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/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General Anonymous Tue Oct 8 02:15:10 2019 No.13955200 [Reply] [Original]

Monthly Reading For October: Quantum Thief
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Resources
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Previous threads:
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>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 02:19:41 2019 No.13955211 >>13955200 As this general is slowly dying finally fantasy will be removed from /lit/.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 02:19:46 2019 No.13955212 >>13955200 sci fi gay haha

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 02:21:17 2019 No.13955214 >>13955200 Do you faggots even like fantasy. Is fantasy even literature

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 02:23:44 2019 No.13955217 >>13955211 Nah >>13948111 >>13954742 >>13953891 Without a general there would simply be many more threads about it. I don't think you understand how this works.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 02:25:28 2019 No.13955221 >>13955217 Without a general those threads would only be people calling all this books not literature.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 02:26:41 2019 No.13955224 >>13955221 Good job changing the goalpost from "removed from /lit/" to "calling them books not literature"

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 02:31:25 2019 No.13955238 File: 169 KB, 596x873, 1569620333456.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How did you mismanage so horribly? Did everyone decent go to a discord?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 02:34:03 2019 No.13955245 >>13955238 i join readalongs on goodreads

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 02:34:19 2019 No.13955246 >>13955238 They scattered all over. Why haven't you left?

None !!KnNTdR2QCe4 Tue Oct 8 02:34:30 2019 No.13955249

>>13955217
I'm the anon who made the first law thread. I'll put the trip on temporarily for proof. I'm just a newfag who didn't think to look for a general. But now I've found it. Still, I feel like seperate threads should be allowed, in order to escape the autism that generals naturally generate. There's just something "mungy" about generals. Like a room that hasn't been aired out in months. Anyway, I just came to see what good books there are. Since I don't know where to start, or what to try.

>>	None !9985753502 Tue Oct 8 02:37:21 2019 No.13955265 >>13955249 You certainly can make separate threads.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 02:41:49 2019 No.13955277 >>13955238 At least you're aware that you aren't decent.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 02:42:59 2019 No.13955284 >>13955238 What management would there even be?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 02:44:57 2019 No.13955291 File: 342 KB, 500x850, monthly reading.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Once more posting on time. Next step: Start reading on time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 02:46:56 2019 No.13955299 >>13955249 I'd vastly prefer if you discussed The First Law outside of the general desu

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 02:57:30 2019 No.13955322 >>13955299 Don't worry. I wasn't very impressed by it. Not much to say.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 03:09:04 2019 No.13955341 >>13955322 (checked) Oh. Welcome to /sffg/ then!

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 04:55:42 2019 No.13955567 >>13955249 Read Bakker’s prince of nothing. Consider it your first homework assignment.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 05:36:58 2019 No.13955644 Is RJ Barker actually another pseudonym of KJ Parker?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 06:14:41 2019 No.13955729 >>13955567 I always hated doing homework. Besides, I already started something else.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 06:22:23 2019 No.13955745 Okay sodomites, I have a request. I want to read a book about aliens, but it has to be scary. But I'm not talking about cosmic horror ala Smith or the man with the nigger cat.

Anonymous Tue Oct 8 06:30:50 2019 No.13955769
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Can anyone recommend me some Gene Wolfe books that are primarily science fiction like The Fifth Head of Cerberus? I read it recently and enjoyed it, but most of his works that I see discussed seem to be (in whole or part) fantasy works, which is a genre I don't particularly care for.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 06:38:56 2019 No.13955781 >>13955769 Most of them, and most notably BotNS, are actually sci-fi beneath a fantasy surface.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 06:44:56 2019 No.13955802 >>13955781 I tried reading Peace after Cerberus and did not like it at all.

Anonymous Tue Oct 8 06:55:02 2019 No.13955825

>>13955802
I have actually not read Peace, from what I've gathered it's the Wolfe equivalent of heroin into the balls. I also really liked Cerberus and would recommend reading BotNS if you have not and can muster some fantasy. I'd also recommend his short story collection with the gracious name The Island of Doctor Death and Other Stories and Other Stories.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 06:57:04 2019 No.13955830 >>13955769 Some of his short stories are more sci-fi, but he usually mixed sci-fi and fantasy in both his long and short fiction. The short story 'The Death of Doctor Island' may be up your alley.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 07:00:46 2019 No.13955837 >>13955825 >>13955830 Thanks

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 07:31:24 2019 No.13955930 >>13955745 Stephen King had an alien villain in Dreamcatcher.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 07:33:33 2019 No.13955937 >>13955930 Bro, It was an alien.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 07:40:40 2019 No.13955956 >>13955745 Hull zero three

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 07:55:01 2019 No.13955990 >>13955937 i mean yeah but he specifically requested non-cosmic horror

Anonymous Tue Oct 8 08:03:44 2019 No.13956013

>>13955200
>no thread prompt
What a fucking joke. Good thing all the dumbass irrelevant charts and anon's biased monthly club is continually posted. Great that the previous threads are included so newfriends can see what a clusterfuck of newfaggotry these threads are.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 08:10:59 2019 No.13956029 >>13955211 >>13956013 /sffg/ has been "dying" for years.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 08:27:04 2019 No.13956069 >>13956013 What so you expect? Sffg is a memory that hasn't realized that it is forgotten.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 08:44:20 2019 No.13956112 The Thousand Names, is it good?

Anonymous Tue Oct 8 08:49:48 2019 No.13956134
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I go through a cycle of reading a few Wheel of Time books, getting pissed off with it, dropping them for a year, then getting sucked back in.
Just baught book 12 someone help me I dont want to read Sanderfag.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 08:52:14 2019 No.13956141 >>13956134 What about the rape of nippon females?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 08:55:45 2019 No.13956154 >>13956134 Try reading it. It's cathartic in a way since Jesus Rand

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 09:01:29 2019 No.13956174 >>13956134 I can't blame. It's a tiresome read.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 09:12:09 2019 No.13956213 >>13956112 >Elite company of soldiers made up solely of Females up 2 u m8

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 09:16:35 2019 No.13956231 >>13956213 >cunny is only good for fucking

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 09:20:32 2019 No.13956244 >>13955200 Are there English editions of the LotR books with these covers? I remember seeing them on Spanish or Portuguese translations. Would be cool to have them in English

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 09:28:53 2019 No.13956277 >>13956231 In Powder Mage it made sense, a Powder Mage will fuck up anyone and can literally stop bullets with their mind. But a bunch of ordinary people using swords and bayonets in a big push and shove melee is just an eyeroll.

Anonymous Tue Oct 8 09:36:22 2019 No.13956293

Why is it that western science fiction consists solely of static, cardboard "characters" that exist only to convey the author's scientific ideas, whereas Japan is capable of producing character-driven science fiction that can express similar or better ideas with with three-dimensional, dynamic characters?

Anonymous Tue Oct 8 09:38:05 2019 No.13956294

>>13956293
Because western sci-fi is a dead genre whose primary target audience is autists who can't relate to characters regardless of how well developed they are, so authors just don't both. On the other hand, Japanese sci-fi is usually just Space Fantasy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 09:40:34 2019 No.13956300 >>13956293 Recommend some good Japanese character-driven sci-fi.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 09:42:13 2019 No.13956303 >>13956293 >why is it, as someone who only likes /a/, that I find anime better than books in the west >lolis with railguns and fetal alcohol syndrome eyes are the characters that drive stories

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 09:44:07 2019 No.13956309 Read Kingdom Bloodlines.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 09:45:42 2019 No.13956311 >>13956300 I actually don't know any books and was referring to visual novels. Is that okay? I don't think much of their actual science fiction literature gets translated anyway. >>13956303 Not talking about anime you faggot.

Anonymous Tue Oct 8 09:49:39 2019 No.13956325
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>>13956311
>come to thread about books on a board about books
>complain about lack of certain feature in western works, praise Japanese works
>literally can't recommend a single Japanese book

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 09:50:59 2019 No.13956331 >>13956311 Visual novels is static anime, you faggot cunt.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 09:52:52 2019 No.13956336 >>13956325 If you know any character driven science fiction novels please tell me what they are, because so far I've only found that in VNs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 09:56:20 2019 No.13956346 >>13956300 Alita

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 10:01:44 2019 No.13956363 >>13956336 Hyperion and Roadside Picnic comes to mind, supposing you want more introductory works.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 10:03:12 2019 No.13956370 >>13956346 >/lit/ - Literature & Manga

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 10:10:34 2019 No.13956395 File: 11 KB, 173x151, smug anime girl.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'd read One Piece translated into purely text.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 10:11:34 2019 No.13956401 >>13956346 >>13956311 >>13956293 You need to go back >>>/a/

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 10:12:35 2019 No.13956403 >>13956395 Considering how unappealing the art is, I might actually enjoy it that way, too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 10:13:58 2019 No.13956411 What should I expect for the The First Law?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 10:15:54 2019 No.13956422 >>13956411 I don't think anyone will buy it from you, might want to consider giving it away for free or together with another book to garner interest.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 10:18:16 2019 No.13956436 >>13956411 Grim and dark setting where everyone can’t stop talking about how grim and dark it is.

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Anonymous Tue Oct 8 10:29:37 2019 No.13956477

>>13956444
People who write novel length reviews on goodreads are attention seeking trannies. No one reads through all that shit. It isn’t half as clever as you think it is. Your time and energy would be better spent doing anything else. It’s worse than huffing your own farts.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 10:41:13 2019 No.13956529 >>13956477 80+ people read through it and liked it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 10:49:49 2019 No.13956554 >>13956411 A decent journey with some based characters, some terrible characters and a non ending.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 10:50:59 2019 No.13956559 >>13956309 What's it about?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 10:51:54 2019 No.13956564 >>13956013 No one really ever discussed the prompts

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 10:53:32 2019 No.13956569 new video up, and boy is it a banger! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI3nSzViDSA

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 10:55:19 2019 No.13956577 >>13956277 Nothing makes me drop a book faster than gender parity in armies, especially if the author takes himself too seriously (Miles fucking Cameron can suck my dick). In goofy shit like Malazan or WoT it doesn't really bother me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 10:56:22 2019 No.13956580 >>13956569 I want to kick this cunts teeth down his throat and I dont know why.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 10:57:51 2019 No.13956588 >>13956529 Yeah that’s exactly my point. If you’re so starved for attention that you post shitty fanfic disguised as a review to goodreads just so 80 people will half-read it then click the like button, you’re a fucking loser.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 11:02:42 2019 No.13956614 >>13956477 That review is unironically a better piece of literature that the entirety of First Law.

Anonymous Tue Oct 8 11:02:56 2019 No.13956619

The anons who would post quality content leave after a while, so it all depends on new ones replacing them. Why do they leave? Because humans respond to incentives. Few want to take a lot of time and effort to do something that isn't appreciated, valued, or otherwise doesn't seem worthwhile. Thus, the quality content withers and all that remains is low quality content of effort and posters who derive all their enjoyment from attacking others or pushing an agenda.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 11:08:49 2019 No.13956643 Any great books that describe reality being bent or broke? I want something really outlandish.

Anonymous Tue Oct 8 11:09:31 2019 No.13956646

>>13956614
That’s a very contrarian and interesting opinion you’ve expressed. I’m sure friends, coworkers and, most importantly, attractive women value your opinions highly.

Honestly though, even if Abercrombie is shit (which he is) at least he used his time and energy to write a book that (some) people enjoy. The guy who wrote that goodreads review didn’t create anything. It’s a limp-wristed, ironic and unfunny waste of time. That Roosevelt quote about the man in the arena might as well have been directed at that reviewer specifically.

Anonymous Tue Oct 8 11:10:02 2019 No.13956649

>>13956619
Furthermore what isn't allowed elsewhere ends up here while many of the better posters would rather remain elsewhere. This increasingly becomes the bastion of those who no place ever will accept. It's not even the misfits, the outcasts, and those with unconventional ideas any longer. It's primarily "There are souls that, crablike, crawl continually toward darkness, going backward in life rather than advancing, using their experience to increase their deformity, growing continually worse, and becoming steeped more and more thoroughly in an intensifying viciousness." Les Miserables by Victor Hugo

Anonymous Tue Oct 8 11:15:05 2019 No.13956680

>>13956646
>attractive women value your opinions highly
I actually told my gf about how bad I think Abercrombie and she obviously agreed because why would a girl like books targeted at repressed 16 year olds. On the other hand she claim to have enjoyed The Broken Empire so I'm not sure what to do of the whole thing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 11:18:17 2019 No.13956694 >>13956680 >completely ignores the post he’s responding to >mentions his girlfriend Congrats dude. You found a fat girl who can pretend to tolerate you for a while. Doesn’t change anything I said.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 11:19:32 2019 No.13956702 >>13956580 >hating on based Greene Daniel whats it like to be such a sad sack of shit?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 11:19:52 2019 No.13956705 >>13956619 Most of the chart-posting anons have been here for ages and judging from the writing style I think the anons who post long lists of books with reviews/thoughts have also. Not sure what other quality content there is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 11:27:30 2019 No.13956741 File: 52 KB, 476x432, shiggy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13956694 There wasn't really anything else in the post worth a reply desu

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 11:33:25 2019 No.13956770 >>13956741 >desu >costanza >fat gf >loves ironic goodreads posting Were you always on NPC? Or did you consciously empty yourself of all original thought and honest emotion? Is it better on the other side?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 11:35:15 2019 No.13956782 >>13956705 Most of the charts are terrible and no one cares about the long lists about books with reviews and thoughts. They seem like something to care about, so they pretend to, but they don't.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 11:37:28 2019 No.13956798 >>13956770 >Is it better on the other side? >asking a question requiring self-awareness to someone you accuse of having no self-awareness

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 11:37:47 2019 No.13956799 >>13956705 >Most of the chart-posting anons have been here for ages Most charts are anon's personal recommendations, which reeks of newfaggotry.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 11:39:58 2019 No.13956807 It's in our nature to destroy ourselves It's in our nature to kill ourselves It's in our nature to kill each other It's in our nature to kill, kill, kill

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 11:42:39 2019 No.13956818 >>13956798 I just realized why you’re talking past me. It’s because I’m trying to communicate in words and ideas. Let me try this again with dead language and empty memes: Drag him I’m ded Yasssss I can’t even Go off sis

Anonymous Tue Oct 8 11:49:09 2019 No.13956845

>>13956818
Is this postmodern pottery?
Let me try:
Dab on the hater,
Mom get the camera,
Don't Be Rama Rama,
We call the leaders of Ngaanyatjarra Lands
You don't sniff petrol from a can
You put your petrol in the car it stays
Don't be rama rama it's messing with your brains.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 11:51:20 2019 No.13956859 >>13956845 This isn’t clever or funny. And even if it was, it’d still be a waste. You’re a waste.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 11:56:49 2019 No.13956873 >>13956782 OK, so what is quality content to you? >>13956799 They have been recommending the same books for years and making the same arguments.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 12:20:04 2019 No.13956988 File: 602 KB, 680x1021, She's waiting.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13956770 >Is it better on the other side? Yes, join me

Anonymous Tue Oct 8 12:55:19 2019 No.13957151

>>13956770
>calling someone an NPC just because they happen to like popular stuff
I'll never understand people like you. Just because someone has a similar thought to someone else doesn't mean it's invalid. Likewise, just because you have thoughts that go against the norm or the grain, doesn't mean that anyone actually gives a shit or that your opinion holds more weight.
Especially when you're such a smug little faggot about it, calling people NPCs and asking "if it's better on the other side".

Anonymous Tue Oct 8 13:00:59 2019 No.13957173
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Tight pussy part 2 is out Oct 22. Anybody care?
Has the years of delays gutted your hype?
Do you think he is going to turn a then 3 books series, now 5 books, into 7?
Do you think him writing a book dedicated to the tight pussy of a girl he was trying to smash got him access?
Are you disgusted with traditional publishing and their stretching of a book's release date to years in the future to improve profits at the cost of their reader's enjoyment?

Anonymous Tue Oct 8 13:09:21 2019 No.13957207

>>13956588
You didn't read the series did you? That book was a stinker, and the reviewer captured exactly what was happening in the book with that "fanfiction".
You're just mad that review got 80+ more people liking it's fanfiction and commenting, than you got when you posted your shitty fantasy piece online.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 13:11:57 2019 No.13957221 >>13957151 Never said he was an npc because he liked popular stuff. Called him an npc because he’s filled himself with memes and delivers lines instead of thoughts. This is lit. I thought reading comprehension was a pre-requisite here.

Anonymous Tue Oct 8 13:13:31 2019 No.13957226
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>>13957173
Just waiting for it to arrive. I've only just recently read the entire series (finished book 4 maybe two months ago) for the first time so the delays are irrelevant to me at least. As for the story, people that got an advanced reviewers copy have already said that the story has a hard end, and that it's the end of the Lightbringer saga and other than a few minor loose ends everything is wrapped up.

Also
>implying his wife isn't the one with the tight vag syndrome
cmon bro, he does the "i know a few friends that have it and i've even been to doctors before when its discussed" is pretty clearly talking about his wife.

Anonymous Tue Oct 8 13:14:24 2019 No.13957230

>>13957207
I read the first book. I thought it was shit. I then moved on with my life, reading other things, some I enjoyed, some I didn’t enjoy.

What I didn’t do was spend my time posting a “clever” review online about the experience, so 80 other losers would give me imaginary online points.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 13:23:44 2019 No.13957270 >>13957230 >this mad people would like other people's work when they ignored his Kek

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 13:27:42 2019 No.13957290 >>13957270 >calling a goodreads review “work” If your life’s work is posting on goodreads you need to reassess.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 13:29:07 2019 No.13957295 >>13956702 I'm coming for your premolars Danny boy

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 13:31:06 2019 No.13957305 @13957290 I see its (you)s you want to collect. The distribution ends here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 13:33:43 2019 No.13957316 >>13957305 >consuming something and having an opinion about it is the same as creating something >nothing matters as much as online points (either Likes or You’s) Honestly I hope you’re trolling now. Cause if you’re not, I feel sorry for you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 13:45:42 2019 No.13957375 >>13957305 >>13957316 just fuck already

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 13:46:30 2019 No.13957380 >>13957173 I’m gonna read it, but I feel like there’s no way everything can wrapped up decently in one book. Too much shit up in the air.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 13:54:57 2019 No.13957416 >>13957380 Final battle is 4 way battle between the Lightbringer, The Black Prism, The Omni Prism, Orholams' Champion You'll never believe who any of those 4 are, except the Black Prism, which is clearly been stated to be Dazen.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 13:56:41 2019 No.13957432 >>13957416 Orholams' Champion is Koios. Lightbringer is Andross Omni Prism is Kip Andross, the Lightbringer wins.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 14:03:44 2019 No.13957481 >>13957226 does the MC ever stop being a massive pussy?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 14:07:35 2019 No.13957505 >>13957481 Yeah he stops around halfway through book two or maybe the first quarter of book 3. I forget exactly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 14:10:49 2019 No.13957523 File: 1.10 MB, 1080x1440, JoeAbercrombieRacingThruPlots.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13956411

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 14:12:04 2019 No.13957530 >>13956614 This is absolute truth.

Anonymous Tue Oct 8 14:13:12 2019 No.13957537

>>13957481
No, and he dies like a bitch. Teia is at the final battle with her paryl invisibility, appears at a vital moment to stop Kip from killing Koios, and in the heat of things, throws her aside as Dazen is ready to stab and kill her with the Blinding Knife. Blinding Knife goes into Kip instead, sapping him of his Chromaturgy and killing him. He's not even in the last 1/5th of the book

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 14:17:03 2019 No.13957566 >>13957221 >I thought reading comprehension was a pre-requisite here. Then why are you here?!? Also, it's prerequisite. Spelling is also important when it comes to reading comprehension.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 14:28:39 2019 No.13957607 >>13957416 >>13957432 >>13957537 yeah that all sounds about right given the author and how he just pulls twists out of his ass with no logical reason or build up

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 14:29:06 2019 No.13957609 >>13956134 The Sanderhack books were actually more readable than the Jordan ones.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 14:49:19 2019 No.13957695 >>13956680 Okay, well my girlfriend, who is hotter than yours with bigger tiddies, thought they were good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 14:56:06 2019 No.13957718 >>13957537 FUCK Brent Weeks if that is true. All those years for this shit? He watched too much games of Incests if the actually happened.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 15:08:07 2019 No.13957776 >>13957537 Ok but how does the tight pussy figure into this? Does her tightness make kip super resilient? Does he use his newfound knowledge of tight wet holes to his benefit? These are the answers I expect lightbringer to provide.

Anonymous Tue Oct 8 15:14:08 2019 No.13957803

>>13957718
The fact that Andross wins and basically becomes the new figure-head of the religion as the "True Lightbringer" is absolutely fucking stupid given the context of the rest of the story.

Also this tidbit that I picked up on
Cruxa and basically the entire squad, including Triss, are killed by a night raid by a sole Zymun, who then taunts Kip, causing Kip to snap mentally and kill Zymun by will-jacking him(??? no idea how that works)
Nearly every faction that's been built up is irrelevant because the clash of the 4 "gods" towards the end is akin to a nuke going off and absolutely obliterates everything with a sizable distance from their battleground in the white mists, to a point where people a few hundred meters out from the Jaspers are killed in an instant blinding light

It's all a bunch of absolute horseshit. But we should have expected that after books 3 and especially 4.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 15:16:59 2019 No.13957822 >>13957776 She does a whole lot of absolute jack shit until she is killed alongside most of The Mighty during a night raid lead by a solo Zymun about 20 chapters into the book

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 15:19:15 2019 No.13957838 File: 45 KB, 369x499, 51cbfRuVkfL._SX367_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I really enjoy the Expanse series by James S.A Corey, are there similar scifi series you'd reccomend?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 15:29:56 2019 No.13957892 >>13957822 >>13957803 wow. absolutely FUCK Brent Weeks. what an absolute shitshow if any of this is even remotely true.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 15:30:27 2019 No.13957897 So basically, I should just skip Brent Weeks

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 15:33:48 2019 No.13957916 >>13957537 >it's literally a repeat of what happens at the end of Blinding Knife Can't even come up with a clever pun for Weeks except Weaks I guess. We'll call him Brent Weaks from now on, hows that sound?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 15:34:42 2019 No.13957923 >>13957838 I liked the armada wars

Anonymous Tue Oct 8 15:48:42 2019 No.13958017

Why are fantasy novels so unimaginative? Literally every other medium does fantasy better than THEE forerunner of fantasy. Every fantasy novel these days tries so hard to be "realistic" or ends up derivative. Or, barring those, is young adult garbage that, while imaginative, is poorly written and framed by some tween superhero protagonist.

This genre is dismal.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 16:06:34 2019 No.13958115 >>13958017 There's most likely well written, imaginative fantasy out there being published right now. But unlike the classics contemporary works have not yet been filtered through decades of elitists to figure out which ones are actually really good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 16:08:17 2019 No.13958120 >>13958017 The same reason music today is the same shit and why there is a lot of movie reboots

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 17:18:21 2019 No.13958459 >>13956029 Just like you

>>	thiskillsthedarkelf Tue Oct 8 18:21:07 2019 No.13958891 >>13956134 I swear the rape of nanjing, like the holocaust, gets worse every five years. Wheel of time was good as a teenager but I can't read it as an adult. >>13958017 Be the change you want to see anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 19:29:26 2019 No.13959327 This kills the dark elf, but he wouldn't even die from being killed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 20:54:50 2019 No.13959806 File: 2.64 MB, 1355x941, fitz 4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Thoughts on Realm of the Elderlings by Robin Hobb? I liked it since it was pretty damn brutal all the way through without relenting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 20:58:31 2019 No.13959821 >>13959806 I'm halfway trough the very first book and its pretty standard, not bad, but not particularly good either.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 21:02:31 2019 No.13959842 >>13959821 It gets better, but keep in mind, the first trilogy is definitely the most depressing out of the entire series. The reactions to all of it usually seem to be pretty one-sided, so I guess it depends on the person.

Anonymous Tue Oct 8 21:05:22 2019 No.13959858
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Is book of the fallen actually good or is it a meme trap. On one hand its kind of autistic to read 100000 pages of one work when you could be reading multiple smaller books, but if it's actually really good idk.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 21:36:56 2019 No.13960005 >>13956646 Oh my god you're stupid.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 22:24:19 2019 No.13960238 >>13956873 >OK, so what is quality content to you? Personalized recommendations that are accurate.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 22:28:00 2019 No.13960259 File: 153 KB, 312x475, 13616278.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this really any good?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 22:29:42 2019 No.13960272 Every thread is the same few books posted over and over again possibly by the same people pretending to be new people.

Anonymous Tue Oct 8 22:35:02 2019 No.13960300

Every thread is the same sisyphean task of answering about the same book over and over again as the only accepted answer is the one given in the here and now. All previous responses are null and void. Oftentimes it is one anon who decides for another anon whether they ought to read something. Is this accurate? Probably not. Does it matter? Seems not.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 22:53:15 2019 No.13960387 File: 2.64 MB, 3500x3500, 1561589251388.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13960272 I try to go out there and get fresh stuff for the general to consume, but I get ridiculed for it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 22:56:39 2019 No.13960405 >>13960387 Your charts are not fresh. Don't pretend they are. Even if they were, fresh does not mean good taste. For many durian may be new to then, but it is still foul to many, if not most.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 22:59:01 2019 No.13960417 >>13960387 You are ridiculed because your chart is nothing more than subjective trash with zero input from anybody else, you deluded faggot. Your taste is not indicative of /sffg/ as a whole.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 23:05:50 2019 No.13960461 >>13960405 >>13960387 But you cry out, "Sir, in the 107 days since I first posted this chart, this is only the 20th time that I have posted it! Surely that is still entirely fresh where few have seen it?"

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 23:27:58 2019 No.13960582 >>13960405 >>13960417 >>13960461 Post something you read this year that was never mentioned in the general.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 23:32:26 2019 No.13960606 File: 16 KB, 111x96, 1570540951269-lit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13960387 >Self published >Recommended by /SFFG/ Cringe

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 23:33:02 2019 No.13960613 >>13958017 Read the Chronicles of Thomas Covenant. Extremely weird lore but the emphasis is on the interior emotional journey of the characters.

Anonymous Tue Oct 8 23:34:33 2019 No.13960618

>>13960582
If I do short stories, that's extremely simple and cheating, since I assume you meant novels.

I would prefer not to because the only novels that I've read this year that I haven't posted in these threads are ones that I don't want to post about having read.

Anonymous Tue Oct 8 23:41:29 2019 No.13960659

It was a pleasure to post.
It was a special pleasure to see anons demoralized, to see them blackened and changed. With the keyboard under his fingers, with this great instrument spitting its venomous kerosene upon the thread, the blood pounded in his head, and his hands were the hands of some amazing conductor playing all the symphonies of blazing and burning to bring down the tatters and charcoal ruins of /sffg/. With his fingerless gloves numbered 666 on his stolid hands, and his eyes all orange flame with the thought of what came next, he flicked the igniter and the thread jumped up in a gorging fire that burned away all rationality, quality, and civility. He strode in a swarm of enraged anons. He wanted above all to endorse a hated meme book in the furnace of their fury, while the whinging serious posters died by the early posts of thread, and the hated meme book slowly became a beloved meme. While the thread went up in sparkling whirls and blew away on a wind turned dark with burning.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 23:43:34 2019 No.13960665 Wtf I love will wright now

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 23:44:43 2019 No.13960668 >>13960606 >traditional pub is shook he is no longer the gatekeeper to profits With Amazon and patreon anyone can realize their dream of being an author.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 23:46:43 2019 No.13960676 >>13960668 patreon and amazon are still gatekeepers starving author still requires actually doing the writing still requires an internet connection *still requires....

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 23:47:50 2019 No.13960678 >>13960668 Yes, now we're free to drown in mediocrity now that the dam has burst. We may all yet drown, but at least we liberated that water.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 8 23:49:01 2019 No.13960681 >>13960668 >My furry fapfic is just as good as real books

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 00:03:13 2019 No.13960746 Ever since I reas Clive Barker's Cabal I've been desperate to find something similar. I've read his other works but now I'm trying to find something by another author. Any recs?

Anonymous Wed Oct 9 00:13:39 2019 No.13960777

What I Read Today

The God Engines - John Scalzi (Novella)
Meh.
"The God Engines was a finalist for the 2009 Nebula Award for Best Novella and the 2010 Hugo Award for Best Novella Publishers Weekly called it "ferociously inventive, painfully vivid, dispassionately bleak and dreadfully memorable", and compared it to a collaboration between J.G. Ballard and H.P. Lovecraft."
I don't understand why it would be as such.
Personally, I thought it was rather silly and disagreeable world building, but I have a strong bias against "unknowable eldritch horrors". Though, that wasn't really the case of what they were in this story. I was indifferent to the reveal that the deity they worshiped was a malevolent deceiver that regularly consumed the souls of its worshipers and had enslaved mankind 1000s of years ago and tricked them into thinking their enslavement was religious piety because that's what my default assumption always is. The ending of there's always a greater god who is to your god what your god is to you made me roll my eyes for various reasons.

Archer's Sin - Amy Raby (Novella)
Some random novella in my calibre library from downloading stuff.
It's a whirlwind romance of strange female warmage archer in a strange land meets familiar warmage archer from a familiar land that takes places during an warmage archery tournament. Can their love at first sight survive through their competitive spirit against each other!? She wins the tournament but the misogynist says "No girls allowed!" so he wins instead but turns it down. The misogynist is them arrested by the emperor for unrelated corruption that had both discovered prior to him judging them. They then decide that since they've known each for less than 3 days, it's time to have sex then get married. Once they declare their marriage the Empress shows up and offers them to work for her in a secret spy organization. They accept, on the condition that they get to be together forever and have lots of children.
Pretty meh for me, but no doubt there's certain people who would really like it. Don't have any interest in the novels that go with this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 01:06:50 2019 No.13960979 second day on the momentum train. It's not coming out well but something's getting written

Anonymous Wed Oct 9 02:21:04 2019 No.13961151

>>13956577
Sometimes I like it, sometimes dislike it.
Even though I admit how highly unrealistic sometimes it's needed, Like the Kettral in Emperors Blades, though it is completely unrealistic I enjoyed the two female characters on Valyn's wing. It was probably necessary as if they weren't there Valyn literally would have spoken to only male characters all 3 books which would have been a bit boring tbqh. But in the same book I found Pierre, the female assassin a massive fucking cliche.

In Powder Mage sometimes it was good, like with Vlora etc. Sometimes just a big eyeroll Major Dorovir etc.

It sometimes works and sometimes fails spectacularly and can be annoying.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 02:25:39 2019 No.13961164 >>13960259 i liked it

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 02:36:50 2019 No.13961186 Does anyone have the Burning White ARC? Please upload it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 03:02:27 2019 No.13961271 >>13961186 >upload your personal book which has security features that can be linked back to you and prevent you from receiving further ARCs to me, a total stranger online

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 03:06:35 2019 No.13961279 >>13961271 An epub is literal html files (aka literal text files)

Anonymous Wed Oct 9 03:20:36 2019 No.13961311

>>13961271
deDRM tools strips the identifier. as soon as a file is imported in calibre or converted with the standalone tools the header is overwritten.
its literally just a number in the header of the file.
besides no action has ever been taken on cases where the identifier has been left in.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 05:12:46 2019 No.13961599 I am liking Semiosis so far and am excited for Interference

Anonymous Wed Oct 9 06:08:29 2019 No.13961730

>>13959858
>Is book of the fallen actually good or is it a meme trap
Read the first book, after that you will know whether or not the series is for you.
It's relatively short and pretty representative of the rest of the series, so you can just read it and know whether or not you should read the rest.

>On one hand its kind of autistic to read 100000 pages
Even with the side books it's sub 20.000 pages.

Anonymous Wed Oct 9 06:13:22 2019 No.13961740

>>13961279
>An epub is literal html files (aka literal text files)
Firstly, that isn't true, secondly that is irrelevant.
It's not true because an epub can contain, pictures, fonts, CSS, metadata and so forth and it's irrelevant because in a HTML file you can still have mechanisms to identify the origin.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 06:36:05 2019 No.13961801 >>13960259 No. Dont listen to Miles.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 07:04:32 2019 No.13961868 File: 127 KB, 1200x1600, s-l1600.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13956244 What I could find; Publication Details: Collins, Australia (2001) Edition: Reprint Binding: Medium Trade Paperback - 'B' Format - 3-volume set (complete)

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 07:14:22 2019 No.13961897 Cradle fucking sucks

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 07:28:36 2019 No.13961936 >>13961897 Read Reverend Insanity

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 07:44:24 2019 No.13962002 >>13961740 You can just grep that shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 09:22:19 2019 No.13962328 >>13962002 >>13961740 I wish I could code and be a cool hacker. Will listening to programming books help me be a 1337 programmer? I have a few c++ and python audiobooks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 09:54:00 2019 No.13962463 What you guys expecting this month? Nothing seems good.

Anonymous Wed Oct 9 10:10:07 2019 No.13962531

>>13962328
Programming is all application and practice. Unfortunately, a lot of the cool stuff is locked behind a skill barrier. Some people just have so much domain specific knowledge that they're literally the only people who know everything. But of course, it's something you can enjoy and improve at.

I like reading/drawing/writing code, it's much the same thing, you're creating something interesting.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 10:20:44 2019 No.13962568 >>13962328 audiobooks sound like the worst possible way to learn programming. you need to get hands on experience to learn programming. it's the only way

Anonymous Wed Oct 9 10:51:39 2019 No.13962681
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help, I can't remember a book. I've seen it posted on here before. It was written by some youtuber guy that I think has autism or something. Everything is super over described with specific numbers and autistic level of details for mundane shit. The main characte is called Knuckles I think. It might be some Sonic hedgehog fanfic or something, but it was on sale on Amazon and I felt like actually reading it for some reason, but now I can't find the fucking thing to save my god forsaken life. The book cover looks like it was created in MS Paint in about 5 minutes. I though it was called Legend of Rings or some such shit, but can't remember. I know someone here knows what it is.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 10:53:35 2019 No.13962687 >>13962681 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QG97HW8

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 10:56:33 2019 No.13962701 >>13962687 cool, thanks

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 10:58:06 2019 No.13962710 >>13959842 I don't think I'll be sticking for any more books. Its just too boring and mediocre.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 10:59:28 2019 No.13962719 >>13962681 https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Conqueror-Chronicles-Everfall-Book-ebook/dp/B07TB4YSHX/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 11:19:13 2019 No.13962817 >>13960606 I find it ironic how only in publishing is indie considered a bad thing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 11:24:55 2019 No.13962847 >>13962002 >You can just grep that shit. What does that even mean? No you can't "grep" some encrypted metadata hidden in some font file. >>13962328 No, you can only learn by doing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 11:45:53 2019 No.13962952 Unrelated post about Kindle 2019 (Kindle 9): it works fine with Calibre, right?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 11:57:25 2019 No.13962997 >>13962952 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 12:00:33 2019 No.13963009 >>13962997 thanks, will get that one.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 12:37:02 2019 No.13963135 Normal books don't do it for me anymore. My books must contain rape and suffering for me to enjoy it. Reading a PG 13 book where there is war and no one is raped is sickening and annoying to the nth degree.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 13:40:28 2019 No.13963359 >sffg will die within the year >press F Well it was fun.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 13:56:00 2019 No.13963419 >>13963359 Will you leave before then though?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 14:01:44 2019 No.13963441 >>13963135 Then go cum on your mom's Harlequin pirate romance stories and shut the fuck up

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 14:07:14 2019 No.13963469 >>13963135 Read xianxia

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 14:08:19 2019 No.13963475 >>13960387 You get ridiculed because you call it "SFFG's Self Published Recommendation Chart", instead of naming it what it actually is, "My (as in you, 'cause it sure as fuck ain't mine) Self Published Recommendation Chart"

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 14:12:14 2019 No.13963495 >>13961936 neck yourself

Anonymous Wed Oct 9 14:22:46 2019 No.13963536

I am currently following the updates for immortal and martial dual cultivation, talisman emperor, perfect world, sovereign of the three realms, and a record of a mortals journey to immortality

I like all of them and recommend them
Also cultivation chat group and fishing the myriad heavens for less serious xianxia

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 14:28:33 2019 No.13963553 >>13963536 Read Reverend Insanity if you want an actually good xiaxia.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 14:30:33 2019 No.13963563 >>13963553 Uh no that’s bad do Renegade immortal is the real ri I’m also following that

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 14:30:57 2019 No.13963565 >>13963553 WILL YOU SHUT UP FUCK CAN YOU PLEASE SHUT UP HOLY SHIT JUST PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP WITH YOUR CHINKSHIT NONSENSE I CANT TAKE IT ANY MORE FAGGOT SHUT THE FUCK UP Read desolate era instead

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 14:34:59 2019 No.13963579 Is literature the only unpozzed thing left in the face of increasing Chinese sentiment?

Anonymous Wed Oct 9 14:47:22 2019 No.13963610

>>13963563
>>13963536
>>13963565
Man you've got poor taste, bordering on criminal. Those stories are so shallow and predictable that I felt like I could write each chapter before I read it, and the characters are so insipid and annoying they made me want to vomit. And unlike you, I read a few hundred chapters of each before deciding they're totally unsalvageable.

Every single one of them without fail is the standard
>randomly find magic buttplug in your soup
>meditate in a cave for four hundred years
>pretend to be a peasant and court death
>insult the young master of the seven heavenly jad pagoda true dragon gold summit peak light martial emperor god divine space buddha clan and begin a blood feud for no reason
>fight an entire city of jobbers, slapping each one to death with no effort until some old asshole wake up
>AH AFTER 10,000 YEARS I'M FREE, TIME TO INEFFECTUALLY CHASE THE MC FOR A FEW CHAPTERS AND THEN GIVE UP
>hide in another cave, meditate for four THOUSAND years this time
>repeat

>cultivation chat group
Now that's just unforgivable, recommending that should be illegal. It's PAINFULLY bad right from the start and only gets worse and worse as time goes on. In general chinese "comedy" isn't the best, but that's a particularly heinous example.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 15:12:36 2019 No.13963700 >>13959821 Not great, not terrible?

Anonymous Wed Oct 9 15:15:34 2019 No.13963707
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>>13963610
Is there anything good that's Chinese?
The books suck, the movies suck (oh how they suck), the tourists suck.

Anonymous Wed Oct 9 15:27:59 2019 No.13963761

>>13963700
Well its really really mediocre.

Nothing exciting happens, and everything described is very non-imaginative. Strip a few elements out and it could be a boring historical period piece, and not fantasy.

And the "exciting" things that do happen are laughably uninteresting (like the whole Forge town portion).

Like I said, I'm only half-way through, and its very hard to will myself to continue.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 15:29:59 2019 No.13963773 >>13963610 Name better

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 15:30:17 2019 No.13963774 File: 11 KB, 320x290, 1569939363686-lit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13962817 Imagine not being able to tell the difference between a decent independent publishing house and Harry Potter fanfiction

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 15:33:38 2019 No.13963795 >>13963774 I meant in publishing vs. film and games.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 15:34:16 2019 No.13963797 >>13958017 I'm writing fantasy that isn't that desu

Anonymous Wed Oct 9 15:53:54 2019 No.13963895

What I Read Today
Post 1 of 2.

Unsouled - Will Wight (Cradle Book 1)
Contains spoilers without spoiler text being used. This is an overview of whether you'd like it more so than what I personally thought about it. If you don't want that then don't read it. I was going to write much more but then I realized it was already overly long as it requires two posts.

As previously mentioned in the self-published chart(s) review where I briefly looked at all except 2, which weren't easily available without Kindle Unlimited, and then posted as a pastebin a few times, my initial thoughts of giving it the highest rating of "maybe I'd read" were correct. All I wrote at the time was "Opening reminded me of Saga Frontier 2. I've disliked similar framing."

Did I read it because all of the posts and possibly forced meme'ing of it? Yes and no. When I returned to being active on /lit/ a few months ago after some years of being mostly inactive, I had already been considering it from all the stuff I've seen outside of /sffg/. As known by advertisers, repeatedly presenting something that a person may already be interested in over and over again will increase the chance they will do something about it. That being said, they really ought not to do that. However, if the person doesn't have any interest at all from what they've seen from it, I don't think any amount of spamming will convince them it's worthwhile.

Alright, so the book itself then. It was published in June 2016. It was the first "cultivation" book I've read and I have zero interest in reading Chinese Xianxia as is often and currently being posted. I have looked at some. I did not like what I saw.
I will be heavily referencing other media, mostly videogames. Why? Because that will give you the proper feel for whether you'd like this.

Anonymous Wed Oct 9 15:55:24 2019 No.13963904

>>13963895
The book's protagonist, Lindon, is unsouled with deficient madra, which seems similar to chakra or ki/qi. Paths seem like Disgaea's important character class advancement. The protagonist is found to be deficient and marginalized but eventually will prove his worth regardless. I have a bias towards this for personal reasons. This is superficially similar as mentioned to the opening of Saga Frontier 2, where the protagonist instead has no magic and never gains any. It is also similar to Naruto as others have mentioned.

The story begins in Sacred Valley, which although it precedes its published release, it doesn't precede its first trailer, reminds me of Horizon Zero Dawn's starting area in various ways. The sacred beast of their village seems to be a cross between Amaterasu of Ōkami and Nine Tails of Naruto, though more the former.

Lindon not being able or allowed to choose a path, goes for being clever, using basic skills, and then proceeds to attempt a route of negation. This reminded me of M×0, where the protagonist can only negate magic and must fake his way through a magic school.

I remain very wary of the metanarrative framework, which seems akin to Dragon Ball Super. What I posted about Jon Scalzi's The God Engines applies here as well. It doesn't seem as dumb as Umineko's metanarrative framework, but I could be wrong. The main problem I have with it is that it's used for plot progression and it makes it seem extremely heavy-handed. I could be wrong, but it also seems like it's a "here's what could eventually be, but won't be for many books or possibly never" but I don't what level of power escalation to expect based on the first book. There's literally a section of "here's all the people/quests you will need to recruit/complete before advancing to the next major story point which you have a time limit for before destruction", which reminded me of Fable III. If the metanarrative instead turns out to be like Star Ocean III, I'd be highly disappointed.

Throughout the book they discuss fruits and pills that are basically XP items. Sacred Valley is stuck in Disgaea's main story while rest of the world is in the post-game. Thus it ends up being lvl 50s congratulating each other on how great they are while in the outside there are lvl 9999s who are more powerful than them right after birth due to XP items, powerleveling, and spiritual inheritance.

This could very easily be a game, manga, comic or anime. If the idea of that seems like you something you wouldn't like, then don't read this. If it does, then consider reading it. In terms of light novels I'd say it's one of the better ones I've read, which may be damning it with faint praise, but it's accurate.

Will I be reading rest of the books? At this time it seems that I will eventually. Will I be joining in the posting about it? No, I will not.
TL;DR: A heavily flawed, in terms of being "serious literature" relative to standard SFF, fun read for those predisposed to enjoy it.

Anonymous Wed Oct 9 17:10:01 2019 No.13964306
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does anyone know if war of the worlds is actually the first scifi novel with an alien war/conflict? i know there are older stories with aliens, but they seem to be sorta satires and the "aliens" are more like fictional gods, like greek gods and such

Anonymous Wed Oct 9 17:15:01 2019 No.13964327
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>Giggling her little heart out, Lucia opened the microwave to reveal an upside-down cowboy hat, stuffed to the brim with dollar bills. Some ancient and wrinkled, some so new Mindy was surprised they didn’t have Hillary Clinton’s portrait on them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 17:16:02 2019 No.13964335 >>13964306 Based on the wiki article, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_of_the_Worlds it says it isn't. See the Antecedents section.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 17:28:44 2019 No.13964393 File: 47 KB, 932x430, 1570655229228.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >kowtowing just like my bugman xianxia!

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 17:50:24 2019 No.13964484 >>13963553 RI may be the worst xiaxia ever.

Anonymous Wed Oct 9 18:09:30 2019 No.13964565

What book has an aesthetic similar to this dialogue from Hellsinker:
>Why do you exhume the forgotten legend?
>What prompts you to chill your vitality,
>filling your veins with artificial blood,
>in your search for that which does not exist?
>Do you find beauty in each reiteration,
>each time you have followed this path?
>You will find nothing but the scars that mar us all.
>Nothing but the remains of the long-dead river, drawing your gaze.
>We, the echoes of the past, feel it no more.
>Have you found reason for it once again?
>When all that remains is a name, abandoned by time,
>who will notice? Who will find it?
>Will the words lose their very meaning?
>Will you end the legend, once and for all?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 18:17:45 2019 No.13964601 Ia having characters quote ancients considered hackery? Say a wise old man character says "only the dead know the end of war." Does that make the author a hack or is it a decent way of letting you know a character has been through some shit?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 18:22:14 2019 No.13964617 >>13964306 No. But Thunderchild btfos every other ship in sci-fi debate me.

Anonymous Wed Oct 9 18:22:53 2019 No.13964619
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>Still nobody spoke. They were silent as the crescent crept wider and the splendid sun broke free from behind it. They could not speak one word for the miracle of it. They were struck dumb, deaf and dizzy by its sublimity.

>At last it was Laur Vyann who spoke.‘Oh, Roy darling,’ she whispered. ‘We have arrived somewhere, after all! There’s still a hope for us, there’s still some sort of a hope.’
>Complain turned to look at her then, to force his choked throat to answer. And then he could not answer. He suddenly knew what the big something was he had wanted all his life.

>It was nothing big at all. It was a small thing. It was just to see Laur’s face — by sunlight.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 18:30:49 2019 No.13964651 >>13964619 Maybe Casca will be fully restored eventually. Book is apparently Non-Stop by Brian Aldiss

Anonymous Wed Oct 9 18:32:32 2019 No.13964654

>>13964601
>it a decent way of letting you know a character has been through some shit?
No, it isn't. One of main reasons why is because people will taking it literally as a personal statement rather than about how the effects of war on a personal level persist on an individual until their dying day.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 18:33:34 2019 No.13964661 >>13964654 >personal statement I meant general statement.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 18:37:35 2019 No.13964676 >>13964601 Ancients were born out of chaos and were closer to the dao

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 18:39:35 2019 No.13964680 Anybody read The Outside by Ada Hoffman? Just finished it, considerably underwhelmed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 18:44:14 2019 No.13964697 >>13964676 That's stupid and you're an idiot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 19:53:14 2019 No.13965019 >>13963707 The women with makeup on.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 19:58:14 2019 No.13965044 >>13963707 Your actual question is: "Can anyone convince to like something Chinese?" the answer is "Probably not" if you are deadset against it. I thought that movie was ok. It's based on a novel.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 20:09:07 2019 No.13965112 >>13964680 What didn't you like about it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 20:11:38 2019 No.13965123 >>13961868 Thanks, brah.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 20:15:35 2019 No.13965136 >>13963707 >>13963773 Reverend Insanity

Anonymous Wed Oct 9 20:19:57 2019 No.13965157

>>13962847
It's easy to remove metadata from fonts. Just because you have zero knowledge about how you can achieve such a thing, it doesn't mean that it's impossible? I used to do it all the time for /gd/ in FontLab. On a private website, there was a very detailed guide telling people how to tell fake fonts from real fonts. Well, myfonts included metadata in fonts identifying it as preview font, but in Fontlab I forged a whole bunch of fake metadata and convinced a whole bunch of retards that I had actually purchased the fonts when in actual fact it was a straight up conversion from a web preview on myfonts and I even had a script that just mass ripped fonts from that site.

You can even skip the whole encrypted metadata hidden in some file shenanigans. Just delete fonts using Calibre? I do it all the time? Because publishers embed retarded fonts?

If you don't trust anything in an epub file and can't code to save your life, you can just write a macro that copies and pastes the text into a word document. And if you can't code, you can also convert an epub to a text file. And if you can code, you can just dump the text into a new epub.

Before piracy existed, people photocopied whole books. You are overthinking it.

Anonymous Wed Oct 9 20:25:04 2019 No.13965178

>>13965112
1. If you're going to have the protagonist be autistic, a. have it have some use as a plot point, and b. actually make her act autistic. Whatsherface never acts like an actual autist, not even a high-functioning one. She acts like a normal, introverted person. I find this thoroughly tasteless. The last book I read that actually handled an autistic character tastefully was one of those Diane Duane Young Wizards books, I forget which one.

2. I am not digging whatsherface being able to recover from being exposed to this alternate-dimension Lovecraft shit so easily. I would have found it a lot more interesting if she transitioned out of being the main character halfway through and the story started following Tiv trying to keep shit together for herself and whatsherface while whatsherface is totally gone and out of it. I think there'd be a lot more opportunity for drama and an interesting story there.

3. The setting seems interesting but the author does nothing interesting with it, which leads to...

4. I am so fucking tired of all of these terrible, schlocky science fiction and fantasy novels expanding into gazillions of sequels. This did not need a sequel. Or a series. Stop. Write a self-contained story. I don't care about the angels and their plot for revenge. That was shoehorned in and totally out of character anyway.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 20:36:01 2019 No.13965234 >>13960259 I got bored halfway through and didn’t finish

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 20:39:04 2019 No.13965255 >>13960387 Having wil wight amongst this other garbage is a fucking disgrace. Hang yourself you fat fuck

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 20:43:18 2019 No.13965293 >>13962463 Uncrowned already came out and it was great

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 20:52:43 2019 No.13965349 >>13965293 A great disappointment.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 20:56:27 2019 No.13965370 >>13965349 Name a better book that came out in the last 5 years. Oh you can’t? That’s what I thought

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 21:07:38 2019 No.13965415 Can someone redpill me on Victoria Schwab? My girlfriend is super into her stuff and keeps pestering me about reading with her but I'm iffy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 21:11:40 2019 No.13965433 >>13965415 >redpill I know nothing about the author, but I know you won't like it based upon using that term.

Anonymous Wed Oct 9 21:19:08 2019 No.13965463

>>13965415
Your options:
1. Read just because she wants you to.
2. Propose a reading trade.
3. Refuse and remain blissfully ignorant
4. Propose a compromise book that you both think you enjoy.

1: Then this is just the beginning of the asks, eventually you break it off from her being too controlling.
2: You both realize how much the other's tastes is the worst and either no longer stop about books with each other or break up due to irreconcilable taste differences.
3: She breaks up with you for being cold, distant, aloof, and uninterested.
4: Eventually tired of always compromising, you seek others where you don't have to compromise.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 21:20:18 2019 No.13965467 >>13965463 "stop" should be "talk"

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 21:25:54 2019 No.13965490 >>13965293 >it was great t. will wight It was easily the weakest book in the series yet.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 21:33:17 2019 No.13965521 >>13965415 yer lass is a fookin pleb m80

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 21:34:17 2019 No.13965530 >>13965521 Trust me, I understand that, but there's pleb shit I can turn my brain off and enjoy, like the old TSR DnD novels, and then there's new fantasy novels. I don't know what the hell happened since the 80s but I don't like it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 21:42:58 2019 No.13965567 >>13965530 >I don't know what's happened in the last 40 years >TSR was bought out in 1997 >girlfriend Very unclear of both your ages.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 22:28:08 2019 No.13965775 File: 176 KB, 628x1032, 71OAJeaOCEL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I have utter trash taste in books and really enjoyed the star wars revenge of the sith novel, can you recommend anything similar but not star wars. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 00:13:43 2019 No.13966238 We at page 7. No one reads anymore.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 00:29:29 2019 No.13966281 >>13966238 we’re reading, that’s why we’re not posting

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 00:44:06 2019 No.13966332 File: 152 KB, 370x370, a0e.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] /sffg/, I couldn't make my word goal today. All the dialog and narration is coming out shitty and all the humor is juvenile and scatological.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 00:57:42 2019 No.13966387 >>13966238 If 80% of the posts are from 20% of the posters and those 20% of posters stop for whatever reason, then there are 80% of the posters but only 20% of the posts.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 00:59:42 2019 No.13966394 >>13963895 >>13963904 Posts like this make me glad /sffg/ is slowly dying. Do us all a favour and die painfully.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 01:01:36 2019 No.13966400 >>13966394 You're welcome!

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 01:25:16 2019 No.13966452 >>13966332 >humor is juvenile and scatological embrace it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 01:27:42 2019 No.13966457 >>13964680 >w*man what did you expect

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 01:28:43 2019 No.13966459 posting about chink web novels should be bannable. from the board, not from the thread.

Anonymous Thu Oct 10 01:42:26 2019 No.13966492

>>13966452
I can bear a few jokes, but it was three literally shitty posts in three sittings. It's not the way I normally write. Also my entire lexicon has decayed. It feels so much worse than it was on book one. I have no idea how my writing could have devolved this badly. It's horrific

Anonymous Thu Oct 10 01:45:34 2019 No.13966502

>>13965157
>It's easy to remove metadata from fonts.
Only if you already know where to look for it, it isn't by itself a trivial task.

> it's impossible
It definitely isn't, but obviously that is still totally irrelevant.

>You can even skip the whole encrypted metadata hidden in some file shenanigans. Just delete fonts using Calibre? I do it all the time? Because publishers embed retarded fonts?
Now you are just massively changing the goalpost. Yes, Calibre, depending on what you do, probably gets rid of most metadata.

>And if you can code, you can just dump the text into a new epub.
Yes, that requires serious 1337 coding skills, lmao.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 01:45:49 2019 No.13966505 >>13966492 >literally shitty jokes I'm losing it man. I'm losing it

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 01:48:50 2019 No.13966516 >>13966492 do it faggot. embrace the gutterjunk.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 01:51:27 2019 No.13966523 >>13966492 Mental illness is debilitating like that.

Anonymous Thu Oct 10 02:23:37 2019 No.13966639

>>13966516
>>13966523
in the end I made it to 400 words before running out of steam.

It occurs to me that after spending a full year giving myself a break, if my talent isn't coming back then the only thing I can do is push forward and relearn everything from scratch. Even if my own mind is against me, fate is on my side. So I'm going to keep going, and I'm going to fail, and I'm going to pick it back up and keep trying, and then I'm going to fail again. I'll do this again, and again and again, and hopefully by the end of it, I'll be somewhere close to where I was when I started, but I'll have a whole draft behind me, and a whole editing process to look forward to

Anonymous Thu Oct 10 03:10:25 2019 No.13966744

>>13965490
No, soulsmith is by far the worst book in the series. If you haven’t noticed by now, odd number books in Cradle are better than even number books. Soulsmith is worse than unsouled, skysworn is worse than blackflame. Just the pattern the series goes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 03:31:50 2019 No.13966789 Guys, is it lazy to simply call a Dwarven kingdom “Dwarvia”?

Anonymous Thu Oct 10 03:54:48 2019 No.13966842

>>13966789
I think so. I'd go for something like Underrock or Stoneanvil. But that's just my opinion. When i think of dwarves i always think of a city inside a mountain like for example Ironforge in wow.
I always think of things like pic related.
https://explainingtheoldworld.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/dwarfslayerkeepzh7.jpg
(Sorry for link can't upload anything since some jackass in my ip range fucked with something and ruined it for everyone.)

Anonymous Thu Oct 10 04:21:19 2019 No.13966883

>>13966789
Are the dwarves calling them selves dwarves? Is that the name of their people? I that case it's not stranger than Spaniards living in Spain. The potentially lazy part would be not giving the dwarves a better name than dwarves. Also, this is not a writing general, GTFO.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 05:28:20 2019 No.13967023 >>13966789 It is very lazy, yes

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 06:26:09 2019 No.13967123 >>13966789 No, it's clever and subtle. Keep writing anon! you'll be self published in no time, I can't wait to not read your book just like everything else that is self published.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 08:13:12 2019 No.13967466 Anyone notice that it was since the megalink fags started to fuck with the OP format that the threads started to noticeable deteriorate?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 09:32:03 2019 No.13967747 >>13963895 >>13963904 I like your content, don't listen to the haters >>13964661 I thought I was done with university admissions, but it seems like I am being haunted by them to this day.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 09:40:38 2019 No.13967780 >>13966744 Uncrowned (7) was worse than Underlord (6), though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 10:01:06 2019 No.13967849 Recommend me 10/10 fantasy books/series. Last couple of fantasy books I tried didn't grab me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 10:04:53 2019 No.13967864 Will Shi Hao recover??? Those detestable Gu clan bastards

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 11:02:14 2019 No.13968098 >>13967466 >>13966238 It's the shitposters making new threads every 10 mins about things that are clearly off topic that is dropping the thread to lower pages. The thread is usually dead in the morning and then people start posting at lunch time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 11:13:05 2019 No.13968141 I was tricked. The book that I thought was filled with a scribe watching people get raped while thinking of his mother was a lie. The person arranged their review to make it look rapey. So far is wholesome shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 11:16:56 2019 No.13968156 >>13966789 the norse called the land of the elves "elf home" you can do so much worse

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 11:28:11 2019 No.13968204 File: 507 KB, 2000x2000, magnacumloudly.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13965136

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 11:29:14 2019 No.13968206 >>13965370 Maximum Bait.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 11:30:47 2019 No.13968214 >>13966459 >from the internet, not from the board

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 11:58:56 2019 No.13968351 File: 116 KB, 988x1815, list.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What to add/remove.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 12:13:33 2019 No.13968408 >get really into a book for the first time in a while yay >immediately struggle to read once I've finished it because I can't get into anything else boo

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 12:45:12 2019 No.13968533 >>13968351 It looks like someone based did 2/3 of the list, than got bored and delegated the task of adding 21st century books to a reddit poll

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 12:46:46 2019 No.13968537 >>13968533 Actually it still has some good books. desu just remove sanderson, rothfuss, lynch, and abercrombie and I will be fine with the list

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 12:48:07 2019 No.13968542 >>13968537 Anything to add?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 12:56:00 2019 No.13968570 >>13955200 Need me some good Supernatural Gothic Fantasy and Space Operas.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 13:15:13 2019 No.13968644 File: 797 KB, 637x956, 0A953EC5-8E78-4223-983F-CB45AEF83D57.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13965370 I’ll take your gay bait

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 15:02:19 2019 No.13969135 >>13968351 Remove Hobb, rothfuss, Abercrombie, and anyone who’s first name is Terry.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 15:04:02 2019 No.13969145 >>13966789 it's better than having a country shaped like a boot

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 15:26:57 2019 No.13969265 >”But… That… It… It doesn’t fit, like at all. An orc named Emily? What kind of fantasy setting has an orc named Emily?”

Anonymous Thu Oct 10 15:34:04 2019 No.13969300
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>>13965019
>>13965044
>>13965136
Upon further research I have come to the conclusion that chink thots are a-ok. The rest not so much but let's hope Winnie will take car of it in the future.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 15:39:32 2019 No.13969324 >>13968141 >>/lit/thread/S13763680#p13765951 You tricked yourself then as it says nothing about rape. This is also clearly not a review.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 15:41:07 2019 No.13969331 >>13969135 I heard there is BDSM in Sword of Truth, I wanna check it out just for that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 15:46:34 2019 No.13969349 >>13967466 >sorted by year Well ok >The Blade Itself Twice Pay more attention or add duplicate detection >Thinking the people who reply will give you good advice >84 books Are you working towards 100? Roughly how many of these have you read?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 15:47:40 2019 No.13969355 >>13967466 More changes to OP next thread .

Anonymous Thu Oct 10 15:52:31 2019 No.13969371

>>13969349
>>sorted by year
>Well ok
What do you want it to be sorted by? Publication date is best way to sort anything.

>>The Blade Itself Twice
>Pay more attention or add duplicate detection
Its duplicated because of the way I took and stitched the screenshot. Spreadsheet is fine (as you should have noticed by the number or rows).

>Are you working towards 100?
I'm looking for fluff to cut, and gems that I might have missed to add.

>Roughly how many of these have you read?
Couple dozen.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 15:53:14 2019 No.13969376 File: 171 KB, 2048x1364, image1[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13969355 We need sexier images in the OP. Something attention grabbing, something that will make your average anon, the sad sap that he is, to join in.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 16:03:11 2019 No.13969431 >>13969331 You heard correct. I hope you like femdom.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 16:03:15 2019 No.13969432 File: 1.97 MB, 2040x3021, [Manuel Perez Clemente (Sanjulian)] Red Sonja.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13969376 Something like this? I have a lot of those.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 16:09:48 2019 No.13969463 File: 91 KB, 693x1000, MyHSLZugxgA.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13969432 Well I guess, if you must. But aren't you sick and tired of cartoon characters? Besides only losers are interested in 2D.

Anonymous Thu Oct 10 16:11:58 2019 No.13969476
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>>13968351
Never read J.V Jones, Keyes and Zindell so i can't talk about their books but It's a pretty good list if you remove the reddit-tier authors.
>>13969376
For once i agree with lewdanon

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 16:17:20 2019 No.13969507 >>13969463 Where do you think you are?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 16:20:31 2019 No.13969521 File: 557 KB, 679x694, weeb.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13969507 A weeb-free thread.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 16:22:00 2019 No.13969524 >>13969463 You won't achieve this: Something attention grabbing, something that will make your average anon, the sad sap that he is, to join in. With 3D.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 16:24:35 2019 No.13969536 File: 56 KB, 576x1024, 1533324962788.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13969524 But I've been doing it here for months now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 16:31:41 2019 No.13969569 >>13969536 He means 3D won’t drawn anyone in. This is a 2D neighborhood, boy. Keep on walkin.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 16:43:16 2019 No.13969635 >>13969521 https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/11954814

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 17:07:11 2019 No.13969760 >>13969521 >akikusa peperon Based and thickpilled

Anonymous Thu Oct 10 17:16:48 2019 No.13969815

What I Read Today

If a poster provides the title and author name with a standard text string then it'd be possible to search the archive for it. Should I read author/title? Search the archive for author/title ZXXZ.

The City and The Dungeon - Matthew P. Schmidt

Second day of self-published. This a LitRPG set on a post-apocalyptic Earth. I gave this one a 4, the highest rating of "maybe", but I misjudged. This is empathetically not a good book. More so than any other book I've ever finished this book would have benefitted from a professional editor telling the author what an idiot he was being. This is only the second self-published book I've finished. The book would need to be entirely reworked for it to attain a semblance of being worthwhile. I can't recommend this to anyone regardless.

I don't know why he presented it as is. The book really would have been far better for everyone involved if this had been a book series or a single book with entirely reduced scope. Far too much happens with far too little detail. In some ways it's basically an outline of what could have been a multi-book series. Far too many disparate ideas are also all thrown together. The author contends with economics, politics, religion, addiction, PTSD, government, existentialism, and various other topics. Unfortunately, when he does so, he either fails at it entirely or fails to explore it in any detail. The author is aware of some of their shortcomings by having the characters discuss these shortcomings, but they always ultimate dismiss the shortcoming as irrelevant. The writing style and narrative framing is a mess. There's an autistic character that is depicted relatively well. I wonder if it's from personal experience or Temple Grandin's documentation of autism.

The book is a class-based system with auras showing the strength of an individual. The party goes into a dungeon. Everyone is functionally immortal as long as they are later revived. The characters are all cardboard cutouts that never develop in any meaningful way, especially the protagonist. They make it to floor 76 of I guess 100, no one knows, though they literally skipped floors 52-74. Most of the other floors happen off-screen. Overall, most everything does really. The book takes place over roughly a bit more than a year, though only a tiny bit of that is detailed. As for the economy, a violet crystal is worth a sextillion of the base red crystal that 90% of the population uses.

While I could have typed multiple 3,000 character posts on this, it's wasn't worth my time or the reader's.
If this book had reached its theoretical maximum potential, by which I do mean the book rather than the author, I believe it could have been traditionally published by a major publisher and if marketed correctly could have been a relatively popular seller, comparable to DanMachi. Yes, I am being presumptuous.

TL;DR: Can't recommend to anyone. Overflowing with wasted potential.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 17:24:46 2019 No.13969854 >>13969376 Nah, not in the OP. Let's still have the pretension of a veneer of not being like that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 17:56:24 2019 No.13970010 >>13969432 Certainly not like that. Far too retro. >>13969376 Based on your image, I hope that's a joke. >>13969463 2D only. >>13969476 Classical mythology isn't really in the spirit of SFF

Anonymous Thu Oct 10 18:22:35 2019 No.13970129

Currently planned OP for next thread.
I've combined the two mega links.
The current ones still work.
Apparently listing all the Previous Threads matters more than I thought, so they will all be there.
I've downloaded various images from outside of 4chan and will alternate between a fantasy and sci-fi image.
They will be mostly landscapes and similar because that's what I prefer and they are neutral.
If you disagree, you'll either have to make thread yourself or provide me with your preferred images.
Are there any links from the Resources, which I need to work on from its current initial attempt, that are important enough to be in OP?
Should there be a vote on which charts to add to the OP, if any?
Feel free to post the thread yourself with the below if you want.
I'll do it eventually, but it'll be later than possibly most would prefer it to be.

Monthly Reading For October: Quantum Thief | Charts
https://mega.nz/#F!A7YCmQBb!YYcZ9sZKbsUdSFlYX9wSaQ

Resources
https://pastelink.net/sffglit

Previous Threads
>>13955200
>>13943226
>>13931801
>>13921499
>>13909070
>>13898041

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 18:32:55 2019 No.13970165 >>13969265 A satirical, parodical, or bad fanfic one obviously.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 18:51:34 2019 No.13970236 >>13968351 Seems like a standard list some writer on a random site would make after looking what other sites have done. How did you compile it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 19:04:48 2019 No.13970277 >>13967864 Will /sffg/ recover??? Those detestable Xianxia posters.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 19:05:54 2019 No.13970284 >>13956300 Japan doesn't really do novels.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 19:06:55 2019 No.13970286 >>13956988 Whoever picked that image clearly wasn't thinking of what proper bait would be.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 19:11:56 2019 No.13970302 >>13969371 >Publication date is best way to sort anything Why is the year it was published the most important detail? I would think the author would be the most important.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 19:33:53 2019 No.13970390 >I was really into this masculine sort of fantasy fiction, so when I read Tolkien’s The Hobbit I was thinking “Damn!! This is awful! A little kid’s story? What is all the fuss about this?”

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 19:44:54 2019 No.13970435 >>13970286 then redo it. less than a minute in gimp

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 19:46:58 2019 No.13970449 >>13970236 The vast majority is from the charts in the OP.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 19:48:27 2019 No.13970456 >>13970302 Authors work within the zeitgeist of their time, so year is a better piece of information for orientating oneself.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 19:49:28 2019 No.13970460 >>13970456 Also I like being able to see what preceded what.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 19:50:54 2019 No.13970469 >>13970449 And by vast majority I mean 59 out 83 are from the OP charts, at least.

Anonymous Thu Oct 10 19:52:40 2019 No.13970478

>>13970456
>>13970460
I still think it's better to have the authors clustered together, because you have Tolkien at the end as well which sort of negates your premise. If you are going to do that, probably should be when it was actually written.
I agree that it's better for you in your preferred way, and you can have it that way privately, but publicly it would be better if it were sorted by author. It only takes a second to change the sorting, assuming have a column with the last names first. It's relatively simple to create that from the existing column.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 19:54:45 2019 No.13970491 >>13970478 >>13970460 or you can just have multiple sheets that automatically update from a base sheet showing every possible way like I did with the Author Consensus spreadsheet.

Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:04:00 2019 No.13970548

>>13970478
>13970478
Like I said, I don't like by author because it tells you nothing in regards to different works in relation to one another, and esspecialyl in fantasy I think that's important, because modern stuff is quite different to older titles. Just looking at the publication year you can tell more about a book than a synopses/blurb/whatever in terms of what to expect, which makes it easier to pick up a book depending on your mood.

Its also easier to trace what influenced what etc. this way as well.

I don't see how Tolkien having a book at the end negates... what premise exactly? I'm not an idiot, I know that those newer books are mostly old material. Even outside of Tolkien, if its not published, it can't influence other works, so publication year works best again, imo.

Regardless, there will never be a "perfect" way... But this isn't supposed to be a "public" list, I am merely asking for things to add/remove for my private reading needs, people can do their own list and sort it however way they want.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:05:02 2019 No.13970560 >>13970491 I can already sort as fast as I would ever want with the filters, your way is just more work for no benefit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:06:56 2019 No.13970574 >>13963895 >>13963904 >Walls of text We're not gonna read your "book", will

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:07:12 2019 No.13970577 >>13970560 >>13970548 Again, for other people, not yourself. Unless I'm misunderstanding and this is entirely for yourself.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:07:21 2019 No.13970579 >>13970010 >Certainly not like that. Far too retro. Retro fantasy is the only good fantasy, so it fits perfectly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:08:23 2019 No.13970587 >>13970577 and I assume you won't be providing the file itself either as people probably wouldn't want to download it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:08:24 2019 No.13970588 >>13970577 >Unless I'm misunderstanding and this is entirely for yourself. Bingo.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:09:24 2019 No.13970596 >>13970588 Then why post it at all?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:09:27 2019 No.13970597 >>13970587 The template comes with Microsoft Excel 2013. Putting in the info is like an hour or two max. OP charts + Goodreads is all you need.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:09:51 2019 No.13970602 File: 395 KB, 800x881, richjews.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Asimov's Foundation series is zionism fyi

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:11:07 2019 No.13970612 >>13970579 If you only care about yourself and think the thread is centered around your desires and everyone else exists for your purposes, then sure.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:11:12 2019 No.13970614 >>13970596 Dude, for the third (or forth?) time... SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GIVE ADVISE ON WHAT TO CUT, AND WHAT TO ADD. Why do people ask for recommendations in this thread at all, or whether to drop something? Same reason.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:12:19 2019 No.13970620 >>13970614 So it's a personal reading list for you then? If it's not for others as you've said. Clearly we must be misunderstanding each other. You've already said you've read dozens of them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:13:14 2019 No.13970624 >>13970129 I have how everything is now one megalink. Having the images in the OP is superior in every way.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:15:01 2019 No.13970636 >>13970624 Which is why I asked how to determine which ones ought to be in the OP rather than the OP arbitrary deciding as how had been done.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:15:14 2019 No.13970637 >>13970620 Its incomprehensible to me how you can see my first post >>13968351 and think its anything else but a should I read/should I drop/recommend me more type of post.

Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:18:14 2019 No.13970653

>>13970636
There was absolutely nothing wrong with the old method and just because you don't like it doesn't mean you have to be a total drama queen bitch attention seeking whore and shit on the OP, then pretend like the problem lies with other people for not telling you what to do...

Leave the OP to someone else, faggot. Or just copy the old style. Its not fucking rocket science.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:18:54 2019 No.13970659 >>13969331 Comfy adventure and all manner of rape. Nothing original and shit tier prose though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:19:03 2019 No.13970660 >>13970637 For all I could tell, it could be the basis for some large image chart. It doesn't say anything about what you've read or whether you liked it or anything else. It's just a list of books and some data about them.

Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:20:59 2019 No.13970672

>>13970659
Prose is one of those things that I think people can never agree on whether an example of prose is bad, passable, good or great.

Anyway, I don't care, I can roll even with shit prose, and I don't beat my meatstick to "good" prose like some people seem to be doing.

Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:21:14 2019 No.13970674

>>13970653
You've misunderstood. I'm not asking others people to do anything. I'm asking if they want to do anything about before I do whatever I want.

>Leave the OP to someone else, faggot.
If someone else wants to make a new thread right now this very moment, they are able to do so. Nothing is stopping them, or you for that matter.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:22:26 2019 No.13970680 >>13970660 I specifically cut the column with read/dropped. The idea is for people to tell me WHAT THEY THINK IS GOOD BOOKS TO READ/BAD ONES TO AVOID.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:24:18 2019 No.13970691 >>13970680 Why would you include the dozens you've already read if you don't include that you've read them? What value does that add for you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:24:45 2019 No.13970695 >>13970674 I don't post the thread because I don't frequent the site that often. Leave it to the guys that have been doing it till now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:26:18 2019 No.13970702 >>13970695 Since you haven't been in thread, those guys have said they don't want to do it any longer. I didn't make the current thread, but I made a few prior to it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:26:25 2019 No.13970705 >>13970691 I was lazy, just opened the table and did the screenshots. Its not like it matters if someone tells me to get rid of something I've read or not.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:27:37 2019 No.13970713 >>13970702 Well, my opinion for whatever its worth is keep the old OP style. New one is gay and I hate it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:28:24 2019 No.13970717 >>13970705 Yes, but if someone tells you to read what you've read what you've already read, that doesn't help either. They are 100% only a distraction.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:29:24 2019 No.13970722 THREAD CUUUUUNTTT

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:29:33 2019 No.13970726 >>13970713 That's unfortunate for you then. Maybe someone else will grant your wish.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:29:59 2019 No.13970728 >>13970717 Its cool with me, I don't mind. Though this exchange does reaffirm the notion that this site is full of autists.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:31:15 2019 No.13970732 >>13970726 Well, we can also do the whole thread posting war, if it comes to that. Though I really don;t have the time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:32:14 2019 No.13970739 >>13970722 I'm not going to make a new thread until these current conversations run their course. >>13970732 There won't be a war because I won't be posting any thread if someone else already has.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:32:16 2019 No.13970741 >>13970726 At least say why it was decided to change the old style.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:33:19 2019 No.13970745 >>13970741 If it was entirely decided by me because I felt like it. No other reason.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:34:28 2019 No.13970752 >>13970745 So you are indeed a massive faggot, got you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 20:42:29 2019 No.13970805 New Thread >>13970798

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 21:01:25 2019 No.13970961 File: 749 KB, 680x1021, Shes Waiting.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13956988 >>13970286 >>13970435

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 23:54:27 2019 No.13971808 >>13966639 That's what most accomplished authors have done, you gotta do the grind before u got the gem.

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