LitRPG/GameLit/Western Harem thread

[Anonymous No.14400760]

Since the other went so well, let's have another one.

Hard mode: Talk about the LitRPG you are writing.

[Anonymous No.14400786]

>>14400760

Hit me up with that schlock nerd literature. Doesn't need to be GameLit / LitRPG or whatever. Just really niche nerdy stuff.

[Anonymous No.14400833]

>>14400786

I'll start.

The Lotus War Trilogy by Jay Kristoff. These books have it all!

A Hellish Steampunk Setting, Grimdark Empires & Oppressive Religious Regimes, Weaboo Shit Off-The-Chars, Misinterpretation of Japanese Culture and Mythology, Chainsaw Katana, Genetically-Enhanced Cyborg Samurai, Lotus Flower-Powered Airships, and Talking Flying Thunder Tigers.

Do read. It's fun. Just don't expect to see any depiction of Japanese Culture / History that's remotely accurate.

[Anonymous No.14400885]

>>14400760
i can garantee you no woman has read any of these books

[Anonymous No.14400895]

>>14400885

How many men have read Twilight or its dozens of copycats? Not many, I assure you.

[Anonymous No.14400911]

>>14400895
that's the point, it's more akin to masturbation than actual reading
these books are for neckbeards what 50 shades of grey is for wine moms

[Anonymous No.14400941]

I'm writing a LN inspired novel with a succubus() hero. At 77k, book 1 was 54k. No sex. While this is a formality, I could post the finished book 1 if anyone wanted.

[Anonymous No.14400947]

>>14400911

I think the word you're looking for is "pulp". Or, alternatively, "Fast Food Literature".

The fact of the matter is that, though I enjoy a fine dinner at a fancy restaurant as much the other guy, sometimes I just want to eat a borger. Or an ice cream sundae. Or a crepe or whatever.

Something that's quick, easily digestible, and which overall doesn't enrich me in the slightest and in fact can actually do harm if it's all I eat, but which is undeniably tasty for what it is and enjoyable in the moment.

To me, it's the same with literature. I enjoy Isaac Azimov and Arthur C. Clark as much as the next nerd, but sometimes I just wanna read the equivalent of Flash Gordon serials.

Or to use a more apt, weeb analogy, not everything needs to be Miyazaki, sometimes seeing dumb action and cute waifus is enough.

[Anonymous No.14400965]

>>14400941
No, please, no...

[Anonymous No.14400969]

>>14400941

Super Heroes on Sale proves you don't need smut to be successful with this type of stuff.

[Anonymous No.14400977]

>>14400885
and literally why would that matter

[Anonymous No.14401058]

>>14400969
It's the same difference between /e/ and /h/

[Anonymous No.14401115]

>>14401058

Suggestion and Foreplay is often far hotter than Exposure and Smut.

[Anonymous No.14401140]

>>14401115
It also means the authors have to write a story rather than some poor excuses to collect their pokemon harem and string together the sex scenes.

[Anonymous No.14401214]

Anything with Kigu?

[Anonymous No.14401326]

>>14400941
Do it

[Anonymous No.14401368]

>>14400885

I think you might be surprised

[Anonymous No.14401479]

>>14401326
https://drive.google.com/file/d/18DNQWGwV4oRCUu3vLfhMSnmBw5YcGbNP/view?usp=sharing

[Anonymous No.14401575]

>>14400833
how much sex and numbers autism?

[Anonymous No.14401988]

>>14401479
I don't know if it matters to you, but the way you've presented this shows your gmail address and your name. Since you've posted your email on /a/ though, I suppose you don't care.

[Anonymous No.14402189]

Far as I can tell there's no such thing as too bad in this genre.
So the question is, how good is TOO good?

[Anonymous No.14402356]

>>14401214
/d/?

[Anonymous No.14402391]

>>14401988
The reality is that nobody cares if some random fag is associated with some anonymous post.

[Anonymous No.14402428]

>>14400833
>The Lotus War Trilogy by Jay Kristoff.
is it lewd

[Anonymous No.14402475]

>>14400969
I have only read a plot summary and reviews, but I swear those books are the most autistic things I have seen in all my life.

[Anonymous No.14402943]

>>14402428

No, but it has a hilarious amount of racism in it. The characters endlessly sperg about "Filthy white gaijins" all the time. It's great.

[Anonymous No.14402952]

>>14402943
Being racist against whites isn’t a crime

[Anonymous No.14402957]

>>14402943
>Jay Kristoff
Hrm

[Anonymous No.14403033]

>>14400833
Nice covers. But racism against white people isn't really controversial and strong female characters isn't remarkable, so I wouldn't say those are strong drawing points. That leaves us with the action and the setting. I guess a japanese steampunk story could be fun. How preachy is it, though?

[Anonymous No.14403105]

>>14403033

It's not exactly preachy but it has a lot of Warhammer 40K-esque inspirations in how brutal the Empire is, and how fanatic the State Religion can get, and also with the industries and airships and whatnot filling the skies with smog and pollution.

I do like it for what it is. For the unique setting and the fun weeb stuff.

[Anonymous No.14403136]

>>14400760
I am literally in love with Madalena.

[Anonymous No.14403159]

>>14403136

>Tiger Furry shit.

What even is this and why do you read it.

[Anonymous No.14403181]

>>14400947
>anime posters

[Anonymous No.14403390]

>>14403181

Problem?

[Anonymous No.14403414]

>>14403105
Sounds fun. I'll check it out.

[Anonymous No.14403781]

>>14403414

Hope you enjoy them.

[Anonymous No.14403788]

Oh boy, a general! Everybody loves generals! If a thread goes well, just copy it as infinitum and it will always retain the same quality!

[Anonymous No.14403893]

>Bootleg Zero Two Blocks Your Path

[Anonymous No.14403908]

>>14403893
But that's wrong.
That's clearly bootleg Morrigan from DarkStalkers you idiot.

[Anonymous No.14403931]

>>14403908
It's Zero Two's head on Morrigan's body, as previously established.

[Anonymous No.14403944]

I want to write a Litrpg though I want to write a more serious attempt at the genre. But will it sell though? Don't want no Harem bullshit, no reddit tier humor bullshit.

[Anonymous No.14403949]

>>14403931
You belong in this thread more than possibly anyone else.

[Anonymous No.14403976]

>>14403949

Thank you. I'll take it as a compliment.

>>14403944

If it's catchy and unique in setting / premise enough, it will have its niche.

[Anonymous No.14404091]

>>14403944
Litrpg is leddit by default

[Anonymous No.14404217]

>>14403944
Ready Player One is litrpg-lite and that sold very well.

When it comes to real litrpg / gamelit there many (trashy) series that sell well, several series that are actually well written / good books but very few that are both.

[Anonymous No.14404275]

Is this like Yahtzee Croshaw's books? Never read them though.

[Anonymous No.14404654]

>>14403944
I can't help but feel like a serious harem would be a better read than a serious litrpg.

[Anonymous No.14404761]

>>14403944

[Anonymous No.14404827]

>>14404654
Wheel of Time has a harem and I don't think I've ever read anything negative about that being a fairly major plot element.

[Anonymous No.14404973]

>>14404827
It was mostly just annoying and a waste of pages, wasn't titillating like anime harems, and not compelling like traditional love triangles. It would have made a lot more sense and unironically been more interesting if all three girls were after him but he had to choose one

[Anonymous No.14405045]

>>14404973
> wasn't titillating like anime harems
Since the comment was about a serious harem that's kind of the point. The vast majority of people who read books aren't /a/ zoomer even if they are the target audience for all the gamelit smut.

[Anonymous No.14405059]

>>14405045
As I said, it's wasn't good in a dramatic serious way either. Shit, plain and simple

[Anonymous No.14405323]

Whats the best gamelit litrpg numbers autism that isnt filled with 13 year old sexual fan fiction for 50% of the book? I just want to have fun with a good book and not be erect all the time as I read.

Keep the sex to about 10% or so, not 90%

[Anonymous No.14405329]

>>14400885
And that's a good thing

[Anonymous No.14405870]

>>14405323
Ascend Online
Awaken Online
Emerilia
The Divine Dungeon
Stork Tower

I was going to mention Gam3 but the author seems to have had a mental episode and said he's not writing any more in the series as he thinks the existing books aren't good enough.

[Anonymous No.14406035]

>>14404654

Serious / Played Straight Harem stories are rare gems, but they are so good to read.

[Anonymous No.14406549]

Are we gonna write a LitRPG together?

[Anonymous No.14407076]

>>14406549

>Cutesexyrobutts

Good taste, but no we won't.

[Anonymous No.14407102]

what the fuck is this crap

[Anonymous No.14407624]

This series is pretty good. The best part is that the harem is one girl in different bodies.

[Anonymous No.14407627]

>>14407624
image related

[Anonymous No.14407746]

>>14407627
This authors views on romance are pretty fucking cringe though. As well as his persecution complex

[Anonymous No.14408148]

Which books have pregnancy and lactation?

[Anonymous No.14408152]

Alright fags, what the most degenerate piece of lit you have read so far?

[Anonymous No.14408346]

Can anyone give me a western novel with a protagonist with the morals of your average xianxia protagonist? Fang Yuan of Reverend Insanity is easily the best example of what I want.
I tried Cradle, but the protagonist in that was a little bitch.
Also a reminder that a harem is useless if the MC doesn't drain his balls in each and every member of it at least once a week.

[Anonymous No.14408387]

>>14403944
Maybe write something Strugatskiy-inspiered.

[Anonymous No.14408409]

Which ones are quantity over quality as far as the harem/sex goes? I kind of like the idea of MC just screwing around, pump and dump and all that.

[Anonymous No.14409306]

>>14407102
It's art.

[Anonymous No.14409594]

Just play Rance faggots

[Anonymous No.14409787]

>>14408346

Could a thread on Web Fiction / Web Novels like the kind you find on Novelupdates work here on /lit/? Do you think there's an audience for it here?

[Anonymous No.14409883]

>>14409787
There's usually an isekai "general" on /a/ that discusses web novels, and it's almost always alive, so if enough people know about it maybe.
But I don't think any board would willingly accept it. /a/ jannies kick it because they discuss korean and chinese novels, /lit/ might kick them for not being /lit/ enough or something, and /jp/ would kick it for the same reason /a/ would.
There's also some web novel posting in the /a/ homo threads and on /y/ and /cm/, but that's obviously limited to bl novels.

I do think it would be nice to have a thread like that. The subreddit for xianxia novels died after Qidian started locking the majority of the novels behind a paywall.

[Anonymous No.14409922]

>>14408346
Any complete Xianxias you suggest that are not complete shit?

[Anonymous No.14410209]

>>14409922
You should start with Coiling Dragon, then Desolate Era, and then Renegade Immortal.
The last one isn't finished yet but will be in a month. And the first two are like 5000+ pages combined anyway so I doubt you'll be done with them before.
CD is a good start because it's western fantasy, and while its story progression is xianxia themed it's not that deep. Then DE is chinese styled fantasy with a xianxia story progression, but again it's not that bad. And then you have RI which is chinese fantasy with a complete xianxia story progression.
In the first two the MC is righteous and just, always on the side of good, at least what qualifies as good in xianxia. And in RI the mc serves only himself, and occasionally allies who are good to him. Which is the ideal xianxia character type.
It's done even better in Reverend Insanity but that's not finished yet. And the ending got censored by the chinese government so it might never be finished.

[Anonymous No.14410211]

>>14409787
Sure, give it a try.

[Anonymous No.14410326]

>>14410209
>And the ending got censored by the chinese government
What...why was it censored? Any leaked info on what it contained for them do want to censor it? Cant the author just edit it or is he fucked forever in some chinese labor camp?

[Anonymous No.14410373]

>>14410326
The Chinese government has banned a bunch of topics at various times, such as:

Nothing sexual beneath the neck, whether daydreams, failed sexy times, or allusions as such.

No gov/military corruption, or anything that casts gov in bad light.

No military related romance due to over-exaggeration.

https://twitter.com/etvofluff/status/1131784936401195009

[Anonymous No.14410427]

So are these basically stories from playing tabletop RPGs but fictional?

[Anonymous No.14410431]

>>14400833
something like this not that much weeb-ish.
>strong cute female mc
>some cool shit
>no edgy
>nice lore and fantasy
>not written like from a woman that dreams of her romance that never happened
Everytime I read these books about magicians and witches it always reads stupid and then boom love triangle bullshit. Mortal engines e.g. was pretty good, but I only read the first book of it.

[Anonymous No.14410452]

>>14410373
>write thing
>get sent to re-education camp
>write other thing
>get sent to gulag
such is the life of a chinese person

[Anonymous No.14410472]

>>14410373
>Nothing sexual beneath the neck
so throat fingering is still ok?

[Anonymous No.14410951]

>>14410326
I don't know why, but they've done it before to other web novels. The author said he'll release the ending as a standalone thing at least.
I hope it gets translated.
There's another web novel called Lord of the Mysteries which is also very good, and quite popular on /a/ and while that didn't get completely blocked the author has to change a certain event that happens.

Basically china has these rules against magic and undead, and both of these have that, as well as usually have ascending to become a god at some point, and maybe that's what triggered the censors.
Either way it's stupid as fuck.

[Anonymous No.14410970]

>>14410951
What does the CCP have against magic, undead, and becoming a god? I know they are officially Atheist and actively subjugate Islam and Christianity there. Still butthurt about the Taiping Rebellion I guess.

[Anonymous No.14410996]

>>14410970
I think it's because it's part of the folklore there, and they want the state to replace that instead.

And you can look at the chinese version of WoW to see their censorship in action. I think they replace all gore with bags of flour. It's insane.

[Anonymous No.14411007]

>>14410996
I know pubg game got raped by censors, when you kill a guy he puts his backpack of loot down and happily waves you goodbye and walks away

[Anonymous No.14411115]

The only reason the ending of RI was censored was because "going against the absolute universal will" draws certain unwanted parallels with the gov and cucks kept reporting the novel just so it got censored.

[Anonymous No.14411754]

>>14408148
>pregnancy
Wild Wastes. It's shite though.
>lactation
John Blake.

[Anonymous No.14412589]

>>14410970
They want to resurrect Chairman Mao.

[Anonymous No.14413184]

>>14411754
What about breeding farms, incest, and any other degenerate subjects

[Anonymous No.14413207]

Tell me a book with some femdom shit like pic related. Read Dune 4, 5 and 6 with the "Honored Matre" stuff, want more shit like this.

[Anonymous No.14413247]

>>14403944
Try reading Dungeon Lord by Hugo Huesca. Its fantastic in my opinion. You can also try the Bathrobe Knight by James Dean. They focus on story and are competently written. No harems.

A lot of people dislike the harem elements that are commonly associated with the litrpg genre. You might also want to look into "gamelit". Which is basically the same as litrpg but without the constant stats and levelups. Try The Blue Mage Raised By Dragons by VIrlyce its a good example of a toned down version that is still game like but isnt made up of spreadsheets.
Finally theres the "good" harem writers. At the top of the pole are William D. Arand/Randi Darren(Same person), Daniel Schinhofen and Michael-Scott Earle. They are considered the top dogs in the genre because they actually are competent writers that focus on stories and incorporate the harem elements in a way that makes sense. They were the first to do(and gain mainstream popularity with it) it and as far as i can tell no one comes close in talent and quality to those three when it comes to harems in stories.
Keep in mind though many people dislike the harem stuff on a principal level and i have to admit I've grown tired of it from many authors as well. That being said it seems to be just a fad for many. Harmon Cooper for example released a non harem book called Death's Mantle which also would fall under the game lite umbrella.

[Anonymous No.14413256]

I barely enjoy most jap light novels, with a few exceptions. Why would anyone read shitty western knock-offs of an already bad idea?

[Anonymous No.14413372]

>>14413256
because some people like things you don't?

[Anonymous No.14413423]

>>14410472
That would depend on the height of the hands.

[Anonymous No.14413542]

Anything with a nice qt3.14 azn gurl?

[Anonymous No.14413564]

>>14413247
>Dungeon Lord by Hugo Huesca
>the Bathrobe Knight by James Dea
>The Blue Mage Raised By Dragons by VIrlyce
>William D. Arand/Randi Darren(Same person), Daniel Schinhofen and Michael-Scott Earle
>Harmon Cooper for example released
I don't understand you anon. You post utter shit like Hugo and bathrobe knight for recommendations, but then post something based like blue mage raised by dragons.
Then you shit the bed by telling people to read Daniel "daddy told me to love one woman, and I will cry about it for 4 books until I accept my harem" Schinhofen, and Harmon "I can't write a coherent story" Cooper.
Wtf anon? How are you tastes so skewed?

[Anonymous No.14413603]

>>14413564
What do you suggest then, whats good and what should you avoid? Im new to the genre

[Anonymous No.14413610]

>Wtf anon? How are you tastes so skewed?
Authors grow over time and change their writing style and perspective. I don't hold the earliest works of an author against them if they actually improve.
In the case of Schinhofen for example Alpha World is his weakest entry by far. He improved drastically in my opinion with Morrigan's Bidding and while i agree that he has an issue with his characters manning up, his shtick is character- and most importantly self-development so i can forgive him that characters occasionally act stupid as long as they actually improve upon themselves.. Harmon cooper served to illustrate a point that he actually did more than just write harems. I will grant you that Cooper is not the best of authors in regards to consistency. However i will defend Hugo Huesca and James Dean. The stories they write are great. The Wraiths Hunt has been a fresh air in the genre and each books is actually better than the previous one. I recommended the Bathrobe knight though because it hits most of the fantasy check-marks while not being overly "litrpgy" despite taking place in a video-game and featuring stats. The Heroic Villain is also something i'm enjoying a great deal.

[Anonymous No.14413620]

>>14413610
meant to quote
>>14413564

[Anonymous No.14414457]

Is there a market for market for femdom stories in the world of self published harem stuff or is it all about male power fantasy?

[Anonymous No.14414468]

>>14414457
I think there's a market for anything as long as it's on KU but there's only one way to find out for sure ...

[Anonymous No.14414521]

>>14414457
I'm not sure there is, desu. I don't really see it being popular in the usual discussion places, you'd probably have to find your audience, and they probably aren't that much into books. Maybe if it's really tame you could sell it to those people that are into strong female characters?

[Anonymous No.14414534]

>>14413610
>He improved drastically in my opinion with Morrigan's Bidding
I don't know how much of an improvement that was. The dialogue in that book was absolutely atrocious. I've never seen something more square and blocky outside automatic text generators.

[Anonymous No.14414555]

>>14413542
Ex-superheroes.
Blood mage.

[Anonymous No.14414782]

>>14413610
>He improved drastically in my opinion with Morrigan's Bidding and while i agree that he has an issue with his characters manning up, his shtick is character- and most importantly self-development so i can forgive him that characters occasionally act stupid
The first book of morrigan's bidding was alpha world, but not in a game scenario. It was the same characters, and the same "my father thought me to love one woman" bs. Then the second book went completely off the rails and just turned into orgy training, I was surprised they didn't do a Shakespeare play to make more filler. The third book got back on track and cut to black, but the james masturbation (or whatever his friend's name is) is still there, more than ever. You just know (from his poor foreshadowing) that James will turn up later in the books. Also, the author tries to set up situations where he can add women to his harem and it wouldn't compromise his morals such as him bringing two girls back from the dead, having them bonded to him, allowing for him not actually cheating on metal arm knife ears also, which female would willingly want to share their bed with another female? Not only that, but look for more females to add to it, thus lessening the time they can spend with dick?

I dropped alpha world after they did an entire filler book hand holding fluff, and pages upon pages of Shakespeare plays. Fuck that shit.

[Anonymous No.14415073]

>>14413184
I got nothing, mate.

[Anonymous No.14415438]

>>14413184
In the barn - piers anthony

[Anonymous No.14415468]

>>14415438
>In the barn - piers anthony
Cant find it

[Anonymous No.14416150]

>>14413207

I second this request.

[Anonymous No.14416161]

>>14404827

Never forget that Wheel of Time was unironically marketed and released as a Light Novel Series in Japan, even getting each book split into smaller volumes, and hiring artists to do internal illustrations, and the name of the series being changed to "The Legend of the Dragon Lord'

[Anonymous No.14417424]

>>14416161
>WoT was a jap light novel
really? I dont believe you

[Anonymous No.14417442]

>>14417424
https://imgur.com/gallery/WiyW7

[Anonymous No.14417972]

>>14414782
>actually reading books

[Anonymous No.14418046]

>>14417424

It's true, as shown by the other anon here >>14417442

[Anonymous No.14418231]

>>14417424
>>14417442
>>14418046
>its actually true

Did the whole story get released in Japan with artwork for all the characters? How much of the content was changed form the LN compared to the Western releases?

[Anonymous No.14418462]

>>14415468
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=in+the+barn+piers+anthony

[Anonymous No.14418496]

Okay, I could do this. I need some advice, mainly how important is the cover art and how much should I expect to invest in a commission for it, and secondly what kind of self-promotion would I need to engage in to get word of my works out there (apart from shilling on /lit/)?

I ask the second question because this Jamie Hawke guy, who appears to be the leader in this genre, has a comics background so he obviously had contacts. Enough to push his shit to the forefront in under 2 years. Is it pointless to try and make money from this genre without being able to afford artists, and audiobook recordings of my works?

[Anonymous No.14418563]

>>14400760
What the fuck? Are these the American version of light novels?

[Anonymous No.14418780]

>>14418563
Yes, but worse in a lot of ways because they are self-published without any editing or any kind of quality control.

[Anonymous No.14418942]

>>14418563

Yes. Some people realized that much like with Mommy Erotica, there was an untapped audience of male nerds and weebs that would totally gobble this shit up.

[Anonymous No.14418949]

>>14418231

The whole Wheel of Time series got released in Japan, albeit with each book split into like 2 or 3 volumes.

And yes, all the volumes have inner illustrations of characters and scenes. Though obviously there's no good quality scans or even pictures of them save that one Imgur Gallery of Volume One.

I don't think the story got changed save for the title. I mean, Wheel of Time is already really fucking Light Novel material as is. With an unassuming nobody protagonist that ends up turning out to be the most important guy in the universe, who becomes increasingly stronger until he's the most powerful guy in the universe short of fucking god, and who gets his own harem of three beauties who all happily share him.

I'm shocked it's not bigger in Japan

[Anonymous No.14419191]

>>14418949
There is no download for the LN's? I really want all the artwork, damn. What is the official name for it in Japan? I thought it was Legend of the Dragon Lord but when I googled it I also got "toki no sharin"

[Anonymous No.14419292]

>>14418496
> how important is the cover art
If you're writing smut aimed at the KU audience I'd say it's very important. You need something to get the attention while clicking through Amazon recommendations.

> this Jamie Hawke guy, who appears to be the leader in this genre
is he really? I'd never heard of him before or seem him in any other litrpg threads or charts.

[Anonymous No.14419310]

>>14419292
>is he really? I'd never heard of him before or seem him in any other litrpg threads or charts.
I was referring more to the harem side of things.

[Anonymous No.14419497]

>>14419310
Same applies. He's not even listed in the Goodreads lists for harems.

[Anonymous No.14419597]

>>14419310
Jamie Hawke is new as far as I know.

[Anonymous No.14420256]

Sales are so bad that self-promotion here may actually work

[Anonymous No.14420308]

>>14420256
Go ahead and get banned.

[Anonymous No.14421116]

>>14418563
Pretty much, yes. LitRPG's especially, since they basically are SAO

[Anonymous No.14421173]

>>14421116
I like both, which one does anal?

[Anonymous No.14421175]

>>14418780
This
I have read couple this kind of books. Mostly because I like to buy cheap trash from amazon to read on kindle. There have been few diamonds in the rough but most are absolute trash. Worst offender has to be Éric Vall who have bumped out shit ton of books and from those I have read, there has not been a single interesting character, setting or plot.

[Anonymous No.14421364]

>>14421116
>femoids
Nope.

[Anonymous No.14421824]

>>14421175

Eric Vall sucks ass jesus christ. He takes what are good premises for fun erotica and pukes out trash on a monthly basis.

[Anonymous No.14421831]

>>14418496
A good cover is important if you want to start fast. You can still make it with a bad cover, but it will take 10x longer. Just go on fiverr and see how much they ask, also picarto and other places. But just a cover isn't enough. Have a social media page and announce it on groups where people frequent.

[Anonymous No.14421904]

I write a harem fic I'm hoping to get up on Kindle in 2020. Just broke 300k words, finding just the right cover artist who doesn't have an atrocious waitlist is tough, though. What I have now's good enough for free fic sites, but I need something a lot better if I want to make a good impression on a new market with clickbait tiddies.

[Anonymous No.14421957]

>>14421904
Nice. What's it about?

And where are you looking for cover artists?

[Anonymous No.14422704]

>>14421957
It's about people hooking up in the weebiest setting I could think of, an anime convention.

Started looking through Deviantart, then a couple of other authors were linking me their artists, right now I'm in a back and forth with a guy from r/hungryartists.

[Anonymous No.14423520]

>>14421173
Wada does anal - despite her attitude she values her virginity and won't give it away. She is also afraid it'll hurt too much to do it the right way, and doesn't get the cognitive dissonance about the truth of all that.

Yamamoto doesn't do anal - she doesn't want to deal with the clean up and finds it gross, but she does fuck normally, and often, though only with boyfriends.

[Anonymous No.14424042]

>>14423520
how many gallons of cum and miles of dick has yamamoto taken

[Anonymous No.14424046]

Anything with humiliation and sex in public or deepthroating?

[Anonymous No.14424510]

>>14400760
>>14400786
I'm working on a novel that will kick off a series. Attached image is a dummy cover I mocked up to motivate myself. The actual title will also be different, but it's basically darker, edgier, sexier Star Wars. The major differences are:
>The "Jedi" work for the "Empire."
>The "Sith" lead the "Rebel Alliance."
Neither side is really the good guy or bad guy, and the protagonist is an intergalactic thief who gets caught up in the fight between the two factions and finds himself in a position to tilt the balance. There's a little bit of existentialism and discussion of choice and identity, but mostly it's about this wicked smart dude kicking the ass of various psychic demigods who constantly mistake him for a meaningless pawn in their game. And he fucks hot Jedi bitches.

[Anonymous No.14424556]

>>14424510
Be very careful you don't make it a blatant Star Wars rip-off or you'll have Disney lawyers smiting you with the force of an angry god.

[Anonymous No.14424612]

>>14424556
Yeah, that's the hardest trick. I'm also borrowing a lot of ideas from Warhammer 40k so that it's not too Star Warsy, and the goal is kind of "Starhammer." For example, instead of lightsabers they wield psi-swords that convert psychic energy into a force blade that disintegrates matter, like the Librarians of 40k.

[Anonymous No.14424932]

>>14424612
Thats cool, but you don't get that impression from the cover you posted. The combination of darkside and the lightsabers is what will fuck you hard. Do one or the other, Gundam for example has been ripping off lightsabers for 40 years but no one cares because you can't mistake it for starwars.

[Anonymous No.14425001]

Which of these sounds most profitable to you?

[Anonymous No.14425094]

>>14425001
The last one but only if it ends with suicide.

[Anonymous No.14425102]

>>14424932
Oh, like I said, that's not the actual title, nor the actual cover. The actual title is "Xanthari's Rogue."

The art is some random chick cosplaying as a Sith. Its more inspirational than anything else, like a feel of what you'll get. Namely, sexy goth chicks who can kill you with their brains and laser sword battles.

Eventually I'll commission some art, and the swords will look more like pic attached, and they won't be color coded for your convenience. They're all red to white, depending on the power level of the wielder (another major difference from lightsabers, which don't vary in damage potential).

[Anonymous No.14425739]

>>14425102
At least post a snippet

[Anonymous No.14426171]

>>14425102
Yea. Post a snippet so I can steal it and publish it as my own. I swear my name isn't Harmon Cooper or anything. I didn't steal and poorly implement ideas from William D Arand.

[Anonymous No.14426473]

>>14425001
last one and the wolf girl one for the furries unless she is 90% human looking and the only wolf part of her is her ears and tail. No faggot paws and shit

[Anonymous No.14426483]

>>14426171
Does cooper really do that? Has Arand called him out on it?

[Anonymous No.14426487]

>>14426483
Yes he does. He just mixes it up just enough to get away with it. But to be fair, he’s not the only one who does that.

[Anonymous No.14426616]

>>14426171
I just want to see how hard he'll get reamed by The Mouse.

[Anonymous No.14426651]

>>14425739
You want a sample? I'll give you a sample! In this scene, the protagonist Devo has been rescued by Grendel Starwise and brought aboard Grendel's ship, the Imperator, and asked for a fresh of clothes.

>Tearing open the package, Devo found a sleeveless yellow jumpsuit, underwear, socks and a pair of black boots. A wrist chronometer, a red web belt, and a strange multi-tiered hat made of hard plastic, also red, that fastened to the head by means of a chin strap completed the outfit.
>Yellow wasn't his favor color, nor jumpsuits his style, but it was still a better option for exploring the ship than a towel. Except for the hat, which was absurd. Devo pulled it off and whipped it into a waste receptacle with a satisfying crash.

Zoomers will not get the joke.

[Anonymous No.14426684]

>>14425739
Here's a real sample:

The security station was really more of wide than usual section of hallway than an actual room. Weapon lockers lined one long section of wall, across from them were four emergency turbolifts that would speed crewman to the escape pods. In the middle of the four lift entrances was an alcove lined with security monitors. A curved podium covered in controls stood before the alove, and behind the podium stood a young man in the white and black uniform of the Galactic Commonwealth. The flair on his jacket identified him as Junior Ensign Foxe.

Devo smiled at the young man, giving him a friendly nod of the head, then head straight for one of the weapon lockers, trying the door. Naturally it was locked.

“Excuse me, sir?” asked the Junior Ensign. “What are you doing?”

Devo gave him his best innocent look. “I was grabbing a gun.”

Foxe's mouth gaped like a fish, nonplussed by Devo's honesty. After an embarrassingly long moment, he found his words again.

“Sir, you can't just take a gun.”

“But I need a gun,” Devo explained, walking over to the podium. “You see, I'm unarmed. I'm practically naked.”

“Only authorized personal can carry sidearms,” Foxe protested weakly.

“What if someone attacks me? How will I defend myself?”

“You're on a Commonwealth destroyer, sir,” Foxe said nervously, clearly confused. “You're perfectly safe, and not, you're not authorized. Sir.”

“Oh, I'm authorized. Master Starwise authorized me,” Devo said, stepping around the podium and reaching for the secure access terminal. “Look me up.”

1/2

[Anonymous No.14426690]

>>14425102
“Sir, please, you can't touch that,” Foxe said, shooing Devo's hand away. Foxe put his hand on a scanner, which flashed with green light, and the access terminal screen changed to show a menu of options. Foxe punched in a series of commands, bringing up a submenu. “What's your name?”

“Devo Serif,” Devo said, smiling. He clapped the young man on the back, noting that they were about the same size. “My friends call me Devo.”

Devo's face appeared on the screen, an old photo from before his time on Güngalor, when he still looked healthy. The Junior Ensign began reading Devo's file, while Devo surreptitiously checked the hall to make sure he had no witnesses, slidding his hand from Foxe's shoulder to the nape of his neck

“Sir, this says you're supposed to be confined to your-”

The ensign's head bounced off the security podium with a loud thwack. The young man crumpled instantly, slumping to the ground behind podium as Devo went to work. With access to a security terminal, Devo had access to most of the ship's information systems.

2/2

[Anonymous No.14426710]

>>14426684
>>14426690
reads like homosex fanfiction until the very end. what the fuck anon

[Anonymous No.14426734]

>>14426710
Uh...you may have homosex on the brain there, anon.

[Anonymous No.14426745]

Is there a chart about books with male mc harem and actual fucking? Like LN's but something actually happens? Because let's be honest you read those books to bust a nut and if they can't help with that it's a waste of both time and money.

Tldr: recommend me some shit with actual harem & sex please

[Anonymous No.14426755]

>>14426745
Daniel black
Wild wastes
Celestine chronicles
Heartgem homestead
Heartstone saga
Herald of Shalia

[Anonymous No.14426765]

>>14426745
thats every book in the thread kek

[Anonymous No.14426853]

>>14421904
your protag is too much of a chad bro. Need to make him more relatable to sell.

[Anonymous No.14426916]

>>14426690
These guys have some shitty-ass security

[Anonymous No.14427126]

>>14424510
Looks cool.

[Anonymous No.14427186]

Anything with humiliation and sex in public or deep throating?

[Anonymous No.14427235]

>>14426916
Well, they're on board a star destroyer sized warship. Internal security is pretty light because there shouldn't be anyone on board who isn't supposed to be on board, and this security station isn't really meant to provide internal security -- its a rally point in case the ship is boarded, where crew can arm up and scan the decks for intruders. (All of which is explained before this scene.)

That's the whole reason Foxe is so confused by Devo's approach -- rando civilians walking up to take guns out of the weapons locker is just not something that's supposed to happen.

Should I make that more clear? I'm always worried about overwriting scenes, but sometimes that leads me to underwriting them.

[Anonymous No.14427303]

>>14427235
I'm thinking that kind of armoury would be especially vigilantly watched. At the very least I think he'd give a superior a call first.

[Anonymous No.14427583]

>>14427235
To me it seems like how a non serious comedy movie would play out where there is no need to show how an actual military facility would do things because the movie is non serious. While in the real world, even in the future, no military doctrine would ever be so casual and unsecured like in your scenario. Armories are heavily regulated and locked up. People in charge keep records of everything and are behind barriers.

I know you are not making a realistic military novel but the suspension of belief can only take people so far until they go "wtf thats absurd" Even for /litrpg/ works.

[Anonymous No.14427676]

>>14426690
>>14427583
I agree. While not terrible, it's right there in the edge of what I accept for my suspension of disbelief. I'd totally buy it if it was a ship from an incompetent nation that has no naval doctrine, but I wouldn't believe it if it was a serious expansionist or militaristic empire at war.

I hope you get to finish it. I'll totally read it. I really miss sci-fi, fantasy is all that's coming out recently.

[Anonymous No.14428809]

bump

[Anonymous No.14429567]

>>14424046
I think that /trash's/ writefag or caption threads might have some.

[Anonymous No.14430432]

Dying thread gasp

[Anonymous No.14430454]

Anything with humiliation and sex in public or deepthroating?

[Anonymous No.14430470]

>>14430454
Try your mothers diary.

[Anonymous No.14430493]

Get this basedboy garbage out of /lit/

[Anonymous No.14430497]

>>14430454
wild wastes

[Anonymous No.14430917]

Ok so far. Didn't quite blow me away but after being starved for more Cradle knockoffs I just had to try it.
Will probably continue reading when the author does a second book.
there is one problem though:
>the loli 17 year old grows up again
Reeeeee

[Anonymous No.14431013]

How long should it take to get to the first sex scene?

[Anonymous No.14431053]

>>14413256
Because they're not light novels and they're better written. To be honest you shouldn't be reading any of this shit but don't pretend the stuff ITT isn't miles better than anything written in Japan in the last 20 years.

[Anonymous No.14431176]

>>14431013
Depends on plot pacing, flirting and innuendo between protag and females should be set up immediately, with one or two highly sexual moments to string along the reader before the first full blown sex scene, which should't be more than 20 pages in.

[Anonymous No.14431208]

>he hasn't yet written a 700'000 word self-insert urban fantasy series

[Anonymous No.14431368]

>>14431208
Has anyone?

[Anonymous No.14431484]

>>14424046
>deepthroating
John Blake.

[Anonymous No.14431502]

>>14430917
>spoiler
Yeah, I was really pissed off too. The author gives himself every opportunity, every goddamn opportunity, to do the legal loli stuff, but he chickens out. God fucking damn him. Fuck! And I'm not even into lolis, to be honest. But it's such a wasted opportunity.

Other than that, it's the best chinkshit after cradle. Not great, but not that bad. A little bit forgettable, though.

[Anonymous No.14432142]

>>14431484
I only found a couple of his books for download

[Anonymous No.14432250]

>>14432142
There are three volumes released in book format, the rest can be found on literotica.

[Anonymous No.14432258]

>>14432250
Actually 4 volumes.

https://www.amazon.com/-/pt/gp/product/B076668Z2T

[Anonymous No.14433490]

To page 10 we go.

[Anonymous No.14433535]

>>14433490
Never. The Zombie Thread must shamble on.

[Anonymous No.14433536]

>>14433490
no

[Anonymous No.14433613]

>>14433490
Cuck wish fulfilment valiantly charging towards page 10!

[Anonymous No.14433645]

So what's a good book I can jerk off really slowly to?

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !YwRRnsRAu2 No.14433683]

>>14433645
death to all jezebelposters

[Anonymous No.14433923]

>>14433683
Complete fail impersonation

[Anonymous No.14434640]

It can't end like this!

[Anonymous No.14435088]

Why do all of those guys use those ludacris names for their pen names?

[Anonymous No.14435381]

Few days ago /litrpg/ was active but now these threads are fucking dead. What happened bros

[Anonymous No.14435849]

What the fuck is a "Western Harem" genre?

[Anonymous No.14435853]

>>14435849
Cowboys stealing all the native women.

[Anonymous No.14435855]

>>14408346
How would define the morals of the average Xianxia protagonist? Is it some kind of chinky "honor my famaree" sort of thing or is it deeper then that.

[Anonymous No.14435873]

>>14435381
Novelty wore off. The actual amount of people interested in this junk was a small portion of /sffg/ which itself is a small portion of /lit/.
When the threads started people poked their heads in out of curiosity, but have since left because they were done shitposting, disgusted by the actual stories when they sat down to sample them or picked up some masturbation material and left.

What's left is likely that original small portion of /sffg/, some outer /lit/ that only lurks with some consideration as to the profits they might find here, and maybe a visiting /a/non who ran out of light novel translations to read.

[Anonymous No.14435911]

>>14435873
At least in regular SFF you might find something not horribly written

[Anonymous No.14435944]

Sometimes a couple posters will post together 200+ posts of thread. Unfortunately there isn't a an "average posts per IP address" alongside the poster count.

[Anonymous No.14435965]

>>14435855
What almost every protagonist follows is repay kindness with kindness and enmity with enmity. And family isn't really that big a deal mostly because rarely does the mc even have a family. Usually it's more about his friends and allies and his harem if he has one.
So if you're nice to the protagonist he'll treat you well, and usually repay all his debts many times over.
If you piss him off, it'll end up with your entire extended family dying.

The problem is the writing which usually sucks. Good characters will be forgotten about eventually when the protagonist outranks them in strength, or worse they'll just come back to cause drama by getting captured or killed.
On the other hand the enemies/young masters are usually motivated by vanity and pride. Like in one case the mc comes to the equivalent of the adventurer's guild to take their test and aces it, the vain young master is triggered by because he's not used to being second best and tries to get him killed.
And then it ends up with him dying, and all of young master's wealth becomes the mc's wealth. And then the young master's parents come after him too, and then the clan behind the parents, and then the super clan behind the clan, and so on and all of their wealth goes into the mc's pocket as well.
This is very common, and it's usually just used to give the mc a righteous explanation to go around killing and stealing to become stronger.
In better novels the mc acts like a prick on purpose to rile people up and attract big fishes so he can have justification to kill them. But most novels don't even bother with that.

Xianxia is so close to being really fucking hype to read if you love stories with fighting and growing stronger to fight even more. But bad writing fucks over the vast majority of the novels. It's so sad.
And all the advantages of the world building are rarely used to their greatest potential, or even completely forgotten about to cause drama.
I love xianxia anyway though.

>>14435873
I feel like the /a/ threads are good enough. Web novels usually have frequent updates which allows even daily threads to always have new stuff to talk about.
This thread has just been people asking for recommendations and almost no discussion.

[Anonymous No.14435986]

>>14435965
I mean, what's there to actually discuss here aside from recommendations?
At best, it's a young genre where there hasn't been time for classics to even form. What hidden gems may exist haven't had time to propagate. At worse, and likely at present, it's a genre that seems to strive to be all the things that literature ain't, where the works are devoid of themes that might distract from the cheaper thrills and the language strives to keep itself as simple as it can be so that it doesn't go over any heads.

I don't know if a rebranding to general independently published fiction would save things by inviting in Worm fans or whatever, but it doesn't seem like this place ever had long to live. Maybe some OP template would help it, a book of the week or whatever, but I wouldn't hedge bets on this making another thread.

May be for the best.

[Anonymous No.14436089]

>>14435965
That was a good description, thank you. I'm also totally gonna write one now. But it will be furry.

[Anonymous No.14436374]

>>14408346
>>14410209
>>14435965

How do you even have time to read this shit. I looked up one of the recommended books in the thread and it was like 400 chapters long. Fuck that shit.

[Anonymous No.14436461]

>>14436374
Each chapter is only a page or two long and there's a lot of superfluous writing because the writers are paid per word so you can skim past very easily.
They're great if you have a short attention span too. Even though they're 1200+ pages long they're super easy to read.

[Anonymous No.14436538]

A thread of this is fun every now and then.
No need to make a general out of it since generals are usually cancerous as shit.

[Anonymous No.14436745]

>>14436538
What's to discuss? It's 95%+ badly written smut. Have a wank, move on.

[Anonymous No.14436772]

>>14400760
A novel about a bunch of dark elves slavers inspired by a porn game from /dgg/.

I'm not proud of it, nor I can stop, at this point so I will just go deeper and maybe I will snap out of this writing trance I'm in right now.

[Anonymous No.14436986]

>>14400760
There hasn't been an RPG video game with good creator tools since Neverwinter Nights almost 20 years ago, and that's a shame.
It seems silly to me to write a "gamey" fantasy novel, but as I'm finding out it's actually a fairly succesful niche, I'm not going to disagree with people who pay for it
So a question, do you think your favorite book, or your own, would work better as a video game or pnp campaign?

[Anonymous No.14437950]

>>14436986
Doesn't Divinity Original Sin 1 & 2 come with mod tools / editor ?