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/sffg/ Science Fiction & Fantasy general Anonymous Fri Oct 2 19:04:15 2020 No.16495181 [Reply] [Original]

/sffg/ - October edition

Whatcha gonna be for Halloween?

Charts:
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>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 19:06:40 2020 No.16495192 >>16495181 Halloween reading should be Sorcerer's House or House on the Borderland. They're both set in mid/late autumn. Also, Sandershit a shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 19:15:14 2020 No.16495234 Third time this thread is posted without a linkback to the previous one. Stop.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 19:18:31 2020 No.16495244 >>16495234 Autism

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 19:22:03 2020 No.16495259 Honestly a Halloween reading chart is a good idea. Reply to this post with your favorite fantasy horror novels and I'll put one together

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 19:23:33 2020 No.16495266 >>16495234 they didn't do it in the last one and i just copied what was there. feel free to make the next thread yourself if you hate it so much kekkkk

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 19:26:04 2020 No.16495278 Wheres the discord?

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 19:27:27 2020 No.16495287

>>16495259
Not a huge horror fan but these are some of my favorites:

The King in Yellow
Shadow over Innsmouth
Jekyll and Hyde
Bunch of Steven Kings books like It

Also special mention to scp-3007 its fantastically written and evokes a lot of the same feelings as lovecraftian horror.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 19:27:56 2020 No.16495292 >>16495259 Peace House on the Borderland Boats of the Glen Carrig Arthur Gordon Pym Something Wicked this Way Comes Song of Kali

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 19:28:16 2020 No.16495296 >>16495278 This is the tranny-free general

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 19:33:04 2020 No.16495329 >>16495278 see >>16495266

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 19:36:30 2020 No.16495352 >>16495278 SFFG discord: https://discord.com/invite/KWPCM7m

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 20:00:05 2020 No.16495470 >>16495234 Then you do it, homofactualist

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 20:19:01 2020 No.16495558 >>16495266 >>16495470 How hard would it be to copy paste one line of digits for a general that's been running for years, like almost every other general in this website, you dumb lazy faggots.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 20:24:11 2020 No.16495580 >>16495558 >How hard would it be to copy paste Do it and tell me

Anonymous Fri Oct 2 20:24:50 2020 No.16495582

>>16495181
Some October Releases

NINA ALLAN • Ruby • Titan
ANONYMOUS, ED. • Escape Pod: The Science Fiction Anthology • Titan Books US
KELLEY ARMSTRONG • A Stitch in Time • Subterranean Press
ELIZABETH BEAR • Machine • Simon & Schuster/Saga Press
BEN BOVA • My Favorites • Blackstone Publishing
TERRY BROOKS • The Last Druid • Penguin Random House/Del Rey
P. DJÈLÍ CLARK • Ring Shout • Tor.com Publishing
JOHN CONNOLLY • The Dirty South • Simon & Schuster/Atria/Bestler
BRENDA COOPER • The Making War • WordFire Press
ELLEN DATLOW, ED. • The Best Horror of the Year, Volume Twelve • Skyhorse/Night Shade Books
ALIETTE DE BODARD • Seven of Infinities • Subterranean Press
CORY DOCTOROW • Attack Surface • Tor
C.S. FRIEDMAN • This Virtual Night • DAW
NEIL GAIMAN • A Neil Gaiman Reader • HarperCollins/Morrow
NEIL GAIMAN • Pirate Stew
PAULA GURAN, ED. • The Year’s Best Dark Fantasy & Horror: Volume One • Start/Pyr
PETER F. HAMILTON • The Saints of Salvation • Penguin Random House/Del Rey
ALIX E. HARROW • The Once and Future Witches • Orbit US/Redhook
ALICE HOFFMAN • Magic Lessons • Simon & Schuster
ALAYA DAWN JOHNSON • Reconstruction • Small Beer Press
STEPHEN JONES, ed. • Terrifying Tales • PS Publishing
CAITLÍN R. KIERNAN • The Tindalos Asset • Tor.com Publishing
T. KINGFISHER • The Hollow Places • Simon & Schuster/Saga Press
DEAN KOONTZ • Elsewhere • Amazon/Thomas & Mercer
URSULA K. LE GUIN • Annals of the Western Shore • Library of America
YOON HA LEE • Phoenix Extravagant • Rebellion/Solaris
CIXIN LIU • To Hold Up the Sky • Tor
TOM LLOYD • God of Night • Orion/Gollancz
GREGORY MAGUIRE • A Wild Winter Swan • HarperCollins/Morrow
MARSHALL RYAN MARESCA • People of the City • DAW
GRAHAM MASTERTON • The House of a Hundred Whispers • Head of Zeus
SEANAN MCGUIRE • Dying With Her Cheer Pants On: Stories of the Fighting Pumpkins • Subterranean Press
JAMES S. MURRAY & DARREN WEARMOUTH • Don’t Move • Blackstone Publishing
CHRISTOPHER PRIEST • The Evidence • Orion/Gollancz
PHILIP PULLMAN • Serpentine • Penguin Random House/Knopf
REBECCA ROANHORSE • Black Sun • Simon & Schuster/Saga Press
KIM STANLEY ROBINSON • The Ministry for the Future • Orbit US
MICHELLE SAGARA • The Emperor’s Wolves • Harlequin/Mira
ANDRZEJ SAPKOWSKI • The Tower of Fools • Orbit US
V.E. SCHWAB • The Invisible Life of Addie LaRue • Tor
CHARLES STROSS • Dead Lies Dreaming • Tor.com Publishing
JODI TAYLOR • Hard Time • Headline
MEGAN WHALEN TURNER • Return of the Thief • HarperCollins/Greenwillow
CARRIE VAUGHN • Kitty’s Mix-Tape • Tachyon Publications
IAN WHATES, ed. • London Centric: Tales of Future London • NewCon Press
DAVID WONG • Zoey Punches the Future in the Dick • St. Martin’s
JANE YOLEN • Midnight Circus • Tachyon Publications

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 20:25:45 2020 No.16495592 >>16495580 This previous dumb post: >>16495580 Very easy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 20:26:43 2020 No.16495598 >>16495181 Horror Literature General >>16485279

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 20:26:46 2020 No.16495600 >>16495558 no one really cares. i can't be arsed.

None !SFFG.n1h7M Fri Oct 2 20:28:20 2020 No.16495611
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>>16495181
The Fisherman - John Langan (2016)
It's October, so I thought I'd start off with a horror novel. The first 20% is a rather enjoyably and comfortably written slice of life - I had no problem with it. However, the author then concedes in his own writing how to better enjoy this bait and switch and why it's necessary. The next 50% is a story, the titular The Fisherman, being related to the reader and I was not amused to say the least. I simply couldn't find myself caring about it so it was quite the detriment for me. This is likely an atypical reaction and from what I can tell, most probably won't mind. The final 30% resumes the present-day story and I found myself enjoying it again, though not quite as much. I would have vastly preferred that the middle story had been vastly reduced or not included, or really for the book to have been entirely reworked. As it is, I felt as though I read two books that were inextricably linked and I had to read both but I only liked one of them. That I had the wrong expectations going into it didn't help. I had been expecting a modern day cosmic horror, which there is, but half of it is 1800s gothic horror, which isn't what I wanted. Initially the middle story gave me the feeling of Sleepy Hollow, but that was probably only a personal reaction, though Irving, along with various other literary references are explicitly mentioned. It ends up differently and more along the lines of cosmic horror. Considering the author says in the afterword that he worked on this for 12 years or so, I assume this is more or less how he wanted it to be. For the usual person who reads this, I think they'd enjoy it significantly more than I did, as it becomes increasingly clear to me that this literary mode isn't particularly suitable to my interests.
Rating: 3/5 (4 for present day, 2 for past)

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 20:57:21 2020 No.16495783 File: 99 KB, 354x512, 1601677644820[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone know some good pulp with Castlevania vibes?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 21:29:39 2020 No.16495944 >about to finish the next-to-last collection of stories in this overall series I've been reading no new material in six years, some plot lines had interesting setups but i reckon i'll never get a conclusion

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 21:40:19 2020 No.16495997 Humble Bundle has an R.A. Salvatore bundle with a shitload of his books. I'm apprehensive, an author that shits out that many books, they can't be better than a C- grade. https://www.humblebundle.com/books/salvatore-showcase

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 22:16:52 2020 No.16496165 >>16495997 It's forgotten realms the worst dnd novels. Funnily enough Salvatore is an alright author but the Forgotten Realms books are dogshit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:11:39 2020 No.16496765 Orbital resonance is finally getting to the point where it's good. Shame it took 2/3 of the book to get there and it had so much teen drama in it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:33:40 2020 No.16496875 >>16495558 Why do people get triggered by this? It makes zero difference.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:35:07 2020 No.16496882
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>protag was once engaged to antagonist
>left her at the altar because he's afraid of marriage
>she tries to kill herself
>survives but miscarries their child
>protag is now full of righteous fury about how she "killed their child"
>the one he had openly abandoned
I really hate this guy. He also lied to a different ex imprisoned in a monastery about how he'd come back to save her so he could get info out of her. I feel like the author doesn't understand that there's a difference between writing a cad and a sociopath.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:42:47 2020 No.16496939 >>16495783 Probably The Castle of Otranto or The Mysteries of Udolpho Romance era gothic horror might be what you're looking for

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:48:03 2020 No.16496975 >>16496875 Some people are actually on the spectrum. Especially in nerd circles like ours

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:50:42 2020 No.16496990 >>16496975 Why do people even link the previous thread in the first place? What utility does it offer?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:52:29 2020 No.16497006 >>16495259 Homebody

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:54:25 2020 No.16497014

>>16496990
If you asked a question near the end of the last thread you might want to go back and check if anyone answered.

>>16496875
> Why do people get triggered by this?
People will get triggered over anything. I made the thread a couple times and someone had an autistic meltdown because I added a discord link.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:55:03 2020 No.16497015 >>16497014 >I made the thread a couple times and someone had an autistic meltdown because I added a discord link. this one's fair, tho

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 00:56:15 2020 No.16497023 >>16497014 >because I added a discord link. That's perfectly justified considering the first time it happened, it started getting linked on reddit and the threads devolved into absolute nonsense for at least 3 weeks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:23:36 2020 No.16497118 File: 66 KB, 485x227, 1593546880889.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Book 51 What

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:24:52 2020 No.16497123 >>16497118 Might be a multi-person pseudonym, but might also just not give a shit about quality.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:46:23 2020 No.16497233 >>16497023 >it started getting linked on reddit wrong >and the threads devolved into absolute nonsense for at least 3 weeks. ... because an autist was triggered and had a meltdown. Tranny-anon is still here: >>16495296

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:48:55 2020 No.16497242 >>16497233 Let me assure you that I am the poster you linked and that I was not around for whatever hullabaloo someone else created. It's just common knowledge that discord is for trannies.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:56:46 2020 No.16497273 >>16497242 Oh so you're just continuing the tradition of nonsense shitposting, that's so much better. Fuck off, tranny-anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:58:18 2020 No.16497282 >>16495181 Fuck E William Brown

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 02:19:29 2020 No.16497376 >>16492826 Is this one of you guys? Surely not, right?

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:17:31 2020 No.16497550
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>>16496939
Honestly I'm looking for more stuff like noble, heroic monster-hunters having adventures in gothic locales like huge castles and the like while battling classic evils like vampires and ghouls

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:21:24 2020 No.16497558

>>16497550
Sounds like the Kormak series, by William King.
>Main character is a monster hunter initiated into an order of monster hunters
>He hunts monsters in gothic locales
Started with a short story called Guardian of the Dawn, but I can't find that anywhere online except in the omnibus.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:33:45 2020 No.16497592 >>16497550 >>16497558 Oh wait, here it is. http://www.williamking.me/2012/04/18/the-guardian-of-the-dawn/

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 03:35:28 2020 No.16497598 >>16497550 You might wanna check out Solomon Kane.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 05:44:03 2020 No.16497970 >>16497550 What the anon above me said and Elric of Melnibone

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 07:41:05 2020 No.16498372

>>16495181
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/10/publishers-worry-as-ebooks-fly-off-libraries-virtual-shelves/

>Checkouts of digital books from a popular service are up 52% since March.
Ebooks are the only way for the true sff.

>Sarah does almost all of her reading on her phone
>In 2020, she estimates, she has read 150 books.
DO YOU EVEN READ? Why can't you be Sarah?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 08:03:53 2020 No.16498444 >>16498372 this is weird isnt it? Amazon sales and KU revenue supposedly is up 80% shouldnt publishers be happy about that?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 08:05:01 2020 No.16498451 >>16498444 >shouldnt publishers be happy about that? Why would publishers be happy that they're losing business to self published titles? KU is pretty much entirely self published works with the occasional classic that Amazon licensed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 08:11:05 2020 No.16498469 >>16498451 KU is only a part of amazon. ebook sales as a whole are up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 08:39:48 2020 No.16498548 File: 44 KB, 639x480, 043B4584-A36D-4383-8860-03888F9DA4F1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16498372 >reading books on your phone

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 09:27:49 2020 No.16498716 Are there actually any good nazi occult novels?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 09:32:14 2020 No.16498739 >>16498548 I primarily read on an Amazon Kindle:registered: and they have been times when WhisperSync:tm: has allowed me to get a few pages read on my phone when waiting somewhere

None !SFFG.n1h7M Sat Oct 3 09:44:24 2020 No.16498814
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>>16495181
Station Eleven - Emily St. John Mandel (2014)
This is a story of various individuals who were mostly at the same location at the same time for the same reasons, and how they lived before, then, and after humanity all but perished. Events are presented nonlinearly and shift between several viewpoints over the course of roughly 50 years. This ranges from roughly 30 years before, detailing the youth of the character who dies in the opening pages and whom every other viewpoint character is directly connected to in some way, to 20 years after. The apocalypse matters less than you may expect, as majority of the after events take place 20 years later, the present, when the world has settled into relative peace, which is to say it's one of the the most peaceful post-apocalypses that I can recall. There are references to the horrific early years, but it's not explored at all except for the immediate aftermath and at a location that seems entirely unaffected by the turbulence.
This is not a story of great people doing great things, or of action, adventure, or otherwise much anything exciting at all. The present is a slice-of-life of a caravan traveling through a region which is in the process of rebuilding following 99%+ of the humanity having died out. The past is how they lived before. Because it's presented nonlinearly, I'm not certain, but I think considerably more time is spent before the apocalypse than afterwards. If you come looking for a plot, or really anything other than a study of lives lived, then you'll likely be disappointed. I'm surprised this did as well it did, considering it does have some genre tropes which by default often excludes it from being considered "literature", but they are so minimal as to likely not appeal to those reading it as "science fiction" or even as post-apocalyptic fiction. It's simply speculative fiction I suppose.
This is something I had been looking for to read and I hope I find more similar to it. It's not exactly what I wanted, though are many moderate issues I have it, but they don't detract much for me overall. I will be reading more from this author and I await the HBO miniseries that is in production ought to release sometime within a couple years.
Rating: 4/5

This is the limited edition cover, as I dislike the standard edition cover.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 10:08:21 2020 No.16498927 >>16498716 This is a tranny free general

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 10:52:42 2020 No.16499133

>>16496990
If you weren't a complete retard you would see it gives an easy way to access the last thread, while also in case somebody wishes to see it
>inb4 just search the archive lol
Trying to make things more convenient for people is literally one of the main functions of a general.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 12:07:09 2020 No.16499443 What you faggots reading?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 12:23:45 2020 No.16499533 Anyone got any audible recommendations? I'm curious about the climate for contemporary fantasy/sci-fi as I'm an erotica writer looking to break into a more tasteful territory.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 12:27:32 2020 No.16499552 >>16499533 Not sure what you're looking for. Just a audiobook with a good narrator? Something that's sold really well on Audible? Info on how to get on Audible?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 12:28:20 2020 No.16499558 >>16499552 Just something popular, contemporary, and not so horrible that I'll hate listening to it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 12:29:41 2020 No.16499567 >>16499558 Dresden Files is probably your best bet.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 12:30:37 2020 No.16499568

>>16499567
I've already listened to those. I think Dresden Files is somewhat dated from the standpoint of someone looking to break into the industry. The newer pieces have been grandfathered in by a preexisting fanbase that just wants to see how it ends.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 12:33:29 2020 No.16499585 >>16499568 City of Brass is popular I think

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 13:14:29 2020 No.16499810 >>16495181 kellhus is a fucking faggot

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 13:20:24 2020 No.16499841 >>16499810 No that's Cnaiur

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 13:31:12 2020 No.16499887 >>16499841 Cnaiur is at least interesting, I found myself only liking Conphas of all people by the end. Shitty series piss on whoever reccomended it

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 13:37:52 2020 No.16499924

>>16499568
>. I think Dresden Files is somewhat dated from the standpoint of someone looking to break into the industry.
Dated? How so? His writing is not bad, clearly there are substance issues with mc but writing itself is not bad, it definetely isn't dated.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 13:40:36 2020 No.16499941 >>16498372 >ebooks fly off libraries virtual shelves What in actual fuck?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 13:49:06 2020 No.16499982 >>16499924 What it takes to get published now and what it took to get published 20 years ago is pretty different.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 13:50:22 2020 No.16499986 >>16499982 This is true, I don't think Storm Front has even one gay or brown person in it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 13:57:38 2020 No.16500026 Is it worth reading Isaac Asimov?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 14:04:07 2020 No.16500060 >>16500026 I quite enjoyed audiobook of The Gods Themselves, Scott Brick really delivers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 14:09:21 2020 No.16500092 >>16499982 you have to be hardcore leftish sjw shill to get published, why don't you want to self publish, if you care only about the money and not the quality of your work hence the need to get published then you can just gtfo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 14:12:22 2020 No.16500105 >>16500026 Yes, he is considered the best most prolific author of sic-fi for a reason.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 14:16:46 2020 No.16500120 >>16499986 haha, imagine an author trying to publish his book with name like Stormfront in 2020

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 15:10:16 2020 No.16500400

>>16499810
seeing into Kellhus thoughts or rather, motivations, (in his chapters) was a big mistake IMO
If he's on such another level compared to normal humans, don't let his voice be: muh father and muh logos
I don't get why Bakker didn't just leave him more of a blank, incomprehensible

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 15:16:42 2020 No.16500423 Is there a modern PKD?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 15:22:51 2020 No.16500451 >>16500026 Do you like reading about men talking in grey rooms?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 15:24:43 2020 No.16500467 File: 248 KB, 970x1600, PEACE.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How many people did he kill?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 16:50:51 2020 No.16500956 >>16500467 i can never get into it. i love gene wolfe and read almost all of his works but with this one I just stop like 10% in. help

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 17:01:30 2020 No.16501025 >>16496882 I told you Chris Wooding is shit, yet you faggots like to be contrary and read anyway. Enjoy the bed you made and lie in it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 17:02:02 2020 No.16501026 >>16501025 I didn't see your post, I'm sorry, you're absolutely in the correct.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 17:03:46 2020 No.16501046 File: 2.64 MB, 3500x3500, 1561589251388.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16499533 So you want smut?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 17:03:55 2020 No.16501047 >>16500467 TANG A N G

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 17:05:46 2020 No.16501061 File: 39 KB, 368x451, 1594421073784.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What do you read besides fantasy?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 17:07:16 2020 No.16501070 >>16501061 Sometimes scifi, sad panda, 4chan posts on sffg. That's about it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 17:09:03 2020 No.16501086 File: 23 KB, 390x210, 76543542.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How are you doing with your challenge anon? will you be able to finish what you promised to this year?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 17:37:31 2020 No.16501262 >>16500026 No. Literally a meme writer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 17:40:43 2020 No.16501290 >>16501061 Whatever I feel like.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 17:41:39 2020 No.16501300 >>16501061 chink novels with female protagonists. cause theyre more vicious than male protags.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 17:41:45 2020 No.16501301 >>16501086 Yes, I've surpassed starting this month. It's a lot more than yours.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 17:43:16 2020 No.16501312 >>16501070 You don't read any news or articles otherwise?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 17:45:14 2020 No.16501325 >>16501312 Nope. Why should I care about what happens in the world? I wouldn't be escaping the world through fantasy if I cared what was going on, I would be in pol shitting up like the others.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 17:46:15 2020 No.16501330 >>16501086 I'm 80 of 60 books. Still have 15 to update. Cba editing goodreads atm.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 18:27:46 2020 No.16501548 >>16501330 That's why you have it automatically update for you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 19:07:24 2020 No.16501717 >>16501548 How? I don't use a kindle, and even if I did, i wouldn't link it to my goodreads account. I have to manually update what I read, and I'm months behind the task.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 19:43:31 2020 No.16501885 How do you fags download from https://www.audiobookx.com? It's no longer free and you have to pay.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 19:49:43 2020 No.16501915 >>16499810 shut up akka you cuck

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 19:50:02 2020 No.16501918 >>16501885 Use a different site then.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 19:57:18 2020 No.16501954 >>16501918 Other places don't put out books as fast as that site. It releases before private too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 20:06:16 2020 No.16501987 >>16498927 that's clearly untrue

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 20:09:42 2020 No.16502007 >>16500092 >im so mad online

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 20:25:06 2020 No.16502069 >>16500026 At the very least, read the Foundation trilogy. The rest is hit or miss but you should at least try that one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 20:25:58 2020 No.16502073 Ewolfe

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 20:27:08 2020 No.16502082

>>16501885
that site was never free.
they have periods where they allow people to download things for free. use myanonamouse or audiobook bay like everyone else you can use free services like sonicbit if you dont want to directly torrent with audiobook bay.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 20:33:09 2020 No.16502105

>>16502069
Problem is that trilogy leaves you hungry for more.
I, Robot is a good set of thought experiments apropos Robots entering human society and the three laws. Can be read standalone.
Caves of Steel is also worth a read, the main source of material for the Will Smith I, Robot movie.

Pebble in the Sky would be a good Asimov to start with. You follow a character flung into the future so you learn about the galaxy alongside him. A good jumping point for the foundation trilogy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 20:40:46 2020 No.16502153 >>16501061 history

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 20:44:02 2020 No.16502176 >>16502105 The empire and elijah bailey series are definitely all worth a read as a whole. Even more so than foundation IMO.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 20:48:30 2020 No.16502202 >>16501061 Biplane by Richard Bach Synners by Pat Cadigan subcriptions to Wired, National Geographic (got the magazine sub for my mom but I read the site occasionally) pcgamer, tomshardware, gaming sites, /x/, /hr/, /o/, /g/, /gif/, plebbit /blog

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 21:03:27 2020 No.16502292 >>16499533 >>16499558 We are Legion We are Bob or Walking to Aldebaran

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 21:09:35 2020 No.16502323 File: 263 KB, 1024x768, 372.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any books with a race like Orcs, that rape and kill everywhere they go?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 21:12:11 2020 No.16502335 >>16502292 >Walking to Aldebaran How much bug sex?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 21:14:20 2020 No.16502348 >>16502335 none, but a spoiler there is technically vore

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 21:18:04 2020 No.16502379 >>16502323 not in western literature.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 21:28:10 2020 No.16502435 >>16502082 Mam nor audiobay has the books I want, that site has it though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 21:29:30 2020 No.16502444 >>16502348 With a spider? I know he has a spider fetish.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 21:31:16 2020 No.16502456 >>16502435 then use dc++ literally the entire audible library is on there uploaded moments after something has been released. search for the doghouse.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 21:33:23 2020 No.16502472 >>16502435 They want profit. The free is hoping people become dependent on them and just pay. They are probably buying the audiobooks themselves.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 21:38:03 2020 No.16502498 >>16502456 But that would require someone to have minor competence and a few other things.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 21:45:29 2020 No.16502537 Reading Dresden Files. Remind me again. How many courts of vampires are there, and what do they eat? Red court, black court, white court???

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 21:47:58 2020 No.16502548 >>16502498 >>16502456 I thought it's harder to get into the dawghouse now? Perfection is password protected, and a bunch of other shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 21:49:00 2020 No.16502552 >>16502537 Red are mexican vamps that eat blood. Black are traditional Bram Stoker White are actually just incubi/succubi Jade probably eat chi, but I don't think we've met any

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 21:50:33 2020 No.16502563 >>16502552 >Black are traditional Bram Stoker So they eat blood too?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 21:51:24 2020 No.16502566 >>16502563 Yeah, but they have all the traditional weaknesses and strengths whereas Red is Dresden-universe unique as far as I'm aware.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 21:58:56 2020 No.16502604 >>16500956 >reddit spacing >filtered so easily pottery

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 22:10:15 2020 No.16502662 >>16501061 Sci-fi, history, other non fiction

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 22:14:10 2020 No.16502686
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>>16501086
Technically already have since I can't track everything I read through goodreads.
>>16501717
I 100% agreed with you until
>months behind
no excuse for your laziness
>>16500423
I wish
>>16501061
sci-fi
manga

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 22:24:27 2020 No.16502729 File: 13 KB, 378x206, book.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16501086 Depends on what really counts as it could be a lot lower than what it says if various types of books are excluded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 22:31:54 2020 No.16502759 >>16502552 >Jade probably eat chi, but I don't think we've met any You mean like those hopping vampires in chink myths?

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 22:38:03 2020 No.16502790

>>16502686
>I 100% agreed with you until
>>months behind
>no excuse for your laziness
I have reviews to update. I have a review for every book I read. It takes time to clean up my scribbles into goodreads. I'm no longer NEET. I'm a wagecuck. I find other things to do instead of updating my backlog. 15+ reviews with fresh ones added every weeks adds up. I want to clean the slate though. Don't want 2021 to reach me with all these unfinished updates.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 22:44:40 2020 No.16502818 >>16502790 Not him but i see what you mean. I just don't bother writing reviews for that exact reason, I'm not a aspiring writer I just want to read, I rate them on my personal catalog then on good reads and I'm done.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 22:50:49 2020 No.16502845

>>16502818
I don't do full wordy reviews waxing poetic about the novels. It's just bits and pieces that would help me remember what I read and how I felt years later. I read 2k+ books, you start forgetting minor pieces or mixing up books. Having a little scribble goes a long way.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 23:08:34 2020 No.16502912 >>16498548 You may be retarded. It doesn't matter at all whether it's an e-ink device, computer screen, phone or a paper book (unless you have weak eyes, but then the problem is with you, not with the healthier people).

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 23:08:50 2020 No.16502913 >>16502759 Yeah, I've always assumed that's what he was intending to base the Jade Court on.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 23:18:36 2020 No.16502950

>>16498548
>Get stuck doing something that takes longer than it should which is everything
>Loves waiting in line
>Already played your daily games, read the interesting sites
>not having e-books on your phone with fiction you want to check out and reference material
ishygddt.mobi

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 23:27:17 2020 No.16502972 File: 113 KB, 301x301, 1346373568813.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16502950 If only there were some sort of portable device designed for reading

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 23:28:12 2020 No.16502977 File: 148 KB, 371x353, munch_munch.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16502972 >carrying an extra computer with you everywhere when the one you have to carry anyway already does the job

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 23:31:03 2020 No.16502990 >>16502972 I have a Kindle and an iPad but I'm not going to carry them everywhere >implying you don't read your phone for hours a day already

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 23:34:02 2020 No.16502999 >https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F7QQG9P Is it a rule that you MUST write arbitrarily lengthy series if you want to be successful as an author named Terry?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 23:37:00 2020 No.16503013 File: 17 KB, 351x512, 1598290763444.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16499887 >I found myself only liking Conphas of all people by the end glad someone else knows Conphas was the only real one

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 23:38:14 2020 No.16503018 >>16502990 Speak for yourself phonebrain

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 23:40:04 2020 No.16503027 >>16502990 project harder, normalfag trash >not bringing his kindle everywhere your ilk is disgusting

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 00:39:32 2020 No.16503292 Daniel Black 5 never. Fuck E William Brown

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 00:40:42 2020 No.16503296 >>16502977 >damaging your eyes when you could preserve them

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 00:41:58 2020 No.16503301 >>16502990 I'm not a phoneposting faggot like you. Neck yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 01:18:23 2020 No.16503446 Anons, please recommend books on the dying Earth genre. I have read the following so far: BotNS Dying of the Earth, sagas of cugel, rhialto Viriconium Dying of the light, Windhaven

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 01:36:49 2020 No.16503515 >>16502790 >>16502818 >>16502845 I only write reviews on amazon and only if the book is bad.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 03:18:04 2020 No.16503881 >>16503446 Clark Ashton Smith's Zothique stories.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 03:32:18 2020 No.16503910 >>16503446 How's Viriconium? I've always been curious about the title and cover for Pastel City. To answer your question, a while ago some anon recommended Cage of Souls.

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 04:02:40 2020 No.16503975

>>16503881
thanks anon, i am currently reading the works of c a smith but have yet to come across any story set in (on?) zothique. Don't get me wrong, he is a masterful storyteller, but there were no stories on the proto-dying earth genre in the doors to saturn, which I was primarily hoping for.
>>16503910
Viriconium has excellent and wistful prose throughout, though it starts of slow. The story is light on details about the characters but is extremely dense in the worldbuilding aspect at the same time for the first three books. The situation is reversed for the last book, where there is a lot of information on the characters and very little about the larger world, which is markedly constricting compared to the initial books. Read for the prose, if nothing else, they are a treat to read.
Thanks for the rec, will check it out. I tried reading tchaikovsky's shadow of the apt, but could not get through the first book, maybe i'll fare better with this work.

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 04:15:33 2020 No.16504004

>>16503975
Cool. I'll check it out since I'm a prose fag.
I know the guy from Cage of Souls has written in a few different subgenres but the only reference I have of his writing is from Children of Time which is SF. He has some cool concepts in that book, at least pretty original, but the writing itself was kinda annoying.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 04:18:35 2020 No.16504012 A must-read is A Night In the Lonesome October, by Roger Zelazny. It has 32 chapters, each of which takes place on one day of October, with the last chapter taking place on November 1st.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 04:57:38 2020 No.16504134 >>16503975 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zothique#Stories http://eldritchdark.com/writings/short-stories/

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 06:43:33 2020 No.16504419 File: 45 KB, 196x301, sheepman.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16503018 >>16503027 >>16503301 >sperging over what a redditor is posting from

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 09:24:43 2020 No.16504909 >>16504419 you sound like a Phoneposter yourself, faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 09:54:24 2020 No.16505025 I'd really like to read a nice, long sci-fi book to read in bed now that the nights are getting longer and it's starting to get cold.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 09:59:52 2020 No.16505046 >>16500400 Are you retarded?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 10:14:03 2020 No.16505092 Can you suggest me sci-fi books with a mystery vibe or horror elements? (but not horror)

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 10:27:15 2020 No.16505136 >>16505025 Well, what's stopping you?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 10:32:42 2020 No.16505155 File: 79 KB, 754x1158, 1538763487047.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16505136 I would like suggestions

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 10:33:21 2020 No.16505157

>>16505092
Hyperion, the first novella. About the priest. Stop after that: book turns to incoherent Mary Sue shit which is trying to be deep with religious references but fails. I read two books hoping for some resolution to that clusterfuck, but all I got was 'dude, power of love and female Jesus lmao'.

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 10:39:10 2020 No.16505181

>>16505155
You seem like someone who hasn't read many sci-fi books. Start with the Greeks... In this case Greeks being Dune, Hyperion, Asimov and basically all the classics which usually get recommended. You might not enjoy them as much as you hope to, they might even seem dated, but you must know what they're about so you could truly understand and appreciate how the genre developes later on. But if you're a peb who just wants some escapism and fanservice, better grab some manga or capeshit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 10:41:04 2020 No.16505188 >>16505092 Eisenhorn series is both mystery and has elements of horror. Pros is that there's countless other books in the same universe to read if you like that series

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 12:35:43 2020 No.16505761 Is the Amber series by Zelanzy any good? I've read Lord of Light and liked it. If it's good, is the Chronicles of Amber good enough or do I need the Great book of Amber? I'm worried the quality drops off.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 12:47:32 2020 No.16505826 >>16495582 thank

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 12:50:56 2020 No.16505842

>>16505761
The first series of Amber is good but it emphasizes adventure more than depth. Chronicles is all you need unless you get really into his worldbuilding. The second series is very sequelly. He tries to add more elements but the plot gets muddled and its conclusion is weak.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 12:58:55 2020 No.16505893 >>16505181 Swallow your shotgun and go back to outer lit. You pretentious fuck.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 13:05:22 2020 No.16505933 >Neal Asher Where do I start? Do I start? Liking the sounds of stuff on the backs of like book 8 to 12, heh

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 13:07:16 2020 No.16505942 >>16505025 >>16505155 what are your favorite books, tv shows, movies, animus, etc?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 13:08:14 2020 No.16505950 >>16505933 Look at the Neal Asher chart.

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 13:11:47 2020 No.16505963

i read the choice of magic since i got memed by this thread. It had some good elements (mostly the fights and magic system) but the author is obviously extremely autistic and also just bad at writing so i probably wouldnt recommend it. Anyone have some other magic power up trash to recommend, preferably with no harem cringiness.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 13:35:21 2020 No.16506070 >>16505933 I started with the Agent Cormac Series. That's Prador Moon and Shadow of the Scorpion, I think.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 13:35:34 2020 No.16506073 >>16505963 the goddamn cat though

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 13:37:22 2020 No.16506081
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The Lies of Locke Lamora was really good. Thanks for that recommendation.

I really liked the structure of the book. It found a nice balance between exposition and moving the plot along. Every few chapters, there's an "interlude" chapter. Which is a short vignette, featuring characters or organizations or some other aspect of the world that is relevant to the upcoming chapters. So you get your introduction to these concepts in this inconsequential bubble, before the story continues. This way, characters don't have to forcibly explain concepts in the main plot. You already know how it works from the interlude, so you can just go on.

And unlike other fantasy novels where the interludes are just boring lore dumps, or some lame scripture from their internal religion, or a poem, or some bullshit that's uninteresting, THIS book's interludes actually feature characters of the main plot doing something intriguing.

I have to say though, that what I don't like is how much time they invested building up some far away love interest who never shows up. Did I miss something? Or was her plotline just kind of dropped? I guess it was just some world building for later books? I only finished the first book.

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 13:37:29 2020 No.16506082

>>16505963
>preferably with no harem cringiness.
You will only have kiddie books like Choice of Magic. Almost every power fantasy has a harem shit.
Check this shit. Almost all the fantasy in there is power fantasy... But a lot of them have harem shit >>16501046

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 13:39:17 2020 No.16506093 >>16505963 >Anyone have some other magic power up trash to recommend, preferably with no harem cringiness. You read Unsouled yet? If not, then you're in for a treat.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 13:39:45 2020 No.16506097 >>16505842 Thx. Gonna go with Chronicles then.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 13:45:34 2020 No.16506127 >>16506081 Oh yeah, and it had a top quality audiobook narrator. Michael Page Good at his job. Well acted.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 13:47:31 2020 No.16506133 >>16505942 I like stuff like The Count of Monte Cristo, long TV shows etc. like HBO series with a slow burning plot and character development.

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 13:59:13 2020 No.16506186

>>16506081
I feel like I should say more about this book, but I can't think of anything, because it's all so solid. Like I have nothing to complain about. The characters were good, the plot was good, I was invested the entire way through.

I guess I am a little curious about the distinction between adult fantasy and young adult fantasy? Because this book has dodged the young adult label. And yet, the only real difference I can see between this book and other like it, is that this book has hard curse words like fuck and bitch. And I guess they talk about trading more than other YA novels??? Is that it? If characters talk about tax policies, then it becomes an adult book?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 14:01:06 2020 No.16506199 >>16506093 Ive read unsouled and all of currently published sequels, definitely enjoyed them. Ive also read a lot of chinkshit but have run out now

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 14:05:09 2020 No.16506215

>>16506186
Nah, it's just cursewords and sex. Django Wexler's work is the best way to understand since he's done kids stuff, teen stuff, and adult. The kid books use some simplified vocabulary, but the only difference between his teen and adult books is the curses.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 14:05:12 2020 No.16506216 >>16505092 Most stuff by Alastair Reynolds. Take your pick.

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 14:05:27 2020 No.16506217

>>16506186
It has some really pathetic simpy shit later which kills my enjoyment of the series. Why dont most fantasy writers realize they cant do romance? Like just dont try to write it if you cant do it god damn. You can even put it in the story just dont spend much time on it and for the love of good dont have the main character mooning after some epic strong woman archetype its the most onions shit imaginable and its in so many fantasy books. I guess the genre is written by and for bugmen but its so tiresome

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 14:08:58 2020 No.16506229 Anyone here read The Fisherman? Finished it today and thought it was disappointing, don't really get the hype. The writing style is so awfully New-American it hurts. 2/5

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 14:12:01 2020 No.16506240 >>16506133 Try Three Body Problem. It's very simply written but the scale is big

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 14:23:19 2020 No.16506303

>>16506217
So I'm guessing the far away love interest comes back after all? Locke was simping over some chick in the first book. Don't confirm or deny, I'll find out when I get there. I'm not opposed to romance plots. With anything, it can go good or bad depending on the author's ability to write it. But yeah, I really do hate that thing where the man goes stupid over some supposed strong woman who treats him like shit. The whole femme fatale trope really grinds my gears.

I hope they don't do that with Locke. I'm kind of expecting Locke's love interest from the first book to be this highly skilled thief. And the fact that she's never around tells me that their affections are somewhat one-sided. So I'm kind of expecting Locke to be too lovestruck to rival her, and she'll just be shitting all over him for the entire book, until he finally wises up and takes her down. But because she's a woman, she'll still manage to come out unharmed in the end. Because it's an unwritten rule when writing female counterparts, that they can never lose entirely. And if all that is the case, I'm going to hate it. I hope they defy my expectations. Like when they killed Nazca. Honestly, I feel like that character was wasted, because they spent time building her up. Only to have her wiped out the the story so quickly and unceremoniously. But they sure as hell shocked me by taking the strong female counterpart and completely dunking on her. Or in her case, dunking her corpse in a barrel of horse piss.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 14:24:21 2020 No.16506309 >>16506303 You really ought to just quit with book one, it only gets much worse from here.

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 14:27:11 2020 No.16506321

>>16506309
Haha, I'm going to take that to mean that my predictions were at least partially true. Well I'm still going to try it out myself. No offense, but anons have told me to stop reading other series before, but I continued regardless and enjoyed myself. So I'll see what's what with book 2.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 14:29:35 2020 No.16506339 >>16506303 >the spoilers ok i was going to read that book but now i just want to vomit and i'll take a pass thanks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 14:34:59 2020 No.16506369 >>16506339 What, really? That's really not so bad. That's about as gross as the story gets too. That's the one big "holy shit that's fucked up!" moment in the entire book. The rest is pretty tame.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 14:36:54 2020 No.16506382 >>16505893 Seethe more, weeb

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 14:38:39 2020 No.16506387

>>16506229
I read it a few months ago and had a similar reaction. There were parts that I enjoyed, but I agree there was something about the writing style that rendered the work kind of bland. The ending bit with the friend showing up to get revenge or whatever felt like some crap out of a bad horror movie.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 14:44:17 2020 No.16506414 >>16506369 Well I guess if the rest of the book isn't grimdark like that then ok maybe. Just the barrel itself is gross enough. Imagine the smell.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 14:46:03 2020 No.16506423 >>16506133 I'm a big fan of Neal Stephenson's The Diamond Age, it's long and comfy, lots of character development and interesting worldbuilding.

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 14:49:24 2020 No.16506437

>>16506414
Yeah, nah, this isn't a grimdark book at all. That was just a big shocker. The book is actually pretty whimsical. Like some weird mix of Peter Pan and Robin Hood. Which is why I was confused by the lacking YA label. But I guess the scene I described doesn't fit a YA book. I didn't think of that before. Stuff like that is more adult oriented.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 15:25:38 2020 No.16506681 File: 59 KB, 296x475, foundation-Empire.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is Foundation and Empire better than Foundation? I found Foundation to be overly political and boring

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 16:10:31 2020 No.16506980 Why aren’t any of you joining the discord?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 16:19:04 2020 No.16507019 >>16506980 >discord I don't know what this is and I don't want to know.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 16:45:24 2020 No.16507149 >>16507019 That’s where the trannies are

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 17:22:38 2020 No.16507317

>>16506980
Because I really don't want to talk to you that much? I don't have more to say than what a few posts on 4chan allows me to say. As soon as I exhaust all my talking points, I'm going to hate the fact that I'm in your presence. And the moment you try to get close to me and make friends, I'm going to ignore you.
I don't care what you look like, how you sound, or what you like on your toast. And I sure as hell don't want to hear your political beliefs or sexual fetishes.

So I ask you: What is in it for me to join the discord?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 17:26:56 2020 No.16507328 >>16506980 id rather read than listen to a bunch of furries erp about who they wanna knot in whichever sanderson book they like.

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 17:35:04 2020 No.16507362

>>16506980
the discord has 247 members, this thread only has 62 posters. everyone has joined already.

>>16507149
you're the only tranny shitposter, and you're not in the discord, so...

>>16507317
you can treat discord like an auto-refreshing 4chan thread. making a post every now and then, then going back to lurking, is fine.
> And I sure as hell don't want to hear your political beliefs or sexual fetishes.
great, on discord we don't have the trannyposter

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 17:39:23 2020 No.16507390 >>16506681 If you didn't like foundation you probably won't like the sequel. If you aren't invested in the plan there is little else making you attached to the universe.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 17:40:53 2020 No.16507396 >>16507362 link

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 17:44:53 2020 No.16507419

>>16507362
What are you a newfag? 4chan already auto refreshes. Enable the native extension, or get 4chanX.
I already post every now and then and lurk. So basically discord does nothing I can't already do on 4chan. It's useless to me.

I've tried various discord servers before. Not specifically any from /sffg/. But just generally speaking, servers from various places. They're all just hangouts for personal talk ultimately. They lure you in with common interests, and then once you're inside, they want to talk about other shit. Maybe you don't have any trannies. But I'm sure some needy nerds are talking about their personal lives in their. Or sharing other interests?

What are you channels? You got a politics section? A meme section? Video games? Porn? In what way will your discord devolve?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 17:49:19 2020 No.16507445 >>16506980 I'm not a tranny

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 17:49:46 2020 No.16507448 >wanting to discuss sff with 247 non-4channeing newfags nah

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 17:56:55 2020 No.16507499 >>16506980 fuck off fed I'm not willingly giving you any more of my info.

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 17:58:04 2020 No.16507506

>>16507396
>link
>>16495352
>SFFG discord: https://discord.com/invite/KWPCM7m

>>16507419
>They're all just hangouts for personal talk ultimately
4chan has a lot of boards dedicated to personal talk, and you can ignore all of them. it's not hard to do the same on discord.

> What are you channels? You got a politics section? A meme section? Video games? Porn? In what way will your discord devolve?
we've got 3/4 of those, the server has indeed devolved to become more like 4chan. idk man, it's like you're saying that the existence of >>>/v/ has an effect on your enjoyment of /sffg/.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 18:03:11 2020 No.16507532 >>16506081 shame each book gets subsequently worse

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 18:04:15 2020 No.16507538 >>16507506 I genuinely wish you gay niggers would stop trying to force your circle jerk clubhouse in these threads. It adds literally nothing of value

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 18:07:11 2020 No.16507558

>>16507506
Users crossposting from /pol/ ruin /v/ and /lit/.
Because they bring their baggage with them. Even when they're not trying to explicitly, they still do it accidentally. They get all charged up on political debate on /pol/, and then when they come to /v/, they do so through a political lense and ruin every conversation they're in.

Same thing with discord. You have people who are just lonely, so they start going down their list of servers. And they're not really in it for the main subject matter, they want to discuss some other shit. So they start talking through the lense of their true intent, steering conversations toward more personal matters.

You guys don't offer anything. At best, you can say it's like 4chan. But if you are even an ounce lesser than 4chan, than it's a worse experience. So why fucking bother? Stop leeching off of the thread. Anything you say in discord you can say here. And anything you can't say here, is just one more reason why you should stop trying to get people to join.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 18:22:27 2020 No.16507654 looking for some input on this ebook bundle before I regret it >>16495997

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 18:23:26 2020 No.16507662 >>16507654 you can grab any of those easily online without having to pay and feel regret

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 18:27:42 2020 No.16507702 >>16507662 kek

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 18:35:12 2020 No.16507765 >>16501025 Oh no folks we got a badass over here!

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 19:08:17 2020 No.16507996 >>16507390 That's a shame. I was reading with interest in how a futuristic intergalactic civilization would work

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 19:19:31 2020 No.16508069

>>16507558
>Anything you say in discord you can say here
This thread doesn't have deep book discussions, it's mostly recommendations and anti-recommendations. Try discussing a book for more than 5 posts here, it just doesn't happen, or it's 5 different people all saying the most superficial things. If you don't want to join discord that's fine, but it does offer discussion that aren't possible here.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 19:19:41 2020 No.16508070 File: 616 KB, 739x434, aces of the altitudes.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16501061 Is Against The Day sci-fi?

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 20:13:40 2020 No.16508420

>>16507996
>I was reading with interest in how a futuristic intergalactic civilization would work
well you are seeing an empire in complete decline and a plan/organization trying to not let the whole universe fall into darkness. While there is more to the story than just that that is the main point. Which is why i said if you aren't invested in the plan you aren't going to get much out of the rest of the series. I loved it tho. If you just want to see a future society in play you should read some other of Asimov's works, especially his short stories.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 20:29:12 2020 No.16508527 >>16506980 i tried some discords, didn't like them, not bothering anymore.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 20:31:36 2020 No.16508540 >>16507996 Try Ian M. Banks' Culture series

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>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 20:47:47 2020 No.16508624 >>16508540 Ugh, I know Player of Games is more acclaimed by Consider Phlebas had poor characters. And no I dont hate everything lol I liked Dune, Hyperion, and Hitchhikers Guide

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 20:49:12 2020 No.16508640 >>16506681 They are increasingly good, but in a the same but better way. So if you didn't like just move on.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 20:52:21 2020 No.16508657 >>16508640 I didn't hate Foundation, and liked some of it. Just wanted more sci-fi and less economics/diplomacy

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 20:56:46 2020 No.16508688 >>16495611 >>16506229 >>16506387

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 20:58:38 2020 No.16508700 >>16508657 Second is a slightly emo personality-based space opera, third is a detective story, both centered around the evolution of the Seldon plan. The rest are optional and came much, much later.

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 21:05:55 2020 No.16508752

>>16508622
>I have three questions to ask: The first I'll ask now, than you can ask me something, and I'll ask one after that, then I'll ask the last question...
lel
People really not giving Wolfe any shit for this kind of dialogue
Personally I really loved this particular way of speaking, I guess most readers did, it's interesting

It mas mainly Silk's quirk? Being overly polite like that, same with adding "You don't have to answer me if you don't want to." to every time he asked someone where his position as a Patera put them in an uncomfortable position, where they felt compelled to answer

It's something Wolfe does frequently, I recognized it in his other books, but never to the extent as with Silk (Long Sun got a LOT of dialogue, though)
Laying out the rules of what's going to be said, then abiding by it, having it be exiting how it'll pan out
Kind of brilliant making what, could otherwise be, simples conversation a tiny dramatic structure like that

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 21:33:06 2020 No.16508930 >>16495181 Just picked up the first mistborn trilogy, dont know if I should commit or just go straight to book of the new sun. What does /lit/ say?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 21:38:49 2020 No.16508966 >>16508930 Start with Short Sun

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 21:51:09 2020 No.16509029 >>16508966 Shut the fuck up.

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 21:53:46 2020 No.16509046

>>16508624
I liked Player but could not get into Consider which came off to me as a definitely earlier work when his skills were lesser. I really like his trippy The Bridge. You might try
M John Harrison's Light. There aren't a bunch of aliens but 2 of the 3 characters are in the intergalactic future. The physics in it are part of its greatness.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 21:58:23 2020 No.16509068 >>16508966 i updoot u

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 22:03:29 2020 No.16509095 >>16509046 Consider was so bad that it pissed me off lol

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 22:11:52 2020 No.16509157 >>16509095 Consider was like a weird bad old Star Trek episode

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 22:20:06 2020 No.16509210

>>16508752
Wolfe's dialogues are usually pretty interesting and he introduces those formal quirks which I think are his attempt at making the dialogue sound more natural for a witty or quick thinking character.
The only downside to this style is that it accentuates how one sided the dialogues are, either in "power" or in self absorption.

I might be wrong, but when something like "I have three questions to ask" is said, there's usually only one character in control of the conversation (through knowledge -he knows more- or situational dominance -they have the other person arrested-), and the other ones are just left to meekly go along, at least in appearance.
Sadly I don't recall EPIC dialogues of equal discursive powers spoken in that style. I don't seem to recall any such dialogues in the Wizard Knight either, probably because Able is usually not in the know (no power over the other participants) and it's usually his MCs who speak that way. Still, some shape of that is there in the framed aspect of the narrative ("You know, Ben, I felt this or that way...").

And the other way it's presented makes you feel like the person speaking in that fashion is not really interested in the back and forth of the conversation, and either fills the space with overly verbose formulae, or is just trying to get the answers he wants to hear more quickly or without any serious consequence. Kinda socio/neuropathic if you ask me, but it's peak Wolfe.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 22:59:41 2020 No.16509429 >>16497118 >>16497123 It's Nora Roberts' pseudonym.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 23:28:07 2020 No.16509548 File: 134 KB, 802x480, star-wars-bacta-tank.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Which Science Fiction & Fantasy tropes do you actually like? Which do you absolutely despise?

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj Sun Oct 4 23:32:18 2020 No.16509563 >>16509548 Love: Social science fiction Hate: Sex droids But anything can be done well or poorly

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 23:39:46 2020 No.16509588 >>16509548 >Like - dinosaurs/kaiju - old mentor characters >Hate - save the girl quests, its worse than chosen ones - fallen civilizations that were much more advanced than current ones >>16509563 >Social science fiction what does this even mean?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 23:41:48 2020 No.16509601 >>16509548 i like manipulation of mathematics/physics

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 23:45:35 2020 No.16509627 >>16509548 Wicked witches are kino

« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj Sun Oct 4 23:49:32 2020 No.16509645

>>16509588
Like yeah yeah, spaceships, robots, the year 30,7020, the story focuses more on how social things. Hard science fiction is also nice, but I’ve always loved history and cultures. Like Star Trek with minimal techno babble.
I like you like/hates too. Fallen civilizations are cool though.

>>16509627
I need one

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 00:30:17 2020 No.16509832 Poop

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 00:59:59 2020 No.16509996 >>16509429 Good fucking grief, how many books does she write in a year?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 01:19:07 2020 No.16510108 >>16509645 Have you read The Beggars In Spain series by Nancy Kris’s? Lots of interesting social stuff.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 02:09:13 2020 No.16510318 >>16495181 Lads my dad likes Star Trek and Doctor Who he wants me to recommend him a sci-fi book, also he doesn't do much reading please help

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 02:10:28 2020 No.16510325 >>16510318 lot of good Who books ask /who/ at /tv/

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 02:20:36 2020 No.16510361
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>>16509548
This applies more to visual mediums but I fucking loathe highly advanced civs with that build everything out of geometric black stone with patterns of glowy shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 02:21:24 2020 No.16510365 >>16510318 The Diamond Age by Neal Stephenson >>16510325 No he should read something better.

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 02:51:27 2020 No.16510481

>>16508069
Like I said, anything you say in discord you CAN say here. Just because you choose not to talk more than two grunts here, that doesn't mean anything is holding you back from saying more.

Maybe if you were more expressive in the thread, then it would prompt others to reply. Rather than saving all of your talking points for discord. Are you holding back on us?
>But I do try to talk in the thread, and no one responds
Then get your discord buddies in here too. So they can respond to you on the board. What do you think this thread is for exactly?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 02:59:07 2020 No.16510502 >>16510108 oops, *Nancy Kress

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 05:23:54 2020 No.16510997

>>16510481
> Are you holding back on us?
>>16495611
>>/lit/thread/S16410829#p16415606
>>/lit/thread/S16370645#p16377018

That isn't me, but it's someone who uses the discord. No one responds.

> Then get your discord buddies in here too. So they can respond to you on the board.
It's more convenient to have a true real time chat.

> What do you think this thread is for exactly?
Amusing autism? I ask myself this question, then leave for a few weeks. What do you think it's for, as it's clearly not for in-depth discussion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 06:01:22 2020 No.16511066 I have been reading through the Conan stories lately and they are really cool.

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 06:13:21 2020 No.16511094
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Finished Throy/Cadwal Chronicles a few days ago, so here are some closing thoughts

Far from Vance's best work. His wit and creativity is in full force throughout. It's a testament to his skill that he manages to make 'near future humans spread across a chunk of the galaxy' feel fun and fresh as a setting.

B U T

The plot feels horribly lopsided, with each successive book less focused and less tense, with the final book being almost like a coda. Which is a shame because I think with a few structure changes it could be one of his best works, instead it just left me feeling kind of flat

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 06:18:55 2020 No.16511111
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What should I read if I like the military hierarchical structure + the utopian diplomatic ideals of Trek and am looking for something similar?

Would be interested also if there were works in this ethos in older scifi (pre copyright)

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 06:35:55 2020 No.16511177

>>16508930
They're completely different. New Sun is a river that you sail down in an old decorated boat, Mistborn is a Disney Park ride that you can't wait to get back on again and again. Don't read Mistborn if you're looking for something deep, comfy and that will make you think, and don't read New Sun if you're looking for a quick wank.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 06:46:32 2020 No.16511224 >>16511177 Read Mistborn if you want to read a generic anime that's been done a million times before and way better, i.e. less boring.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 08:13:29 2020 No.16511464 >>16510365 Plenty Who stories are fine and the VNAs featuring the 7th Doctor are some of the darkest literary stories they've produced.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 09:05:18 2020 No.16511629 >>16508069 >>16510997 >>16507506 >>16507362 This isn't /soc/ faggot. You and all your friends are newfag socialist filth, cause no true 4chin user would put their details into discord. We are anonymous here for a reason.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 09:34:46 2020 No.16511709 where is wintersteel bros

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 09:41:19 2020 No.16511732 >>16511709 Does this look like tuesday to you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 09:42:16 2020 No.16511738 The Blindsight movie releases in a week! http://www.blindsight.space/

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 09:45:44 2020 No.16511753 >>16495611 Dropped that shit on the first sentence Dozens of stories attempt to steal from moby dick and none of them are worth reading

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 09:52:35 2020 No.16511785 >>16511732 forgive me anon, i don't even know what day it is. i already saw some fags with the book so i expected it to be out already.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 09:54:18 2020 No.16511791 >caring about cradle after uncrowned

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 10:06:57 2020 No.16511829 >>16511791 you are obviously right, and I'm probably dumb for trying the new one. but since I'll download it and considering it has over 500+pages i still have a little bit of faith that it will turn out okay. no bully.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 10:21:47 2020 No.16511901 >>16511094 I thought Araminta Station was fantastic -- the scheming, the counter-scheming and most of all, the Yips. But the other two never came together.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 10:41:31 2020 No.16511975 https://forum.mobilism.org/viewtopic.php?f=1293&t=3017749 its out

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 10:53:31 2020 No.16512018 >>16511829 >considering it has over 500+pages Maybe he finally got over his ego and listened to criticism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 11:02:05 2020 No.16512043 File: 56 KB, 242x400, 541923.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm currently reading pic related. What books do you guys recommend after Phantasies?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 11:10:16 2020 No.16512080 >>16511111 Silver age scifi. Few to none of the american multiracial hangups though and one publisher always wanted humans to be superior, but he also had good taste in authors.

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj Mon Oct 5 11:19:26 2020 No.16512122 >>16512043 >Beggars In Spain William Morris >>16510108 I’ve heard the names, probably in the 90s, but never read. I donno about this Randina influence. Why are there only a minority of sleepers? I’ll look into it.

« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj Mon Oct 5 11:20:48 2020 No.16512128
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>>16512043
Something from William Morris

>>16510108
I’ve heard the names, probably in the 90s, but never read. I donno about this Randina influence. Why are there only a minority of sleepers? I’ll look into it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 11:29:17 2020 No.16512173 >>16511975 man wintersteel was super underwhelming

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 13:00:56 2020 No.16512598 >>16512080 >and one publisher always wanted humans to be superior Baen?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 13:04:50 2020 No.16512622 >>16510481 >Then get your discord buddies in here too >>16511629 >This isn't /soc/ faggot If we tried to force discussion here, inevitably this would be the response.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 13:14:02 2020 No.16512671 >>16512622 If you discussed BOOKS here it wouldn't be a problem, but you wanna talk about politics and other off topic shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 13:34:26 2020 No.16512785 Anyone know if coiling dragon ring audiobook 2 is ever going to be released? I need more of little brother destroying thots.

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 14:05:37 2020 No.16513018

>>16512671
>but you wanna talk about politics and other off topic shit
>>16511629
>You and all your friends are newfag socialist filth
that guy is the one bringing up politics, not me.
>>16495296
>>16498927
>>16507445
These guys are the tranny spammers, also not me.

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 14:27:41 2020 No.16513165

>visit website to discuss <topic>
>no you have to visit [external medium] before we can discuss this topic!
>people who do not discuss <topic> instead shitpost about [external medium] ad nauseum
I wish everybody who began visiting this website beyond 2010 were suicided in the back of the head.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 14:58:41 2020 No.16513392 Earth 1-.3 was solid. Earthsea 4 had most of its plot tossed out to radical feminism, and Earthsea 5 was too long to fill the void. I don't even LE GUIN!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 15:41:14 2020 No.16513728 >boys climb and run faster WTF Is this true?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 15:42:45 2020 No.16513740 >>16501061 WH40k books

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 15:55:48 2020 No.16513839 >>16513728 Testosterone is one hell of a drug

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 16:18:40 2020 No.16514016 >>16513728 Its almost as if child birth deforms the body, and that men is taller and larger. Meanwhile in the animal kingdom, the women are usually larger, so they can defend their offspring.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 16:20:20 2020 No.16514032 Any books like the starship troopers movie? I want something over the top bad-ass sci-fi book?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 16:23:36 2020 No.16514053 >>16514032 Would the undying mercenaries series be too over the top?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 16:24:17 2020 No.16514060 File: 65 KB, 509x739, David_Weber_Honorverse_The_Short_Victorious_War.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16511111 You could try the Honor Harrington books

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 16:26:00 2020 No.16514068 >>16514053 Maybe a series that isnt 13 books long?

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 16:32:11 2020 No.16514119

>>16514068
The books are mostly independent - episodic, but with the same characters and some connecting elements. Like they do with mystery series. You can read as many or as few as you like. Suggest you read in order, though, since they introduce things into the universe as it goes on.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 16:32:19 2020 No.16514121 >>16514060 Isn't that the book series that the author literally copy and paste whole chapters from previous books?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 16:40:43 2020 No.16514187 Just got Fire Up the Deep, what should I expect

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 17:05:30 2020 No.16514349 Halo- Shadow of reach, is about to be released.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 17:06:21 2020 No.16514354 >>16514121 no

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 17:06:26 2020 No.16514356 File: 249 KB, 442x298, rev.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16514187 >fire up the deep

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 17:11:08 2020 No.16514378 >>16514354 I look it up, and it is. http://forums.davidweber.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6870 What the actual fuck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 17:16:52 2020 No.16514412 >>16514187 forgettable plot and characters completely redeemed by the setting

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 17:17:15 2020 No.16514416 >>16514378 I listened to 14 books of the main storyline in a row and I don't recall copy-paste :E

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 17:32:53 2020 No.16514499 >>16514416 Because you're a dimwit

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 17:39:48 2020 No.16514522
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>>16495181
Grimmest darkest fantasy that’s still somewhat literary and philosophical?

I couldn’t get into Joe Abercrombie or Shadow of the Torturer. I did like the insanity of R Scott Bakker’s books, but his endless navel-gazing got pretty tedious. Any recommendations?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 17:40:30 2020 No.16514525 >>16514499 nah I think you haven't even read them and are trying to blow something ridiculously out of proportion for what are probably absolutely hilarious reasons

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 17:45:01 2020 No.16514550
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>>16514187
its been quite a while since I read it but I'd characterize it as adventure story with backdrop of unfolding Cosmic Horror tier events with the author doing a good job of turning the changes in physics into plot elements

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 17:45:46 2020 No.16514561 >>16512173 how so? no spoilers

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 17:47:40 2020 No.16514573 >>16514525 No you're just dumb

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 17:48:06 2020 No.16514577 >>16514573 not an argument

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 17:49:16 2020 No.16514589 >>16514561 Not the guy you are responding to but I agree. It was super boring, nothing happened. The most exiting thing that happens is that Lindon and Yerin finally kiss.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 17:57:28 2020 No.16514637 >>16514577 It is an argument. You're character is on trial.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 17:58:31 2020 No.16514644 >>16514522 That's not possible unless you are going to count something like The Road.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 17:59:40 2020 No.16514649 >>16513165 You're blaming the wrong people.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 18:00:56 2020 No.16514661 >>16512173 You had already decided it was before you read it so it couldn't have been otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 18:05:20 2020 No.16514693 >20 books behind schedule why do I always stop reading in summer bros

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 18:06:20 2020 No.16514702 >>16514693 Because you know there are more important things than escapism.

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 18:10:37 2020 No.16514733

>>16509548
>Which Science Fiction & Fantasy tropes do you actually like?
Transhumanism
Ancient aliens
Humanlike aliens (descended from humans to make it harder... so basically transhumanism again)
Magic vs Technology conflict (one faction predominantly relies on magic, the other - on technology, yet they are more or less evenly matched)
Evil and racist elves (basically, how elves/fae originally were perceived, before Tolkien decided to make them the bland Mary Sue chosen species)

>Which do you absolutely despise?
Humans as a sole sentient race, and not even any transhumans in the setting
Settings where centuries and millennia in the future human culture has barely changed or where large chunks of humanity suddenly enjoy larping some bygone era (yes, FUCK LoGH)
Fantasy:
Excessive grimdark and edge. Not against grimdark per se, but there's a point when it gets repetitive and you just get desensitized to it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 18:14:08 2020 No.16514751 >>16514733 You seem to have very specific taste. It must be difficult for you.

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 18:17:40 2020 No.16514768

>>16514522
Blindopraxia is pretty grim and philosophical and not poorly written imo, but it's sci-fi. And perhaps if you're not into those particular branches of philosophy it explores you'd get bored too. To me it seemed sort of like Bakker but more coherent and with less filler.

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 18:23:57 2020 No.16514821

>>16514751
Why? It's not like I can't read anything that doesn't match all the criteria. Even if something matches just one, I may enjoy it. And even if it matches none, I can just study it as a curious literary artifact, get some laughs out of it or maybe... learn 'what not to do'. I'm trying to write something myself from time to time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 18:42:53 2020 No.16514941 >>16514060 >someone asks for utopian ideals >recommend them a series where a (bad) caricature of those beliefs are the villains lol)

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 18:43:54 2020 No.16514946 >>16514032 Poor Man's Flight is hilarious for being about how a footsoldier pretty much singlehandedly wins intergalactic conflicts

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 18:56:51 2020 No.16515014 >>16514941 >X to doubt I am going to have to question if you even read it

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 18:57:52 2020 No.16515020 >>16515014 open short victorious war and ctrl+f something like "welfare" "benefits" "handouts"

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 19:03:54 2020 No.16515060

>>16515020
hell do it for the first book
>But Haven had become a threat. After almost two T-centuries of deficit spending to shore up an increasingly insolvent welfare state, Haven had decided it had no choice but to turn conquistador to acquire the resources it needed to support its citizens in the style to which they had become accustomed, and the People's Navy had proven its capacity to do just that over the course of the last five decades. Haven already controlled one terminus of the Junction—Trevor's Star, conquered twelve T-years ago—and Honor had no doubt the "Republic" hungered to add the rest of them to its bag. Especially, she thought with a familiar chill, the central nexus, for without Manticore itself, the other termini were of strictly limited utility.

it's literally "wot if the federation were evil because of their economy" with the added bonus that it doesn't even make any fucking sense when he's talking about a planet-wide economy.

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 19:13:11 2020 No.16515123

>>16515020
>>16515060
>story has villains and conflict
>this is bad
explain yourself anon

>wot if the federation were evil because of their economy
You should keep reading if this is your take on it, the author makes a central plot point of dispelling this notion completely later on

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 19:14:50 2020 No.16515128 >>16500423 Jasper Fforde is the closest thing, if only he would stop writing goddamn books about rabbits and Thursday Next. Early Riser and Shades of Grey are both really good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 19:22:07 2020 No.16515157 >>16510318 Just give him Alien Bodies by Lawrence Miles. It's a great ideas Doctor Who Novel.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 20:09:33 2020 No.16515413 >>16515128 >Shades of Grey is a comparable novel to anything PKD This is genuinely the most offensive post I've seen in this thread in some time. Even Discordfaggotry doesn't step so far out of bounds.

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