Theosophy

[Anonymous No.18108991]

What does /lit/ think of it?
Where to start?
>inb4 Guenonposting

[Anonymous No.18109024]

>>18108991

[Anonymous No.18109050]

>>18108991

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.18109051]

Its genuinely the biggest garbage shitshow, they’re the root of all new ageism, the lies they spread about Tibetan Buddhism, Hinduism, chakras and so forth have done irreversible damage by producing new ageism. The book of dzyan, their holy scripture, is itself a fake. The only good thing about theosophy is some artists or some folks who were in it and left such as Rudolph Steiner. Even though I dislike guenon, you would be much better off with Guenon.

Just study actual eastern and western esotericism, if you desire I’ll post some reading lists I’ve compiled.

[Anonymous No.18109060]

>>18109051
>, if you desire I’ll post some reading lists I’ve compiled.
please do

[Anonymous No.18109065]

>>18109051
Do post the lists.

[Anonymous No.18109077]

>>18108991
>Where to start?
Just don't

[Anonymous No.18109079]

>>18109051
Going to shill Rosicrucianism again?

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.18109089]

>>18109060
here. This will give you a text from a good number of traditions, basics really and even then I am ignoring many traditions.

First Renaissance magic/hermeticism

The corpus hermeticum, Boehme’s Clavis and Paracelsus’s Archidoxes of magic and Agrippa’s 3 books

Read the following reading order to easily digest boehme.

Clavis, Threefold Life, The Aurora, Questions Concerning the Soul, Theosophical Theses, Mysterium Magnum (commentary on Genesis/Exodus).

The following are good for Chinese alchemy and Taoism in general.

If you know Chinese or have a friend that can help translate, ABSOLUTELY read the Daozang(it’ll be difficult even with knowledge of Chinese due to the age of the text)
Obviously you want laozi, Liezi and chuang Tzu.

For alchemical purposes I would recommend “ Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality” which I know sounds horrible, but it’s just a title, it’s actually a translation of a Taoist manual designed to take you from basically ignorance to adepthood with alchemy.

Also the alchemical classic “understanding reality” is very good as an introduction.

Holding the three ones is a very old text but I know it can be found online, so I highly recommend it.

But chief among the alchemical and metaphysical literature is ge Hong’s baopuzi especially the inner chapters (which there haven’t been new translations of for years but it does exist in translation.) his traditions of divine transcendence is also a phenomenal read.

I would also recommend the divine farmer’s classic of materia medica and also the Classic of Mountains and Seas.

Finally for purely ritual purposes I would recommend two pieces of literature.

The taoist master chuang which is a scholars work who was taught, first half of the book explains lineages and how he came to such knowledge second half is a grimoire tier explanation of how they actually work their magic with seals and how to draw and everything.

Also “mao Shan, tradition of great purity” is another excellent ritual-meditative text.

For pure meditation I would recommend the secret of the golden flower and the Zuowanglun

Here’s the Baopuzi, it’s the only difficult one on this list to find with a google search. http://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=C774D46BA327AE36B18579830CDEF4B9

For hindu alchemy, the Mantrikabheda tantra is the best, but won’t be understandable without context, this is my reading list for tantra.

Cont

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.18109113]

>>18109089
Shiva Sutras
Shiva Samhita
(Optional=abhinavagupta commentary of the gita)
Bhairava tantra (112 meditations )
The secret supreme:Kashmir shivaism (very simplified but still good.)
Kali Kaula(skip if you don’t want Neo-tantra+ historical analysis of tantra and its relations to stuff like Taoism and the general arising of Vedanta and Buddhism from the Upanishads and other such )
Tantra Illuminated (Skip if you don’t want modern lit)
Kaulajnananirnaya
Kularnava Tantra
Anandalahare
Matrikabheda Tantra
Spandakarikas
Paratrisikavivirana
Tantraloka (You can also read when you feel up to it the Tantrasara which is a condensed normie friendly version of the tantraloka written by abhinavagupta to give people a tldr)

As for Middle East, ibn Umail, ghazali, the Shams al-Ma'arif and the writings of Subrawardi will be essential, I would also recommend hallaj and Quzati if you’re inclined. Arabi is a popular option as well.

Note, umail’s the origin of Jung’s alchemical interpretations so if you’re interested in Jung, umail’s work especially with the Marie commentary is worth your reading. There’s also the picatrix.

But really, there’s a ton of alchemical text and especially in the west it was by design not all the same but rather each book and magician had largely the same and similar themes but expressed subtly different philosophy, methodology, theology and imagery. So you will gain from pretty much all of the books on the levity website which has a ton of alchemical texts.

Boehme was historically the interpretation key many of our alchemists and masons would use, Agrippa is foundational also, same with Paracelsus. The corpus hermeticum is the bedrock of our alchemical tradition.

https://www.alchemywebsite.com/texts.html

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[Anonymous No.18109119]

they make you eat da poo poo

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.18109121]

>>18109113
If you want to go even deeper, it is good that you should read the works of Ficino especially his De vita libri tres and also the writing of pico della mirandola beginning with the oration on the dignity of man. From here you should study the Rosicrucians in general, I do not say it lightly when I say the Chymical Wedding of Christian Rosenkreutz is one of my favorite books of all time.

Also if you’re willing, you should check out the writings of John Dee especially the hieroglyphic monad, and the writing of his son Arthur dee and then after this read the alchemical writings of Thomas browne. Note many consider browne to be one of the best prose stylists in the English language, check out his Religio Medici

Now as to Buddhism, though I know it’s a large thing to ask, you ought to read the Pali canon, you ought to read the heart sutra, the Diamond sutra, the lotus sutra, the Lankavatara sutra, the teachings of Linji and of Bankei, and if you’re interested in Vajrayana you ought begin with the The Concealed Essence of the Hevajra Tantra: With the Commentary Yogaratnamālā after reading the above works and consider also reading the entire tantric list because Vajrayana is tantric Buddhism and will use Hindu texts when the need arises. If you want the core teachings of dzogchen, read the seven treasuries of Longchenpa, but if this is too much reading for you, you can read JUST the The Precious Treasury of the Basic Space of Phenomena. Which is around 150 pages and encapsulates the entire dzogchen view of ultimate reality.

[Anonymous No.18109133]

>>18109121
Are you a Rosicrucian yourself?

[Anonymous No.18109143]

Don't listen to Frater Assslam. He's a poo poo eater. They made him eat the poo poo. Now he reads all these books about spooky spirits and memeons (demons, which are memes, btw) to justify why he hate the poo poo and took it in the bum bum. All his Lililths and Enkis and Choronzons are just parts of his cracked mind now. Cracked how? Well, by eating the poo poo and being covered in poo poo, among other things that are attracted to poo poo.
Don't listen to his lies.

[Anonymous No.18109151]

>>18109089
>>18109113
>>18109121
BASED
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[Anonymous No.18109156]

>>18108991
>inb4 Guenonposting
TOO BAD

[Anonymous No.18109175]

>>18109089
Frater Daddy, where do you stand on Freemasonry?

[Anonymous No.18109180]

>oh yes, magus, i will consume your divine poo poo

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.18109192]

>>18109133
As in the amorc? No I hate the AMORC they’re new agers. as in do I study and practice the alchemical stuff of historical Rosicrucianism? Among other things yes.

>>18109143
Nah, obsession with basic demons or the like is dumb and I’ve never eaten Da poo poo. My sole concern with occultism has been from the start knowledge and love of Christ.

>>18109175
They’re not the best nor the worst. Mostly a boys club these days.
You’re better off just studying levi and better than that is just studying boehme. For the most part the Solomonic grimoires+boehme+levi are what esoteric masons are going off on.

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.18109205]

>>18109175
If you want bare minimum, read Agrippa, the book of Oberon, boehme and the liber juratus and some aryeh Kaplan, that’ll make you better than 99% of masons on the stuff they care about.

[Anonymous No.18109212]

>>18109121
thanks buddy, I saved your posts for future reference. I want to start with Hindu/Buddhist tradition before I dive into Western tradition.

[Anonymous No.18109457]

>>18109192
>As in the amorc? No I hate the AMORC they’re new agers. as in do I study and practice the alchemical stuff of historical Rosicrucianism? Among other things yes.
Alright thanks for the clarification