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/lit had you even heard about any of them?
never even thought about it, but I literally can't mention one female philosopher.......(worth mentioning that I'm a brainlet so that might be the reason)
do you think that happens because intelligent men have totally different interests than intelligent women?

>> No.16525278
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>>16525264
>Rand
this meme has gone to far, good bait

>> No.16525284

>>16525264
>Wollstonecraft
14 would have sounded just as good.

>> No.16525286

>>16525264
Objectivism, Ayn Rand's philosophy is among the most masculine philosophies ever devised.

>> No.16525290

>>16525286
it's retarded so by definition feminine.

>> No.16525297

>>16525264
>Mary Beard
>Ayn Rand
These people aren't even philosophers.

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>>16525264
>Mary Beard is now a philosopher too
They should really stick to a list of 5 and not embarrass themselves like this.

>> No.16525304

>no Cavendish
???

>> No.16525310

>>16525264
>Hypatia
name one reliable source
>Hannah Arendt
said she is a political theorist, not a philosopher (her books are top tier though)
>DeBeuavoir
Everyone knows her and her philosophy is still in discussion.
>Ayn Rand
Good meme
>all the others
name something that puts them in the major league of philosophy

>> No.16525312

>>16525264
Here's an actual list of female philosophers:

Ruth Barcan Marcus
G.E.M. Anscombe
Phillipa Foot
Susan Hurley
Mary Hesse
Annette Baier
Patricia Churchland
Penelope Maddy
Ruth Millikan
Nancy Cartwright
Susan Haack
Christine Korsgaard
Judith Jarvis Thomson
Dorothy Edgington
Jennifer Hornsby
Susan R. Wolf
Barbara Partee
Margaret Boden
Julia Annas
Sarah Broadie

>> No.16525313

Ada Lovelace is not a fucking philosopher.

>> No.16525314

>>16525290
I find it strange that a board that is preponderantly sympathetic to Stirner, dislikes Rand this much.

>> No.16525318

>>16525314
Stirner is a spook.

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>>16525310
>political theorists are not philosophers

>> No.16525324

>>16525264
lmao literally all female philisophy is just

>muh vagina

>> No.16525328

>>16525320
"I am not a philosopher." Hannah Arendt

>> No.16525330

>>16525324
Simone Weil too?

>> No.16525340

>>16525328
"I am not a Marxist." - Marx
No one cares what they claim retard

>> No.16525343

>>16525330
oh I forgot the occasional mystic mumbo jumbo

>> No.16525344

>>16525328
That alone can't prove it.

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>Mary Beard
>In response to a report in The Times of Oxfam employees engaging in sexual exploitation in disaster zones, Beard tweeted "Of course one can’t condone the (alleged) behaviour of Oxfam staff in Haiti and elsewhere. But I do wonder how hard it must be to sustain 'civilised' values in a disaster zone. And overall I still respect those who go in and help out, where most of us would not tread." [72] This led to widespread criticism, in which Mary Beard was accused of racism.[73] In response, Beard posted a picture of herself crying, explaining that she had been subjected to a "torrent of abuse" and that "I find it hard to imagine that anyone out there could possibly think that I am wanting to turn a blind eye to the abuse of women and children".[74]

The absolute state

>> No.16525349

>>16525343
Ok, now say something about Rand.

>> No.16525351

thanks anons!
9 minutes since I started the thread and you already proved that the post was made by some pseud feminist

>> No.16525353

>>16525349
rand? I don't even consider her a philsophy she is so retarded more like a good satire writer

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>>16525348
>

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>>16525361

>> No.16525369

>>16525340
T. Doesn't know the context of Marx's quote (probably never read Marx too)

>> No.16525373

>>16525361
>>16525348
>being this oversocialized

>> No.16525382

>>16525369
I do, I did, and kill yourself. Theorists always try to distance themselves from labels and act as misunderstood special snowflakes immune to any criticism.

>> No.16525386

>>16525348
Why would anyone take a philosopher that takes social media, especially twitter, seriously?

>> No.16525391

I have a PhD in Women’s Philosophy so here are a few starter recommendations from me:

Sarah Bonson
Maurine Chogwink
Yoline N’Wogbi
Lauren Scroteshort
Anna M. Fartswell

>> No.16525395

>>16525391
What is the pun for "NWogbi" supposed to be? I'm ESL and I don't get it.

>> No.16525396

>>16525264
Only female thinkers you need are
>Catherine of Siena
>Teresa of Avila
>Hildegard of Bingen
Foot, Anscombe and Murdoch are ok too

>> No.16525399

>>16525314
Rand is spooked

>> No.16525403

>>16525264
In what context should they be brought up in school? Which class, what age?

>> No.16525416

>no Arete of Cyrene
>no Edith Stein
>no Cornelia de Vogel
>no Julian of Norwich
>no Hildegard of Bingen
>no Ruth Benedict
>no Kathy Charmaz
>no Teresa of Avila
>no Clare of Assisi
>no Margaret Mead
>no Fiona Bowie

>> No.16525421

>>16525403
Feminist Studies

>> No.16525459

>>16525348
Feminist ontology can't escape online bullying, why not?

>> No.16525495

>>16525395
wog

>> No.16525499

>>16525361
Oh no!! She's crying!!

>> No.16525503

>>16525395
Knob? Knobbly as in having knots or bumps? I´m also an ESL and don´t see it either. Maybe N´wog is just wordplay on nignog?:

>> No.16525508

>>16525264
Susanne Langer

>> No.16525514

>>16525310
>Weil
>Waiting for God
>Need for roots
>not thinking that it puts her into major leage

FILTERED

>> No.16525520

>>16525264
Weil and Anscombe are the only ones of any value in that list, and Weil is a philosopher only in a very wide sense.

>> No.16525531

Simone best girl. Rest of them are hacks not worth reading

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>>16525531
She's a snoozefest. Jews should stick to marxist schizophrenia at least that's more entertaining

>> No.16525575

>>16525556
Quote is simply quietism, which was already promoted by many women through history, like in the late 17th century quarrel.
Even though popes had to regularly lightly condemn the opinion when it pretended being a theoretical theology, this is a psychologically healthy view for a woman.

>> No.16525583

>>16525575
>by many women through history, like in the late 17th century quarrel.
Lol it existed since the Hellenistic philosophers

>> No.16525599

>>16525583
Do you think naming one example means it has to be the first instance in history?
The view is prehistorical and far more remote than Hellenism anyway. Some primitives had quietist habits. It's strange to cite the Hellenistic period because it wasn't that common in those times.

>> No.16525659

>>16525396
>>16525416
oh I forgot about Catherine of Siena

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>>16525361
JUST

>> No.16525692

All of these 'good' female philosophers either have extremely masculine faces or have symptoms of hysteria. Tertium non datum.

>> No.16525702

>>16525692
Also, none of the instances given so far approach the level of a sixth-rate male philosopher (e.g. someone like Schleiermacher)

>> No.16525706

Where is Judith Butler?

>> No.16525714

>>16525702
It almost seems like the greatest female philosopher will only ever be as great as a mediocre male philosopher, doesn't it?

>> No.16525735

>>16525714
It seems so, yeah. >>16525706

>> No.16525738

>>16525735
Didn't mean to tag the other anon.

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>>16525706
In the trash were she belongs

>> No.16525757

I learned about literally zero philosophers in school, male or female.

>> No.16525773

>>16525264
de Beauvoir and Wollstonecraft would probably have never achieved any degree of success without their Male companions, the only actual philosophers on this list are Weil, Anscombe and Foot, that's enough given that they outcompete most male pseudosophers

>> No.16525804

>>16525264
I appreciate this is bait, but surely no one believes Mary Beard is a philosopher (or Ada Lovelace for that matter? I sincerely hope...
My favourite is Diotima, that some Wikipedia editor is desperately trying to meme into reality while the best Plato scholars, like Luc Brisson, maintain she's probably more a literary creation of Plato than a real person

>> No.16525819

>>16525416
Taking a very wide definition of philosophy there, including spiritual/mystic writers (why not, I guess) and anthropologists (why the fuck?)

>> No.16525831

>>16525755
Scrotum is even more irrelevant than Buttler.

>> No.16525830

>>16525773
I'm considered an evil fascist by my colleagues (well, slight exaggeration, I don't reveal my power levels), and I agree with you: those are the only legit great philosophers on the list

>> No.16525847

>>16525706
Not a philosopher.

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>>16525831
At least he was a real philosopher

>> No.16525870

>>16525556
Pretty baller quote actual, it's reminding of Saint John of the Cross.

>> No.16525881

>>16525855
the irony

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>>16525755
>>16525855
Based and checked

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>>16525887
So close

>> No.16525895

>>16525361
Mary Beard isn't even the worst, in terms of virtue signalling; she's usually fairly old-school in her "feminist" approach, afaik (more giving more importance to great female figures of the past than constant whining about muh oppression), and probably a funny enough old academic type, trying to be relevant generally. She is also, in her field of Roman religion, a reference, so miles above the sorry likes of Emily Wilson, Donna Zuckerberg or Sarah Bond (I leave out other crazy women classicists who are nonetheless a bit more than memes: Sandra Boehringer, Paige duBois and others). The episode does highlight just how bizarre the mind of a woman can be, and, as another anon mentioned, how oddly oversocialised these people are: speaking from the groves of academe, there is pretty much no group of people as oversocialised, conformist in its thought patterns, and predictable in its reactions as modern academics, especially females

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>>16525855
Based (not a Scrutonist but I loved his introductions to Kant, Spinoza and modern philosophy)

>> No.16525910

>>16525819
Yeah I know it's philosophy in wide sense but theology was traditionally considered part of philosophy so Julian of Norwich, Hildegard of Bingen, Teresa of Avila, Clare of Assisi, Catherine of Siena fit in this definition of philosophy and were also important in history of ethics. Methodology of science is also part of philosophy and Kathy Charmaz, Ruth Benedict, Margaret Mead, Fiona Bowie are influential thinkers in methodology of social sciences. Arete of Cyrene were one of founders and teacher of big philosophical school in antiquity and Edith Stein was influential both in philosophy as important student of Husserl and in theology&spirituality.

>> No.16525916

>>16525264
MARY FUCKING BEARD
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.16525919

>>16525264
TIL: novelists and mathematicians are philosophers
Ah my favourite philosophers: Ernest Hemingway and Terence Tao

>> No.16525925

>>16525910
and Vogel is important thinker in contemporary discussions about interpretation of Plato

>> No.16525928

>>16525910
Well, I'd have to disagree with you; traditionally, philosophy was described as "ancilla theologiae", servant of theology, and the two were clearly distinguished by most writers (though usually not divorced by the great scholastics); I'd recommend Gilson's small essay "Plaidoyer pour la servante", as he pondered the question a great deal
And no, methodology of science does not count as philosophy, except if the latter term is viewed as "the sum of all wisdom drawn from human knowledge", in which case sure, but then Sonichu is also a philosophical text, as it offers ground for deep meditation on the vagaries of human imagination

>> No.16525934

>>16525925
In some places maybe, but I'm specialise in ancient philosophy, and she's a literal who

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>>16525755
>>16525855
>>16525900
>3 Scruton posts
>dubs in all of them

>> No.16525943

>>16525919
Terrence Tao is close to being a philosopher, he's extremely well read in a wide variety of topics, his blogposts on welfare economics filtered my midwit colleagues majoring in economics and his famous riddle filtered Mankiw (not a surprise, it is generally agreed that economists are amongst the stupidest and least erudite people to hold PhDs), he easily mogs 99% of /lit/ intellectually and has probably completed the Western canon by the time he was 12

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>>16525264
No one's noticed yet, but there are 16 names on there. The woman who made the post made her name the largest compared to the philosophers she claims are significant. Thus proving that she values recognition over making a point.
Pic is very much related.

>> No.16525973

>>16525943
This. And Tao gave a mathematical proof refuting Blunpf's presidential competency

>> No.16525979

>>16525973
Sounds spergy, I like how it sounds. Can you provide me with a link?

>> No.16526026

>>16525310
Anscombe was instrumental in making sure the later works of Ludwig Wittgenstein were published and edited. Without reference to another philosopher, she was also important in reviving virtue ethics.
Philippa Foot described the "Trolley Dilemma" which is rivaled by next to none as the most famous thought experiment in the history of philosophy.

>> No.16526042

>>16526026
Ship of Theseus could be more famous than the trolley problem i think.

>> No.16526043

>>16526026
Lmao, you think casuistry
was something Foot invented? Nigga read Escobar

>> No.16526045

>>16525264
Why do these retards never mention best-girl Iris Murdoch?

>> No.16526047

>>16525310
Foots morality as a system of hypothetical imperatives is pretty based desu

>> No.16526061

>>16526043
I didn't say she invented it you fucking mongoloid, I said that one of the most famous instances of it that literally high schoolers will recognize is from her. Very few philosophers in general let alone female philosophers could claim to have had that level of reach.

>> No.16526064

>>16525979
https://terrytao.wordpress.com/2016/06/04/it-ought-to-be-common-knowledge-that-donald-trump-is-not-fit-for-the-presidency-of-the-united-states-of-america/

>> No.16526074

>>16525934
Well I'm not specialist myself (philosopher or historian of philosophy) but I was interested in unwritten doctrines of Plato for some time so I remember her name from this discussion but I know it isn't really that popular problem.
>>16525928
Well it's deeper problem of borders between philosophy, theology and science. I respect Your (and Gilson's) opinion but for me such strict borders don't exist. Theology, metaphysics and ethics influenced each other. Methodology of science, episthemology and logics influenced each other. Today these borders are more strict but in history of philosophy it wasn't so obvious. Thank you for recommendation. I will check it. Btw I'm just started reading Gilson's (with Langan and Maurer) ''Recent Philosophy''. Even if we agree that not all of these ladies were philosophers sensu stricto we can still agree that they were influential thinkers in history of philosophy.
One more important female was Elisabeth Kübler-Ross (she was psychiatrist but also influential thinker in anthropology)

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>>16525264
>women
>philosophers
Woman and philosophy are like oil and water, the two simply do not mix. Women, due to being inferior creatures, are incapable of thinking abstractly past a certain point. They also have an aversion to metaphysics and a disregard for the truth, unless it suits them.

>> No.16526092

>>16526064
It's even better (worse) than what I expected.

>> No.16526109

>>16526074
*I just started reading

>> No.16526114

>>16526089
Schopenhauer?

>> No.16526118

>>16526061
Oh so all you care about is 'outreach' like some social media communicator, got it.

>> No.16526119

>>16526089
Incel hands typed this, pray tell when was the last time you interacted with a human female?

>> No.16526135

>>16526118
>being this thick

>> No.16526142

>>16526074
Most of the examples you listed seem to be Catholic mystics and whatnot. No standard history of philosophy really mentions them in any great detail. It's why we don't include names like Justin Martyr or Dante Alighieri as philosophers, not because they were entirely devoid of conent that could be potentially interesting to a historian of philosophy, but that they themselves did not put forth any significant doctrine in logic, metaphysics or what have you.

>> No.16526145

>>16525264
>Mary Beard
What an absolute cope

>> No.16526148

>>16526135
I like em chunky

>> No.16526150

>>16526148
I will admit most female philosophers worth a damn were quite thin.

>> No.16526169

>>16526114
Yes
>>16526119
>ad hominem
Not an argument, faggot.

>> No.16526206

>>16525943
briefly, what is his position on welfare economics?
I am assuming he's critical of it since you said he filt Mankiw (who is a neo-Ken)

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>>16526150
>not acknowledging the thicc queen

>> No.16526316

>>16526288
Disgusting library stickers on all those books, yuck

>> No.16526318

>>16526288
Who's that bloated sack of shit?

>> No.16526339

>>16525314
Stirner was never used as burger propaganda

>> No.16526341

>>16525348
holy shit

>> No.16526349

>>16525264
>Arendt
Cringe
>Beard
Refuted by Taleb

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/lit/ please give me the quick rundown on Spivak

>> No.16526376

>>16525910
Where are the POC women?

>> No.16526377

>>16525264
Simone Weil is pretty based ngl

>> No.16526701

>>16526318
Korsgaard

>> No.16526841

>>16525264
Did whoever made this leave her name on the bottom? Amazingly typical.

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>>16525382
The tyranny of labels is true fascism

>> No.16526914

>>16525264
Why so many Marys? Does the name cause bigbrainism?

>> No.16526928

>>16526879
Bullshit. Anyhow, in Arendt's case her refusal of the label "philosopher" was her way of defining her career path, her academic focus, and also of distancing her from her past with, under, and against Heidegger.

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>>16525264
Anscombe, Sartre's whore, and 13 literally whos. Educating women was a mistake

>> No.16526969

>>16525755
Why bring in an old dead tobacconist?

>> No.16526979

>>16526934
Says a proud nobody

>> No.16527025

>>16526969
Seems fitting, as OP's image already contained a pimp and several shitmongers

>> No.16527125

>>16526979
Why would you be concerned about his post, you're not a woman

>> No.16527285

>>16526928
Her lectures on Kant's 3rd Crutique were to serve as her final aesthetico-political philosophy.

>> No.16527563

>>16526879
Cuteboys aren't anti-label, they've been neglected by the current (broadly "anti-fascist") paradigm, and therefore that paradigm's labels. Gerudo Link cosplayers are peak fascism desu ngl.

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>>16525264
>philippa foot

>> No.16527568

>>16525264
>ayn rand
fuck off

>> No.16527572

>>16525386
She's a historian, not a philosopher

>> No.16527573

>>16525297
Beard isn't, Rand is. But Rand's inclusion definitely means this pic is bait and/or anon shitposting. No feminist (except for my retard cousin) would include Rand as a female philosopher.

>> No.16527583

>>16525264
>do you think that happens because intelligent men have totally different interests than intelligent women?

No it happens because there are almost no female authors/philosophers worth reading. There are two to five in total and all of them are long deceased.

>> No.16527631

>>16525264
Most people couldn't tell you who Plato or Socrates was after finishing school
If you're lucky some edgy teen won't shut up about Nietz or Cameltoe

>> No.16527766

>>16527573
Rand isn't even remotely a philosopher. Nothing to do with "feminism".

>> No.16527773

>>16525264

>Mary Wollenstonecraft
>Ada Lovelace
>Hannah Arendt
>Simone de Beauvoir
>Ayn Rand

Literally everyone with some semblance of education in the humanities knows who these people are.

>> No.16527789

>>16525264
No

/thread

>> No.16527796

>Ada Lovelace
?
Math isn't philosophy... or is it?!?

>> No.16527803

>>16527796
......Hey! Vsause Michael here

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>>16525264

>> No.16527916

>>16525314
It is part of our faith that we should hate her

>> No.16527943

>>16525264
>listening to holes

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahhababahabab

>> No.16527949

>>16525895
>She is also, in her field of Roman religion, a reference
>who is John Scheid
>who is Jörg Rüpke
>who is Dumézil
Maybe in the anglosphere, I guess.

>> No.16527991

>>16525264
I always found it impressive how good Weil managed to be despite being both a jew and a woman. I suppose it's like one of those buddhist parables about muddy waters and beautiful lotuses.

>> No.16527994

>>16526377

Incredibly so.

>> No.16528015

>you probably never heard if ayn rand
Pack it up boys, this isn't real

>> No.16528022

>>16527949
Anglo classical studies are notoriously bad and most of them haven't heard of these.

>> No.16528029

>>16525264
The only woman philosopher that deserves to be Socrates of woman's is >Hannah Arendt

>> No.16528044

>>16527991

She was incredible autistic though right? Everything about her screams it - no interest in romance, little social awareness (would just barge in to peoples houses), complete lack of common sense (fighting in the Spanish Civil War).

>> No.16528061

>>16527949
I know all of these, though Dumézil is considered a bit passé desu (I'd still read him over Scheid any day though), but thanks for that useful post; fyi, an academic field can have more than three references...
Also, I would point out her Religions of Rome (co-written with John North and Simon Price) is actually alongside the others on the reading list for people preparing the highly selective French teaching qualification (agrégation), so yes, it's fair to say she's a reference, even outside the anglosphere. She's written a good many potboilers and vulgarisations, but that's probably her most legit work.
t. Classicist (who generally speaking dislikes Mary Beard)

>>16528022
Really, how so? genuinely interested, I'm French, with only minor experience in anglo classicism

>> No.16528068

>>16528061
Dumézil is only passé because retarded people still want to associate him with the nazis for no actual reason than envy of how good he was at what he did. His work on archaic roman religion is still 100% unsurpassed to my knowledge.

>> No.16528101

>>16528068
Not only because of associations with nazism, desu, the most competent people still defend him and use his methodologies (Sergent notably, not to mention Haudry...); I basically agree with you, and see no good reason for Dumézil to be passé, except that newer work has been done, and therefore occupies a lot of less well read scholars' minds; sadly enough, that's often the case in Classics
Beard is still a reference though...

>> No.16528116

>>16526353
>whitey bad! T_T T_T T_T

>> No.16528125

>>16525264
>Mary beard
lol, really scrapping the bottom of the barrel to pull that list together.

>> No.16528178

>>16528116
really? my professors said she was really complicated

>> No.16528232

>>16528125
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp1uGmo36q0

She's killing it in any interview, appearance she makes. Of course she will be included into the contemporary list.

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>> No.16528248

>>16528237
For one, I am glad women are having their moment on this board rn, it does not hurt to have one of these from time to time.

>> No.16528255

>>16525264
It's because what you're seeing in this thread is what the average male thinks either subconsciously or implicitly.

Also, read Sor Juana

>> No.16528259

>>16528101
Dumezil had the benefit of being well recognized at the end of his life and is part of the greats that will remain in history, but I guess the hype is over.
I remember vaguely hearing about some controversy in France involving some pseud butthurt at Dumezil and going so far as denying Indo-Europeans altogether. Was it the academic hot topic at some point in that microcosm?

>> No.16528277

>>16525264
>no philosophical works
>literally who
>literally who
>literally who
>not a philosopher

>popular
>literally who
>literally who
>literally who
>popular

>extremely popular, second sex is a famous work everyone learns about in school
>literally who
>literally who
>literally who
>extremely popular, who the fuck hasn't heard of ayn rand?

hmm looks like there's a pattern here

>> No.16528322

>>16528259
>going so far as denying Indo-Europeans altogether

Not him but that's par for the course for post-WW2 IE studies. I can't remember the last time I read a book about some aspect of IE linguistics/culture/history released after WW2 without a token chapter about muh nazis, muh nationalism, or how IE people didn't ackshually exist as a group, - but even if they did! -, they looked like dravidian pajeets or some shit like that. It's so tiresome.

>> No.16528369

>>16528248
SIMP

Also, pretty sure the shit quality of OP's info is more harmful to women than anything else

>> No.16528407

>>16528259
Yes, Jean-Paul Demoule, wrote a book called 'Où sont passés les Indo-Européens"; he's a rather noted prehistorian, but this particular book of his was widely panned by specialists; a large part is basically complaining about how IE historical and philological research was much appreciated by nahzees and has been reappropriated by New Right thinkers and scholars (in the 90s, indologist Jean Varenne and sanskritologist Jean Haudry, notably, were part of the Comité scientifique of the Front National), another was an attempt to dismantle the whole edifice of IE studies, but that was a dismal failure. On the other side of the pond, I believe Bruce Lincoln is the main anti-Dumézilian, and he may be less of a pseud, but very unbalanced in his assessment...
I'd recommend this article, by a great scholar of strategy, and student of Dumézil, it summarises the conflict around his legacy
https://www.persee.fr/doc/hes_0752-5702_1995_num_14_3_1789

>> No.16528510

>>16525314
>one retarded stirnerfag is the entire board

>> No.16528868

>>16528232
What an airhead lol

>Let me tell you some epic rhetorical tricks for social media

>> No.16528954

>>16525314
It's a testament to just how shit Rand is

>> No.16529588

>>16526979
Nobody has put anon on a chart and pretended he’s a philosopher, retard. You can comment about that someone more successful than you might be wrong or stupid, I’d have thought you of all people would understand criticising people more lauded than them.

>> No.16529651

>>16525314
It's sexism, anon. What else do you expect? Society is still majorly sexist and 4chan contains the dregs of that society. It's like how Biden is up 10 points on Trump after the debate now despite Clinton being a far better candidate.

>> No.16529723

>>16525310
I thinking of picking up Origins of totalitarianism, any other arendt I should check out?

>> No.16529778

>Ada Lovelace
They really can't let go of her, can they? First she's da furst compyuta programma and now she's a philosopher too?

>> No.16529896

>>16529723
Whatever topic interests. I pocked up On Revolution and a a collection from Penguin

>> No.16530048

>>16529723
ORIGINS OF TOTALITARIANISM man I wonder what feminine bs that lady managed to have published. It's not that complicated honey! If you want niggas to be doin what u want they be doin, makem sweat!!!!!!!!! hate these pseuds with their "essential features of urrrrrfascism" faggots. I hate these people. Bugman literature.

>> No.16530054 [DELETED] 

>>16530048
Goose step outta here

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>>16530054
>dude the right AND the left are the bad guys... dude they do like the same thing...
Truly an ADROIT realization, very profound! This book is 500 pages long and you doesn't contain a single thing you don't already know.
>Why on Earth are these people being mean to each other? I'll just call the colonialists prot-totalitarians... and the anti-semites...
Sounds like she's just describing some (oh so very) mean behavior and making up some correlation = causation bs. Actual dribble. It's either basic bitch psychology from the 50s or it's sub-standard history, or it's both. In any case it isn't worth anyone's time.

>> No.16530125

>>16530120
*long and doesn't

>> No.16530162

>>16530120
Okay.


Your thoughts on Jouvenel‘s On Power, and Robert Michels Political Parties?

>> No.16530214

>>16530162
Alright desu, interesting. Nothing you wouldn't read about in brief on twitter but maybe worth checking out. The sort of historical scholarship you see in Arendt's work would fit right in amongst the historical faculty in Gass' The Tunnel. Though possibly even more hack-ish.

>> No.16530252

>>16525290
It's only retarded when applied to the real world where there are women and feminized men who act in antithesis of objectivity. In a world of forms where everyone thought objectively, objectivism would be both good and natural. It may not have any proper application, but it is still worth thinking about.

>> No.16530388

>>16525264

Iris Murdoch is very good. Martha Nussbaum is also good.

>> No.16530391

>>16525312

Good list. Add Iris Murdoch.

>> No.16530402

So many jews lol

>> No.16531464

>>16525958
holy shit based

>> No.16531597

>>16529651
Bogeymen aside, it's mostly because women writers and philosophers are, as a rule, far inferior to their male counterparts

>> No.16531680

Where's Edith Stein?

>> No.16531823

>>16531680
Someone who thinks Beauvoir is a worthy philosopher (not to mention Mary Beard and Ada Lovelace...) is unlikely to appreciate Stein

>> No.16531908

philosophy is so masculine that even hilary putnam is a man

>> No.16531918

>>16525264
you've only heard of these ones because the person who wrote this hates men

if they said exactly the same words but had a penis, the person who created this would consider them invalid

their opinion is not worthwhile

>> No.16532007

>>16525264
so many literally whos

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>>16525391
>I have a PhD in Women’s Philosophy
i'll take a double latte no soi

>> No.16532032

>>16525314
The philosophies of Max Stirner and Ayn Rand are only superficially similar. For example, Ayn Rand would be horrified by Stirner's declaration "Whoever knows how to take, to defend, the thing, to him belongs property". Stirner on the other hand would be horrified by Ayn Rand's worship of material greed and state power. Ayn Rand was a minarchist. Stirner was an anarchist. Ayn Rand believed in law and contracts. Stirner denounced both.

>> No.16532040

>>16532019
It was an obvious joke you idiot

>> No.16532585

>>16532040
>It was obvious
not really, it's feasible that a phd in that could exist

>> No.16532611

>>16532585
If you believe someone studied Lauren Scroteshort and Anna M. Fartswell there's a bridge I'd like to sell you

>> No.16532825

>>16529723
The Human Condition; it's pretty based and greekpilled.

>> No.16532856

>>16525348
>Beard posted a picture of herself crying
Women really don't want to be taken seriously for a few more centuries, do they?

>> No.16532859

>>16525361
SHE'S CRYING SO SHE'S CORRECT OTHERWISE YOU'RE AN ASSHOLE

>> No.16533514

>>16526969
The amount of disrespect that emmenated from your mouth on his death made me lose a lot of faith that you could become tolerable on this board. There is a reason so many flock to hate on you and it's entirely deserved.

>> No.16533688

>>16533514
>I can’t roll with the memes man. Too harsh.
Why are you even here?

>> No.16533803

>>16525264
Beauvoir, Rand, Arendt, Murdoch, Anscombe, Foot and Weil obviously. These aren't obscure.

They should add Hilda Oakeley to the list though

>> No.16534562

>>16525264
>Hypathia
>woman philosopher
She didn't even write anything on her own. Why do all the midwits shill for this barely noticable figure, portraing her as a persecuted genius, feminist icon, brilliant inventor or the first humanist atheist? She was none of that.

>> No.16534857

>>16525264
I DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT WIMMENZ "PHILOSOPHERS"

>> No.16534864

>>16525312
Ignored list of actual philosophers. Op is a faggot

>> No.16535063

>>16525531
Wrong. Simone is trash. Anscombe is far superior and don’t bother @ing me because I’m closing this thread after I post this comment and won’t see your shit reply anyway.

>> No.16535083

>>16534562
>She didn't even write anything on her own
Neither did Socrates.

>> No.16535088

>>16535063
I'd agree she's the best on the list; Weil has some great intuitions, flashes of genius, and great style, but Anscombe is definitely the most powerful thinker

>> No.16535094

>>16535063
>>16525531
I assumed you were talking about De Poovouir, not Weil. If you were referring to Weil, I retract my statement. If you did mean Poovouir, I recant nothing and I am officially closing this thread for real this time.

>> No.16535743

>>16534857
You should? Philip Foot invented the trolly problem

>> No.16535761

>>16535094
They were talking about Wiel

>> No.16535905

>>16525314
Rand never had a smug may-may avatar.

>> No.16535909

>>16535094
I can't imagine anyone but buttertranny calling the feminist "best girl". Meanwhile Weil is close to the platonic idea of a waifu.

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>>16525264
Mods take down this thread I’m weary of it spamming my catalog page

>> No.16536092

Marcia sa Cavalcante Schuback

>> No.16536116

>>16535914
I know right can't believe this shit thread is still here

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>>16525348
Fucking women are hilarious ahahahaha I'm so fucking glad I'm not a woman lads holy shit I feel inspired by this, the ALMIGHTY GOD literally made me a MAN and not a woman, how can I ever complain about anything again? In His infinite wisdom He saw me become a baby in my mother's womb and He reached in and touched my head and said "No, you will not be a woman, you will be a MAN"

THANK YOU GOD for this glorious gift

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>>16525264
>Ayn Rand

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>> No.16536490

>>16525290
This

>> No.16536537

>>16525391
>Fartswell

Shouldn't she be Queefswell if she's a woman philosopher?

>> No.16537314

>>16525264
the only two people know are ayn rand and Hannah Arendt. Which is funny since one of those name sounds like an abreviated version of the other

>> No.16537981

>>16536344
We wuz witches n shiet