L. Ron Hubbard

[Anonymous No.16872382]

Redpill me on this author. The Left has attempted to assassinate his ideas for fifteen years. Not a Scientologist, but what did he knock against?

[Anonymous No.16872404]

>>16872382
He was the king of milking pseuds

[Anonymous No.16872482]

>>16872382
The most primal expression of the American mindset is the cult, and Hubbard is second only to Smith in this regard.

[Anonymous No.16872584]

It’s interesting how well his Dianetics adapts to new cult contexts. Besides Scientology, the Nation of Islam officially endorses the book and certain cells of the Black Hebrew Israelites also incorporate it in their private devotion. It’s anti-psychiatry message resonates with a lot of disenfranchised first worlders.

[Anonymous No.16872615]

>>16872482
This. He is the most (yes, numerically) prolific creator of infantile fantasy this shit-brained disease of a species has ever produced, and also so happens to be the founder of a religion dedicated to making money and milking gullible pseuds to support his asbestos and rape-fueled maritime degeneracy. I'm thinking based beyond comprehension. This Burger blob was too much for the esoteric charlatan Aleister Crowley.

[Anonymous No.16872621]

>>16872382
I think he was involved with the Crowleyans. A lot of them started their own cults and religions.

[Anonymous No.16872629]

He made a cult around his badly-written science fiction.

[Anonymous No.16872641]

>>16872615
Why does the Left vilify him? Was his cult a threat to J*wish hegemony in the entertainment industry?

[Anonymous No.16872660]

>>16872382
>>16872641
The Left doesn't specifically vilify him. It's just a buzzword. The fact of the matter is that the majority of educated people vilify him because he's a con artist.

[Anonymous No.16872752]

>>16872660
>because he's a con artist
Is he? He seems to have helped a lot of people. That's how he amassed a following.

[Anonymous No.16872880]

Since he's been brought up, if Joseph Smith had written the Book of Mormon as fantasy fiction instead of as a religious text, would he have been regarded as one of the greatest authors of the 19th century?

[Anonymous No.16872916]

>>16872880
Not to sound like a tired old soi, but reading the Book of Mormon really sucks. It’s very repetitive and leans embarrassingly heavily on silly KJV tropes (“It came to pass” ad nauseum).

[Anonymous No.16872928]

>>16872880
>The Godhead of the universe used to be a normal man and is now living on alien world
Book of Mormon btfo's Dune as the LOTR of sci-fi

[Anonymous No.16872936]

>>16872916
Thats a Hebrewism.

[Anonymous No.16872963]

>>16872936
>>16872880
>>16872916
Following this, the BoM is most interesting to a reader as one of the latest enduring additions to the Yahwist pseudepigrapha tradition beginning with the Second Temple writings and including the Pastoral Epistles, the Shepherd of Hermas and the Nag Hammadi library.

[Anonymous No.16872971]

>>16872752
I’m tempted to call you a glowie but I don’t think the CIA would promote Scientology

[Anonymous No.16873014]

>>16872916
>reading the Book of Mormon really sucks. It’s very repetitive and leans embarrassingly heavily on silly KJV tropes (“It came to pass” ad nauseum).

Well when I say "as fantasy fiction" I mean him writing it as 19th century novel instead of writing it in the KJV's "old english" or with the context as a religious text at all.

[Anonymous No.16873028]

>>16872382
In some sense he is a dark perversion of the Nietzchean Overman: he had the guile and audacity to legislate his own value system and impose that on reality, he was the founder, not the follower of a religion. Being a pig-ignorant greedy American, however, he did what he was good at and corporatized this religion and turned it into a bizarre postmodern for-profit religious business.

I suppose it isn't much different than the catholic church charging payments for indulgences, saying that they were for charity but using it to have have yourself a feast.

[Anonymous No.16873396]

>>16873028
So is there any merit in reading Dianetics apart from a character study of the author? Is there anything to take to heart?

[Anonymous No.16873455]

>>16872382
Read Battlefield Earth and his Mission Earth series and realize he is the most redpilled author to ever live.
Fuck Globohomo kikes

[Anonymous No.16873464]

>>16873396
His model of the mind is pretty great and maps to Triune Brain Theory really well

[Anonymous No.16873470]

>>16872382
>The Left has attempted to assassinate his ideas for fifteen years
Oh, fuck off already

[Anonymous No.16873501]

I read a little of his sci-fi stuff: it wasn't bad, but it certainly wasn't too good either. Very pulp

[Anonymous No.16873530]

>>16872641
...cults are bad, anon.

[Anonymous No.16873548]

>>16873530
Stop going to therapy and throw away your cuck pills, because Psychotherapy is also a cult.

[Anonymous No.16873785]

>>16872382
>left boogeyman
Scientology hate is one of the few nonpartisan pleasures of the modern age. Literally nobody except scientologists will defend scientology.

[Anonymous No.16873792]

>>16873548
Have fun raving like a lunatic

[Anonymous No.16874235]

>>16873548
It’s possible to be skeptical of psychotherapy without joining a cult.

[Anonymous No.16874346]

>No doubt you are familiar with the Revelations section of the Bible where various events are predicted. Also mentioned Is a brief period of time in which an arch-enemy of Christ. reforred to as the anti-Christ, will reign and his opinions will have sway. All this makes for very fantastic, entertaining reading but there is truth in it. This anti-Christ represents the forces of Lucifer (literally, the "light bearers" or "light bringer"), Lucifer being a mythical representation of the forces of enlightenment, the Galactic Confederacy. My mission could be said to fulfill the Biblical promise represented by this brief anti-Christ period. During this period there is a fleeting opportunity for the whole scenario to be effectively derailed. which would make it impossible for the mass Marcabian landing (Second Coming) to take place. The Second Coming is designed, among other things, to trigger a rapid series of destructive events.
>It is a good joke that the Calactic Confederacy is associated with the Serpent in the Garden, the beast and other emissaries of the "Prince of Darkness". Yet in certain passages and esoteric interpretations of the Bible (much of which has been taken out and effectively suppressed for centuries) as well as the Cabbalah, the truth reveals itself quite nicely for the clever and the ungullible.

You hear many people and ideologies accused of being Satanic nowadays, but Hubbard would appear to be the real deal on that front. And if the accusations from his son of birthing him by a black magic abortion ritual are correct - then yeah, dude was a fucking monster.

[Anonymous No.16874390]

>>16872382
>hating the left to such a degree that you're willing to defend an obvious charlatan who ruined the lives of thousands of people.
embarrassing

[Anonymous No.16874415]

>>16874346
can we get more info on those accusations about his son? i've never heard that before, his son claimed to have been born from a black magic ritual?

[Anonymous No.16874444]

>>16874415
Precisely that. Read the L. Ron Hubbard Jr. Penthouse interview, 1983.

>The rest stem from his own secret life, which was deeply involved in the occult and black-magic. That involvement goes back to when he was sixteen, living in Washington. D.C. He got hold of the book by Alistair Crowley called The Book of Law. He was very interested in several things that were the creation of what some people call the Moon Child. It was basically an attempt to create an immaculate conception --except by Satan rather than by God. Another important idea was the creation of what they call embryo implants --of getting a satanic or demonic spirit to inhabit the body of a fetus. This would come about as a result of black-magic rituals, which included the use of hypnosis, drugs, and other dangerous and destructive practices. One of the important things was to destroy the evidence if you failed at this immaculate conception. That's how my father became obsessed with abortions. I have a memory of this that goes back to when I was six years old. It is certainly a problem for my father and for Scientology that I rememoer this. It was around 1939, 1940, that I watched my father doing something to my mother. She was lying on the bed and he was sitting on her, facing her feet. He had a coat hanger in his hand. There was blood all over the place. I remember my father shouting at me. "Go back to bed!" A little while later a doctor came and took her off to the hospital. She didn't talk about it for quite a number of years. Neither did my father.
>Penthouse: He was trying to perform an abortion?
>Hubbard: According to him and my mother, he tried to do it with me. I was born at six and a half months and weighed two pounds, two ounces. I mean, I wasn't born: this is what came out as a result of their attempt to abort me. It happened during a night of partying --he got involved in trying to do a black-magic number. Also, I've got to complete this by saying that he thought of himself as the Beast 666 incarnate.
>Penthouse: The devil?
>Hubbard: Yes. The Antichrist. Alestair Crowley thought of himself as such. And when Crowley died in 1947, my father then decided that he should wear the cloak of the beast and become the most powerful being in the universe.
>Penthouse: You were sixteen years old at that time. What did you believe in?
>Hubbard: I believed in Satanism. There was no other religion in the house! Scientology and black magic. What a lot of people don't realize is that Scientology is black magic that is just spread out over a long time period. To perform black magic generally takes a few hours or, at most, a few weeks. But in Scientology it's stretched out over a lifetime, and so you don't see it. Black magic is the inner core of Scientology --and it is probably the only part of Scientology that really works. Also, you've got to realize that my father did not worship Satan. He thought he was Satan. He was one with Satan.

[Anonymous No.16874446]

>>16872382
>The Left has attempted to assassinate his ideas
Schizo detected. You'll find that the Conservative movement is no friend to Scientologists.

[Anonymous No.16874473]

>>16874444
Thanks for the info, anon. That's terrifying stuff. I feel like as a society we should do more to combat scientology, but I guess most people don't care since it doesn't directly affect them

[Anonymous No.16874478]

>>16874473
Attempts have been made, but they are good at hiding behind freedom of religion.

[Anonymous No.16874495]

>>16872752
"Helping a lot of people" is stupid and meaningless when you look at the grand scheme of things and not just anecdotal stories. Cancer has helped a lot of people. Millions of doctors, scientists, and businessmen would be worse off if cancer was eradicated. Doesn't mean you're not a retard for wanting to keep it around just because it would make your daddy go out of business.

[Anonymous No.16874498]

>Project Chanology (also called Operation Chanology) was a protest movement against the practices of the Church of Scientology by members of Anonymous, a leaderless Internet-based group. The project was started in response to the Church of Scientology's attempts to remove material from a highly publicized interview with Scientologist Tom Cruise from the Internet in January 2008.

>The project was publicly launched in the form of a video posted to YouTube, "Message to Scientology", on January 21, 2008. The video states that Anonymous views Scientology's actions as Internet censorship, and asserts the group's intent to "expel the church from the Internet". This was followed by distributed denial-of-service attacks (DDoS), and soon after, black faxes, prank calls, and other measures intended to disrupt the Church of Scientology's operations. In February 2008, the focus of the protest shifted to legal methods, including nonviolent protests and an attempt to get the Internal Revenue Service to investigate the Church of Scientology's tax-exempt status in the United States.

>Reactions from the Church of Scientology regarding the protesters' actions have varied. Initially, one spokesperson stated that members of the group "have got some wrong information" about Scientology. Another referred to the group as a group of "computer geeks". Later, the Church of Scientology started referring to Anonymous as "cyberterrorists" perpetrating "religious hate crimes" against the church.

>Detractors of Scientology have also criticized the actions of Project Chanology, asserting that they merely provide the Church of Scientology with the opportunity to "play the religious persecution card". Other critics such as Mark Bunker and Tory Christman initially questioned the legality of Project Chanology's methods, but have since spoken out in support of the project as it shifted towards nonviolent protests and other legal methods.

[Anonymous No.16874531]

>>16872641
take your pills, schizo. he is vilified by everyone.

[Anonymous No.16874552]

>>16872382
For a rough idea of his religion it’s a mixture of regression therapy and a belief in past lives with a very gnostic/occultic approach . If you want to see what he was personally about google his affirmations for some insight into his mind.

Organisationally it began as a self help business but even following its adaption into religion still maintains a lot of its earlier features most prominently the large costs to receive its teachings and followers getting paid commissions to get people to sign up to training.

>The Left has attempted to assassinate his ideas for fifteen years
When you say the left has been trying to assassinate his ideas for the past 15 years can you provide an example of that? There has been a lot of hostility towards Scientology as an organisation but that has been fairly bipartisan from all sides of the political spectrum.

>Not a Scientologist, but what did he knock against?
Essentially everything that wasn’t Scientology or furthering Scientology

Bonus we actually have at least one scientologist on lit so if you keep bumping it he might post - though he wont respond to any post with greentext

[Anonymous No.16874594]

>>16874444
I’m ready to delete my own OP now

[Anonymous No.16874600]

>>16874594
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyFQVZ2h0V8

[Anonymous No.16874602]

>>16874594
im very curious as to what you think "the left" is, many groups on the left and right dislike scientology

[Anonymous No.16874631]

>>16874602
Anything I don’t like is the Left

[Anonymous No.16874671]

>>16874235
And yet I am not in Scientology.
One can read and appreciate fiction without registering with the government as a real live Jedi

[Anonymous No.16874683]

>>16872382
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[Anonymous No.16874684]

>>16872382
>The Left
Whatever boogeyman you can use to sleep at night bro, have fun finding ways to pay the church when you have no plasma left to sell

[Anonymous No.16875075]

>>16872880
>>16872916
Didn't Bloom admired him?

[Anonymous No.16875084]

>>16873548
>Stop going to therapy and throw away your cuck pills, because Psychotherapy is also a cult.
I just started Prozac and I've been better than ever.

[Anonymous No.16875416]

>>16875084
That's what people say after singing Hare Krishna or doing Scientology Auditing, what the fuck does that prove?

[Anonymous No.16875431]

>>16872752
He hasnt helped anyone though.

[Anonymous No.16875441]

>>16872880
Nope.

[Anonymous No.16875471]

>>16872641
>the left does everything bad and evil

Join the cult faggot. The earth doesnt need you.

[Anonymous No.16875539]

>>16875075
yes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqYtl5mmumQ

[Anonymous No.16875836]

>>16875416
>That's what people say after singing Hare Krishna or doing Scientology Auditing, what the fuck does that prove?
Peer reviewed papers prove it, not my experience.

[Anonymous No.16876083]

>>16875836
Replication Crisis, retard, look it up

[Anonymous No.16876225]

>>16874671
>Left this, Jews that

Oh but you are in a cult.

[Anonymous No.16876249]

>>16876225
I'm not that anon.
You don't know shit about his fiction, and you've never read the source materials for Dianetics.

[fed posting connoisseur No.16876287]

>>16872382
I unironicly enjoyed his books.

the mission earth series was really good

[Anonymous No.16876345]

>>16876249
>you've never read the source materials for Dianetics.

True. But you can't reduce Scientology to Alfred Korzybsky or whatever.

[Anonymous No.16876479]

>>16875539
Thank you anon, do you know about the quote where he says that he wasn't born a Jew he would have chosen to be a Mormon because of the literal value?