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1726445 No.1726445 [Reply] [Original]

So tell me /lit/ people

If you're so smart why weren't you accepted into an Ivy League school?

I pity you underachieving state u fags, I really do. Community collegefags even more so, since you actually thought a two year degree was worth more than a high school diploma.

>> No.1726465
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1726465

Ain't nothing gonna break my stride oh no oh no oh no,i got to keep on movin'

>> No.1726475

I didn't apply to any, because I didn't want to go to them. Probably would have gotten in if I had.

I go to an excellent non-Ivy private university that's still top 10 academically, though!

>> No.1726482

>>1726475

>goes to a shitty liberal arts party college

>thinks he'll be respected when he graduates

>> No.1726489

I'm not American.

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1726490

Well, boy. Since you want to troll, I'ma have to sage. I'm very disappointed, son.

>> No.1726494

>>1726489

You could have still applied. Either an Ivy school or an Oxbridge school. They take accomplished foreigners but then you probably just weren't smart or motivated enough to even think about getting in. Sucks for you.

>> No.1726496

I didn't think to apply to one, because it's expensive & the jobs I want are based more on creativity & talent than whose degree is fancier.

& I always have mortuary school to fall back on, if all else fails.

>> No.1726502

because maybe we couldn't afford the $40,000 a year tuition and scholarships only give money to minorities nowadays...

>> No.1726505

>>1726496

>creativity and talent

lol enjoy being poor.

The only jobs that take "creativity and talent" that pay living wage involve selling your body for dickings

>> No.1726506

that's a silly idea. college != real world. let us know what you accomplish after graduating.

>> No.1726514

Because I receive enough scholarship money that my state university sends me a check every semester. Why would I want to waste tens of thousands of dollars or more to learn the same crap at a more prestigious school?

>> No.1726519

lol enjoy your worthless degrees, state universityfags

in this job market, you need a degree from a real school to get by, not some mickey mouse state-funded joke.

>> No.1726520

>>1726505

That's why the bit about mortuary school. Obviously if I'm not good enough, I have that. But if you want to imagine me getting plowed by strange men, that's cool. Just seems a little gay, is all.

>> No.1726541

>>1726519

How's your Ivy League college experience doing with teaching you the basics of grammar & stuff? That's cool.

>> No.1726547

>>1726519

Is that really what you think? lol.

The connections you make are infinitely more important than the school you attend.

>> No.1726550

>>1726514
>my state university sends me a check every semester

lol welfare fag detected

>> No.1726553

I'm just planning on teaching, I don't think I need an Ivy League degree to do that.

>> No.1726555

>>1726514
Me too! It's pretty bad ass, but I just give the money to my dad.

>> No.1726557

>>1726553

You came out of your mom's vagina

>> No.1726559

>lol community college

What bullshit. You know, I have a community college degree in Paralegal Studies, and I've been working in the field for the past four years. Derp.

>> No.1726561

>>1726557
lolwat

>> No.1726562

>>1726561

Think about it, you're a smart kid

>> No.1726565

>>1726562
But... but that would mean... Oh fuck, I'm a human being!

>> No.1726566

>>1726550

Nah, I have a full academic scholarship and another one for being a National Merit Scholar or whatever. My family is white and upper middle class. Enjoy your debt.

>> No.1726570

>>1726565

No, it would mean you were inside your mum's pussy is what it would mean

>> No.1726572

>>1726555

I usually use most of mine to cover extra costs like textbooks and shit, but yeah, it's really nice.

>> No.1726581

This troll is old and tiring.

>> No.1726586

>>1726572

Why aren't you actually working to pay for your degree instead of taking pity handouts from Uncle Sam

>> No.1726591 [DELETED] 

Because i'm from America. I went to Cambridge. The elite American universities are a joke, you just have to be rich and have connections to get in, at least to get into Oxbridge you have to not be a complete moron.

>> No.1726655

Dont agree with the massive expenses of the education system. Even with a 75% paid scholarship. I think great education should be available to everyone who reaches for it.

I do not regret traveling the world and seeing pieces of art like the "Winged Victory of Samothrace" in person then learnign about them in Humanitys II.

>> No.1726696

>implying Stanford Law School is not as good as an ivy league university

>> No.1726733
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1726733

Obviously this is a troll thread. But still.

I went to a top-10 liberal arts school for two years, then transferred to an Ivy League school (pic related). My experience: my education at the first school was far better--the course material was just as challenging, but the interaction with professors and other students was far better. There was a commitment to personal attention, to collaboration, and generally to the community there that I never experienced at the Ivy. Add to that that I gave up a full ride to transfer, and ended up with about $30K in debt over those second two years, and I've often regretted my decision.

If I were deciding again, I'd probably stick with the libarts. Kids who do better with competition, and are better self-starters than I, might do better with the big Ivy school.

On the other hand, the Ivy's name has opened doors for me--I know for a fact that I walked into a job I was unqualified for simply because of that name on my resume. And in the end, $30K wasn't so much debt to contend with, given the additional salary I've probably earned in return.

>> No.1726739

>>1726445

i was, thanks.

>> No.1726745

>Ivy League school
>smart

You don't seem to understand what it is the Ivy League sells for its exorbitant tuition rates...

>> No.1726751

>>1726445

i went to two ivy leagues: princeton, then harvard. neither were worth the money, and neither deserve the reputation that they currently possess. my brother went to yale, where his experience was similar.

you mad that you're getting a degree that won't matter after the first job interview?

>> No.1726756

>>1726733

columbiafag here. i agree with what the cornellfag posted above. ivies are pretty big universities and as such the professors tend be to busy and just all around dickish so one doesn't receive a whole lot of close attention and instruction.

however just having the name on my resume has certainly opened doors for me. people seem impressed with it and though i don't think myself exceptionally talented or anything (i was pretty much a B/B+ student) employers seem to favor me over others, whether that's deserved or not.

i don't regret my time there and though it was challenging sometimes, often i felt kind of like we were all going through the motions and half-assing it in a lot of ways. probably no different from anywhere else, but it did seem kind of like a pressure cooker.

>> No.1726799

>>1726445
I can't afford it.

>> No.1726872

I go to Tufts for international relations, an interdisciplinary major that exists in very few other places, and that possesses an excellent reputation among a number of employers and firms. The professors foster very close relationships with students, the social life here is both relaxed and engaging, and I've already been given academic and professional opportunities that are pretty up there, despite only being a sophomore.

So, am I mad that this isn't an "Ivy League"? For the name, only maybe. I wouldn't trade anything else for the world. Oh and we give good financial aid for the most part.

>> No.1726889

Ivy Leagues aren't good at engineering and from the research I did before I chose my major it seems engineers are what people want to hire. So instead of paying 50,000 a year for a college I will get a worthless degree from I went to the school in my state for free and is ranked as the number 4 college for engineering. Pretty good deal huh.

>> No.1726895

Because I was one of 35k applicants to a school that takes about 1/30th of that, half of which are legacies and the other half decided by lottery.

Honestly, I don't give a fuck. I'll be dead some day anyhow.

>> No.1726907

If you're lucky enough that your parents are footing the bill, go Ivy League.

Otherwise, it's not worth it. The premium you pay to go to an Ivy League school isn't covered by the increased amount you'd expect to earn from having gone there vs a moderately-priced state school. Sure, it might give you a slight edge in your first job interview out of school, but if you're pretty smart then you should have no trouble finding a job no matter what. Once you've been out of school for a couple years, nobody gives a fuck about your degree; only your work experience matters.

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1726983

Why? Because I'm sitting here with my FSU Business degree working the same job and making the same amount of money as my Harvard, Columbia, and Yale co-workers.

Ivy League undergrad degrees only get you a reputation as holier-than-thou. Yeah, if you play your cards right, you can make connections, but in the end a name won't get you any more money than the next guy.

Masters and Doctorates, however, are another story.

>> No.1726984

>>1726895
>>1726907

all misinformation. legacies constitute only a tiny percentage of acceptances all admissions are need-blind and the financial aid is actually very fucking generous.

>> No.1727083

>>1726984

i don't where you've gotten your information. granted, the financial aid is generous: as i recall, princeton, at least 2 years ago, claims that no student will graduate with debt. if you divide their endowment among the student population (the endowment is smaller than harvards, but per student its greater), it comes to about 1.7 million. obviously a lot of money, and they tend to use it well in the service of ensuring that, yes, no student will graduate with debt.

but, as far as legacies are concerned, you're misinformed. if we consider legacies to simply be students of parents or siblings that had also attended the institution, then perhaps you have a point. but if we look at the number of kids that get in due to connections or checks, then the divide between legitimate admits and "legacy" admits (i group them all into 1 category) becomes staggering. not to mention the atrocious atheltic admits: 4 kids were accepted from my high school in 2007 to princeton--of those, 2 were lacrosse players (1 of which had a C+ average, but was well connected; the other was a B student). the third was well connected, and i was well connected. all admits to princeton that year were either well connected or atheletes.

the problem is not so much what they do with their financial aid, but who is it goes to: mainly kids that come from middle-to-upper-class families who can afford to pay for the education at least in part, if not in whole.

let's put it this way: I NEVER ran into a poor kid at princeton. I did at harvard, but it was rare.

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1727084

>>1726983

>FSU

Tallahassee here, how long ago did you graduate? Just on the off-chance that I might know you or something.

>> No.1727090

>>1726872

>International Relations, an interdisciplinary major that exists in few other places

>International Relations major

>Exists in few other places

You know, I hate to tell you this...

>> No.1727093

I'm Canadian.

>> No.1727096

>>1726872

Do you know an Art History major there named Anna?

>> No.1727098

>>1727090
ha aw

>> No.1727110

community college is much more romantic than a boojy ivy league school. duh are you even trying?

liberal arts are synonymous with underachieving; we're the last people who would even begin to care about 'status.'

>> No.1727115

>>1726445
Hey OP, I go to MIT. If you're so smart, why did you go to a pompous, overrated Liberal Arts school? It's cute how you think you're better than everyone though.

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1727121

fuck money, id hope most /lit/s are educating for the sake of themselves of vag.

>> No.1727125

>>1727115

what are you studying?

i took a class at MIT while in cambridge.

legitimately the finest technical institute on the planet. mad respect.

>> No.1727563

>>1727110

>Community College
>Two-year terminal degree
>Study to be qualified for low-paying job, have to wait years before you can finally go back to college and retake your freshman year to get a higher-level degree

OR

>Community College
>Useless two-year certificate sealing four years of college

AND

>Can't pursue dual Associates degrees w/in a 2-year time frame

As a CCfag I can tell you there is nothing romantic about it

>> No.1727566

>>1726872

Every politician in my state and at least three novelists I've read have an International Studies/International Affairs degree from somewhere other than Tufts. Keep believing in your special little snowflake-ness.

>> No.1727588

>>1727563
That's not entirely correct to be honest...

I'm finishing my associates (lolgeneralstudiesAA) this semester, then transferring immediately to another school. It's just easier to transfer credits out of state with an AA, and I like the idea that I actually graduate with something other than meaningless credits.

Also, not all CC's are bad you know...the one I attend is actually better than many four-year institutions. I would gladly stay here for four years if they offered.

As for you OP, it's because Ivy leagues are for rich fratboys who buy their way through school. The earning potential isn't enough to make up for the cost of the schooling anyway for the average person. It's also insanely difficult to get in if your parents aren't Alumni, and forget transferring in...most of them won't even look at you.

>> No.1727610

>>1727121

That is a beautiful creature in your picture.

>> No.1727611

>>1727588

My state college system only lets credits transfer in-state.

>> No.1727640

>>1726445
>>1726733

those are some hella nice looking campuses

>> No.1727686 [DELETED] 

I spent my three years of undergrad studying History and Political Science at two Ivy League institutions. They're good for the edge that dropping their name gives you, but both were infested with right wing and 'traditional' historians and political scientists, meaning I was deprived of everything I find interesting about both fields. Social and cultural histories were left largely untouched and we never devoted more than a few lectures over the entire degree to discussing historiography or practices of recording and interpreting history. We were simply dictated a teleological narrative of one perspective and expected to memorise it. Similarly, in political science classes, newer, more 'radical' theories such as poststructuralism, feminism, and postcolonialism were never given any credence.

I opted to get my masters degree from a European University that is well above average standing, but not 'Ivy League'. The academic environment is completely different, and all aspects of the discipline are taught by a diverse brew of scholars and academics from all over the world.

I feel like I wasted my undergrad, except for the fact that without having a qualification from such a University, I would never have got in here to do my masters in the first place.

Fucked up system, ya'll..

>> No.1727689

>>1727686
>poststructuralism, feminism, and postcolonialism were never given any credence.

That's because they don't have any.

>> No.1727691

I spent my three years of undergrad studying History and Political Science at two Ivy League institutions. They're good for the edge that dropping their name gives you, but both were infested with right wing and 'traditional' historians and political scientists, meaning I was deprived of everything I find interesting about both fields. Social and cultural histories were left largely untouched and we never devoted more than a few lectures over the entire degree to discussing historiography or practices of recording and interpreting history. We were simply dictated a teleological narrative of one perspective and expected to memorise it. Similarly, in political science classes, newer, more 'radical' theories such as poststructuralism, feminism, and postcolonialism were never given any credence.

I opted to get my masters degree from a European University that is well above average standing, but not 'Ivy League'. The academic environment is completely different, and all aspects of the discipline are taught by a diverse brew of scholars and academics from all over the world.

I feel like I wasted my undergrad, except for the fact that without having a qualification from such a University, I would never have got in here to do my masters in the first place.

Fucked up system, ya'll...

>> No.1727697

>>1727689
I'm sorry I deleted my post, I left out a period meaning I only had 2/3rds of an ellipses and it was bugging me.

And it doesn't matter if I agree with them or not, they're important and emerging theories that do have some level of credibility within the disciplines as a whole. Completely ignoring their existence, or only bringing them up as scare words to justify your own beliefs is bullshit. And that's exactly what happened.

>> No.1727700

>>1727083
>i don't where you've gotten your information

from the ivy league school that i attend. you?

>> No.1727720

>>1727083
>if we consider legacies to simply be students of parents or siblings that had also attended the institution

what do you think "legacy" means? like i said, those legacies only constitute a fraction of the incoming class every year.

you're using vague anecdotal evidence to make the claim that the admissions system is somehow corrupt with some shadowy "system of connections" that is supposedly exclusive to ivies. this is just stupid and actually common at every school. athletes will always slip by with poorer grades, for example.

i agree with you in that the system is designed in a such a way so that only certain people reap the benefits from it, but it's a general class problem and not exclusive to higher education. i think that might be what you're seeing: a system where those in the upper classes have access to better education and materials all their life and therefore are usually better education and eligible to get into the top schools. it's a scam that starts well, well before college, my friend.

and i should know, i was one of those few poor students (and i mean food stamps/welfare poor) at my ivy. it's a much broader problem.

>> No.1727723

>>1727720
I do agree with this post, but I think the problem is more pronounced at the Ivies than at other schools. It's the pinnacle, as it were. But I agree that a lot of this is a broader problem with class in America.

>> No.1727724

My state uni completely paid my way. I'm studying to be a teacher, and will be on the job market with no debt.

Could be worse.

>> No.1727727

>>1727724
>thinks the market for teachers isn't already flooded

>> No.1727728

>>1727727
actually, no. all the baby boomers are retiring.

you're a shit troll.

>> No.1727729

Britfag here. I studied PPE at Oxford - 2007 - 2008 but dropped out. I now work at BBC radio.

University is great if you can get over the unprecedented amount of fools you're bound to meet who think Grammar School and an elite University is insurance against stupidity - I couldn't.

>> No.1727740

>>1727729
I really really hate those people. Almost as much as people who couldn't possibly not have an en suite, because sharing a toilet is icky, and working in anything but the professions is for stupid people.

>> No.1727759

I am at an Ivy League school. OP's insecurity is very sad to see.

>> No.1727774

I'm going to go to The University of Florida and I think I'll have fine opportunities there.

>> No.1727787

post count ITT is proportional to the number of dumb kids on this site

more accurate than a survey thread

anyone who took OP seriously deserves everything that's coming to them

>> No.1727815

>>1727774

>UF

Gainesville is a shit town. Should have done yourself a favor and gone to FSU, in Tallahassee, where the real men go to college.

>> No.1727837

>>1727774

Enjoy your poorfag version of Duke

>> No.1727838

>>1727815

see, now that's just wrong on all accounts.

>> No.1727857

>>1727815
UF has a better Psychology program and seems to have more opportunities. I was originally going to go to FSU, but I loved UF after visiting it.

>> No.1727860

>>1727837
LOL or maybe I chose a school in Florida because I'd rather be close to my brother in Tampa for undergrad?

>> No.1727866

>>1727860
>I'd rather be close to my brother in Tampa for undergrad?
does your brother wipe your arse or something

>> No.1727872

>>1727866
HA!
he's got a brother

>> No.1727899

>>1727720

i don't mean to give "vague anecdotal evidence," but when it comes to proving imbalances in the admissions game, and if you are not an admissions officer, then anecdotal evidence is really all you CAN give. perhaps it was different at your ivy league institution: at princeton, at least, the disparity between rich and poor was so great that, even if you do get in, there is the further class-determined split in eating clubs. let's say that princeton opens their doors to some poor kids; but the ability for those students to then be admitted to, say, ivy club (where the wealthiest kids tend to be, though it is also split into other clubs such as cloister and cottage) is virtually non-existent. the divide between wealthy and poor is not stricken by the name, but in fact hides under its rather elusive facade.

i do agree with you--it is obviously a process that begins significantly before college. i remember kids dropping 3k a weekend on private SAT tutors and professional essayists just so they could nab that seat at harvard--not to mention the kids that do have connections, which means that its just a quick phone call or a dinner and that's it (this DOES happen, despite whether or not you want to believe it, and is in fact the method that got me in as well).

>> No.1727902

>>1727899

>and is in fact the method that got me in as well

lol white privilege

>> No.1727907

>>1727902

well it's true. i'm claiming that it is a horribly unjust system--i have firsthand experience in the process.

>> No.1727908

>>1727860

No one of any real worth lives in Tampa

Unless you are in the commercial shipping industry or whatever you really have no reason to be in the Tampa Bay area in the first place

>> No.1727911

>>1727908

i have an aunt who lives in tampa. she's a fat mormon who squandered a small fortune and randomly married a bulgarian artist who is 23 years her elder. no joke.

so yeah, i agree, no one of any real worth lives in tampa.

>> No.1727912

>>1727083

the yale difference

>> No.1727914

>>1727912

what do you mean? i didn't reference yale...

>> No.1727936

>>1727914
>got into Princeton primarily through some connections
>is trippin' on 4chan

I mean yeah trippin' on /lit/ is p fucking cool and all, but shouldn't you be out like uh... crashing your aston martin into a bentley and maybe raping people and then getting away with it all?

>> No.1727941

>>1727936

posted a picture of my bentley on here last week, actually.

you're totally missing my argument. suck the long hard cock of wealth.

>> No.1727949

>>1727941
I think you'll find that wealth and Bentleys are a substitute for long hard cocks.

>> No.1727952

>>1727914
i'm saying yale is the third of that ivy triforce where poor kids abound

>> No.1727953

>>1727941
I might be missing your argument, but then you're missing the fact that I've read maybe 4 posts in this thread.

>> No.1727963

>>1726445
You're a crap troll, but to humour you, I've done my undergrad degree and am doing my postgrad at TCD and find it much more preferable than an Ivy League school, which is why I'm not attending them. Does that answer everything?

>> No.1727967

>>1727963

>Trinity College

still takes only the best of the best

You can't be among the inferior levels of society and still expect to get into Trinity

>> No.1727968

>>1727952
yalefag i can verify

>> No.1727974

you guys are fucking pathetic

>> No.1727982

>>1727967
>still takes only the best of the best
>500 points

>> No.1727994

>>1727953

then don't comment.

i don't understand: here we are, trying to dissect some of the imbalances and injustices hard-wired into the american educational system, injustices that determine how wealth is distributed and reproduced, and all you have to say is some stupid, snarky comment? and then you wonder why things never change, why these problems exist, or why i'm wealthier than you are?

i take back what i said. ivies are awesome--if only because they keep out stupidity like you, and ensure that, at least at the highest levels, wealth wont spill over into the pool of such mediocrity.

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1727999

>mfw when having checked the points just now for the first time I could have studied philosophy in the most prestigious academic institute in my country but I didn't realise it at the time

>> No.1728001

>>1727899

that's nice and all re: the eating clubs, but still has nothing to do with admissions process.

my school is fortunate enough to not have a hugely institutionalized club culture. we have no secret societies. only fraternities and sororities and only one of them is anything like what you describe. perhaps my school is just more egalitarian.

and as a former tampa resident, i can confirm that the place is a stinking hole. very glad to be away from it.

>> No.1728003

Not American. Applying for Ivy League grad school, though.

>> No.1728004

>>1726445
If you're so satisfied, why do you need to rag on us? IQ envy? ;)

>> No.1728005

>>1727999
Why don't you apply to study there now? Not like there's an age limit or anything, right?

>> No.1728007

>>1727787
Everyone deserves everything that's coming to them.

>> No.1728009

>>1727982
I think TSM Eng/Psych my year was ~560... But BESS kids could get away with <500, so I suppose it varied a good deal.

>> No.1728012

>>1728001

it has everything to do with admissions. think about it: the initial admissions to, say, princeton supposedly brings with it the name of princeton and the possibility to make strong connections in whatever field/industry you might want to pursue. this is false--i'm saying that, within the structure of the institution, there is a second, unofficial admissions process where class dynamics play THE deciding role. the initial admissions is a quasi-front, accepting, in princeton's case, a disproportionate number of unqualified athletes, legacies, donors and connections, who will then be narrowed down based on pretentious family lineages within the school itself. that you are admitted initially is a an achievement undermined by the fact that this is NOT the real admissions game, but only stepping stone.

>> No.1728020

>>1728012

i know this kid IRL. i would probably listen. he's got a building named after him (or at least his family) at princeton, most likely elsewhere as well.

>> No.1728023

>>1728020

who are you?

>> No.1728026

>>1727999
I know that feel.
;_;

>> No.1728047

>>1728023
I would normally say you were right, however I have three separate families who are close friend of ours. That's not too out of the normal, except the part where each of them are all 3 generation (and 4th in one case) all Princeton graduates, too wealthy for their own good, and donate up to a few million a year. One family even had a building named after them. Each of these families had kids who applied to Princeton. Not one of the 5 kids got in. Now I'm not saying that these kids were at all qualified to be admitted regardless of legacy or wealth, but I am saying that you might be putting a wee bit too much emphasis on legacy and donation as being valued by the admissions committee.

>> No.1728048

>>1728012

explain how my poor ass got in, then. i am not an athlete or legacy. was it my poverty and minority status (hispanic) that allowed me to access this level of education that i've never even really had my whole life?

>> No.1728053

>>1728048

hispanic. tell me honestly: if you couldn't check hispanic on that online app, do you think you would have gotten in?

which ivy?

>> No.1728060

>>1728053

i would like to think so, yes. but you're telling me that i'm deluded.

>> No.1728061

>>1728047

if they are donating a cool million a year, then this is absolutely bullshit.

which building they donate? the newest is whitman college, from ebay's meg whitman, so i'm guessing that....

>> No.1728063

eat the rich

for real tho, fuck the rich, tax the shit out of them

>> No.1728065

>>1728060

you don't think that they have racial quotas? i'm not saying that you're not qualified regardless of race, but it's a well-known fact that places like princeton overwhelmingly favor minority applicants who have the same statistics as non-minority kids. i'm not saying your race is what got you in--but it sure as hell helped. to pretend otherwise is just ridiculous. you know how many people want to check that hispanic or, better yet, native american box when applying to ivy leagues?

>> No.1728068

going to stonybrook. from missouri. feelsgoodman.

>> No.1728069

>>1728061
As much as I would love to give out names to people on the internet, I will have to decline. I will however tell you that one girl ended up at Stanford, one girl and one guy went to Vanderbilt and the other two guys went to UPenn and Yale, much to the chagrin of some of the relatives, but such is life.

>> No.1728078

>>1728069

don't believe you. the newest buildings, like i said, are whitman college and frist campus center. whitman's kid is at princeton now, and frist's kid graduated just a couple of years ago. i guess they just built a new engineering building as well, but the donors for that have without question gotten their kids in.

>> No.1728091

Anybody dumb enough to post in a thread like this is too dumb to get into an ivy league school.

>> No.1728092

>>1728020

what building did he donate? i'm at princeton now

>> No.1728093

>>1728078
I don't think I ever said you had to believe me or anything. On a side note, I never said that the building was as recent as Whitman.

>> No.1728102

>>1728093

are you at an ivy-league?

>> No.1728106

>>1728102
Yes, but I'll be honest I do not see how it's relevant.

>> No.1728109

>>1728092

if he is who i think he is, then rockefeller college. for reals.

i could b wrong tho

>> No.1728114

>>1728065

what is with this cheap appeal to pathos, here? to hell with your typical white condescension.

>> No.1728119

>>1728106

i was just curious. which one? and do you like it?

and are you the hispanic kid from above?

>> No.1728129

>>1728119
No I am not the aforementioned Hispanic kid. As long as I'm here though, I do go to Harvard and am liking it quite well.

>> No.1728139

i'm the hispanic kid. i go to columbia.

speaking of, i'm off to class. ttyl rich-kids.

>> No.1728142

>>1728114

ok let's play a little game. type into google "law school calculator" and then type in for the stats 165 lsat and, say, a 3.8 GPA (these are not my stats, but seem to be the relative average). first do it without URM (unrepreseted minority status). your chance of getting into yale law school (#1 ranking) is a 0% chance. now do the same stats with URM selected. it now jumps to 25% chance of admissions.

you think race doesn't matter in college admissions and post-graduate study? jesus christ. grow up.

>> No.1728155

>>1728129

what are you studying? in my experience, harvard CAN be an incredible academic environment, if your studying under the right people and within the right subjects.

>> No.1728168

Because I come from a middle class family that doesn't qualify for much financial aid and I can't afford the cost of an Ivy League school. Plus my mom works at Penn State, so I get 75% off my tuition there. I'd rather get a degree at a good state school with very little in debt than Harvard and have $100,000 in loans to pay off.

>> No.1728181

>>1728155
I can definitely get behind that sentiment, however as I may have previously indicated, I'm not one to go nuts about giving away information on the internet. So I'll just tell you that I'm currently majoring in an engineering discipline or science.

>> No.1728187
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Because I was a huge faggot in high school. I had straight A's all through middle school but as soon as freshman year hit I went down into that spiraling oblivion of WAAAAH. Failed everything (or passed due to generosity, finals being weighted more, etc.) for two years, cleaned up my act in junior year the final semester - after I went to juvie for truancy. Get B's and A's now, as a senior, and scored 2200 on the SAT.

Add all that to having a < $20,000 income and you don't really have Ivy league material. I'm going to community college. If I do well I will probably try to transfer (California sucks anyway).

It's sad but I know I'm only going to apply to community college and Yale. I always wanted to go to Yale... I'll never get in, and I wouldn't go if I did, but...

>mfw

>> No.1728195

Maybe because I didn't apply for one? Why should I want to?

This is one of the easiest troll threads ever.

>> No.1728202

Well because I'm still doing my A levels OP. That and it would be very odd for a working class English boy to go to an expensive, top American university. You'd have to be exceptionally clever and lucky to get a scholarship to cover international fees.

I'm aiming to do Norwegian (Scandinavian Studies) and German at UCL, Edinburgh or last choice Aberdeen. If anyone has any experience of Scandinavian studies or these unis please tell me. I'd be grateful!

>> No.1728216

>>1728155
>>1728155
I remember your thread from last week. I got b& that night and had to stop participating, but you are by far my favorite trip.

Hey everyone! This guy is special! We all asked him to put on a perma-trip so we could know to give extra weight to his posts since he is so awesome! You should see all the books he has read! Not sarcastic exclamation marks; I'm really excited!

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1728224

>mfw i go to fucking brown university and smoke mad pot and read kurt vonnegut

OP: /lit/ is full of pseudo-intellectuals who want to compensate for their lack of education by dedicating themselves to obscure topics like the true meaning of Nietzsche's writings.

Let it go

9/10 btw

Awesome troll thread

>> No.1728227

>go to community college for 2 years
>transfer to UC Berkeley (a public school that outranks many Ivy League schools)
>pay nearly half as much as what people who go directly to a 4 year school pay

I don't need your pity, brah.

>> No.1728232

>>1728216

he's a rockefeller on top of it. crazy, crazy kid

your non-sarcastic exclimation marks do a beautiful job of conveyng sarcasm. well done.

>> No.1728301

>>1728232
No, seriously. Not sarcastic. They would be beautiful sarcasm, but that's really what happened and really how I feel about it. He's a cool guy.

>> No.1728375

I'm Canadian, not to mention I'm not rich enough to spend tens of thousands of extra dollars on a slightly different piece of paper that allows me to academically namedrop in front of pseudo-intellectual WASPs.

Also, I started in a BFA program, so even if I went "Canadian Ivy League" (i.e. UofT, McGill, Queens, etc.), I'd have been a laughingstock within my chosen profession.

Despite having switched my program of study to an academic one (linguistics & applied linguistics), I still probably won't consider applying to Ivy League grad schools. I'd like to go into literary translation, so staying around Ontario/Québec makes a lot more sense than moving to a country with only one official language.

but yeah, Ivy League schools are great if you want to be sheltered from the real-life content of everything you're studying

>> No.1728406

So tell me Ivy League students,

If you like to feel good, why don't you abuse heroin instead of sublimating your desire for pleasure into the pursuit of prestige? I feel bad for you, because you don't even realize how indirect you are being from fear of moral or social judgment.

>> No.1728443

>>1728406

That question was completely fucking incoherent.

>> No.1728454

>>1728375

An Ivy League education doesn't shut you out from the world. It opens up doors to it.

>> No.1728459

Well, ya know, funny thing the OP brings up. I'm going to a State U for my undergrad so I can get into a damn good grad school. A few years of research, a solid GPA, and some good recommendations, and I'll be set.

But seriously, fuck most of the people who go to Ivy Leagues, I'm not rich enough to afford your education, so stop shoving the fact you're going to Columbia, or Brown, or Stanford, or any of the other Ivy Leagues.

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>>1728443
>doesn't understand ''sublimation"
>doesn't understand "coherency"
>subtly defending elitism
WUT

>> No.1728468

Sure is stereotypical resentment around here.

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1728542

I go to a top 20 school (depending on whose metric you're using) in the US and originally was upset about not being at an Ivy, but then I thought about all the people I know at Ivy league schools and I really don't like any of them at all. They were all either tryhard ass kissers who had nothing interesting to contribute or athletes. Everyone cool I know went either to a liberal arts or an art school or just got a job.

>> No.1728551

Michel Foucault taught at SUNY Buffalo, so you can't really judge an education based on school name

>> No.1728746

>>1728542

note that none of your art school friends is going to accomplish anything with their lives. the art school graduates i know are now all either unemployed, living off of disability checks or housewives.

if you're lucky some of the liberal arts kids might grow up to be novelists, though. like donna tartt or brett easton ellis, both of them went to a liberal arts school.

>> No.1728760

>>1728551

>implying that Foucault was of use.

>> No.1728762

>implying I wasted my time with college
laughinggirls.jpg

>> No.1728883

The thought of going to an Ivy-League school makes me cringe. I do not want that kind of pressure, workload, or stress. I can learn what I need somewhere that won't give me a hemorrhage by the time I'm 30.

>> No.1728899

>>1728883
Those are pretty good reasons not to go to one, even if you have the chance. Choose a good school that will treat you more kindly. For instance, my first-half-alma-mater, Whitman College, is a very good liberal arts school and a lovely place to be.

>> No.1728908

>>1728899

And what has your school produced besides Richard Nixon?

>> No.1728910

art school grad here.
editor.
feelsgoodman

>> No.1728922

Because I got a 2.9 in high school because of a bad semester of French II and Algebra II.

French II was bullshit, it was a single late project that killed my grade. I was never really good at math, especially algebra, but my Algebra II class was taught by a 65-year old war veteran with a hook arm who scared the living shit out of me, even though he never said a single word directed specifically at me.

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1728929

>Implying we ever said we're so smart
We just like books, man. You might feel like you have something to prove, but we don't. Do you go to an Ivy League college, OP? This is me not giving a fuck.

>> No.1728931

>>1728908
That was Whittier College. Whitman College produced Adam West, motherfuckers. Also, William O. Douglas.

>> No.1728932

>>1728922

>blaming bad grades on other people

No wonder you ended up having to go to a community college.

>> No.1728951

>>1728454
What I meant is that if you're studying anything where an understanding of diverse cultures would be an asset, it seems unlikely that your education would be at all enriched by the social climate of an Ivy League school.

>> No.1728957

>>1728951
>Significant portion of East and South Asians, Arabs/Turks, and various Europeans @ any given Ivy League school

>implying your cultural understanding wouldn't be enriched

>> No.1728959

If you're so smart why don't you go to wordsthatfollow.com and join my game? you know what it is

>> No.1728989

Because I never cared about academia. I'm addicted to learning, but the sense of obligation I got from my schools turned me off from taking it seriously.

It's a major fault that's taken me some time to overcome. Eventually I realized I shouldn't treat schools as an education, but rather as a means towards better opportunities. Wish I had learned that sooner.

>> No.1728992

>>1728957
pls define "siginificant portion".

>> No.1729001

I was.

>> No.1729015

dartmouthfag here

#1 undergraduate education, smallest ivy, big name,

Ivy league or bust