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[Anonymous No.16519949]

So why are there no female philosophers?

[Anonymous No.16520023]

>>16519949
woman have smaller brains on average

[Anonymous No.16520027]

>>16519949
Simon Weil

[Anonymous No.16520033]

There are

[Anonymous No.16520034]

Judith Butler is the most famous philosopher alive currently
>inb4 "noo she's bad!!"
Unironically filtered

[Anonymous No.16520050]

>>16519949
They were not allowed in higher education until recently, and there hasn't been any new philosophy discoveries recently, aka they missed the boat.

[Anonymous No.16520063]

Thinking outside of the norm is anathema to women. Women are literally repulsed and disgusted by ideas that go against whatever the narrative of the day is.

[Anonymous No.16520068]

>>16520050
Define recently?

[Anonymous No.16520075]

>>16520050
Retard take
Good job, it's not even your own idea but an idea given to you.

[Anonymous No.16520097]

>>16520068
after Heidegger

[Anonymous No.16520115]

>>16520097
Not true. Women were already attaining more advanced degrees than men in the same social class in the 1920s.

[Anonymous No.16520129]

People pursue their power interests, to women the ultimate power interest is to reproduce.

[Anonymous No.16520143]

>>16520063
I noticed this too, but why it is so?

[Anonymous No.16520147]

>>16520075
Care to explain or...

[Anonymous No.16520152]

>>16519949
Butler
Sedgwick
Irigaray
de Beauvoir
Spivak
Julia FUCKING Kristeva

you're just a pseud, anon.

[Anonymous No.16520155]

Because MEN!!!!! WON'T LET US

MEEEENNNNNN EVERYTHING IS THE FAULT OF MEN ANY TIME I DO ANYTHING WRONG IT'S A MAN'S FAULT WHY AREN'T THERE WOMEN IN STEM?? MEN DIDN'T LET US, WHAT DO YOU MEAN WOMEN ARE ALLOWED IN STEM, WELL MEN DIDNT ENCOURAGE ME ENOUGH THEN!!!!

(the above is why there are now women philosophers, or women anything else either)

[Anonymous No.16520158]

>>16520050
It's not so much the issue of higher education, it's that no one really wanted to listen until more modern times, and you can't have a philosopher without an audience.

[Anonymous No.16520182]

>>16520143
The worst humans and the best humans are men. Women are never the outliers.
Seems like it's just a biological safety. Women keep things stable by choosing which eccentric is worthy enough to reproduce with.
Men are nature's experiments. None of this is intentional but it happens this way.

[Anonymous No.16520184]

>>16519949
There are, but none of them are really interested in Absolute Truth. Celia Green comes closest.

[Anonymous No.16520197]

>>16520155
Why does the idea that societal oppression has had some effect on women make ppl seethe so much? Actually calm down dude

[Anonymous No.16520199]

>>16520152
are you sure you know what philosophy is?

[Anonymous No.16520200]

>>16520182
>None of this is intentional

[Anonymous No.16520231]

>>16520063
It's an interesting thought, but extreme art has and always has been full of women, specially so in the 70s when it was actually counter cultural.

>inb4 interested not in the art but how it gives them pleasure

Couldn't you say the same for men or anyone really into extreme art?

[Anonymous No.16521692]

>>16519949

Terminal sex obsession.

>ask classmates what they're researching
>male classmates are all researching fascinating, unique, or at least ambitious things
>woman: "Misogyny in Rome"
>woman: "Misogyny and Hamlet"
>woman: "The intersection of misogyny and periods in Hamlet"
>woman: "Women"
>woman: "Opinions about women having sex in Weimar newspapers"
>woman: "Women in the work of Robert Musil"
>woman: "Vagina"
>woman: "I have a vagina"
>woman: "I'm a woman btw. Vagina here"
>woman: "Sex and periods in gender"
>woman: "Woman perceptions of woman, ,vagina, cooters breasts woman period I'm on my period clitorises in the work of the band Oingo Boingo and Hamlet's Perception of Clitoris Vagina Gender Studies"
>woman: "Queering Gender in Medieval Manuscripts: Your period or MY period?"
>woman: "Misogyny, Periods, and You: Ernst Cassirer on Substance, Function, and My Gay Love Affair with Gender Studies"
>woman: "Women in 'Woman's Work': Gendering Gender in the Social Sciences"
>woman: "Prostitution and Gender in Antebellum Calcutta"
>woman: "Gender"
>woman: "Sex and gender studies"
>woman: "Tampons, pads, and ironclads: Stonewall Jackson and Freebleeding"
>woman: "Einstein contra Bergson: Who rapes me more by having existed?"

[Anonymous No.16521743]

>>16520152
None of them say anything meaningful besides muh men bad muh vagina muh misogyny.

[Anonymous No.16521752]

>>16520034
Dilate

[Anonymous No.16521755]

>>16519949
Estrogen doesn't amplify intellect, only emotions. They do better in writing limpwristed poetry.

[Anonymous No.16521764]

>>16521743
Lol imagine being filtered by Beauvoir. I would not even try to read Kristeva if I was you....

[Anonymous No.16521773]

>>16519949
Ever hear of a little thing called the patriarchy? It's keeping them out of philosophy.

[Anonymous No.16521835]

>>16520027

She's female yet there's something incredibly genderless about her and her writings

[Anonymous No.16521845]

>>16519949
females on average are not autistic enough

[Anonymous No.16521855]

>>16520152
You've listed a bunch of pseuds, where are the philosophers?

[Anonymous No.16521863]

>>16521845
Must be why they avoid STEM like the plague too

[Anonymous No.16521865]

>>16519949
too dumb, it's not controversial at all that in the 130+ IQ range women are really rare.

[Anonymous No.16521879]

>>16521865
IRC a much larger proportion of females are average IQ where males have both much larger proportions of both idiots and genius (larger deviation in IQ).

[Anonymous No.16521884]

>>16521692
This. For some reason is stuck abstractly thinkin only about complaining, gossiping and slanderin and sex. Everything else is simpleton.

For some reason, they spend their entire lives pretending that they are not complaining sex obsessed humans, while every real thought and Freudian slip can be traced back to that.

[Anonymous No.16521901]

>>16521764
>imagine being filtered by [a hack who was only famous because she was in a relationship with an even more egregious hack]

[Anonymous No.16521902]

>>16520027
>Simon Weil

You guys won't believe what I found in the early life section of her wikipedia.

>>16520034
>Judith Butler

You guys won't believe what I found in the early life section of her wikipedia page.

[Anonymous No.16521941]

female philosophy is so pathetic they actually have sheboons in their list of noteable female philosophers.
Like how shallow does your field of philosophy have to be to have a negress actually manage to be in your midst.

[Anonymous No.16521947]

>>16521764
Tell a single idea of this whore that doesn't involve muh women.

[Anonymous No.16521952]

>>16521879
Don't know 'IRC' but that's correct plus men are just on average about 5 IQ points smarter. (see picture) These two things together mean virtually all smart people are men.

[Anonymous No.16521977]

>>16521947
How to run an efficient harem for your crosseyed frog lover

[Anonymous No.16522008]

>You guys won't believe what I found in the early life section of her wikipedia page.

[Anonymous No.16522022]

[Anonymous No.16522027]

>>16521902
based. Thank you for warning others.

[Anonymous No.16522036]

>>16521977
So nothing transcendental or meaningful?

[Anonymous No.16522048]

>>16522022
Weininger was probably the most based jew that ever existed

[Anonymous No.16522054]

>>16522022
>sechsundzwanzigste Auflage
kek

[Anonymous No.16522062]

>>16522008
>YOU CAN'T JUST NOTICE PATTERNS BRO THAT'S RACIST

[Anonymous No.16522070]

>>16521692
lmao well spotted

[Anonymous No.16522084]

>>16519949
They've just been held by society anon, just like black people in America. They still are anon, just wait a few more millennia and you'll see what they're able to do!

[Anonymous No.16522107]

There are, they're just shit.

[Anonymous No.16522120]

>>16522107
that pic is not real, or if it is, it is a comedy bit.

[Anonymous No.16522124]

>>16521902
Weyl is an honorary aryan. She has transcended her jewishness.
Fuck Butler though.

[Anonymous No.16522126]

>>16521941
>they
who? That picture is not indicative

[Anonymous No.16522138]

>>16519949
uhhhh, ayn rand? what the fuck??

[Anonymous No.16522145]

>>16521941
>half of them are jewish and half of them are black

[Anonymous No.16522162]

>>16519949
Weininger has the answers you seek.

[Anonymous No.16522182]

>>16522107
>>16521692
>woman: "Einstein contra Bergson: Who rapes me more by having existed?"

[Anonymous No.16522193]

>Hanna Arendt
>Simon Weil
>Martha Nussbaum
>Judith Butler
>Miranda Fricker
>Linda Zagzebski
>Mary Wollstonecraft
These are a few. Three of these are quite prominent in mainstream analytic philosophy. Most of them are Jewish, as one anon has noted. I think one of the reasons is that the sort of philosophy that women have been interested in is ghettoized to Women and Gender Studies departments. A lot of the time this ghetto is self-imposed. A slightly larger ghetto is women just talking about feminism or giving "feminist" perspectives in philosophy rather than being a female philosopher. If I could remember her name, there is one feminist prominent in like "care ethics" or whatever. One could argue that this might be something that a woman falls into because of stereotyping, but I don't think it necessarily has to be that way.
Butler talks about gender, but she isn't essentially feminist. She makes many feminists quite angry, actually, which is something I enjoy.
Most prominently I think Zagzebski breaks away from this in sticking mostly to epistemological topics. Fricker is in epistemology as well, her big thing is "testimonial injustice", which is probably adjacent to a lot of feminist-y topics.
Arendt can be interpreted as straight up anti-feminist in the way her political theory is more or less a rejection of the classic radfem dictum that "the personal is political" or whatever.

[Anonymous No.16522204]

>>16519949
Do you even virtue ethics, faggot?

[Anonymous No.16522210]

>>16522193
Also the Trolley Dilemma was literally developed by a woman, Philippa Foot. How could I forget. Brainlet OP.

[Anonymous No.16522212]

>>16522193
Who?

[Anonymous No.16522231]

>>16521692
find it difficult to believe that you've talked to that many women. even if you did i imagine they were porbably trolling you as it's pretty obvious you're a bitter incel

[Anonymous No.16522250]

>>16522193
>For example, in a defining moment in 1784, she convinced Eliza, who was suffering from what was probably postpartum depression, to leave her husband and infant; Wollstonecraft made all of the arrangements for Eliza to flee, demonstrating her willingness to challenge social norms. The human costs, however, were severe: her sister suffered social condemnation and, because she could not remarry, was doomed to a life of poverty and hard work
thanks a lot Mary

[Anonymous No.16522258]

>>16522250
Never said she was a particularly good person.

[Anonymous No.16522268]

Christine Korsgaard is one of the greats, possibly the best Kantian philosopher of the last 100 years. Also Sarah Broadie is my favourite living scholar on Plato.

[Anonymous No.16522318]

>>16522231
Reply to this picture without proving it right

[Anonymous No.16522588]

>>16522231
there it is folks

[Anonymous No.16522595]

>>16519949
women are literally incapable of thinking about anything but cock and pushing squealing infants out of their torn vaginas

[Anonymous No.16522629]

>>16522231
lmao

[Anonymous No.16523482]

>>16522231
Good boy!, now go show her how you defend her from the mean autistic 4chaners! You may even get laid this time! The fact that it would be your quadrillionth attempt means nothing, you will surely get her this time!!!

[Anonymous No.16523499]

>>16522231

[Anonymous No.16523523]

>>16521692
dangerously based and truthpilled

[Anonymous No.16523547]

>>16521692
not even an exaggeration. things are bad

[Anonymous No.16523671]

>>16520158
You can, many philosophers were more or less ignored while they lived and some, like Aurelius, didn't even write with an audience in mind.

[Anonymous No.16523673]

75 posts and no mention of Iris Murdoch or that fucking Descartes was BTFO by a woman in his letters.

[Anonymous No.16523680]

[Anonymous No.16523681]

>>16519949
Who cares?

[Anonymous No.16523946]

>>16523681
OP, that's why he started the thread.
And if you don't care, why are you here?

[Anonymous No.16523955]

>>16519949
Socrates would disagree.

[Anonymous No.16524007]

>>16522193
>No G.E.M Anscombe

[Anonymous No.16524009]

>>16523955
Are you saying there are no female philosophers because Socrates would disagree? What does that mean?

[Anonymous No.16524058]

>caring about race or gender in the current year

[Anonymous No.16524071]

>>16524009
Bruh have you not read Plato? Socrates teacher was of course the sage Diotima.

"Know Thyself".

[Anonymous No.16524152]

>>16521692
>tampons, pads, and ironclads

[Anonymous No.16524601]

>>16519949
There are, they just suck

[Anonymous No.16524620]

>>16519949
Females are npcs and literally none of the woman "philosophers" have anything of interest or value to add.
The wisest and most philosophical females are grannies who have lived long and arduous lives.
Some childless whore isn't going to have anything of substance. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.16524624]

>>16521865

After I found out that Lynn and Vanhanen literally made up over half of their IQ stats in the Wealth of Nations, I literally can't take them seriously anymore.

Especially when there is more genetic diversity in African than any other continent (it's where the majority of their made up stats were). Pure intellectual dishonesty.

[Anonymous No.16524658]

>>16524624
What are you talking about, the Wealth of Nations was written several hundred years before Lynn was born.

[Anonymous No.16524678]

>>16519949
>Who is Diotima
Socrates's tutor is the mother of Western Philosophy.

[Anonymous No.16524752]

who the fuck do i find to fall in love with if all women are mindless NPC drones then?
maybe being celibate is the way..

[Anonymous No.16524773]

>>16524752
Even if they weren't you'd have to settle for someone a lot more stupid than you anyway if you're intelligent.
2% of the population has an IQ of 130 or above so if you are pu want to settle with someone with that IQ or higher you'd have to reject 49/50 partners before anything else is considered.
This is ignoring the tighter distribution on the IQ spectrum women have and the slightly lower IQ.

You were doomed before you even began looking.

[Anonymous No.16524795]

Nobody respects them.

[Anonymous No.16524950]

Ayn Rand

[Anonymous No.16524957]

>>16521865
>first one is Lynn
He didn't take IQ tests. He just estimated them.

[Anonymous No.16524959]

>>16523499
it's a woman poster. you can tell by how retarded it is

[Anonymous No.16524968]

>>16524773
>thinks it's bad to settle for someone less intelligent than yourself
You sound pretty dumb so you're lucky

[Anonymous No.16524979]

>>16521879
I can believe this. Basically all the smartest and stupidest people I've known have been men.

[Anonymous No.16524980]

>>16524678
nooo women suck no this thread was for blatant misogyny

[Anonymous No.16524982]

>>16524968
I neither implied I'm intelligent nor that's its bad to settle for someone less intelligent than oneself.
I guess reading comprehension isn't your strong side.

[Anonymous No.16524984]

>>16521902
You forgot to attach pic related

[Anonymous No.16524986]

>>16524982
NTA but you're clearly contradicting yourself here
>nor that's its bad to settle for someone less intelligent than oneself
vs your earlier statement
>You were doomed before you even began looking.
Don't cherrypick your statements mate, the other anon is clearly right

[Anonymous No.16524992]

>>16520152
>theory
>philosophy
Anscombe and Barcan Marcus are the only real female philosophers.

[Anonymous No.16524995]

women can be smart, but very rarely they are innovative

[Anonymous No.16525003]

>>16522231
don't mind them anon, you're speaking into the void here. Pretty ironic for people who assume their inflated superiority and intellect are above others, which are based on blatant racism and sexism, when they cling onto flawed biases and beliefs

[Anonymous No.16525007]

>>16525003
absolutely seething lmao

[Anonymous No.16525016]

>>16524986
The guy I answered was taking about mindless NPC drones. To not be one you need to be intelligent.
I never contradicted myself.

[Anonymous No.16525049]

>>16525016
>To not be one you need to be intelligent.
>Even if they weren't [NPCs] you'd have to settle for someone a lot more stupid than you anyway if you're intelligent.
You didn't bring up intelligence as a prerequisite for not being an NPC but rather as another impediement in finding a partner. You're a backpeddling low iq retard with autistic intellectual acrobatics.

[Anonymous No.16525054]

>>16519949
>Men
>100 pages of the most eloquent sophisticated work with nuance and profound deepness
>Women
>300 page introduction

[Anonymous No.16525056]

>>16525007
I'm not even angry neither am I shocked. It's just the way the culture is around here, and it's just sad looking at the how high the ego can go. C'mon anon, be truthful and use your intellect in evaluating the situation around, you would be lying if it wasn't full of racism, sexism and tons of self-wallowing shit, but covered with a veneer of self-importance and false superiority. I want to provide support to the other anon poster, to let that person know they are alright.

[Anonymous No.16525060]

>>16525049
>You didn't bring up intelligence as a prerequisite for not being an NPC
I assumed it was obvious.

[Anonymous No.16525063]

>>16525003
>based on blatant racism and sexism
Well as long as it's BASED

[Anonymous No.16525074]

>thinking that all of woman philosophy of modern day muh vagina rants
>who was Hypatia

[Anonymous No.16525076]

>>16525056
Cease and desist from posting here you bitch ass nigga. Leddit and Twatter are waiting for you with open arms.

[Anonymous No.16525078]

>>16521835
Well she's still female. People also make that "genderless" writing claim about male philosophers.

>>16521865
>>16521879
I hear that a lot, but what are the actual differences in standard deviation? It wouldn't be hard to compute the actual probability of a woman being 130+ IQ vs a man instead of using this handwavy argument.

>>16521902
Anscombe, Hildegarde of Bingen.
You also forgot Martha Nussbaum, who wasn't born Jewish but converted later. At least apply yourself when /pol/posting.

>>16522048
Weinigger was a closeted self-hating homo, small wonder you like him.

[Anonymous No.16525092]

>>16525056
>full of racism, sexism and tons of self-wallowing shit
Yes.

[Anonymous No.16525106]

It's me. I was the one who kept all the female philosophers in my dungeon.

[Anonymous No.16525121]

>>16525003
>Whoa this consistently repeated pattern of behavior and cognitive thought that has existed since before inception of human civilization, does not equate into my critical thinking because it will offend the subject

Lowest demeanor of thought castration. Gimping you own thoughts and actions in the world so you can suck up to the people that are in statistics... YIKES

[Anonymous No.16525126]

>>16525003
go back

[Anonymous No.16525132]

>>16525056
>full of racism, sexism
All warranted. This is not twitter where sexism, racism, and fascism are synonymous with bad.

[Anonymous No.16525142]

>>16525121
They went after freedom of thought when they couldn't take anything else

[Anonymous No.16525148]

>>16525056
go back you limp wristed faggot

[Anonymous No.16525170]

>>16524678
Socrates had many tutors.

[Anonymous No.16525175]

>>16524678
>feminist history

[Anonymous No.16525187]

>>16521692
True

I remember when most of the girls on my unis campus signed up to play a role in our schools production of ‘The Vagina Monologues’

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Vagina_Monologues

[Anonymous No.16525193]

>>16525078
Source on Weininger being a closeted homosexual, self-hating or otherwise?

[Anonymous No.16525195]

>>16525187
women are an utter meme

[Anonymous No.16525202]

>>16525187
oof

[Anonymous No.16525224]

>>16525175
we wuz philosophers

[Anonymous No.16525236]

>>16520152
>listing some literal whos that no one cares about
Whoa, you realy showed everyone how smart and well read you are, pseud

[Anonymous No.16525240]

>>16520152
Only Sedgwick is good from here, but Adam Sedgwick

[Anonymous No.16525474]

>>16521692
This is what happens when you take the Weininger pill—I WANT TO GO BACK TO IGNORANCE BROS