Turkish Literature?

[Anonymous No.16708029]

Turkey is one of the great European nations but I have very little knowledge of their literary tradition. What are the great works of Turkish lit?

[Anonymous No.16708034]

Fuck T*rk roaches

[Anonymous No.16708040]

>>16708029
‘Ughly booglai fhot gutok’ by Ghubli Kai Mghut

[Anonymous No.16708052]

>>16708040
???

[Anonymous No.16708070]

[Anonymous No.16708085]

>>16708070
Bruh

[Anonymous No.16708096]

>>16708029
Turk here.
What do you want to know?

[Anonymous No.16708100]

>>16708096
Who's your Shakespeare/Cervantes? If someone had to take a crash course of Turkish lit, what texts would be must-reads?

[Anonymous No.16708157]

>>16708100
Turks don't have an equivalent of so central a figure like Shakespeare in Turkish literary system.

It's not individualistic like one guy around which other literary canon is grouped. No central figure.

The closest I can think of is Yunus Emre (not really) but that's the closest you could get.

Very limited drama (almost non existent) and quite young novel tradition. So it lacks such central figures.

[Anonymous No.16708169]

>>16708157
What about
>If someone had to take a crash course of Turkish lit, what texts would be must-reads?

[Anonymous No.16708182]

>>16708029
The Turks, like the Russians, have always lived in the cultural shadow of their neighbours of Europe and Persia. As such any attempt at culture from their part was doomed from the start to be nothing more than an ersatz of the product of a bigger culture mixed with a few idiosyncrasies in order to have some local taste. Russia could break the spell thanks to the USSR when it did produce some truly original artists such as Eisenstein, Tarkovsky or Kalatozov. The artists who came before are mostly trying to be profoundly European and as such are not very interesting (Stravinsky, Tolstoi, Dostosomething). The icons and the churches are the only true Russian art. Unfortunately the Turks didn't even have that because their mosques are uninteresting when they're not reconverted churches. Go to any Turk city and you'll see that these people cannot possibly make good art. Russians only had the influence from Europe, which allowed them to still do some good things while the Turks were (and still are) torn between Europe, the legacy of the Byzantine empire, Persia, India and Ethiopia.

[Anonymous No.16708193]

>>16708029
The Time Regulation Institute

[Anonymous No.16708217]

>>16708100
and about your second question
Book of Dede Korkut for epic heritage

for folk poetry
Yunus Emre (as stated above)

For travel/history (think Herodotus)
Evliya Çelebi

For divan (classic) poetry
I don't have much info on that (cuz it's quite hard to comprehend these texts with cont. turkish language)

for early modern prose
Yakup Kadri, namık Kemal

for republican prose
ahmet hamdi tanpınar, oğuz atay, orhan pamuk, yaşar kemal

for republican poetry
mehmet akif ersoy, nazım hikmet ran, necip fazıl kısakürek, orhan veli, sezai karakoç, cahit külebi,

[Anonymous No.16708228]

>>16708169
>>16708217
I just noticed that I started with books and then continued with names, sorry.

Book of Dede Korkut
Yunus Emre - Divan
Evliya Çelebi - Seyahatname
Vatan Yahut Silistre - Namuk Kemal
Yaban - Yakup Kadri Karaosmanoğlu
Time Regulation Institute - Ahmet Hamdi Tanpınar
The Disconnected - Oğuz Atay
My Name is Red - Orhan Pamuk
Memed, My Hawk - Yaşar Kemal

[Anonymous No.16708231]

>>16708217
and Sait Faik Abasıyanık for republican era short stories.

[Anonymous No.16708236]

>>16708228
>>16708217
Thank you! Right know I'll have to rely on translations, but I am learning Turkish and hopefully someday I'll read them in Turkish :)

[Anonymous No.16708241]

>>16708182
>Turks were (and still are) torn between Europe, the legacy of the Byzantine empire, Persia, India and Ethiopia

That's what TURK means for the last 300 years or so. That's Turkish identity. A cultural schizophrenia.

Huntington calls Turkey and Russia "torn countries"

It's a very liberating state of mind, it's all chaotic like Creation.

[Anonymous No.16708296]

>>16708029
Homer

[Anonymous No.16708301]

>>16708029
>Turkey is one of the great European nations

Turkey isn't a European nation, let alone a "great" one.

[Anonymous No.16708326]

>>16708301
>Turkey isn't a European nation
????
They are though. Istanbul is the largest city in Europe, and the Turks have an extensive history in Eastern Europe.

[Anonymous No.16708340]

>>16708326
>They are though

They aren't though

>Istanbul is the largest city in Europe

Occupied Constantinople.

>and the Turks have an extensive history in Eastern Europe.

As invaders and colonisers.

[Anonymous No.16708351]

>>16708070
Holy based

[Anonymous No.16708352]

>>16708029
The Presocratics

[Anonymous No.16708483]

>>16708052
Im making fun of turk dirt language. It’s a bunch of inhuman shit spewing

[Anonymous No.16708488]

>>16708070
Never call a Kurd a Turk you fucking cunt. Go fuck yourself. Biji Kurdistan Biji PKK

[Anonymous No.16708493]

>>16708340
butthurt gayreek detected.

[Anonymous No.16708499]

>>16708326
Yeah as rapists and child murderers

[Anonymous No.16708507]

>>16708488
>>16708070
>>16708040
>>16708034
>>16708301
>>16708340
>>16708483
>>16708499
RENT-FREE

[Anonymous No.16708517]

>>16708483
I dunno. I resolved to study Turkish lately because I grew concerned that I was getting an overly heated view of Muslims in the wake of recent events. My thinking was that by studying and learning a language used in a Muslim nation, I would be less susceptible to hateful thoughts. Arabic looked too complex, so I chose Turkish.

[Anonymous No.16708530]

>>16708493
Englishman, actually.

[Anonymous No.16708541]

>>16708517
Ghoopi ghltu ergty bantum

[Anonymous No.16708547]

>>16708517
Check
>New Turkes: Dramatizing Islam and the Ottoman in Early Modern England - M. Dimmock
>The Sultan Speaks: Dialogue in English Plays and Histories about the Ottoman Turks
>Orientalism - E. Said

and this is for you, mate
>>16708530
>The Lustful Turk, or Lascivious Scenes from a Harem by John Benjamin Brookes

[Anonymous No.16708555]

>>16708541
RENT-FREE

[Anonymous No.16708654]

>>16708029
>Turkey is one of the great European nations
>European
No.

[Anonymous No.16708683]

>>16708555
anani domuzu sochtum tamame serefsiz götveren ulaaaan yavsak seni sikerim

[Anonymous No.16708735]

>>16708340
One century ago, 30% of Istanbul was still Christian. Thread is about litterature, Turkey used to be very different from the current larping pushed by Erdogan.

[Anonymous No.16708755]

>>16708547
Orientalism is one of the most profoundly retarded books I've ever read and Edward Said and associated academics retarded politics basically make Arabs look bad

[Anonymous No.16708785]

>>16708755
but arabs do look bad

[Anonymous No.16709092]

>>16708541
>>16708483
>>16708040
Extreme cope about a very nice-sounding language. You better not be a Slav lol, you guys have some orc-tier languages

[Anonymous No.16709812]

>>16709092
i always wondered how it sounded to a foreigner. all foreign languages except english sound so fast. does turkish sound fast?

[Anonymous No.16709859]

>>16708029
This is the only literature you need

[Anonymous No.16710866]

>>16709812
It can sound fast but I think it sounds sweet, especially when women talk. It has a nice Asian touch.

[Anonymous No.16711395]

>>16709812
It sounds very crude to me like asian German or something maybe because i have stereotyped it spoken by a fat 40 yo with a mustache

[Anonymous No.16711853]

>>16708182

>russians living in the cultural shadow of europe


Dude. Dude... i dont even know where to start.

[Anonymous No.16711907]

>>16711853
Even the Russians admit it anon. Have you seen Russian Ark? (btw Sokourov is also a great director to whom the former criticism does not apply since he comes after 1917)

[Anonymous No.16711918]

>Great European nations

[Anonymous No.16711945]

>>16711918
Gayreek

[Anonymous No.16711956]

>>16711853
>reddit words, reddit ellipsis
About what I expect from someone who likes R*ssian literature

[Anonymous No.16711961]

>>16711945

[Anonymous No.16711969]

>>16711961
Attaturk killed tons of gayreeks and br*ts that came to invade the fatherland.

[Anonymous No.16712006]

>>16711969
Why such seething beta-male cope?

[Anonymous No.16712008]

>>16708296
Holy based

[Anonymous No.16712147]

>>16708029
Turkey completely modernized their language after the Ottoman Empire collapsed, and the vast majority of turkish literary culture is therefor inaccessible to the vast majority of the population, and only fragments have been translated into modern turkish.

[Anonymous No.16712456]

>>16711956
you are trying way too hard tranny

[Anonymous No.16712462]

>>16708182
Dumbest post I have read for last 5 years

[Anonymous No.16712491]

>>16708029
Turkish is an atrocious-sounding language. I’m probably as far removed from the Redditors who screech about Turks and Kurds as you can get, so my opinion actually holds some weight

[Anonymous No.16712498]

>>16712462
most ignorant post I have read for the last 5 years

[Anonymous No.16712503]

>>16712498
>n-no u
is this the best you can do faggot?
Keep seething you low IQ subhuman

[Anonymous No.16712507]

>>16712503
let me remind you that you presented no argument unlike I did in my first post

[Anonymous No.16712512]

>>16708029
Read the 1001 Nights. Very funny book.

>>>16712508

[Anonymous No.16712513]

>>16712507
you had no argument dumbfuck. You just made retarded analysis without any proof. Don't think no one is going to call you out on your retardation.

[Anonymous No.16712520]

>>16708029
>Turkey is one of the great European nations
The land is European but the people are not and never will be.

[Anonymous No.16712573]

>>16708029
What's wrong with the Turks? I grew up next to a Turkish family and though quiet and slow to get to know they were very pleasant people; also played club soccer with a Turkish dude in grad (he was at the Med school) and though aloof he was a solid player with a good sense of humor. Also a buddy of mine was a Corpbot in Bulgaria for two years and visited Istanbul twice, which he called the coolest city in the world. He said Bulgarians and Greeks could screech all they wanted about the Turks but they were in fact among the sweetest most helpful people he had met when in Europe. So, what gives?

[Anonymous No.16712575]

>>16712513
You know I'm right and it makes you mad. Just look at the history of St-Petersburg for instance. It was developed by Peter the Great to mimic other European capitals and to be closer to the rest of Europa. The architects he called to do so were almost all French and Italian. This only one of countless exemples and the same applies for Turkey. Keep seething.

[Anonymous No.16712577]

>>16708517
Worst choice. If you couldn't handle Arabic should have taken Farsi instead. Or even one of peripheral Muslim majority languages like Indonesian, Urdu or Bengali.

[Anonymous No.16712627]

The only things you'll find are Arabs who got swallowed up by the Ottomans

[Anonymous No.16712638]

>>16708029
Wisdom of Royal Glory, by Yusuf Has Hajib
Book of Dede Korkut
Epic of Köroğlu
Memed, My Hawk, by Yaşar Kemal
Seyahâtnâme, by Evliya Çelebi
Muhayyelât, by Ali Aziz Efendi
The Dar Zamanlar trilogy, by Adalet Ağaoğlu
The Black Book, by Orhan Pamuk

[Anonymous No.16712667]

>>16712491
Turkish is fine but it's not that great.
For what it's worth Tagalog is much more atrocious.

[Anonymous No.16712672]

>>16712573
It's almost as if not all people from a given ethnic group were exactly the same.

[Anonymous No.16712674]

>>16712520
This. Turks and Magyars out.

[Anonymous No.16712919]

>>16712667
Genuine question how is Tagalog worse than Turkish? I never heard someone speaking Turkish before so I don’t really know

[Anonymous No.16712957]

>>16712577
But Turkish has Latin script

[Anonymous No.16713007]

>>16712919
uglier
what can I say

[Anonymous No.16713050]

>>16708029

[Anonymous No.16713059]

>>16712957
So does Indonesian. But script doesn't matter, you spend on it only a minuscule time compared to grammar and vocab anyway.

[Anonymous No.16713081]

>>16708029
Orhan Pamuk might be my favorite author period. He's still alive and his best known books to date are from the early 2000s, so he isn't exactly a part of Turkish classical literary history, but he's a truly excellent novelist. His best books (to my knowledge) are My Name Is Red and Snow.

[Anonymous No.16713108]

>>16712491
>>16712667
What about Mandarin Chinese

[Anonymous No.16713121]

>>16713050
>>16712638
>>16708228
3 "memed, my hawk" recs. Now I need to read that.

[Anonymous No.16713401]

>european
Go back to the gc Oguz

[Anonymous No.16713557]

>>16712672
Yeah. Imagine that.

[Anonymous No.16713567]

>>16708517
Muhammad was a pedophile. Islam is an ideology not religion. Stop being brainwashed.

[Anonymous No.16714186]

I got The Book of Dede Korkut, but it's in a box in my wardrobe.

[Anonymous No.16714286]

>turkish mongrels
>european

keep dreaming, roachboy

[Anonymous No.16714323]

>>16712491
Pretty much every non-European language sound like an ape being tortured to death. Japanese and Farsi being the only exceptions.

[Anonymous No.16714990]

>>16714323
European languages sound like sucking cocks. Especially French Spanish and Italian. It turns men into women

[Anonymous No.16715004]

>>16714323
the African click languages are beyond kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSfYCty5wus

[Anonymous No.16715135]

>>16708029
Start with
Sabahattin Ali, Yusuf Atılgan, Sait Faik Abasıyanık. They are easy to read. (Orhan Pamuk is retarded don't read him.)
After reading them you are now ready for the good stuff. Try your first Turkish modernist novels, go with Ahmed Hamdi Tanpınar and Oguz Atay. You will probably take your time with Atay and also no better writer came after him so my recs end here.

For poetry, you are fine with only reading Nazım Hikmet. Avoid islamist pigs like Necip Fazıl and Mehmet Akif.

[Anonymous No.16715733]

>>16713567
>Stop being brainwashed.
????

[Anonymous No.16715749]

>>16714323
Turkish is unironically a beautiful language and this thread has thoroughly baffled me. To be fair I'm probably one of the few non-Chinese people to find Mandarin pleasing to the ear but I realize I'm in the minority there, Turkish is just a language I wouldn't expect people to dislike.
t. a Kurd

[Anonymous No.16715757]

>>16715749
>t.kurd
do they have a turkish jidf now?

[Anonymous No.16715848]

>>16715757
I mean you can believe what you wish to but it's a pretty language
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zl0WvHEGXY
I guess if it makes it any more believable I think the Turkish government is fucked and that Erdogan is an idiot

[Anonymous No.16715898]

>>16709812
Turkish sounds like someone deepthroating a kebab
>OGLAR BOGLAR OGLU BOGLU

[Anonymous No.16716195]

>>16708029
>Turkey is one of the great European
>great
>European
nope

[Anonymous No.16716220]

>>16708029
>Turkey is one of the great European nations
Haha

[Anonymous No.16716226]

>>16715135
>>16715135
here's an idiot who cannot appreciate good literature because of his political stance.

>Orhan Pamuk is retarded don't read him
He's a nobel laureate, just so you know.

>Avoid islamist pigs like Necip Fazıl and Mehmet Akif.
When you read Necip Fazıl, you're not being an islamist. You're just reading poetry.

also, /pol/ is leaking, by looking at the amount of butthurt in this thread.

>>16714286
>>16714323
>>16715757
>>16716195
>>16716220
R E N T - F R E E
>pic related.

[Anonymous No.16716252]

>>16716226
>Shows Turks raping women
I don't think you're making Turks look all that good anon....

[Anonymous No.16716267]

>>16708029
>European

[Anonymous No.16716360]

>>16716252
Those are drawn by some Balkan nationalist (Serbian, I guess?), for propaganda purposes. That tells something about "european" fantasies of cuckoldry, don't you think?