/sfg/ – Sanderfag General

[Anonymous No.16913548]

A place to discuss the work of the prolific and brilliant fantasy novelist, Brandon Sanderson. Breakout thread from /sffg/. Discuss all things Roshar ITT. Mods, please don't delete.

[Anonymous No.16913561]

>>16913548
To based for lit

[Anonymous No.16913580]

>>16913548
That's a big crab people

[Anonymous No.16913594]

>>16913548
>sanderson

[Anonymous No.16913606]

B

[Anonymous No.16913610]

Here's your kang, retards.

[Anonymous No.16913627]

the fall of /sffg/

[Anonymous No.16913637]

>>16913548
>>>/sffg/

[Anonymous No.16913655]

So bros, what do you think of Dalinar's relationship with Rysn? I almost am reminded of the way that Teft gets along with Sylphrena. Then there's Shallan and Adolin to consider. It's some really interesting intrigue and character-building, I must say.

[Anonymous No.16913710]

>>16913637
>>16913557

[Anonymous No.16913828]

Mistborn is a teen drama with some okay fantasy in it. Prove me wrong

[Anonymous No.16913841]

>>16913828
Really can't. The decent fantasy is there, I won't have the dishonesty to deny it, but the telenovela levels of teen romance and dialogue occupy a good 90% of the novels.

[Anonymous No.16913854]

>>16913841
Are other books better than Mistborn in terms of plot/"non-teenness"? I haven't had the strength to give another series a try.

[Anonymous No.16913870]

>>16913854
I tried another one because I saw it praised so much, but the writing was way worse than in Mistborn (which wasn't great to begin with), and it felt like I was reading some mecha anime type of shit. Can't remember the name of the thing. Will not give the author another shot (although I'm willing to recognize he did a decent job finishing the wheel of time).

[Anonymous No.16913894]

here you go, Sanderfags
https://www.idrlabs.com/gender-dysphoria/test.php

[Anonymous No.16913992]

>>16913870
Must have been that spaceship series he did. I didn't read it because it didn't really appeal to me and I think it's his one of his specifically YA series anyway. I like Mistborn but a lot of that appreciation comes from how the series ends.

If you couldn't stand the inoffensive teen drama in Final Empire you won't be able to get through Well of Ascension. Anything involving Vin becomes almost intolerable but the rest is good. Hero of Ages has one of my favorite "You don't win!" scenes.

>>16913854
Second set of Mistborn novels launches the teenaged characters into the sun but it feels a lot less focused and the characters aren't as good

I hate when books have teenagers in them. I'm sure I'd like Cinder Spires a lot more if it was just focusing on adults doing adult thing rather than a bunch of trainees and a ship captain.

[Anonymous No.16914150]

>>16913548
I am halfway through the new book, I listen to them on audible. Lirin Stormlight, the father of Kaladin, is a poorly fabricated character in my opinion. His belief system is so naive, so dangerously deadly to those around him, so pathetic, so lacking in wisdom that I find it incredibly difficult to believe that anyone finds him anything other than comical. The other characters should be dismissive of this sheltered, narcissistic fool, not hold him to a high regard.

[Anonymous No.16914424]

>>16914150
Liren's just as insane as Kaladin is and it's probably where he gets his predisposition for brain damage from. He's only respected for his knowledge and abilities. Nobody sympathizes with him or thinks he's right and the book doesn't portray him as right either.

Also it's "Stormblessed"

[Anonymous No.16914612]

>>16913828
You're mostly right, though the 3rd book lacks a lot of the teen drama aspect.
Honestly, I actually liked Vin getting used to being a noble. I wish if they ever make an adaptation they make a few filler episodes of misadventures during noble parties.

[Anonymous No.16915208]

Hey, I'm currently reading Elantris (just finished chapter 16) and this book is a nightmarish boring slog.
The characters are WAY worse than the Mistborn and Stormlight ones.
Every Serene chapter feels like torture, Shallan in retrospective seems an intriguing and truly (((witty))) character after reading this.
I'm just keeping it up for having a better understanding of the cosmere, but damn this is hard....
Does it get better later, or eventually?

[Anonymous No.16915538]

>>16915208
Raoden's segments get better. Hrathen ends up having his good moments.
Sarene though remains a boring piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.16915657]

Taravangian managed to surprise me. Good epilogue.

[Anonymous No.16915737]

Just realized mormons are redpilled about NSA backdoors after reading the mistborn novels.

[Anonymous No.16915870]

>>16915737
walk me through this

[Anonymous No.16915899]

>>16915208
Wow, he looks like a wonderful person

As for your question... ehhh...

It's the first book he sold so take that for what it is. Whether or not it matters depends entirely on how the planned Sel books turn out. Emperor's Soul was on the same planet and I think that was better

[Anonymous No.16915940]

>>16915538
I like that what ultimately fucked up Dilaf was an act of petty cruelty he probably didn't even remember.

[Anonymous No.16916970]

>>16913894
I thought I'd have at least a little bit

[Anonymous No.16917899]

>>16913894
>All questions are absurdly and painfully obvious
These tests are a joke but come on at least try.

[Anonymous No.16918363]

Has anyone trained an AI to autocomplete Stormlight Archive books yet?

[Anonymous No.16918487]

Black company has been kinda meh so far but the sniper mission with Croaker and Raven was pretty cool

[Anonymous No.16918507]

>in zoom call for class
>someone starts convo about books
>actual tranny mentions they started reading BRANNEN ZANDERZENS NEWEST EPIC FANTASY NOVEL RHYTHM OF WAR WITH AWESOME EPIC MAGIC SYSTEM WORLDBUILDING

does it get any better than this? pure comedy gold. the jokes write themselves.

[Anonymous No.16918509]

Tried reading The Way of Kings because of the overwhelmingly great reviews it has.
Got bored very quickly with the Mary Sue and Gary Stu characters. Sanderson is basically every fantasy cliche rolled into one. The only thing positive I can say about him is that at least he's not fucking Rothfuss.
A Mormon trying to write a gritty fantasy story but struggling to keep it within a PG-13 rated framework is pretty cringe.

[Anonymous No.16918756]

>hateposting in your own egowank thread

[Anonymous No.16918869]

>>16918509
You dare disrespect THE MASTER?

[Anonymous No.16918980]

>>16918509
>>16918869
How did Rothfuss become a thing? Name of the Wind doesn't have anything to set it up apart

[Anonymous No.16919122]

I enjoyed this series when I started it, but this latest book really has lost me. It's getting more boring, more irritatingly postmodern, and more needlessly complicated.

I really just read several hundred pages of a boring queen doing fake science to create magic antimatter.

All the characters are now demigods, and we need magic kryptonite fields, antimatter bombs, and other contrivances to give fights any tension.

We had an entire segment of the book covering a military campaign, and no battles are actually shown. Just Dalinar sitting by a fire talking philosophy with Taravangian. Shit, if this were Wheel of Time we'd have at least gotten some military strategy in there.

Shallan's now a nearly unreadable character with fantasy dissociative identity disorder, which is hilarious when you consider how much Sanderson claims he wants to accurately represent mental illness.

Speaking of mental illness, if a trans person becomes a radiant, it now canonically transitions them by magic. Wonderful.

Oh, and the big bad of the series just got Snoke'd and now we have a new bad guy.

So... fuck. I'm disappointed. The Bridge 4 arc in The Way of Kings legitimately got me invested, but the direction it's gone since is just... meh. At least tumblr is pissed off that Jasnah is now confirmed not to be a lesbo.

[Anonymous No.16919234]

>>16918980
>Name of the Wind doesn't have anything to set it up apart
Modern readers love a good cuck story.

[Anonymous No.16919674]

>>16919122
>I really just read several hundred pages of a boring queen doing fake science to create magic antimatter.
I actually liked that but I'm the sort of weirdo who got super invested in a shitty old JRPG when I found out it actually bothered to explain how magic and even the composition of matter in that universe works.

>Oh, and the big bad of the series just got Snoke'd and now we have a new bad guy.
You can't really call it Snoking when he actually gets replaced by something and it's something much worse.

>At least tumblr is pissed off that Jasnah is now confirmed not to be a lesbo.
You'd think she would be with her obnoxious smarter-than-you sociopathy and feminist ideals. I would hope she gets fucked up more than she did in the tiny skirmish but I think Sanderson fucked up when he decided you should be able to soulcast people.

[Anonymous No.16919941]

>>16919674
I enjoy a hard magic system, but this was just too much. I don't think it helped that I just don't care about Navani as a character.

As far as Taravangian... idk. I don't get why that was done. I don't get why he's still bound by Rayse's oaths. It seems like a twist for the sake of a twist.

[Anonymous No.16919967]

>>16913548
Are those upside down onions?

[Anonymous No.16919987]

>>16915208
>I'm just keeping it up for having a better understanding of the cosmere, but damn this is hard....
Does it really matter?

[Anonymous No.16920052]

>>16919941
It's a pretty common trop that killing a divine being and stealing its power gives you the same responsibilities as it too.

[Anonymous No.16920078]

>>16919122
Please

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spacing,

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[Anonymous No.16920117]

>>16920078
I use a custom keyboard extension on mobile and greentexting is a pain in the ass. Blow me.

[Anonymous No.16920154]

>>16920052
Won't fight you on that one. I just can't imagine how much difference the change will really make to the overall story.

[Anonymous No.16920194]

>>16920154
Well it's pointed out a bit in the book that Rayse fucked up repeatedly due to being old, injured and trapped on Roshar. Taravangian is still young, isn't injured and may be smarter overall. In the epilogue he already succeeded in outsmarting Hoid, which no one managed to do in a dozen or so books.

[Anonymous No.16920208]

>>16913627
Sffg recommended me the windup girl so I bought it and it’s been an overwhelming snooze fest, it’s been almost three weeks and I still haven’t finished it, can’t buy a new book cause I don’t want to waste the money and time I’ve put into this turd, need to suck it up and just knock out the rest in a day and get it over with

[Anonymous No.16920289]

>>16913548
Are there any good star wars books? I just watched the Mandalorian and kind of want to fag out and read some extended universe stuff.

[Anonymous No.16920370]

Anyone read this piece of crap?

The first book held some interest. The idea of your typical fantasy setting taking place at pre-bronze age rather than generic medieval was novel. Unfortunately this book was all about how great this group of women are and the preface itself talks about how much the writer loves them.

You have the village leader's wife who is constantly told how great she is by everyone who doesn't want to kill her. Her female bodyguard who desperately wants to fuck her and is not subtle about it. A literal autistic child who managed, between bouts of shrieking every time she gets touched, to invent the bow. And an admittedly inoffensive wild child who has the setting's OP-as-fuck magic powers.

The guy I thought was the main character spent the entire book fretting over a contest of champions to decide the leader of all the human clans. It was clear he'd die because his position was more due to getting lucky and shanking an elf rather than martial prowess.

Well after the group of wonderful girls kill a demon on behalf of the jewiest group of dwarves I have ever seen in anything ever, they come back. Bodyguard girl immediately takes a bow and kills the challenger outside of a proper duel. After that the once main character tells the village leader how wonderful and perfect she is and that she should be the queen of humanity. Everyone claps.

I only got it because I liked the guy they got to narrate the audiobook.

[Anonymous No.16920387]

I read way of kings when I was 14. Is it the book with the King who does a deal with a spirit and has massive variance in his intellect daily?

[Anonymous No.16920423]

>>16920387
Yep

[Anonymous No.16921373]

Right so I'm about half way through the first book in Stormlight atm, Sanderson is a bit of a cringe writer (I'd attribute that to being mormon) but it's entertaining enough. Dalinar hard carries the seres. Szeth is alright but not in it too much, Kaladin is good unless it's a flashback chapter. Shallan is just fucking god awful, I can only imagine her "wit" is what mormons think is funny. Either that or she's a self absorbed teenager in a mormon world where no one will tell her to fuck up.

[Anonymous No.16921387]

>>16920370
Yea I stopped after the first book, interesting setting but the story just made my eyes roll out the head.

[Anonymous No.16921422]

Imagine having 4500 pages and still no character depth and having only visited the same 3 places.

[Anonymous No.16921636]

>>16921373
Oh, you think Shallan's insufferable now? If you make it to book 4, God help you.

[Anonymous No.16921725]

>>16921636
Good thing Dalinar's plotline is always the opposite of Shallan's in term of quality. And by book 3 there's Adolin too.

[Anonymous No.16921796]

>>16921725
Fair, though Dalinar in book 4 just doesn't get enough screen time. But his flashback arc in book 3 is one of the best things Sanderson has written.

[Anonymous No.16921985]

>>16920387
Yes and no. You don't learn about that until the Words of radiance.

[Anonymous No.16921992]

>>16920370
Wrong thread, pal. this one's just a bait for sanderfags, /sffg/ is over here >>16914422

[Anonymous No.16922047]

>>16921422
Yeah, imagine. Wonder what books do that.

[Anonymous No.16922183]

>>16919122
Hard filtered brainlet, you won't be missed.

[Anonymous No.16922196]

>>16919941
>not paying attention to the epigraphs
I forget sometimes you can be bad at reading.

[Anonymous No.16922240]

>>16913548
just started reading the way of kings it’s pretty good i enjoy it so far

[Anonymous No.16922559]

>>16913610
I don't think it gets anymore reddit than the blazer/graphic tee combo

[Anonymous No.16922630]

>>16922559
He's missing the beard and onions grimace

[Anonymous No.16922710]

>>16920370
Got bored after two books, the Ryira Chronicles are pretty good though.

[Anonymous No.16922772]

/v/ is talking about Sanderson

[Anonymous No.16922808]

>>16920370
it's trash

[Anonymous No.16922812]

>OH BOY, I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE 10000000000000 MORE PAGES OF SHALLAN'S GOOFY MENTAL ILLNESS, I WONDER WHO KID SHALLAN IS GOING TO MURDER NEXT, MAYBE SHE WENT BACK IN TIME AND KILLED HONOR HERSELF.
>>16919122
>The Bridge 4 arc in The Way of Kings legitimately got me invested,
me too. they where vital characters in kaladin's side of the story and now they're not. they're background characters and slight cameos in other characters stories and the Mormon seems to want kaladin to move away from them. I'm afraid all the their development has grounded to a halt and now sanderson is just going to whip them out when he needs a fodder to kill off in a flashy way. what might get a rock novella somewhere down the line maybe.

>MAH COSMERE PLOT BEATS

I don't give a shit about the bigger cosmere if all the characters filling it are paper cutouts. Whose opportunity for character growth and interactions with other characters are fucking squandered because he has to get to the next thing that leads to the other thing needs to be introduced because you have plans for it 10 books from now. Fucking adolin should not be as ignored as he is, his story with his sword should not feel so fucking rushed and shitty, He was supposed to make me like the Parshendi and Venli in this book, but he was to focused on the fucking magitek for his future cosmere plans to remember to make them not fucking suck. I hate you so much you bespectacled mormon shit, I fucking hate you.


Anyway, whose excited for book 5 "the entire book takes place in the span of a week look how fucking rushed everything is holey shit". I believe that's the working title.

[Anonymous No.16922815]

>>16921636
I had to drop the series by mid point of book 3, who the fuck can read this drivel. Its such a shame because way of kings was legitimately very good despite the shallan chapters.

[Anonymous No.16922825]

>>16922815
Let me guess, you dropped it when they went to Shadesmar

[Anonymous No.16922857]

>>16922825
what else would be so bad that you'd drop a series for it. Apparently the power creep anime bullshit gets totally out of hand (and it was bad already) so i don't feel bad at all for dropping it. What a load of horse shit this whole series is turning out to be.

[Anonymous No.16922919]

>>16922857
He Shadesmars again in Rhythm but this time it's in the Tower

>>16922857
>Apparently the power creep anime bullshit gets totally out of hand
There's even a guy whos power is literally to teleports behind you nothing personal kid

I'd still argue that fighting Szeth at the front of the storm was the most anime it's gotten, though

[Anonymous No.16922932]

is this worth reading?
liked:
>GoT
>LOTR
>riftwar
>book of the new sun
>Black Company
Disliked:
>Malazan
>anything by that FAGGOT MORMON Sanderson
>wheel of time
>coldfire trilogy

[Anonymous No.16922980]

>>16922919
Fuck me, that teleporting guy was annoying. Talk about Saturday morning cartoon villains.

[Anonymous No.16923014]

>>16922980
>not liking naked crabnightcrawler

fag.

[Anonymous No.16923040]

>>16923014
Cool concept, got old fast. I'm sensing a Pattern.

[Anonymous No.16923046]

>>16921373
shallan is the worst thing about the stormlight archives
not the length
not the general asspull nature of the author
not the poor character writing when the author needs them to fail or succeed for whatever plot contrivance is being served in this particular chapter
all of it is far less irritating than shallan

also book 4 is a flashback to eshonai, a character that fucking dies in book 2 and was never relevant in any way and her equally irrelevant sister. at least you can just safely skip all of the flashback chapters without missing anything of value.
and of course, as always, when a chapter starts with:
>veil-
>shallan-
skip through it, looking for other characters dialogues so you don't miss out on whatever the event itself is. jesus christ, she's so fucking bad, and somehow gets a thousand times worse in book 4.

shame, book 1 (present-day kaladin and dalinar stuff) was quite good, and words of radiance had some redeeming moments, and i absolutely 100% skipped every shallan flashback because there are better things to do with the limited time you have on earth than suffer through that bullshit.

[Anonymous No.16923052]

Btw, everyone go read The Acts of Caine series. It's amazing and nothing like Brandon Mormonson

[Anonymous No.16923053]

>>16922772
we were til the thread got nuked for some reason, frustrating. probably a retarded mod.

[Anonymous No.16923067]

>>16922919
>I'd still argue that fighting Szeth at the front of the storm was the most anime it's gotten, though
that was actually good though, as it was a climactic battle at the end of a book between the main character and the, up to this point, main antagonist, and they both did things only they can do in an evocative setting.

obviously you can't do that shit all throughout the book, but for a finale it's fine, it didn't feel overly anime to me. shallan's illusory theatre bullshit was pretty dumb though, and szeth's training thing with the poles & powder bags felt like a little much.

[Anonymous No.16923090]

>>16919122
>Speaking of mental illness, if a trans person becomes a radiant, it now canonically transitions them by magic. Wonderful.
>>>/pol/
>At least tumblr is pissed off that Jasnah is now confirmed not to be a lesbo.
Not so fast there, she's still very clearly asexual.

[Anonymous No.16923094]

>>16922932
>>16921992

[Anonymous No.16923101]

>>16923090
But she let herself be pressured into a relationship anyway so...

[Anonymous No.16923106]

>>16923040
Mmmmmmm

[Anonymous No.16923117]

>>16923090
>she's still very clearly asexual.
It sounded like she and Hoid were fucking, though. I seem to recall clear indication of physicality to their relationship. Could be wrong, though

[Anonymous No.16923145]

>>16921636
Shallans storyarc would have been bitter if it weren't filled with her going just woe-is-me 24/7, it got tiring after a while.

[Anonymous No.16923170]

>>16923101
She wasn't, she's a ~sapiosexual~ she likes Wits intelligence and the fact that he's basically old fuck. Iirc it's implied that they do fuck but it's not something that excites her or is a focus of her relationship

[Anonymous No.16923186]

>>16923170
Mhm. That's totally a real thing, anon. Whatever you say.

[Anonymous No.16923197]

>>16923145
Shallan and Kaladin both seem to have calmed down after Rhythm at least. I can't imagine that she has YET ANOTHER DARK SECRET IN HER PAST

I'm wondering exactly why she wanted to lock up that last memory, though. I feel like we're missing context for why that one broke her so badly.

[Anonymous No.16923202]

>>16923186
nigga im talking about whats implied in the books not my own opinion retard

[Anonymous No.16923206]

>>16923186
>this thing isn't real because it doesn't align with my narrow-minded view of the world

[Anonymous No.16923220]

>>16923101
She wasn't pressured into it. Hoid just seduced her with knowledge.
Also Brandon needed desperately to stop the rumors that Jasnah was gay.
>>16923117
They do fuck but Jasnah is vey clear in saying she doesn't give a fuck about it. Being asexual doesn't mean you don't ever have sex, it just means you care nothing for it.

[Anonymous No.16923221]

>>16923197
Kaladin was more bearable to say the least, Shallan was just a slog. I understand vail and radiant were her way of fighting back but at the same time it felt so one dimensional and shallan just a twat.

well she killed her own spren that pretty much is a big no no and would fuck up anyone in the setting i think

[Anonymous No.16923228]

>>16923202
Oh sure, that's what she tells herself in her internal monologue. Many people believe that about themselves.

[Anonymous No.16923230]

>>16918980
It's honestly a mystery to me. The first few hundred pages even combine every rusty fantasy cliche you'd blame a novice, teenage, fantasy aspiring writer for. And yet editors drooled over the thing in every country, and ending up being right about it. It was an immense success. It makes me kind of sad for the genre. If this is what people want, then there's little hope it will grow any time soon.

[Anonymous No.16923237]

>>16923228
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? she's a fantasy character written up by a mormon who wears onesies to bed why are you being obtuse about the weirdest shit

[Anonymous No.16923239]

>>16923221
>[Spoiler]
But consider what the world was like when she did it and locked the memory away. Yeah if she did it NOW it would be different

[Anonymous No.16923249]

>>16923230
I met a guy who had reread at least 20 times and was proud of it. this was in hs tho so cant be too harsh on him

[Anonymous No.16923258]

>>16923237
Hey, sorry for trying to look at her as though she's a realistic, multilayered character instead of a feminist archetype written by a bluepilled mormon. You're right.

[Anonymous No.16923259]

>>16923239
I think she did remember, or at least her subconscious did plenty of times she mentioned how she was afraid no one would love her after they found out what she did, she knew to a degree but would pretend not to know for her own sanity or lie to herself everytime she would think or remember the details she would devolve and start freaking out

[Anonymous No.16923270]

I'm someone with Dissociative Identity Disorder.
I actually grew to like shallan during the final parts of Oathbringer and the beggining of Rythm of War; while her way of fragmenting into new alters is a bit on the nose and too obvious, how she struggled with it felt very much real.

Then part 4 happened and it was "Lol here's a new evil personality- NO WAIT it was just shallan being retarded- AND LOOK, SHE'S HEALING! and Veil - the most enjoyable aspect of Shallan - fucking dies.
All in the span of like 3 or 4 POVs

Needless to say, Shallan has now become a fucking joke of a character for me. Brandon was going so well, but it was obvious he was struggling when balancing the three personalities so he got rid of one in the most underwhelming and obvious way possible.

I'd be far more angry if it wasn't 'lol fantasy identity disorder'.

[Anonymous No.16923278]

>>16923249
I just don't get it. I read fantasy because sometimes I like lighter material and as a teenager it's what made me fall in love with reading, and Rothfuss' stuff isnt the worse you can find out there, but I just can't fathom how and why it had such immense success. It has nothing really special, it uses tired tropes other writers of the genre would be blamed for, it's overstreched and predictable, etc... Just, why?

[Anonymous No.16923281]

>>16923258
>imagine trying to look deeper into a 1 dimensional character YA fantasy novel written by a mormon which deals with topics and issues at a superficial level

that's your own fault retard

[Anonymous No.16923291]

>>16923278
I actually enjoyed it at the start, the mystery of the chandran or w/e was interesting, the setting and details/world building weren't too bad but in all the character is just a fantasy self insert for horny nerds with a self esteem deficiency. If you want something to tilt over go read the second book, its even worse

[Anonymous No.16923295]

>>16923278
Fairly pretty prose for people who are used to bare bones descriptions, but who can't handle Tolkien. At least that's my guess.

[Anonymous No.16923305]

>>16923291
Yeah as I said it's certainly not the worse, and I enjoyed some parts of it, to a point, but I really cant see what sets it apart from the legions of cliches fantasy books published every year.
I'll pass on the second book, thanks, hehe.

[Anonymous No.16923309]

>>16923295
His prose is actually pretty decent, he just sucks at actually writing decent plotlines, characters and stories

[Anonymous No.16923312]

>>16923295
Maybe, yeah. I read it in french and it seemed pretty bland to me, but maybe the original version in english is better.

[Anonymous No.16923572]

>>16913548
you shouldn't be reading fiction, /lit/

[Anonymous No.16923603]

>>16923572
Why would I read anything but fiction?
I can experience real life every day. I don't give a shit if some dude bought milk 1000 years ago.

[Anonymous No.16923831]

>>16913548
>brilliant
He's prolific because he's shit. Jesus Christ, I forced myself to read the first Mistborn book because everyone called it amazing and it was like forcing yourself to eat ten liters of pig slop after you're already full.

700 pages of monotone, insipid, bloated writing that makes you hate your life. Zero rhythm. A cliched main character. Cliched dialogue. Repetitive scenes. All for a """plot twist""" that wasn't worth anything.

Brandon Sanderson is shit, and anyone who likes him is retarded.

[Anonymous No.16923955]

>>16923603
you are one of the reason humanity is in its current state.

[Anonymous No.16924161]

>>16923955
Moving forward faster than ever?
Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.16924173]

>>16923197
>I can't imagine that she has YET ANOTHER DARK SECRET IN HER PAST
"Shallan" is actually a ghostblood sleeper agent that replaced the real (dead) Shallan Davar as a young child and was made to bond her first spren for soulcasting power. That's why her "mother" tried to kill her when she discovered what her husband had agreed to do to join the ghostbloods himself, and the trauma fragmented "Shallan"'s memory beyond repair without the aiding framework of her oaths.

[Anonymous No.16924186]

>>16923831
Nobody cares fag, blog somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.16924193]

>>16924173
How the fuck do you have a child sleeper agent?

[Anonymous No.16924268]

>>16924173
This'd be pretty kek, but no, assuming the stuff with Veil at the end was another Ideal for her, she's already at 5th.

[Anonymous No.16924294]

>>16924268
>immortal words
>dead mother
>dead father
>dead spren
That's still only 4, and it's been commented on in the books that lightweaver oaths are different from other orders.

[Anonymous No.16924304]

>>16924193
She easily could've been taken in as an orphan, bonded her first spren, and taught the rudiments of espionage at a young age. It explains why Veil seemed so confident of her clandestine work despite her past being "fake".

[Anonymous No.16924459]

>>16924294
>immortal words
>???
Some theorize it's when she admits she's scared during the first book.
>dead father
During Words of Radiance Shallan already has the Patternblade, which means this was her third ideal.
>dead mother
Intent is important for investiture, and Shallan is still too scared of many of her truths. With this one she got her Armour, but she's too scared of being a warrior to even realize it. At the end of Oathbringer, Radiant wears a kind of armor Shallan has no way of actually knowing, since she's never seen it, so yes, that was her fourth ideal and she's got her shardplate
>dead spren
Whether this was or not an ideal is still unclear. Most of us think it due to how Veil fucking died after admitting it, but we're still not sure.

[Anonymous No.16924465]

>>16924294
>>16924459
Also:
>lightweaver oaths are different from other orders.
This is because Lightweaver oaths don't really follow any kind of ruleset other than admitting hard truths about yourself. All other orders have some ruling ideal or theme - Protection for Windrunners, Law and Order for Skybreakers, taking care of the little guys for the Edgedancers - while the Lightweavers are more of a "haha you've got some deep trauma and hate yourself enough to live a lie."

[Anonymous No.16924614]

>>16924465
So it's both entirely possible they don't operate on a hard 5 Oath set, and something about Shallan being far enough in her oaths previously to kill her mother with a blade augmented what she was capable of when Pattern forged her second bond.

[Anonymous No.16925428]

>>16924614
Possible, but I say unlikely. It'd be a complication to the system and a break of the standard rules that wouldn't make a lot of sense.

[Anonymous No.16926059]

>>16913548
>read all of Stormlight
>another 3-4 years until book 4.5 and book 5
how are the Mistborn books?

[Anonymous No.16926094]

>>16926059
Era 1 is massively overhyped by normies, books 2 and 3 are a fucking chore to get through
Era 2 is kino as fuck and don't let anyone tell you otherwise

[Anonymous No.16926145]

Can you enjoy and understand this series if you skip every chapter that isn't Dalinar? Asking for a friend.

[Anonymous No.16926150]

>>16926094
do I need to read era 1?

[Anonymous No.16926202]

>>16926150
Unfortunately yes, there's a fuckton of connections and context that you'll miss otherwise

[Anonymous No.16926217]

>>16926145
Ehh. You do probably need Kaladin too. You can totally skip Shallan, though.

[Anonymous No.16926249]

>>16926094
This.

It's really telling that Sanderson has mentioned in interviews that Kelsier would be a villain in any of his other stories, but he's the character that really elevates Book 1 of era 1.

In era 2, Shadows of Self is a the best book, and it's a bit hard not to root for the antagonist.

[Anonymous No.16926363]

>>16924161
no, going to turn into a dystopian communist shithole. Go back to your fiction novel, netflix and anime, anon.

[Anonymous No.16926501]

>>16919122
>At least tumblr is pissed off that Jasnah is now confirmed not to be a lesbo.
Did people expect a prominent lesbian character in a Mormon work?

[Anonymous No.16926514]

>>16926363
lmao

[Anonymous No.16926536]

>>16913548
He tried so hard to break The Wheel of Time but Jordan's outline was too strong for him.

[Anonymous No.16926594]

>>16913548
Some threads ago I asked if anyone knew if there were scans for all issues of Weird Tales (pulp magazine that published Lovecraft, Robert E. Howard, etc.) available online. Yes they are all available, it's just somewhat tricky to find them all because archive.org search is atrocious.

Some guy put together a helpful spreadsheet with links to all issues: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GNCfBzO4NcbvjE8XsNlpAjYPpA5rf25PulI7RpVBkhU/edit#gid=0

Definitely check it out it!

[Anonymous No.16926596]

>>16913548
I've started Warbreaker, Steelheart, & Skyward but never finish any of his stuff for some reason. Maybe I can just feel the Mormon in it and know nothing really shocking or interesting will ever really happen. I'm sure reddit loves this stuff though. His writing lectures are pretty great and useful.

[Anonymous No.16926610]

>>16926150
>>16926202
He really doesn't need to read era 1 if he has no other interest in the series any more than people who like stormlight need to read Warbreaker if they don't enjoy cosmere shit.

[Anonymous No.16926659]

>>16926594
Original printing of Call of Cthulu.

[Anonymous No.16926664]

>>16926594
>>16926659
Robert E. Howard.

[Anonymous No.16926676]

>>16926594
And yeah the ads from back then are pretty interesting too.

[Anonymous No.16926850]

>/sfg/
You absolute cunts.

[Anonymous No.16927489]

>>16926594
>>16926659
>>16926664
>>16926676
>>16926850

>>>16921992

[Anonymous No.16927837]

>Book 5 of SA will end with Dalinar and probably the Stormfathef forced by oaths to serve Odium, leading to Era 2 of Mistborn shenanigans

This is going to be great.

[Anonymous No.16927898]

>>16927837
if dalinar loses the duel, he dies, therefore also severing his connection to the stormfather - unless he ascends to Honor when he dies, and still tied to his Oath, is forced to serve odium as a god (Though I find this unlikely).
In any case, I find that hard to believe. It's pretty much confirmed the god attacking Scadrial is Autonomy, not Odium.

[Anonymous No.16927991]

>>16927898
I still think it's a god outside of the cosmere trying to manifest
That's why Odium was raving about a bigger battle than the one on Roshar

[Anonymous No.16928001]

>>16927898
If Dalinar loses Odium will turn him into a Cognitive Shadow and make him serve him, he said so himself.

[Anonymous No.16928003]

>>16927991
Nah. Trell is a word originary from Taldain, and the entire night/day focus of the religion + the fact that it gives 'autonomy' to the Kandra are very obvious giveaways.
The bigger battle Odium speaks about is about getting rid of the other shards.

[Anonymous No.16928019]

>>16928001
Yes, but when his physical self dies his bond with the stormfather also severs. He'd become more spren than man.

[Anonymous No.16928056]

>>16928003
That would be a bit weird, Odium never seemed to need help getting rid of shards before. He won several 2vs1 fights, and I don't think Shards feel personally threatened by other armies invading their worlds.

[Anonymous No.16928176]

>>16928056
It's been implied Autonomy and Odium have a sort of understanding. Whatever happens, Odium will be forced to stay in Roshar, which is probably why he'd want Autonomy or an avatar of it to help him in Scadrial.

[Anonymous No.16928612]

>>16920289
Read the original Thrawn novels

[Anonymous No.16928680]

>>16923052
they are good

[Anonymous No.16928744]

>>16913610
Unequivocally Sandersonian

[Anonymous No.16929826]

>>16914150
Except Lirin isn't sheltered at all. He's been as exposed to the harsher aspects of life as most everyone else. It's also hard to call him naive when he's one of the most accomplished surgeons in the series.

His belief system is one that he didn't adhere to as strongly in the past. He didn't start preaching so strongly about it until he lost both his sons as the price of his hubris. Trauma like that does strange things to people.

[Anonymous No.16929848]

>>16915870
Kandra

[Anonymous No.16929909]

>>16918509
>Shallan
>Mary Sue
Except she's explicitly a bad person who pays for her mistakes constantly. If you're talking about Jasnah I'll give you a little bit on that, but Jasnah ends up being kind of pathetic anyway.

>Kaladin
>gary stu
LLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLL STFU RETARD HOLY SHIT
At least read the words as the appear on a page dumb motherfucker.

[Anonymous No.16929995]

>>16919122
Believe it or not, a lot of women identify with Shallan. I take the identity disorder less literally and more spiritually, as many women seem to have trouble keeping up their faces in public.

I called what happened to Rayse in book 2. I'd hardly call that getting Snoked.

Dalinar's segments were disappointing. He was essentially a plot/framing device for the entire book.

As for the characters being demigods, clearly Sanderson is building it up to them "taking over" for the heralds somehow. I hate pointless power creep as it detracts from the weight of the story, but this seems far from pointless.

[Anonymous No.16930007]

>>16913828
Currently reading the first book it's like a fucking marvel movie

[Anonymous No.16930064]

>>16920370
I'm so tired of fantasy settings where the biggest reveal is that one of the characters literally just invents things from the modern age. Stormlight is just on this side of tasteful but very often it's "Muh crop rotations/gundpowder/literacy". Computation is at least something we're still exploring with a mysticism all it's own, so I'll give Sanderson that.

[Anonymous No.16930092]

>>16923046
Goddamn you are a terrible reader. Truly abysmal. I'm finding it difficult which of your nonsensical criticisms to dispute first.

[Anonymous No.16930116]

>>16930064
I think it's a law to have crop rotations in a certain percentage of books.

Stormlight's biggest two seems to be macro-scale quantum entanglement and antimatter.

[Anonymous No.16930124]

>>16930007
>reading a marvel movie
You try so hard to be contrarian you don't even listen to how dumb you sound.

[Anonymous No.16930135]

>>16930116
I also think he's trying to link the observer effect into upper-case Intent somehow.

[Anonymous No.16930156]

>>16921373
I have never understood why anyone complains about Shallan's "wit". I have read the series twice now and I don't understand where the vitriol comes from.

Nobody in the series actually thinks she's that funny except her brothers. Nobody. Not a one. Adolin just tolerates her for the most part. She can't even stand herself for fucks sake. The only times anyone speaks up about her jokes is to complain that she's being kind of a dumb bitch. People complain about Jasnah, sure, because everyone in-universe fawns over her. Nobody "fawns" over Shallan's jokes.

Honestly, it just seems like some sort of weird projection.

[Anonymous No.16930168]

>>16930156
Yeah I think she's meant to be insufferable on purpose but that's because I always enjoy Hoid being a crazy asshole so I have something to compare it to

[Anonymous No.16930192]

>>16929995
>Sanderson is building it up to them "taking over" for the heralds somehow

CHILD OF TANAVAST. What are the chances kal gets fed to the Oathpact in order to buy Navani enough time to build up a giant last exile style sky fleet?

[Anonymous No.16930193]

>>16922812
Why was he supposed to make you like Venli? Why would anyone ever like Venli? She's by far the worst person in the whole series, even more than Moash or the heralds. She got her entire civilization destroyed, let alone her family murdered, simply because she's self-absorbed.

Explain to me how he was supposed to make you like her when he has so clearly written her to be unlikable.

[Anonymous No.16930210]

dont mind me, just posting in epic containment thread

[Anonymous No.16930230]

>>16923145
Allow me to introduce you to almost-every-single-woman-in-history.

[Anonymous No.16930280]

>>16924459
That shit sounds dumb as fuck.

1. The blade she has wasn't a Patternblade, it's her dead spren blade you dumb fuck it takes 10 heartbeats BECAUSE IT'S DEAD.
2. Yes, I'm sure the greatest sketch artist in the entire world with photographic memory who spent part of the previous book explicitly sketching shard plate/blades would have NO IDEA WHATSOEVER how to create an illusion of shardplate on a fake persona. She must have the armor without realizing it you dumb piece of shit.
3. You're a fucking moron.

[Anonymous No.16930287]

>>16930193
Not him, and while I agree with you she's written to be a selfish dick, she also comes a long way towards doing the right thing for the sake of it and not just because it serves her. I'd concede she's still not likable overall, but I like her more than the one dimensional Eshonai foil she's been up to now.

[Anonymous No.16930294]

>>16930210
>and there's still sanderfriends posting in /sffg/
What did the screeching autist who made this thread mean by this?

[Anonymous No.16930310]

>>16930280
>The blade she has wasn't a Patternblade
Except it was since we discovered that all cryptics call themselves Pattern unless otherwise prompted :^)
What still gets me though is the seeming unremarked shift from book 1 where she's always thinking about a blade 10 heartbeats away, and by the time she meets up with Tyn in book 2 she can already summon a radiant blade again.

[Anonymous No.16930409]

>>16926610
Warbreaker is the best cosmere book though.

[Anonymous No.16930447]

>>16930192
Since Urithiru is a seedship straight out of Trigun, my money is on 100%.

[Anonymous No.16930491]

>>16930280
1) the blade she uses during words of radiance appears before 10 seconds (to kill Tyn). It glows and shifts sizes (When Shallan and Kal are down in the chasms). More importantly, it can activate the oathgate. It's a living blade. It's pattern.
2) That's an argument against it. She cannot create something she hasn't drawn. The armor she created is unlike any she has seen before. Not only in color, but also in the way it glows like a true Radiant plate, which she hasn't ever seen before that we know of.
3) I may be a moron, but I'm clearly deeper into cosmerefagging than you.

[Anonymous No.16930512]

>>16930409
That's a weird way to spell Emperor's Soul

[Anonymous No.16930513]

>>16930287
I forget which chapters they are, but when her spren is trying to persuade her to take the smallest, teensiest steps towards not being a stupid, self-serving prick and she FIGHTS against it time and time again I just want to strangle her. I get it, this is an exploration of the different types of responses to trauma and progression. I honestly just think the world would be a better place if everyone like Venli were dead.

[Anonymous No.16930520]

>>16930310
You are technically correct, the best kind of correct.

[Anonymous No.16930539]

>>16930409
How's HRT treating you?

[Anonymous No.16930570]

>>16930491
Okay now you're making me get the book out you stupid fuck just you wait.

[Anonymous No.16930590]

>>16930539
Vivenna is the best cosmere main character. This thing is, I think.

[Anonymous No.16930857]

>>16930491
>Calm, Shallan told herself. Be calm!
>Ten heartbeats.
>But for her, it didn't have to be ten, did it?
>No. It must be. Time, I need time!
It took ten heartbeats because she was summoning her dead spren blade to kill Tyn. Everything else was foreshadowing to her secret past.

As far as the living blade during the chasm sequence, I can only surmise that her dead spren blade is reacting to her. I can't say that makes perfect sense but we don't know the whole story behind how that shit works anyway. Adolin is able to get his blade to do all sorts of fancy shit and it's not even his spren. Certainly makes more sense than all the theories that got BTFO now that we know her mom gave her TWO bonds.

Also, she has done lightweaving for a ton of shit she doesn't necessarily draw and is able to alter even shitty drawings/imaginings. To say she didn't draw that exact version of shardplate so it must be hers is stupid.

[Anonymous No.16930975]

>>16930294
This is the best part. I'm in both threads posting about Sanderson

>>16930512
I need to go through that again.

>>16930590
Is this because I didn't read Warbreaker or did you just mix Inkspren and Sazydspeak?

>>16930857
The Stormfather at one point says that if the Radiants who killed their spren were still alive something could maybe be done about the Deadeyes

[Anonymous No.16931480]

>>16930447
techno bagpipes and chainsaw airships here we come.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j14nx50tzsQ

[Anonymous No.16931924]

>>16930857
>It took ten heartbeats because she was summoning her dead spren blade to kill Tyn.
If she killed Tyn with a dead blade, it would have screamed at her due to Pattern's bond, just like Kaladin and Renarin. Kaladin even comments on how the glow of the Patternblade in the chasm is so slight he's not sure he could've noticed it in the light.

[Anonymous No.16932724]

>>16930857
>It took ten heartbeats because she was summoning her dead spren blade to kill Tyn
No, dumb fuck. It took ten heartbeats because she percieved she needed it (And in the end it wasn't truly 10 heartbeats anyways). Same reason Szeth used 10 heartbeats to summon the Honorblade when those also appear instantaneously.
>I can only surmise that her dead spren blade is reacting to her
No. Maya in a moment of need got to help Adolin, but a Deadeye cannot change shapes and even less activate teh oathgates.
>she has done lightweaving for a ton of shit she doesn't necessarily draw
When this is the case, it's always something she knows. When she doesn't know it, she needs to draw it. And she at the very least needs to visualize it. The armor she puts on Radiant is completely original, even assuming you were right, it wouldn't explain how she would know exactly how a Radiant plate glowed (at the joints).

[Anonymous No.16932821]

>>16932724
>Same reason Szeth used 10 heartbeats to summon the Honorblade
I'm curious to know if this is a function or a failure of Intent, because I'm not sure anyone other than Szeth has commented on the intended function of the honorblades, and Vyre even comments on how he can't get it to respawn faster like Adolin did.

[Anonymous No.16933109]

Finally read the Emperor's Soul, it was pretty alright, but holy hell Forgery is OP bullshit.

[Anonymous No.16933223]

>>16922932
Imagine disliking wheel of time. What a fag.

[Anonymous No.16933246]

>>16933223
>Imagine disliking reading Who Will Rand Fucks: the serie for 10 000 000 pages

Tug yourself

[Anonymous No.16933318]

>>16933246
Tug, liking tuging my duck? Nah I got my gf for that. Seems that you have a problem with Rand being a total Chad, probably because you failed your suicide attempts and live a sad life. If you were going to criticize the series, you could have brought up Perrins boring plot line through the later half of the books.

[Anonymous No.16933408]

>>16932821
It's both. Intent is elemental to most of the magic systems. It's a function that sometimes becomes a problem in cases where someone understands just enough for their intent to have an effect, but also for that effect to be affected by the lack of understanding.

[Anonymous No.16933423]

>>16933109
>holy hell Forgery is OP bullshit.
Most of Sel's magic systems are pretty broken, AonDor being easily the strongest magic in the cosmere. However, due to the unique properties of the investiture of the planet, it becomes completely useless outside of it, unlike all other magics so far.

[Anonymous No.16935173]

>>16919122
>Speaking of mental illness, if a trans person becomes a radiant, it now canonically transitions them by magic. Wonderful.
Wait are you serious? I remember reading the first two books in HS. The Bridge 4 arc, Dalinar BTFOing Elhokar and Kaladin vs Szeth were all awesome. Had a gut feeling Brandon was a huge pussy but never thought he'd be this cringe.

[Anonymous No.16935183]

>>16921373
All fantasy authors are simps.

[Anonymous No.16935231]

>>16935173
Yup, it's in there.

[Anonymous No.16935236]

>>16923831
Mistborn sucks ass. If you want to read one Sanderson book, read Steelheart or Way of Kings.

[Anonymous No.16935290]

>>16914424
Everyone says Kaladin is insane/depressed but I always found him normal.

[Anonymous No.16935350]

>>16935231
Wow. Disappointing. Imagine putting degenerate political garbage in your art that's clearly a fad no one likes in your art. Gay.

[Anonymous No.16935583]

>>16935290
He's pretty depressed, it shows up a lot in this book.

[Anonymous No.16936099]

>>16935290
That boy ain't right, man

[Anonymous No.16936860]

God, I hate Shallan, what an absolute fucking cunt
>How DARE you confront me about the murder of your friend I've done as a child ! Don't you know how bad it makes me feel?

FUCK YOU

[Anonymous No.16936960]

>>16913828
Mistborn is about smuggling a psychopath (Kelsier) into the cosmere and painting him a good guy

[Anonymous No.16937161]

>>16935290
The levels of "mental disorders" are highly exaggerated for this shit. Really just shows how little character focused stories your average sanderson fanboy has ever digested.

[Anonymous No.16938020]

>>16921373
>Kaladin is good unless it's a flashback chapter
huh? His father blinding the robbers with the light of the orbs was pure kino
Also who is Jasnah again i stopped reading midway through book 3

[Anonymous No.16938042]

>>16938020
wait she was the milf right that dalinar wanted to fuck?

[Anonymous No.16938143]

>>16938042
>>16938020
Jasnah is the smarter-than-you sociopath who acknowledges she needs to stop acting that way before continuing to act that way

Navani is her mother that Dalinar fucks

[Anonymous No.16938678]

>>16938020
>Also who is Jasnah again i stopped reading midway through book 3
The asexual intellectual badass who should have been queen but for male preference monarchies.

[Anonymous No.16939067]

>>16935236
steelheart is fucking terrible, unless you're 14. way of kings is his best book so far by miles.

[Anonymous No.16939172]

>>16936860
i've probably only read about 2/3rds to 3/4ths of these books past way of kings because of this stupid cunt, + eshonai and venli, hard skipped those. NEVER write from the perspective of the enemy, literally ever, it only ruins your books. i wish authors just inherently knew this as a universal truth, it seems like common sense, like how you also don't disempower your heroes for an entire book only to have them deus ex a success up at the end of the book so your readers remember it fondly and rate it highly on goodreads, sandreson seems to fail at that as well.

[Anonymous No.16939184]

>>16939172
>almost as though the singers aren't really the enemy at all

[Anonymous No.16939195]

>>16939184
yeah that just makes it worse. unless the entire driving point behind your 10 book 4 decade novel series is the duality of man, you need an actual antagonist that remains an antagonist in order for the story to have a continuity of purpose. if both sides are arguably good or bad there's no reason to read the damn book.

[Anonymous No.16939201]

>>16939172
How is "ability he's been on the cusp of since the end of the last book" deus ex machina? Do you even know what that term means?

[Anonymous No.16939323]

>Whimsy

[Anonymous No.16939413]

>>16939195
There is an overall antagonist, it's just not clear who, and definitely not anyone with a PoV in the story so far so I don't see the issue.

[Anonymous No.16939440]

>>16939413
you need to HAVE one. if the antagonist doesn't exist and everyone's just kind of being a shit for a variety of different reasons you just have a clusterfuck, not a story.

[Anonymous No.16939643]

>>16939440
Odium is AN antagonist. Is he THE antagonist? Not according to him, but that's exactly the sort of thing the antagonist would say. What is the disconnect for you?

[Anonymous No.16939667]

I feel like nothing fucking happened in this book besides setup. Really hate that Shallan is an absolute retard again, haven't wanted to skip her chapters this hard since the first book. Really cool that Teft died like an absolute (and literal) shitter. Really says something when the most entertaining bits was waiting for Mayalaran to interact with Adolin.

[Anonymous No.16939707]

>>16926596
give soul of the emperor a try, it is set in the same world as elantris and is hands down the best thing sanderson has written to date

[Anonymous No.16939942]

>>16939667
>I feel like nothing fucking happened in this book besides setup


Have fun, that's what book 5 is going to be.

Set up for the next 5 book and those 5 books are all going to to feel like set up for other cosmere shit he has plans for when he's 70.

[Anonymous No.16941270]

>>16935173
>>16935350
Oh, is the conservative gonna cry? Is society moving forward scary? Boohoo, how sad. Alexa, play despacito

[Anonymous No.16941273]

>>16939440
>Didn't read X POV missing absurdly important plot beats.
>Tries to argue about it anyways
Are you stupid?

[Anonymous No.16941282]

>>16939667
Shallan truly was the worst.
>>16939942
Nah, book 5 will close what is apparently the 'Vs Odium' part of the saga. It'll be a narrative end to this half, which is why this book needed to close so much so fast and. I do expect book 5 to be packed full of even more rushed shit, though.

[Anonymous No.16941658]

>Sanderson made Moash kills Teft because Moash mostly just killed Elhokar and Roshone, two lighteyes bitches who nobody liked and he was afraid people would still support him

Well it worked, fuck Moash

[Anonymous No.16941703]

>>16941658
I would accept Moash redemption and I don't care what everyone else says.

[Anonymous No.16941736]

>>16941658
Actually, I didn't care as much about Teft as I did about the random radiant he sliced.
For Roshone and Elhokar he was 100% justified. For Teft, well, they have conflicting interests and are battling, it's war after all.
But that random sleeping radiant? That was completely and utterly unjustifiable. He wasn't even under orders, like when he killed Jezrien.

[Anonymous No.16941768]

>>16941703
>Book 5 Moash has the best arc
>Truly earn his redemptions
>Shallan kills him

[Anonymous No.16941918]

>>16931924
>>16932724
Literally every other person alive (by book 2) is using a dead blade that isn't their own spren. Shallan is an exception to the rule. Why is that hard to understand?

[Anonymous No.16942196]

>>16941918
The testament-blade doesn't work differently than any other deadeyes. Her Nahel Bond with Shallan was severed, therefore, it would work as any other deadblade. It's debatable whether Shallan even has access to that blade or not: She never actually summons it, she only /thinks/ she can do it.