fitness should not have any of their intellectual opinions considered. If you can't find the will to improve yourself, why should your worldview be given any credence?

Pic related

[Anonymous No.19107536]

>>19107523
>no logic
>doesn't read
Opinion discarded.
This thread is for literature recs. If you don't read then you are raiding

[Anonymous No.19107538]

>>19107516
in which dialogue?

[Anonymous No.19107556]

>>19107523
Your postulate is false because it supposed that muscular figures are an objective matter of bettering oneself.

Some people would much rather build their intellect, read more books, learn new skills, etc than spend the same time needlessly building muscle in excess.
Provided one is not overweight and has no trouble in their daily activities, any building of the physical is unnecessary except for the most vain of people.

[Anonymous No.19107621]

>>19107538
Check warosu. Someone posted the quotes a while back.

[Anonymous No.19107644]

>>19107556
Thats a lot of words to say you look like shit

[Anonymous No.19107675]

>>19107644
What books do you recommend anon? Post face and shelf to help us become Chads

[Anonymous No.19107704]

>>19107556
What exactly is preventing you from both reading and going to the gym? How busy could you possibly be that you couldn't find the time to go to the gym for an hour every few days?

Your physical health, especially your hormonal profile, is inseparable to the way that you perceive the world and develop your own morality. Socrates argues for physical exertion (though not to excess) for those in the ruler caste of his ideal society in The Republic, as even then was it recognized that lacking physical activity makes you weak not just in the body, but also in the mind.

>>19107536
Yeah sorry I've never read a book in my entire life and I'm actually raiding from r/wholesomedemocracy

[Anonymous No.19107732]

>>19107704
This guy gets it.

[Anonymous No.19107761]

>>19107523
What of self-destruction?

[Anonymous No.19107765]

>>19107704
Retarded post.

[Anonymous No.19107779]

>>19107704
>One cannot rigidly prescribe a given regimen for a given body, because any regimen will invariably turn out, in some respects, to injure our bodies at the same time as it helps them in others. For instance, these gymnastic exercises and common meals, useful though they are to a state in many ways, are a danger in their encouragement of revolution witness the example of the youth of Miletus, Boeotia and Thurii. More especially, the very antiquity of these practices seems to have corrupted the natural pleasures of sex, which are common to man and beast.

[Anonymous No.19107793]

>>19107538
>You organize your state as though it were a military camp rather than a society of people who have settled in towns, and you keep your young fellows together like a herd of colts at grass.
Laws

[Anonymous No.19107808]

Lifting is a surrogate activity. Fitfags are just the dumbest of nerds

[Anonymous No.19107884]

>>19107453
Some might say he's turning into a kook but The Black Swan and Antifragile are brilliant.

[Anonymous No.19108183]

>>19107779
What a shit argument. Put it into your own words instead of hiding behind an old Greek and maybe you'd realize how retarded it is

[Anonymous No.19108202]

>>19107523
>improve yourself
Define improvement

[Anonymous No.19108219]

>>19107704
>Socrates argues for physical exertion (though not to excess) for those in the ruler caste of his ideal society in The Republic, as even then was it recognized that lacking physical activity makes you weak not just in the body, but also in the mind.
What he doesn’t do is tell you you have to go to a gym and do specific barbell movements, treating your body as an instrument and your muscles as machines, and then pretending you are doing something profound by using empty platitudes like “self improvement”. The worst of it is you would actually have people believe that going to a modern gym and doing barbell lifts is some sort of general purpose bare bones physical exertion regime and it’s objectively not that.

[Anonymous No.19108252]

>>19107556
>>19107779

[Anonymous No.19108295]

>>19108183
Socrates was a warrior. You're a twitter larper who has only ever heard his tranny masters make excuses for losing wars.

[Anonymous No.19108301]

anything about cardio/endurance

last time i checked, /fit/ didnt even know about wattmeters because they are too afraid to lose their gains

[Anonymous No.19108338]

>>19108252
Fitness is a marketing scam. It isn't meant to make people healthy.
Read Baudrillard.

[Anonymous No.19108369]

>>19108295
Socrates is a fictional character. And once again, make your own arguments instead of hiding behind someone else in an appeal to authority fallacy

[Anonymous No.19108372]

>>19108301
/fit/ is a shit board because lifting is a solved problem and there is nothing new to discuss. It devolves into people posting softcore porn, talking about getting girls and social media bullshit.

[Anonymous No.19108423]

>>19108369
>if only i had spent more time pretending to be a man

[Anonymous No.19108434]

>>19108369
>if only i had spent more time pretending to be a man

[Anonymous No.19108454]

>>19108434
Ok so you have conceded. At least you knew you were bullshitting

[Anonymous No.19108480]

I do an hour of calisthenics 3 times a week. Doesn't take much, my body is just decent, but it's along with reading (good stuff) the more enjoyable part of the day.

[Anonymous No.19108513]

>>19108454
>Ok so you have conceded
Hello red$dit.

[Anonymous No.19108531]

Based Evola called them pomo.

[Anonymous No.19108553]

>>19107884
>>19107704
>>19108301
>>19108315
Seems to be a pattern here.

[Anonymous No.19108560]

>>19108553
>>19108480

[Anonymous No.19108590]

>>19108553
This too >>19108477
/fit/ larpers seething.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCT9hDH_PUI

[Anonymous No.19108598]

>>19107472
of course someone that looks like him would say somethings as stupid as that, it reeks of cope

[Anonymous No.19108633]

>>19107556
except you are fat, weak and unhealthy

[Anonymous No.19108640]

>>19107765
at a loss for words, anon?

[Anonymous No.19108703]

>>19108640
You seem to spend a lot of time seething on the internet anon. Why don't you post a book that refutes Plato?

[Anonymous No.19108777]

>>19108703
it seems that after reading all those books the best you can do is write >>19107765 and post memes in response, so you are neither /fit/ nor /lit/, you are just a weak brainlet

[Anonymous No.19108792]

>>19108777
If you need that explained to you then you really are retarded. But post face and prove us wrong.

[Anonymous No.19108842]

No gym is ever going to compare to a place like this. A fat cripple here is better than some chad in a line with trannies.

[Anonymous No.19108851]

>>19108792
why would I post face if you haven't posted an argument? Someone in favor of fit should post body, yes, but someone in favor of lit and against fit should be able to formulate a sentence with more than two words.

[Anonymous No.19108858]

>>19108842
except someone that lives there is probably going to be strong and healthy, cripples are anomalies

[Anonymous No.19108870]

>>19108777
>>19108851
paying money to pick up bags of sand doesn't make you a warrior. your philosophy is just the omega male version of virtue signalling.

[Anonymous No.19108881]

>>19108858
>retard misses the point
Nice cope though.

[Anonymous No.19108892]

>>19107793
>In cold fact, you have failed to achieve the finest kind of song. You organize your state as though it were a military camp rather than a society of people who have settled in towns, and you keep your young fellows together like a herd of colts at grass. Not a man among you takes his own colt and drags him, furiously protesting, away from the rest of the herd; you never put him in the hands of a private groom, and train him by combing him down and stroking him. You entirely fail to lavish proper care on an education which will turn him out not merely a good soldier but a capable administrator of a state and its towns. Such a man is, as we said early on, a better fighter than those of Tyrtaeus, precisely because he does not value courage as the principal element in virtue: he consistently relegates it to fourth place wherever he finds it, whether in the individual or the state.
Very based.

[Anonymous No.19109196]

>>19108633
I'm 6 foot 3 and 140 lbs, try again buddy

[Anonymous No.19109273]

>>19107472
cope

[Anonymous No.19109357]

Ernst Jünger

[Anonymous No.19109367]

>>19109196
so you are auschwitz mode

[Anonymous No.19109508]

>>19109367
To beat the jew you have to learn to think like the jew.

[Anonymous No.19109725]

>>19108892
>this means plato hated fitness
its ridiculous that you niggers are in a literature board yet you dont even know what you're reading half of the time

[Anonymous No.19109762]

>>19107704
>when a leftist makes a legitimate point that could only serve to make the movement more effective only to get dogpiled by his (((comrades))) who are more concerned with aesthetics than building an effective political movement.
I swear the left hates the left more than they do the right.

[Anonymous No.19109784]

>>19107523
>his utopian politics (nazi architecture)
>his bedroom

[Anonymous No.19109824]

>>19108219
Go outside faggot

[Anonymous No.19109850]

>>19108219
>What he doesn’t do is tell you you have to go to a gym and do specific barbell movements
Based. Barbell training and modern fitness in general is completely and utterly degenerate; an artificial, hyper-processed and commercialized facsimile of what real fitness is. All those "based" "trad" *bodybuilders* would be looked upon by the Greeks as the circus freaks that they are. Bodybuilding is to fitness what transgenderism is to gender.

[Anonymous No.19109854]

>>19107453
Guppy tweets.

[Anonymous No.19109857]

>>19109850
But fitness actually exists

[Anonymous No.19109862]

>>19109196
>17.5 BMI
fucking how

[Anonymous No.19109869]

>>19109725
Exactly

[Anonymous No.19109876]

>>19109367
>>19109862
That is normal you fat americans I am 6'2" and 64Kilos/142Pounds

[Anonymous No.19109880]

>>19109862
I've weighed as little as 120 at my current height before, at 18.

[Anonymous No.19109881]

>>19109857
Yes, in the form of calisthenics, athletics and gymnastics. Barbell training isn't real fitness, much in the way that trannies aren't real women.

[Anonymous No.19109891]

>>19109367
>>19109862
That is normal you fat americans I am 6'2" and 64Kilos/142Pounds.
>>19108338
Read my penis!

[Anonymous No.19109905]

>>19107523
Plato wrestled at the Ismathean games.

[Anonymous No.19109921]

>>19109891
>I am 6'2" and 64Kilos/142Pounds.
Fucking kek. I think a regular man could just kill you by slightly walking towards you and pushing you into a wall/corner to squish you dead.
Be honest anon... are you a tranny and trying to be as feminine as possible?

All the cope in this thread as to why people don't want to be physically active is really fucking funny.
>nohhhh gym culture is pomo degenerate reeee
Then just do some fucking calisthenics you lazy shits.

[Anonymous No.19109930]

>>19107453
Just a glance at human history suffices. Non of the greatest thinkers wasted their time with bodybuilding. Most only ever engaged in light cardio.

[Anonymous No.19109945]

>>19109921
Judo goes a long way especially with good reach from long arms. It doesn't take much muscle to make a difference.

Much less if you carry a weapon as backup.

[Anonymous No.19109993]

>>19109945
I'm sure it does anon.
The bony arms will also make it extremely uncomfortable for your opponents when you grapple them.

[Anonymous No.19109996]

>>19109891
>6'2" and 64Kilos/142Pounds.
holy shit please post your body

[Anonymous No.19110009]

yes man I definitely lift because im just like those greek philosophers... definitely because im not insecure little bitch lolz

[Anonymous No.19110015]

>>19109876
It’s not though. You’re a skelly my man. Eat something

[Anonymous No.19110017]

>>19108338
>Read Baudrillard

[Anonymous No.19110034]

>>19107523
I am /fit/ but this is just cope because you obsess about your body too much.

[Anonymous No.19110037]

To all the seething gymfags itt, OP said fit larpers not fit people. Lifting weights isnt a personality trait.

[Anonymous No.19110077]

>>19107472

>NEVER IMPROVE

[Anonymous No.19110085]

>>19107523

*Rubs nose*
>MAY-BI - IN ORDER - TO CLEAN YOURR KITT-CHEN SINK
*snorts*
*franatically increases nose rubbing*
>YOU FIRST - HAFFTO. IMPROOVE SOCIETY

[Anonymous No.19110152]

There's surely a difference between lifting weights because it feels good or is healthy compared to trying to get as big as possible for no reason at all.

[Anonymous No.19110172]

>>19109824
Going outside means you would have to leave the gym retard

[Anonymous No.19110183]

>>19107472

Framelet cope. Talk about projection. I'd kick his fucking scrawny ass

[Anonymous No.19110227]

>>19107523
Based

[Anonymous No.19110308]

Why do people respond to this garbage threads?
>inb4 u 2! It’s on page 1.

Healthy body healthy mind. You can’t have one without the other in the long run. Anybody who doesn’t realise this is not even is midwit, they’re a moron.
>cope on

[Anonymous No.19110319]

>>19109725
>>this means plato hated fitness
Yes. Theres no comparison between modern fitness and classical games

[Anonymous No.19110332]

>>19109850
Holy based.

[Anonymous No.19110350]

>"Because the second degree—that is, a fine, regular form—properly constitutes beauty, it can be a good herald inasmuch as it promises an equally regular spirit, one that is perhaps placid, like a calm sea on a summer’s evening, gentle, incapable of great passion, be it good or ill; in short, it promises a tranquil, balanced, and orderly heart and mind. The reasons for this I gave earlier, but what they promise is admittedly nothing more than a hint, and just as a certain writer calls this regular form, if it be not enlivened by spiritual charms, a statuesque beauty, so the regularity of the spirit, which is supposed to accompany it, can likewise be the disposition to all that is beautiful, but often it remains mere disposition. Just as outwardly this regularity is intended only for the eye, so inwardly it also belongs, if not among the mute, then at least among the quiet charms that will never disturb, but seldom enliven, a spiritual pleasure."

>"Perhaps this is the appropriate juncture to mention that the greatest men have mostly possessed irregular features, because the passion that elevated them to greatness also caused them to develop early. Conversely, those handsome and suave gentlemen whose minds are filled with the portrait of their bodies are usually born only to convey, nurture, and delight in the thought “My, how beautiful I am!” Julius Caesar may always have carried a picture of Venus with him, whose son he claimed to be; but he will have shown it mostly to ladies. In the Roman senate and in the three hundred battles that made him great, he surely never thought that he was a beautiful man—but of course after his triumphs he did so all the more."

[Anonymous No.19110357]

>>19110332
So this is the power of "masculin" hobbies such as bodybuilding?

[Anonymous No.19110394]

>>/lit/thread/S18639311
Hilarious thread here. /fit/ never recovered

[Anonymous No.19110475]

how do you do fellow sportsfans? I too like to partake in the watching of sporting events!

[Anonymous No.19110487]

>For it is silly, my dear Lucilius, and no way for an educated man to behave, to spend one’s time exercising the biceps, broadening the neck and shoulders and developing the lungs. Even when the extra feeding has produced gratifying results and you’ve put on a lot of muscle, you’ll never match the strength or the weight of a prize ox.
>So keep the body within bounds as much as you can and make room for the spirit. Devotees of physical culture have to put up with a lot of nuisances. There are exercises, in the first place, the toil involved which drains the vitality and renders it unfit for concentration or the more demanding sort of studies.
>Next there is the heavy feeding, which dulls mental acuteness. Then there is the taking on as coaches of the worst brand of slave, persons who divide their time between putting on lotion and putting down liquor, whose idea of a well spent day consists of getting up a good sweat and then replacing the fluid lost with plenty of drink, all the to be absorbed on a dry stomach.
>Drinking and perspiring -- it's the life of a dyspeptic!

bonus material:
>Writers who have left us a record of life in ancient Rome tell us that it was just their arms and legs, which of course they dirtied working, that people washed every day, bathing all over only once a week on market day. ‘Obviously,’ someone will comment, ‘there must have been times when they were positively disgusting.’ And what do you think they stank of? I’ll tell you – of hard soldiering, of hard work, of all that goes to make up a man.

>Everyone’s pages ride along with their faces smeared with cream in case the sun or the cold should spoil their delicate complexions; one is ashamed if there is no member of one’s retinue of boys whose healthy cheeks call for protection with cosmetics. With all such people you should avoid associating.
t. seneca

[Anonymous No.19110492]

>mindlessly lifting weights because you fell for marketing ploys about 'manhood'
>working yourself to the bone carving steps up the side of the mountain to your cave while constantly reciting prayer
Only one of these is based.

[Anonymous No.19110494]

>>19107523
yet you will find that in real life no one actually takes the intellectual opinions of bloat lords and juiced faggots seriously

[Anonymous No.19110497]

>>19110494
bro do you even watch the joe rogan experience? the knowledge on that podcast would blow your mind

[Anonymous No.19110499]

>>19108842
glorious morning

[Anonymous No.19110524]

>>19110497
>the knowledge on that podcast would blow your mind
i see you're doubling down on the joke, because you must actually be a brainlet to like that shit.
i don't care about the shitty media you consume, the self-help books your read and the classical writings you butcher whilst trying to make them into more respectable self-help books.

[Anonymous No.19110572]

>>19110077
But this is perfectly telling about the mindset that is being brought to critique. The notion is that somehow strength training or bodybuilding you’re “improving” in some sort of vague general, objective sense as a human being. That’s complete nonsense, but the ease with which people resort to platitudes about “improvement” illustrate exactly how deep and deluded this particular myth is. The only thing you’re improving at lifting weights, nothing more.

[Anonymous No.19110656]

>>19110572
the bone hormone osteocalcin is objectively influencing brain development, and is stimulated by bone stress. objectively workouts and weight training are mentally beneficial, not just in a vague sense. workouts are the most adequate replacement for manual labor or natural lifestyle. and ppl instinctively understood it even without discovery of osteocalcin. i would oppose only excessive training like seneca, which is done for its own sake and drains power and attention from main fields of interest.

[Anonymous No.19110705]

>>19107556
The whole country of US and A btfo

[Anonymous No.19110787]

>>19107453
Weight lifting is utterly retarded. You get these testosterone boots which makes you act like a dog and you diminish all sorts of thinking and only focus on action like some pleb. Contemplation is totally opposite to action. You're go after marketing fads of bodybuilding or you go after intellectual pursuits which are based on reflection and contemplation. Taking a hike on the mountain goes well with thinking.

How many intellectuals gyms have produced other than some kook larpers on the internet?

[Anonymous No.19111293]

>>19110492
Based

[Anonymous No.19111443]

So far we have /fit/
>BAP
>Taleb

Vs.

/antifit/
>Plato
>Socrates
>Xenophon
>Homer
>Christ
>Julius Caesar
>Seneca
>Archimedes
>Herder
>Hegel
>Jünger
>Ted
>Baudrilard
>Ellul
>Heidegger
>Nietzsche

[Anonymous No.19111469]

>>19110787
>How many intellectuals gyms have produced
Just a bunch of death greek guys.

[Anonymous No.19111487]

>>19111469
Nice cope. They thought bodybuilders were fags and would have stomped on their throats

[Anonymous No.19111491]

>>19107453
>fit larpers
Do you mean those who pretend to be fit or do you mean that all fit people are metaphysically larpers?

[Anonymous No.19111495]

>>19111469
Most Greek with muscles were soldiers and not your 9-5 wagies lifting weights so they can feel like muh Egyptian statues whenever they see their own run reflection.

[Anonymous No.19111525]

Hamsun

[Anonymous No.19111538]

this thread again, you should be generally fit and muscular, but going to the depth of some /fit/iziens is too far
if you don't believe in exercise or lifitng you are either retarded or coping, just go to the gym 3 times a week and it'll be groovy

[Anonymous No.19111543]

>>19109357
Why Junger?

[Anonymous No.19111548]

>>19111543
no clue i guess he was telling you to enlist in the military do drugs and write books but that just my guess

[Anonymous No.19111555]

>>19107453

[Anonymous No.19111592]

>>19111555
Inaccurate as /pol/ is neither mentally or physically fit

[Anonymous No.19111593]

Physical strength is the most important thing in life. Frail people, when they turn 60, become frail old people and can no longer get off the toilet without assistance. Strong people, when they turn 60, can still pick up their grandchildren.

[Anonymous No.19111603]

>>19107793
Wrong again. Plato is talking about Sparta, using it to show the effects of excess masculinity; in contrast with Athens, which had, according to him, excess femininity.
No where is physical training dismissed as categorically wrong. The dangers of excess physical training are considered. That is all.
I've seen this thread 3 times alread OP. You must really be a flaming faggot to try the same tricks over and over again to farm replies and marinate in your "philosophically correct" way of not lifting weights, but spending excess energy on rationalizing your decision of not lifting weights.

[Anonymous No.19111617]

>>19108219
>The worst of it is you would actually have people believe that going to a modern gym and doing barbell lifts is some sort of general purpose bare bones physical exertion regime and it’s objectively not that.
It objectively is that. Barbell lifts are designed to load real movement patterns, not particular muscles. Squatting makes you better at lifting things in real life from a squat. Dead lifting makes you better at picking up heavy things. Bench pressing makes you better at pushing things. Rows and chinups make you better at pulling things.
There is no natural human movement that would possibly require strength in the real word which the 5 basic barbell lifts do not directly train. It is as general a training program as is possible.

[Anonymous No.19111632]

I don't care about the opinions of anybody who can't run a mile in less than eight minutes or deadlift at least, say, 1.5 plates. If I can look at you and tell you are weak and unhealthy, I am immediately filled with contempt for you.

[Anonymous No.19111653]

You retards quoting Laws don't even realize what Plato is criticizing because you don't understand how Sparta was organized by law at the time. He is not criticizing fitness at all; he extols it in Republic. He is criticizing the specific unique communal life of Sparta that you don't know about because you skipped all the supplementary history necessary to understand Plato.

[Anonymous No.19111654]

>>19111593
This is totally bullshit. No one is immune from disease and death. I have read a story of cardio grandpa with a horrible disease who basically begged for euthanasia because he was suffering for so long. Suffering is inevitable fact of being alive. Do you know about Dylan Reider? He was one the most beautiful lad and an internationally famous skateboarder. He suffered for many years from leukemia and died at 29. This assumption that somehow magically you will be free from disease and decay of your body after doing [x] is wishful thinking.

[Anonymous No.19111657]

>>19111632
All that lifting doesn't keep you from samefagging against online bullying. Seethe more.

[Anonymous No.19111663]

>>19111654
Yes. And avoiding physical training but having an excess focus on philosophy avoids disease and death how?

[Anonymous No.19111669]

>>19111653
>when he calls us fags its because he's one of us
lmao @ this cope

[Anonymous No.19111673]

>>19111657
YAWN.
Op you have a history of making these threads. If anyone is samefagging, it is YOU.
You even let the thread hit page 8 or 9, then post a reply to yourself to make it seem like there is an actual discussion going on, when its just you rationalizing your decision to not lift and insulting everyone who posts.
Fuck off.
Delete this thread.
Then delete yourself.

[Anonymous No.19111677]

>>19111657
That was my first post in the thread. I'm not scrolling through 125 posts of fat cunts trying to pretend that health doesn't matter. (You) didn't get bullied enough.

[Anonymous No.19111678]

>>19111653
Where does Plato advocate narcissism and being addicted to hormones?

[Anonymous No.19111693]

>>19111673
>46 posters
>one guy
Take your meds.

[Anonymous No.19111695]

>>19111678
Where does Plato advocate an excess dependence on one's mind and using philosophy as a crutch for one's existence?
Also, you are a giant flaming faggot. You already know that most fit people aren't roid monkeys. See this faggot >>19111673

[Anonymous No.19111699]

>>19111663
No, but I does prepare you to face decay and death.

[Anonymous No.19111703]

>>19111654
This is a strawman. Nothing exempts you from disease and I didn't claim otherwise. What I said was that weak people in middle age become extraordinarily weak in old age and need walkers. You've seen these old people, they are everywhere, and they get this way whether they are diseased or not simply by the decline of muscle mass over 40 years. The people who were squatting 300 pounds at age 50 do not need walkers at age 60, or likely ever, until injury or disease takes them.
Your examples are also of a runner and a skateboarder, neither of whom increase in strength at all through their sport. Running will help your health in other ways but no amount of running will let you pick up anything heavier than you could pick up before. And this includes your own body.

[Anonymous No.19111708]

>>19111699
>navel gazing prepars one for death
Ok bro. Nothing you say can be taken seriously anymore.

[Anonymous No.19111709]

>>19111693
One guy desperately trying to justify the fact that he couldn't do a pushup if his life depended on it and 45 guys calling him a faggot for it

[Anonymous No.19111711]

>>19111632
>1.5 plates
Isn't that like 200 pounds?

[Anonymous No.19111719]

>>19111678
Why do you think lifting weights necessitates either of those things? If you're making an argument against steroidal vanity, make it. Fitness for strength and health is unrelated to that at all. But of course you know that already; it just wouldn't get as many replies.

[Anonymous No.19111720]

>>19111695
No one said that though. Why do you have to make shit up if bodybuilding is the truth?

[Anonymous No.19111726]

>>19111720
>make shit up if bodybuilding is the truth?
What the fuck are you even saying now faggot? Lmao confirmed retard.

[Anonymous No.19111731]

>>19111719
First seethe post in the thread >>19107704
Learn to read

[Anonymous No.19111737]

>>19107509
>Very based. Things aren't looking good for /fit/ lately
holy LOL

[Anonymous No.19111741]

And it doesn't mention roid use and narcissistic approach to weight lifting anywhere. You are a giant flaming faggot.
And now we also know you are frail.
And now we also know you use these philosophies as a crutch for you existence and as a rationalization for your decision of not lifting weights.
Delete this thread.
And then delete yourself.

[Anonymous No.19111746]

>>19111708
>bodybuilding ISN'T just hormone manipulation
>philosophy IS just navel gazing
>STOP LYING GUYSH
What did she mean by this?

[Anonymous No.19111754]

>>19111703
I live in a "trad" community and I have never seen any "healthy" old man or woman with walkers. At that age you learn certain resistance to pain even in the case of illness and if they're not badly they will keep moving without needing support. This is smugness of gymbros that I fucking hate who grossly underestimate the lifestyle and pain endurance of average people.

[Anonymous No.19111767]

This whole thread is one guy pretending that the words exercise, fitness, bodybuilding, and roiding are all the same words. You say one word and he argues against the other. Either a troll or low iq

[Anonymous No.19111768]

>>19111617
>It objectively is that.
It’s simply not and you’ve utterly deluded yourself. Barbell training incorporates highly specific movement and applications. What you are literally doing is training specifically barbell movements. This is recognized even in your own (insane) community with the obsession over retarded concepts like “functional fitness” and “gpp” (which indicates the lack of universal and general application). Weightlifting is literally just a sport. This is an indisputable fact.

[Anonymous No.19111774]

>>19111617
>Dead lifting makes you better at picking up heavy things. Bench pressing makes you better at pushing things. Rows and chinups make you better at pulling things.
And these are retarded fucking statements. The fact that you don’t see that tells me we’ll get nowhere with this.

[Anonymous No.19111776]

>>19111673
>>19111741
>t.

[Anonymous No.19111777]

>>19111746
No faggot.
Bodybuilding using exogenous hormones is hormone manipulation. Lifting without using roids is getting things back in balance. By that logic you gizzing your pants reading all these philosphers is also hormone manipulation.
What a giant flaming faggot. Confirmed again.
>>philosphy IS just navel gazing
Again, no retard. What YOU are doing is navel gazing.

You've made this thread 5-6 times already OP. We get it. You don't want to lift.
Prediction for this thread:
1. OP replies to himself, agreeing and congratulating himself.
2. OP deflects and omits a part of the argument when replying to posts that destroy his arguments.
3. OP insults others, and uses that as proof of his correctness
4. Repeat.

[Anonymous No.19111781]

>>19111708
Problem of death is the very core of philosophy. As Schopenhauer said without problem of death or suffering men would scarcely philosophize.

[Anonymous No.19111790]

Fatties will do literally anything to pretend it's either not their fault or that they don't care.
>>19111768
What bizarro world do you live on where building muscle doesn't have anything to do with strength? Anybody who can bench 2pl8s is stronger than you are in every physical way you could test it.

[Anonymous No.19111797]

>>19111768
>>19111774
No it doesn't moron. I've already had this very same argument with your in 3 other threads. Barbell movements are the closest to generalized training you can get without actually doing the task at hand.
See >>19111777

Also buddy, time for you to give us all a clear and concise summary of your arguments. You remember? I asked you to do the same thing in those previous threads. It is a simple ask. Summarize your arguments in a clear and concise fashion. Even the most esoteric traditional ideas can be summarized. So do it.

[Anonymous No.19111799]

>>19111768
Name one "functional" movement pattern that is left weak or untrained by doing the five basic barbell lifts. Please note before drafting your reply that that weightlifting, the sport, does not include any of these lifts, but instead is comprised of two unrelated highly technical lifts that I never brought up.

>>19111754
I am quite literally around old people every single day because I am a physical therapist for old people specializing in strength reacquisition for people who can't get off the toilet, for example. Most of them are fat or frail and have nothing making them so weak other than their own lethargy. My job is to fix this, via strength training, so that they can walk around and carry groceries again.

[Anonymous No.19111809]

>>19111790
How much is 2 plates anon?

[Anonymous No.19111817]

>>19111777
>>19111797
lmao it's the samefag schizo from the last thread.

[Anonymous No.19111822]

>>19111768
>picking up a heavy bar is fine but your strength will magically stop working when you pick up a heavy box
nope, you're a retard who can't pick up a heavy anything

[Anonymous No.19111828]

>>19111799
>Clean it up jannie.
Sounds like an awful life anon. No wonder you are coping.

[Anonymous No.19111829]

>these are the people im trying to discuss literature with
never a bigger wake up call to leave this board and never look back

[Anonymous No.19111830]

>>19111809
225 lbs

[Anonymous No.19111837]

For reference, OP has already made this thread 5-6 times. I've got into an argument with him about 2-3 times. You can probably still find those threads in archived.moe.

OP follows the classic pattern of:
1. Make retarded statement to rationalize personal decision.
2. Omit and deflect to every reply
3. Insult every poster
4. Use this as proof of his initial retarded statement
5. Wait till time passes and people have forgotten.
6. Post replies to his own post congratulating himself.
7. Pretend there is organic discussion.
8. Repeat.

My request to OP. Please summarize your arguments in a clear and concise fashion so that we can argue it and resolve it once and for all, without going in circles with your deflections and insults.

Summarize your arguments against weightlifting in a clear and concise manner.

I request all other anons to refrain from posting till OP posts this summary.

[Anonymous No.19111841]

These faghots bragging about TRAINING to pick up 200 lbs. Holy fuck how week can you be? The average 10 year old farm boy can lift that.

[Anonymous No.19111850]

>>19111828
Huh? Not at all, it's great to help people. Seeing my client come in with a walker and in 3 months be walking around and able to put groceries away overhead, pick up boxes etc is a great feeling. These people are never going to squat 300 pounds, but they're also never again going to fall down and be unable to get up.

[Anonymous No.19111862]

>>19111837
Refute what Guenon said. Then I'll admit I'm the only person in the world who sees how gay /fit/ is.

[Anonymous No.19111886]

>>19111862
Already done multiple times in the previous threads OP. So no point my wasting energy writing you clear points, because I know you will simply deflect, insult, pretend it never happened, congratulate yourself and repeat the same point over and over again. Like you have done just now.

Which is why I ask you to give a clear and concise summary of your arguments in bullet points. This will preclude any deflection and name calling. This will also put the onus of arguments on you, so you can no longer hide behind vague walls of texts from various philosophers, which makes it even more easy to deflect arguments.

Write the summary of your arguments in a clear and concise manner. We talk then.

[Anonymous No.19111889]

>>19111862
Guenon only says that society likes athletes more than scholars and that this is bad. There's nothing to refute. Even completely agreeing with him doesn't stop you from training alongside your studies.

[Anonymous No.19111897]

>>19111837
"Is Seething on the Forum a Herald of Ugliness of the Soul?"

[Anonymous No.19111905]

>>19111886
Why doesn't bodybuilding cure autism?

[Anonymous No.19111907]

>>19111897
Yet another insult OP. Perhaps masturbation about one's decisions is a sure sign of the ugliness of the soul. But that doesn't matter.

No more walls of texts and deflection and insults. Still waiting for your clear and concise summation of your arguments. Like I have already asked >>19111837 and >>19111886

[Anonymous No.19111912]

>>19111905
And like clockwork, OP (and possibly his buddies) deflect and insult to avoid being cornered in the argument.

Please provide a clear and concise summary of your arguments without vagueness, deflection, verbosity and insults. Do this. Only then can any real discussion happen.

I have already asked this multiple times >>19111837 >>19111886 >>19111907

[Anonymous No.19111968]

>>19111889
He called them animals and mere brutes.
Try lifting a book instead of sperging.

[Anonymous No.19111986]

>>19111822
Never said that, but again, you pull in these fantasy scenarios and you use empty and vague rhetoric which implies something which isn’t true. To say that, for example, deadlifting creates universal proficiency in any lifting task is not only not true, but it misses the point entirely. By even viewing it that way, you’ve already failed precisely because you’re seeing your body as merely a mechanical instrument, an instrument I might add which is training a specific movement. And that’s just a fact.

>>19111797
That’s just complete bullshit that you’ve accepted on the basis of belief and nothing more. You are training a specific movement. That is just an objective fact.

>>19111799
You’re missing the point entirely. The challenge doesn’t make sense.

>>19111790
I didn’t even say that. See this is e problem? You can’t escape the basic belief system which is weight training = strength. It’s mere coincidence. What you’re doing when you lift weights is training for lifting weights, and the physical aptitude conferred on you by doing that, coincidentally may or may not carry over into other movements. The problem with that is 1) the idea that it’s any and all movement is objectively not true, but you just assert it as if it is because you apparently can’t wrap your brain about the contrary and 2) once you start talking along the lines of “movement”, “training”, “strength” you’ve already entered into the realm of vague statements which only apply to the specific application, and you just deny that premise is the case. Training the deadlift, may or may not make you more efficient (another problem term) at the movements involved with working at a rock quarry. To say that it objectively will in a universal and absolute sense is simply a lie. It’s not true. What you’re doing is training the deadlift specifically, and nothing more.

The extreme irony is that even within the weightlifting community, “gpp” has gained immense popularity and it refers to the idea of acquiring base level fitness for lifting weights and not the other way around lol. I wonder why that could be…

[Anonymous No.19111993]

>The need to go astray, to be destroyed, is an extremely private, distant, passionate, turbulent truth.

[Anonymous No.19112055]

>>19107779
Baudrillard says it is adultery.

[Anonymous No.19112192]

>>19111525
Anyone know what he said?

[Anonymous No.19112282]

>>19107556
Your postulate is false because it supposed that well-read minds are an objective matter of bettering oneself.

Provided one knows enough to complete their daily tasks and respond to HR emails, becoming well-read is unnecessary except for the most vain of people.
Also you’re a faggot, and probably a skinny fat faggot at that.

[Anonymous No.19112289]

>>19111986
>You can’t escape the basic belief system which is weight training = strength. It’s mere coincidence.
It's not.

>What you’re doing when you lift weights is training for lifting weights, and the physical aptitude conferred on you by doing that, coincidentally may or may not carry over into other movements.
What you're doing is training movement patterns under incrementally increasing load. "Other movements" can only by definition include human movement patterns, and barbell training trains the large majority of those movement patterns. It does this by increasing strength in the relevant muscles for the movement. Strength can be objectively defined as force production a muscle can produce against a resistance, it is not vague. There are only a finite amount of muscles and they can all be strengthened, which will obviously provide strength in all possible movements. All that remains is coordination, which is why barbells are preferred to machines.

Now obviously doing 5 barbell movements cannot train the coordination present in every possible movement the body can do, and it even skips over a few small muscles of the body. But for the vast majority of normal human movement, it works and it gets you stronger. This is just how muscles work.

GPP exists for people who are so weak or frail that they can't lift a barbell at all. As soon as the trainee has the physical ability to use a barbell, barbells are preferred. This is why every single sport in the world for which strength matters at all includes barbell training in its programming.

From just an observational standpoint, it should be obvious that a man who can deadlift 800 pounds, even one who trains solely with barbells, will be perfectly able to lift 300 pounds from the floor in any configuration that he can get a grip on it. This is obvious to anyone who has any knowledge of strength or building strength. Now, how do you think he became able to do that? Was it coincidence? No, it was because through training the deadlift he developed strength in the movement pattern of picking things up. This pattern primarily includes the muscles of the back, legs, grip, and the coordination to hold it without falling over. That's all training is: strengthening normal movement patterns through incrementally loaded, generalizable motions. There's no coincidence.

[Anonymous No.19112299]

>>19108338
I’m not trying to be healthy, thats fucking easy, just eat a modest amount of organic food. I’m trying to run faster, lift more, and want less, you nigger.

[Anonymous No.19112300]

>>19111443
>Socrates
>/antifit/
you're retarded, and dyel

[Anonymous No.19112306]

>>19112289
You’ve missed the point entirely, and just continued exactly what I pointed out. There’s no point in me engaging with this until you take me on the points I actually made.

[Anonymous No.19112327]

>>19112306
Your points are incoherent then. Post body twink faggot. Sage

[Anonymous No.19112339]

>>19111986
>weight training != strength. It’s mere coincidence
Please, explain to the class what you think is happening inside the human body when an individual progresses in their weight training, assuming they are somehow able to lift more and heavier weights without getting stronger?

[Anonymous No.19112458]

>>19112300
Read the thread.

[Anonymous No.19112471]

>>19112458
It's just you using the same out-of-context quote about Sparta over and over, you fat nigger
There does not exist a line in Plato anywhere where he says exercise is bad or that there's nothing wrong with being a slovenly pig

[Anonymous No.19112489]

>>19111543
>Here too is a nihilistic outer skin – hygiene, shallow cults of the Sun, sport, cultivation of the body, in brief: an ethos of sterility unworthy of consideration, just as the present age is generally characterised by a strange discrepancy between the strict succession of facts and the moral and ideological foundations accompanying them.
It is one of the worst expressions of nihilism.

[Anonymous No.19112497]

>>19112489
What he is trying to say?

[Anonymous No.19112522]

>>19112471
>As for wrestling, the kind of trick introduced as part of their technique by Antaeus and Cercyon because of their wretched obsession with winning, and the boxing devices invented by Epeius and Amycus, are absolutely useless in a military encounter and don’t merit the honor of being described.
>the trick is dropping to the ground and boxing gloves
So Plato was also against surrogate activities and the technical aspects of sport.
Why do you like losing so much anon?

[Anonymous No.19112556]

>>19112522
>It's a bad idea to try to kill somebody with boxing gloves in war
Why are you reaching this fucking hard for something to justify being fat?
When you get winded going up a flight of stairs in real life, do you blurt out Plato quotes to everybody staring at you between your dry heaves?

[Anonymous No.19112559]

>>19112497
I think he's calling Mishima a faggot.

[Anonymous No.19112620]

>>19112556
Roid rage won't bring back your foreskin anon.

[Anonymous No.19112640]

>>19112620
Not really anyway.

[Anonymous No.19112750]

>>19112327
>thinks 200 lbs is heavy
>iq double digits
You're bad and you ahould feel bad.

[Anonymous No.19112849]

>>19111799
You miss the transverse plane and force generation through the feet

[Anonymous No.19112872]

>>19112556
>When you get winded going up a flight of stairs in real life, do you blurt out Plato quotes to everybody staring at you between your dry heaves?
Laughed Out Loud

[Anonymous No.19112875]

>>19107523
pic related is the type of nigga who preaches fat acceptance and also advocates for universal healthcare

[Anonymous No.19112903]

>>19112497

[Anonymous No.19112937]

God tier trolling that got the /fit/ samefag seething for months. And good literature to boot.

[Anonymous No.19112983]

>>19107453

[Anonymous No.19113296]

>>19112983
>In what will survive me
>I am in harmony
>with my annihilation.

[Anonymous No.19113531]

>>19112983
Absolutely love how you had to squash my photo to make me not look like the ladykiller I am.
Sad!

[Anonymous No.19114290]

[Anonymous No.19114541]

>>19107453
“ He excelled so much in physical exercises that Dicaearchus went so far as to say, in the first volume of his Lives, that Plato wrestled at the Isthmian games and did extremely well and was well known.[36]”

[Anonymous No.19114672]

His Royal Highness dabs on modern sports and bodybuilding as an end itself. It's also a great book if you want to look at sports from a Traditionalist angle.

[Anonymous No.19114686]

>>19107453
My great uncle was a writer, and apparently did the Channel swim many times.
I've never swam more than 1.2km, and every time I did I was dead at the end. My mom once did a 5km, took her most of the day. I can't imagine swimming 21km.

[Anonymous No.19114734]

>>19110085
>wanting to clean up a city when you can't even clean up after dinner
Do you experience any other delusions of grandeur?

[Anonymous No.19114748]

>>19111654
I've seen high school debate teams with less fallacious arguments. You have to be 18 to post here, bucko.

[Anonymous No.19114752]

>>19111709
Based

[Anonymous No.19115287]

>>19114672
Who is this?

[Anonymous No.19115390]

>>19114748
Why are you so afraid of your mortal limits? Make you feel like """unfit""" people that you resent so much?

Search for new ways to cope.

[Anonymous No.19115457]

>>19111654
Good post.
>>19111663
The mind is more powerful than the body.

[Anonymous No.19115508]

>>19107556
It’s not one or the other. Keep coping though.

[Anonymous No.19115549]

[Anonymous No.19115555]

>>19115508
>he fell for the b8
oh no no no
look at the top of his head!
BAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.19115564]

>>19115555
>>19115508
Is lifting just peabrain cope?

[Anonymous No.19115570]

>>19109850
Most top athletes utilize barbel training.

[Anonymous No.19115572]

>>19114752
Butterfly is back talking to herself.

[Anonymous No.19115592]

>>19115570
Don't care about tranny science.

[Anonymous No.19115615]

>>19115564
Bruh, twink on the left mog'd gymbro so hard

[Anonymous No.19115621]

>>19112903
>>19112497
Post it so it can be read.
>Sports, then, may be defined as a reaction the conditions under which man lives in the large cities. This reaction is dependent upon the increasing mechanization of motion. "Savages" do not practice sports. They exercise their physical faculties; they play, dance, and sing, but there is nothing sportslike in these activities, even if they are performed with virtuosity. Our best sportsmen significantly hail from the industrial districts where mechanization is at its highest, particularly from the cities. Farmers, foresters, professional hunters, and fishermen, those whose movements are free of mechanical compulsion, rarely practice sports. The headway that sports are making in the rural districts is in fact a yardstick of advancing mechanization, particularly the mechanization of farming. For the operation of that machinery changes the muscular development and with it the operator's movements. In older generations, lifelong hard manual labor had produced that heaviness and hardness of body, that clumsiness typical of the peasant. Now these features are disappearing. He becomes nimble and more agile since the machine relieves him from direct contact with the soil. The driver of a tractor or a combine has a body different from that of the ploughman or the mower.
>It is not easy to draw a sharp line between play and sports, because there is hardly a game that cannot be practiced as a sport. The Olympic Games of the Greeks, obviously, were not sports but festivals of a religious character, combined with contests. They cannot be called sports simply because of the absence of the industrial scene, which is the background of what we moderns term sports. What we call Olympic games in memory of antiquity are highly technical sports to which flock the specialists from all countries. There is a difference between the man for whom hunting or swimming, fishing or rowing are natural pursuits, parts of his life, and the man who practices hunting, swimming, fishing, or rowing as a sport. The latter obviously is a technician who has developed to perfection the mechanical side of his activity. The equipment of the modern sportsman alone indicates this. To get an impression of the growing mechanization, we need only look at the tools used in sports, all those elaborate fishing rods and reels, all those scientific golf balls and clubs, the stop watches, time clocks, measuring devices, starting machines, and so on. In the exact timings of motions and split-second recordings of modern sports we find again that organization and control of the consumption of time that characterize technology.

[Anonymous No.19115623]

>>19115621
>And is not the sportsman's lingo a language of typically mechanical hardness? A man who starts to jump and run for the sheer joy of jumping and running and who stops when the mood has left him is entirely different from the man who enters an athletic event in which, under guidance of technical rules and with the use of time clocks and measuring apparatus, he jumps and runs in an attempt to break a record. The high pleasure that swimming and diving give us is due to the touch of water, its crystal freshness, its coolness, purity, transparency, and gentle yielding. This delight, obviously, is of no significance in contests where professional swimmers perform. For the purpose of such contests is to find out which swimmer has the most perfect technique and consequently reaches the goal faster than the rest. Training for record-breaking is essentially an intensification of will power aimed at complete mastery over the body which has to obey mechanically. Such an effort may be quite useful and effective. But the more the training for, and the breaking of, records become ends in themselves, the more sterile they grow.
>The physique of the modern athlete betrays the one-sided training to which it is subjected. His body is trained, but it is anything but beautiful. The body-building, as effected by specialized sports, does not achieve beauty, because it lacks proportion, something a body devoted to special training no more can have than a mind narrowed down to highly specialized interests. When the sports-trained body is considered beautiful, it is due not merely to the absence of a trained eye, to insufficient study of the nude. No, an appraisal of this sort also expresses the fact that the human body is judged by mechanical criteria such as muscular dimensions and, in particular, by the specialized training it shows. These criteria, however, lack appreciation for the quiet, effortless fullness of beauty; they do not consider relaxed easiness or charm and grace. These viewpoints are deficient in spirituality as well as in sensuality. Unbalance and exaggeration of physique as bred by modern sports are most striking with women. Both their bodies and their faces acquire hardened, sterile traits. Modern sports are incompatible with any kind of artistic life and activity; they are essentially unartistic and unspiritual by nature.
>A comparison suggests itself between the sportsman and the ascetic, who is also a professional, though in quite a different sense. The training of the sportsman has an ascetic trait, and through all sports we find a certain puritanism, a strict hygiene of physical habits, which controls sleep, nutrition, and sex life from the viewpoint of efficiency. Sportsmen are not a group of people who exuberantly express their abundance of vital energy, but a tribe of strict professionals who rigidly economize their every ounce of strength, lest they waste a single motion of their money-making, fame-making physique.

[Anonymous No.19115647]

>>19115623
In short, the problem is like medicine treating the symptoms rather than overall health. Lifting is for those in a perpetual state of training but will never get to compete.
And it's funny because for all the tough talk there doesn't seem to be any evidence that anyone is reading Starting Strength, let alone following it. It says very clearly that your training is heavily dependent on training the mind and nervous system before the body. And this is confirmed by the ancient greek wrestlers and similar traditions today. If you look at the famous images of wrestlers they tend to have very small arms, and great core strength. It was also a mental or divine strength which made the greatest wrestler in history. Spiritual strength, he probably wasn't even that big.

Pic related is training ancient greek style. Note the size of the man.

[Anonymous No.19115655]

>>19115647

[Anonymous No.19115661]

>>19115655
Pehlivans

[Anonymous No.19115663]

>>19115661

[Anonymous No.19115666]

>>19111731
Low reading comprehension or ESL

[Anonymous No.19115704]

>>19115623
Hyper based

[Anonymous No.19115908]

I don't think Hitler lifted weights, /fit/ BTFO. He praised boxing and sports however.

[Anonymous No.19115970]

Jesus christ how pathetic. If you are not physically fit (including having muscle) then you are a brainlet. Women will never respect you, they’ll see you as a pet at best. Pathetic cope itt. Have sex.

[Anonymous No.19115981]

>>19115970
>Women will never respect you
Oh no no no no no
Imagine caring about what women think.

[Anonymous No.19116003]

>>19115970
>he thinks people respect big chungus meatheads

[Anonymous No.19116013]

>>19107808
That's not what surrogate activity means you fucking faggot.

[Anonymous No.19116099]

Don't care. Still lifting weights.

[Anonymous No.19116591]

This thread proves that /fit/ is definitely not /lit/.

[Anonymous No.19116614]

>>19115647
>>19115655
Wrecked.

[Anonymous No.19117736]

>>19116099
Two more weeks.

[Anonymous No.19117898]

>>19116013
>A surrogate activity is an activity that is directed toward an artificial goal that the individual pursues for the sake of the “fulfillment” that he gets from pursuing the goal, not because he needs to attain the goal itself. For instance, there is no practical motive for building enormous muscles, hitting a little ball into a hole or acquiring a complete series of postage stamps. Yet many people in our society devote themselves with passion to bodybuilding, golf or stamp-collecting. Some people are more “other-directed” than others, and therefore will more readily attach importance to a surrogate activity simply because the people around them treat it as important or because society tells them it is important. That is why some people get very serious about essentially trivial activities such as sports, or bridge, or chess, or arcane scholarly pursuits, whereas others who are more clear-sighted never see these things as anything but the surrogate activities that they are, and consequently never attach enough importance to them to satisfy their need for the power process in that way.

[Anonymous No.19118060]

You are a fucking retard. Lifting is the gas pedal for mindfulness and progress.

[Anonymous No.19118219]

>>19107704
Good post, this implicit mind body dualism that fat people on lit use to justify being fat is very wrong.

Your physical health is absolutely inseparable from your mental state. If you read all day but ate pastries and never moved your mind would be addled to a degree that would negate any benefit from your study. A strong healthy body is imperative to a working, well functioning mind, and it’s absolutely true that an unhealthy or physically slovenly person’s opinions can generally be wholesale discarded. Someone like Lindy West has terrible opinions primarily due to her lard ass poisoning her mental faculties.

[Anonymous No.19118294]

Just lift weights 3 days a week for an hour a session. That's 3 hours of your week and you'll look and feel way better. Your brain will also function better. It's really not hard.

[Anonymous No.19118319]

>>19108531
post modernist?

[Anonymous No.19118386]

>>19115647
Insanely based.

[Anonymous No.19118398]

>>19118219
>Your physical health is absolutely inseparable from your mental state.
So why is fitlit so dumb?

[Anonymous No.19119006]

>>19118219
Where did anyone justify being fat?

[Anonymous No.19119008]

>>19110656
If all that is true then why are 95% of fit people complete and utter meatheads?

[Anonymous No.19119180]

Based OP does it again.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=vCu8qj31UJk

[Anonymous No.19119192]

>>19107472
Cope

[Anonymous No.19119214]

>>19107761
>muh Tyler Durden
The only reason you think that quote is cool is because the character looks like Brad Pitt. Irony much?
>inb4 the book not the movie
That line isn't in the book. t. Chuck Palahniuk autist.

[Anonymous No.19119230]

>>19110350
What is this from?

[Anonymous No.19119240]

>>19115564

[Anonymous No.19119256]

>>19115647
Why hasn't fitfag responded to this?

[Anonymous No.19119290]

>>19118294
If you fags are so obsessed with obesity wouldn't making healthy food be a better solution?

[Anonymous No.19119294]

>>19108842
I thought you faggots pretended to be smart? I live in a similar place and have a home gym

[Anonymous No.19119377]

>>19115621
>>19115623
it's funny because fit twitter is also a bunch of neetch larpers.

[Anonymous No.19119421]

>>19107472
every day I am more convinced that the French are worse than the Jews

[Anonymous No.19119461]

>>19119421
But Jews started /fitlit/

[Anonymous No.19119472]

>>19119461
what is this /fitlit/ and why do you harbor resentment towards it? Are you against physical fitness and health or just the bodybuilding culture of /fit/? There is objectively nothing wrong with pursuing fitness.

[Anonymous No.19119580]

>>19119472
>objectively nothing wrong with pursuing fitness
Wrong.

[Anonymous No.19119634]

>>19119472
I'm down with /fit/. What I resent is anti-semitism

[Anonymous No.19119641]

>>19119634
>What I resent is anti-semitism
well then you should agree that the French are worse than Jews

[Anonymous No.19119666]

>>19119641
Wouldn't that make them the best bodybuilders?

[Anonymous No.19119673]

Pic of OP.

[Anonymous No.19119696]

>Tumblr trannies are more masculine than bap. At least they have the guts to show their faces and take action.

[Anonymous No.19119758]

>>19110394
Based.
What I learned is that lifting turns guys into sophists. What is the connection?

[Anonymous No.19120282]

>>19107523
based.

[Anonymous No.19120312]

>>19118219
>Your physical health is absolutely inseparable from your mental state
No it isnt. Maybe you should read the Greeks if youre posting in a thread about them?

[Anonymous No.19120353]

Don't know what to make of this thread. Think I agree with the anti-/fit/ crowd generally excluding the schizo tranny takes. BAP says only monkeys in captivity masturbate, but only men in captivity lift.

[Anonymous No.19120366]

>Chesterton: I see there has been a famine in the land.
> Shaw: And I see the cause of it.
>Shaw: If I were as fat as you, I would hang myself.
>Chesterton: If I were to hang myself, I would use you for the rope.

[Anonymous No.19120383]

>>19112556
>When you get winded going up a flight of stairs in real life, do you blurt out Plato quotes to everybody staring at you between your dry heaves?
kek ignatius j reillys in this thread

[Anonymous No.19120487]

>>19110524
Anon it would seem you missed my joke entirely.

[Anonymous No.19120703]

>>19115564

No way this guy gets any pussy. Much better to be the homosexual on the right.

[Anonymous No.19120712]

>>19120703
*Homosexual on the left, duh

[Anonymous No.19120738]

>>19109367
Hardly. I'm 5'11 115#. No joke. Weighed today. I am Auschwitz mode

[Anonymous No.19121269]

>>19120703
why would I want any pussy if I look like him?

[Anonymous No.19121319]

>>19115287
HRH Ghazi bin Muhammad, Prince of Jordan

[Anonymous No.19121367]

>>19107472
He's right. Your life will end one day and you spent it on useless vanities to impress fallible people only to achieve applause or entries to worse ends like fornication. These are truly the ones that are coping. One day this life will end. And it is they that have been chasing mere shadows, lasting only for the course of this life. All goals, all projects, ambitions, honors, pleasures, all worthless in the scale of eternity. Instead of storing up that which would lead to eternal bliss, they are caught up and choked by the thorns of this world and merit eternal suffering. The only thing that matters is virtue. The gains of self mortification exceed those of body building, for they last forever

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>>19108842
>Sneed n chuck sitting back on rockers enjoyin the fresh Columbian air in this picture
>all these muscledummy replies
>hey Sneed, look at this fancy city slicker with his "muscles"

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>>19119008
Your an autistic redditor with a chip on their shoulder if you think any meatheads post on /fit/
It's mostly insecure manlets who strut around the gym with minor gainz

[Anonymous No.19121691]

>>19120282
Azelia is unfathomably based and right

[Anonymous No.19121935]

>>19121367
fucking based

[Allknowinguru !vpfH0AWBsE No.19121968]

FACT: WHITE MEN watching Sports on TV is the leading factor for "coal-burning" in America

When a little white girls grows up, noticing that her dad is spending countless hours every weekend on the Couch watching Jamal and DeShawn running up the Field with a ball - instead of her father helping her with her homework and other life skills, she is learning that Jamal and DeShawn's football career must be more important to society than her own family, and when she later learns that they make $10 Million a year for running up a field.... can you blame her when she goes to school on Monday morning and wants to hang around little Tyrone and Malik on the school football team, instead of hanging around Billy on the school's Math team and Tennis team.

There is a DIRECT causation and correlation between the rise of Sports TV Channels and Cable Sports channels in the 1980s and 1990s, to coal-burning becoming acceptable in society

[Anonymous No.19121984]

>>19121367
Very based

[Anonymous No.19121985]

I exercise. Making that your life purpose would be incredibly sad. A strong body as your highest goal must be very depressing. You need to be very young to fool yourself into believing such a value system.

[Anonymous No.19122045]

>>19108842
Are you the one who in the other thread posted this? Living in such remote an area..How do you deal with the skin people?

[Anonymous No.19122104]

>>19121968
sadly true

[Anonymous No.19122242]

>>19107453
not sure where you got that from Plato and Aristotle to my knowledge had a high opinion of gyms and physical training

[Anonymous No.19122253]

>>19111443
Plato and Aristotle were /fit/ you moron

[Anonymous No.19122270]

>>19122253
Exercising for health and strength (and beauty, of course) is not the same as contemporary body building.

[Anonymous No.19122307]

>>19122242
>>19122253
Read the thread if you can't be bothered to read Plato >>19112522
>As for wrestling, the kind of trick introduced as part of their technique by Antaeus and Cercyon because of their wretched obsession with winning, and the boxing devices invented by Epeius and Amycus, are absolutely useless in a military encounter and don’t merit the honor of being described.
>the trick is dropping to the ground and boxing gloves

[Anonymous No.19122317]

>>19121968
And they think they're warriors for watching kids games.

[Anonymous No.19122341]

>>19115621
>>19115647
Based and saved.

[Anonymous No.19122383]

Hippocrates
>eating alone will not keep a man well, he must also take exercise


Plato
>the student must practice gymnastics, the athlete must cultivate his mind
>simplicity in music begets sobriety in the souls, and in gymnastic training it begets health in bodies
>of all modes of purifying and restoring the body gymnastic is the best
>The best kind of exercise is when the body is moved by its own agency; it is less good if the agent is some external

[Anonymous No.19122396]

>>19111443
Seneca had a personal trainer....

[Anonymous No.19122418]

>>19121367
Fascinating.

[Anonymous No.19122428]

>>19115647
morrissey?

[Anonymous No.19122447]

>>19122383
>out of context paraphrase
Brainlet coper confirmed.

[Anonymous No.19122451]

>>19122447
Plato himself lifted weights. Enough said..

[Anonymous No.19122453]

lmao only 84 posters.
OP hard samefagging.

[Anonymous No.19122458]

>>19122383
>>The best kind of exercise is when the body is moved by its own agency; it is less good if the agent is some external
Is this Plato arguing against those vibrational exercise machines?

[Anonymous No.19122466]

>>19122451
Plato wasn't a sophist.

[Anonymous No.19122470]

>>19122396
Did he have twitter?

[Anonymous No.19122626]

>>19122396
and didnt seem to enjoy the experience
>Then there is the taking on as coaches of the worst brand of slave, persons who divide their time between putting on lotion and putting down liquor, whose idea of a well spent day consists of getting up a good sweat and then replacing the fluid lost with plenty of drink
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YAAAY!!!!
FINALLY OVER BUMP LIMIT
DELETE YOURSELF OP

[Anonymous No.19123259]

>>19122741
t. muscle dummy that knows the thread was lost right here >>19121367 and wants to bury it.