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why has there never been a female philosopher?
were any of them trannies we can grandmother in?

>> No.16988677

>>16988666
>why has there never been a female philosopher
Because you don't read. Here's 5:
>GEM Anscombe
>Philippa Foot
>Judith Jarvis Thomson
>Martha Nussbaum
>Ruth Millikan
Read more.

>> No.16988681

>>16988666
because women have no souls

>> No.16988684

>>16988677
how about before the 20th century

>> No.16988695

>>16988684
Eh, a few, most prominently Anne Conway, who was a major influence on Leibniz. It's tough to name any more because most women weren't taught to read serious stuff like Aristotle and weren't allowed to teach at universities until the 20th century.

>> No.16988698

>>16988666
Supposedly Socrates was tutored by a woman named Diotima, so I guess a woman founded Western philosophy.

>> No.16988704

>>16988666
Women have smaller brains that are incapable of deep thought, like animals.

>> No.16988706

>>16988666
Aspasia
Diotima
Hypatia

>> No.16988710

>>16988666
Hildegard of Bingen and some other female mystics.

>> No.16988711

>>16988704
there have been animal philosophers, such as paul the octopus

>> No.16988718

>>16988695
>It's tough to name any more because most women weren't taught to read serious stuff like Aristotle and weren't allowed to teach at universities until the 20th century.
well there's the answer i was looking for

>> No.16988730

>>16988684
Mary Wollstonecraft
Margaret Cavendish

>> No.16988749

>>16988718
Then you should have asked, "why has there never been a female philosopher pre-1900" retard.
>>16988730
Let's be honest, anon. Neither of those are great philosophers. They just happened to write things tangentially related to philosophy.

>> No.16988756

>>16988677
literally who??

>> No.16988767

>>16988749
They weren't titans of the field but they were philosophers

>> No.16988773

>>16988677
>>16988706
>>16988710
>>16988730
what?

>> No.16988776

>>16988756
The fact that you've never even heard of Anscombe, the founder of analytic thomism and one of the main people in philosophy in the 1950s displays your erudition.

>> No.16988783

>>16988767
I think he meant like, "important philosophers" or "well-respected philosophers." Like, Ayn Rand definitely wouldn't count.

>> No.16988784

>>16988783
ayn rand gave us bioshock

>> No.16988786

>>16988666
Beauvoir, Rosa Luxemburg, the list goes on...

>> No.16988794

>>16988776
meh she probably stole it from her husband or some shit lol

>> No.16988796

>>16988786

I too say 'the list goes on' when I've run out of examples.

>> No.16988797

>>16988666
ITT: anons who cant name one decent woman philosopher

>> No.16988802

>>16988730

The mental (cerivcal) gymnastics lmao.

>> No.16988803

>>16988797
>woman philosopher
No such thing

>> No.16988806

>>16988794
Her husband, Peter Geach, had very different views and interests from her.

>> No.16988815

>>16988796
Yes, you understood the joke

>> No.16988816

>>16988797
ITT: Anons who haven't spent a day in the actual philosophical field delegitimize major philosophers because they aren't popular in easily digestible media.

>> No.16988822

>>16988806
so it was not her husband. man why are women such whores

>> No.16988823

>>16988794
based mysoginist

>> No.16988834

>>16988822
She was an Irish Catholic who got arrested for protesting against abortion and opposed birth control. I doubt your explanation of Anscombe's life.

>> No.16988866

The Passion According to G.H. by Clarice Lispector is arguably my favorite philosophical novel. "What I want is to live of that initial and primordial thing that made somethings reach the point of aspiring to be human". I often wonder about the translation but who has time to learn Portuguese.

>> No.16988871

>>16988834
that makes no sense. are you by a chance a women?

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>>16988796

>> No.16988900

>>16988666
Plato
Voltaire
Aristotle
Jacobi

>> No.16988910

>>16988749
He didn't ask for great philosophers, he asked for philosophers.

>> No.16988916

>>16988730
>Mary Wollstonecraft
She was not a philosopher, if she was a philosopher then so were many dozens of male authors of fiction

>> No.16988922

>>16988666
Diotima's a major one. Also Joan of Arc if you want to lump theologians in.

>> No.16988931

>>16988677
You’re making these up

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>>16988916
Wrong Mary Wollstonecraft (who was actually the other Mary Wollstonecraft's mother)

>> No.16989026

>>16988998
holy shit you retard, gender studies is not philosophy.
there were some mythical female philosophers of whom nothing remains which makes their claim vapid and truly nothing but a nice myth.
In todays time there still are no female philosophers; there are some good philologists perhaps, but no philosophers.

>> No.16989049

>>16989026
This political philosophy, not gender studies.

>> No.16989078

>>16988677
that's a lot of who's you got there

>> No.16989088

>>16988698
Bro she was literally a crack pipe smoking temple bitch who spread her legs over muh love. She was not a philosopher.

>> No.16989094

>>16988666
I had to read the work of Carol Gilligan to fulfill the obligatory feminism portion of my Ethics class. It was a crock of uninsightful, unoriginal, illogical crap. Just a mishmash of criticisms of legendary philosophers for being too rational, too white, and too male. I was inexperienced with philosophy and didn't care about feminism at the time but still I felt immediate disappointment because the previous works(Plato, Aristotle, Hobbes, Hume, Kant, Schopenhauer, Nietzche) all inspired a sense of awe and excitement in me.

>> No.16989143

>>16988698
Oh no litbros we got too cocky

>> No.16989251

>>16988666
Wittgenstein was trans unironically. Everyone assumes he was gay but gays don't have IQs that high, so he must have been AGP trans.

>> No.16989299

>>16988730
ohh like the banana

>> No.16989487

>>16989049
>men, women
gtfo this is gendre horseshit. the only thing women can write about that men dont care to touch. and only because these writers will write about anything from the point of view of their vagina.
its not philosophy, cunt.

>> No.16989510

>>16988666
Sarit Haddad
Niara Echrapoulous
Ellen Dumarquies
Eva Sturmschnitzel
Diana Bellendshurt

>> No.16989512

>>16989487
Have you read either of them?

>> No.16989773

>>16989078
>t. didn't went to college.

>> No.16989805

>>16988666
>Imaging not even knowing, at least, who Elizabeth Anscombe was

Imaging be such a fucking pseud, I bet 99% of your expose to Philosophy has been 5min quick reads of Wikipedia entries.

>> No.16989812

>>16988677
>Philippa Foot
>no pictures of her qt feet

What a waste.

>> No.16989837

>>16989487
Wollstonecraft work is philosophy in the same way Rousseau's political essays are philosophy you fucking imbecile.

>tries to be clever and confuses the author of Frankenstein with her relative
>gets called out for being a fucking pseud
>no no you cannot call political philosophy, philosophy, look the word "woman" is there omg

Fuck off with your moving the goal post bullshit.

>> No.16989846

>>16989773
>didn't went
well clearly neither did you kek
>>16989837
>tries to be clever and confuses the author of Frankenstein with her relative
not being able to discern anonymous posters is a sign of ineptitude.
Please fuck off roastie >>>/tumblr/

>> No.16989878

>>16988677
How do you know these names? These are really academic figures to know if you're not actively studying ethics. I am profoundly curious, and I definitely think the "read more" is wrongly used in this case.

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16989904

>>16988666
Silly Satan, it's because they've never not been oppressed, you know this.

>> No.16989958

>>16989878
anyone with a casual knowledge of analytic philosophy would know them. at least anscombe, foot, and nussbaum

>> No.16989987

>>16989878
1. I read books in my free time.
2. If you want to make wide-ranging statements about all philosophy, you should probably study philosophy.
3. These aren't unusual names. Millikan and Thomson might be, but I put Millikan in because she's a good example of someone who doesn't do ethics but rather hard philosophy of science. Certainly Anscombe is popular, and anyone who knows anything about ethics should have heard of Foot (Literally the patron saint of Pseudery due to her creation of the trolley problem). And Nussbaum does a lot of pop philosophy (although I've stuck to her real philosophy like Upheavals of Thought).

>> No.16990128

>>16989510
You made these up, or they are so ovscure that google can't find them

>> No.16990169

>>16989510
>Eva Sturmschnitzel
no way, nie im Leben, that is not a real name.

>> No.16990290

>>16990169
Sounds kinda cool though

>> No.16990301

>>16989088
>she was literally a crack pipe smoking temple bitch who spread her legs over muh love.
Unironically makes it even funnier that she was the one to kick off the Socrates->Plato->Aristotle chain
Western philosophy had humble beginnings I guess, but it came a long way

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16990581

> ctrl f
>no results
You’re all weak cowards

>> No.16990593

>>16988677
all the people saying "who?" have clearly never read philosophy in their lives. Anscombe is hella based

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16990841

>>16990581
Let's get real.

>> No.16991497

>>16988666
>grandmother

i'm surprise no one objected to that work being used.

is /lit/ pro-trans these days?

>> No.16991541

>>16988666
>why has there never been a female philosopher?
kek. This is like
>why has there never been a German Romanticist
>why does English never write in iambs?
>how come there are no atheist Russian writers
If you're stuck for names in response, you just plebbed your way out of patricianhood faster than a tranny could

>> No.16991599

>>16989251
Not true but trendy and gay to hold that view.

>> No.16991618

>>16989251
Bullshit, trans Wittgenstein is Sylvia Plath. Get your phone to do a gender swap filter and you'll see it, dumb phoneposter.

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16991622

>this many replies
>zero mention of pic related
Disgusted at you all.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simone_de_Beauvoir

>> No.16991628

>>16988666
because men just lobotomize women that think big thoughts.

>> No.16991629

>>16991622
Pedos don't count as philosophers

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>> No.16991651

>>16988677
>>Ruth Millikan
Actually pretty good

>> No.16991658

>>16988666
>man: hits blunt
>man: what if god is dead?
>cultural elite: Oh, BRAVO!
>woman: hits blunt
>woman: what if god is dead?
>cultural elite: Ah, how tragic. It seems this woman's husband has not beaten her enough.

>> No.16991666

>>16991629
>the greeks

>> No.16991683

Any Rand

>> No.16991731

>>16989958
>>16988677
academics are not philosophers, fucking philistine

>> No.16993550

>>16991666
>Or How I learnt to stop loving Alcibiades' ass and Learn to love knowledge instead

>> No.16993722

>>16988677
literally who

>> No.16993750

>>16988677
>autogenerated orc names you pulled from shadow of mordor or sims or some shit

Nice try sweetie, looks like you're not gonna be the prettiest princess astronaut.

>> No.16993790

>>16988666
>he doesn't know about Savitri Devi

NGMI

>> No.16993798

>>16991683
All of her work should I’m honestly just be burned and forgotten. It’s not just that they’re badly written (which they are), but the message in fully anti-human, it’s some of the worst trash the modern world has to offer.

>> No.16993802

>>16993790
She’s more of a mystic then a philosopher isn’t she?

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>>16991622
>>16991641
I’d fuck them but their work is dog shot and cringe

>>16990581
>>16990841
Wouldn’t even fuck

>> No.16993821

>>16993802
Why does one exclude the other? The only good female philosopher is Devi. There is no one else.
Read The Lightning and the Sun, it's truly beautiful and it emphasises her philosophical side.

>> No.16993826

>>16991622
>marxism BUT for girls
3deep5me.

>> No.16993874

>>16988666
For philosophers from Antiquity, I would say Hypatia of Alexandria would count, despite more of her mathematical works surviving today than her philosophical ones.
For 20th century female philosophers, I would definitely recommed Hannah Arendt

>> No.16993879

>>16991658
Based post