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I think this is fun. Write out what your remember about your highschool experience in the syle of David Foster Wallace. Have fun.

>> No.12183215

I hate his fucking guts. I hate all rich bastards like DFW. Two loaded professor parents. Gave him everything in life. Never had to worry about rent, money, starving. Opened doors to publishing and everything. What's he do? Kills himself. Good riddance.

>> No.12183223

>>12183215
So why are you so mad at him if he did what you want him to do?

>> No.12183237 [DELETED] 

most really pretty girls have pretty ugly feet and but so wardine be cry surrounded by heads and bodies while the tide was way out past the flannel plains and she is right there speaking calmly and so are you.

>> No.12183251

>>12183207
nobody responded because it's tedious and impossible

>> No.12183255

most really pretty girls have pretty ugly feet and but so wardine be cry surrounded by heads and bodies and the tide was way out past the flannel plains, she's right there speaking calmly, and so are you.

>> No.12183270

>>12183255
Can you actually try? Please?

>> No.12183274

>>12183215
>What's he do?
>What is he do?
Kill yourself

>> No.12183277
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>>12183215
This is such a weird and silly critique, I don't understand why it crops up here so often. Intellectuals and artists naturally come from that type of background anyway.

A realistic critique of Wallace would concern why so many jews are in control of his image, from his jewed up literary trust overseers to the rolling stone jew who followed him around, whose story was made into a movie directed by a jew who cast a jew to play Wallace, along with the creepy jew who wrote a crappy biography about him, DT Max.

>> No.12183284

>>12183270
what's in it for me?
I'm not sure what it would even look like.
Basically it would just be a long drawn out version of a regular story with footnotes, wacky eccentric characters, some meta-shit, bad jokes, and a large vocabulary.

>> No.12183287

>>12183277
>very successful author
>author implying entertainment/media presence
>surrounded by jews
gee. how unheard of

>> No.12183289

>>12183277
That's less of a critique of Wallace and more of a concern with all the jews following him around. Maybe it's because he was a non-jewish accomplished writer.

>> No.12183292

>>12183284
>bad jokes
Then make them good jokes. Faggot.

>> No.12183296

>>12183287
This. Wallace was the pioneer of pointing out new media jews

>> No.12183299

>>12183292
Then it wouldn't be a Wallace parody?
It's not that they're /bad/, he just had a sort of corny sense of humor. It was okay when he mixed it with druggy-stuff, but in general it often felt tacked on, pandering, and unrealistic imo.

>> No.12183302

>>12183287
>>12183289
I think you both missed the point. It's all jews determining his public image, clearly, but none of them actually seem to portray him positively. Thus a lot of the love/hate schizm like the linked poster is expressing one side of is obviously being manufactured by this hostile foreign tribe.

>> No.12183304

>>12183296
how so? I'm pretty sure he has had only ever subtle jabs at the nation of israel a couple of times, but Pynchon also did that so of course he did too.

>> No.12183320

>>12183302
I understand.

>> No.12183322

>>12183302
to be honest, that was part of Dave's sincerity. He was kind of upfront about being a do-gooder loser/scumbag/brat/hypocrite. you knew what you were getting, and so in that way he was always very divisive, which definitely comes across in his works and to his fans/detractors.

>> No.12183324

>>12183207
If you want that then read John Green, OP. Particularly his book an Abundance of Katherines but any will do. He’s a better writer than anyone on this shitboard anyway.

>> No.12183326

>>12183215
Every thread

Fucking based

>> No.12183329

>>12183304
>writing a book about a movie a ((producer)) made so good you couldn't stop watching it.
Yeah, the jews were all over that shit in an instant

>> No.12183335

>>12183326
Why do people have to be so negative about a dead author?

>> No.12183349

>>12183335
jealousy mostly.
I mean, David, for as much as he complained, and how badly nerds want to relate to him, he really was a exceptionally gifted and lucky, achieving at just 24 years old what most of us could only dream of doing. Easy to chalk it up to his upbringing, but you can't really blame him because your parents sucked now can you?

>> No.12183361 [DELETED] 

>>12183322
I don't think anyone who understands jewish behavior and has read DT Max's biography could fully buy into that. This is a classic build em up and knock em down routine. Wallace put himself out there, that's for sure, but most of this divisiveness is posthumous and being orchestrated by aliens who do not share our moral sense for artists and cultural figures generally.

>> No.12183378

>>12183361
>posthumous
Posthumorus. I'm an asshole.

>> No.12183379

>>12183361
nah.
Most of the bad vibes you get from D.T. Max really just come from the reality of the fact of his many affairs with students etc. This whole revisionist history of him being an ultra despicable horndog mostly has to do with scapegoating/explaining his predatory actions, as they probably played a large role in his decision to kill himself and it would be wrong to deny them, but at the same time should be acknowledged for those who knew.

>> No.12183387

- dfw was poor when he wrote ij, he wrote it in a cheap tiny apt in syracuse ny, where he had to move stuff off the bed when he wanted to sleep; he took an advance for the book, even though he didn't like doing that, because he needed money

- dfw's parents didn't have publishing connections, he got published because he wrote a young literary agent a letter and sent her an excerpt of his college thesis novel, she took him on, and represented him; his parents were not connected

>> No.12183400

>>12183387
got paid 150,000 + royalties for his first book at 24, parents are wealthy. Publishes second book at 29.
IJ published at 33 with a 100,000+ dollar advance.

He actually got the publisher's attention from a recommendation for his school where his family had a legacy.

>> No.12183404

>>12183400
>He actually got the publisher's attention from a recommendation for his school where his family had a legacy.

nope

>> No.12183406

>>12183400
recommendation from the school*

>> No.12183414

>>12183400
Yeah, but he is also a good writer and you're not. Unless you want to show me otherwise.

>> No.12183415

>>12183379
Nah. DT Max gives off nothing but bad vibes. He is a creepy jew who has a distinct way of pretending to be an admirer of DFW while blatantly destroying his image. He's not even good at hiding it, not surprised his family stopped communicating with him.

>> No.12183424

>>12183404
yes. In the years following his suspension (where in his pleading he became very familiar with the administration), he took his academic life very, very seriously and developed many of the relationships at this time that played a role in his future, one of which being a recommendation from his writing professor

>> No.12183430

>>12183414
I didn't say I was good.
I'm just explaining the facts.
Also, my mother is not an extreme grammarian.

>> No.12183432

>>12183215
I want to believe that being highly educated and also be so self aware about you and everything you know leads to destruction, I think he really needed to embrace nihilism (wich I believe he rejected) and his whole act about him being sincere and unpretentious would have worked out as therapy for living for sure, it was that or either keep living searching for stronger meds till you no longer can bear the pain and kill yourself, he just choose the wrong path imo

>> No.12183438

>parents are wealthy.

his parents were college professors of no great renown, his mother at a community college and his father at a state college. they were a middle-class family, not a wealthy family with publishing connections.

>> No.12183454

>>12183415
D.T. Max is just a regular jew.
Sticking to the facts, but filtering a little moralization in there.
I don't think David would mind.
Given the curious mystery of his death, there being no public note, only speculation, it's natural that his parents would be hesitant to broach any topic of their son, knowing where the conversation might lead.

>> No.12183461

>>12183438
It was a different time moron.
Where they were, they were well-off.

>> No.12183462

>>12183424
suspension? don't recall wallace being suspended from anything. he dropped out of amherst for a semester because his depression started to manifest.

>many of the relationships at this time that played a role in his future

what relationships? what writing professor? ive read every biographical detail ever written about dfw, i don't recall this

the story of dfw being published is he wrote a letter to bonnie nadell pointing out the recent success of writers his age and sending her an excerpt of his work. i don't even recall him taking a writing class at amherst. he studied writing at arizona, but his professors didn't like him and probably wouldn't have written him a recommendation.

also, i thought it was his parents with these alleged publishing connections that supposedly got him the book deal, now wallace cultivated the relationships himself? you're changing your story

>> No.12183469

>>12183462
>depression
he was depressed because he was being suspended.
You're reading the selected history, it's between the lines.
History is written.

>> No.12183477

>>12183462
The parents played a role in saving him from expulsion, and fostering his connection with the inner-network at the school. He had a jewy way of doing things.

>> No.12183479

>>12183461
and how does being well-off for their area in the midwest entitle them to alleged publishing connections in ny?

>> No.12183481

>>12183479
read the thread.

>> No.12183484

>>12183454
>a regular jew.
Nigger, go back to redit. His biography was a disorganized, mistake-ridden, uninformative mess, every page of which had some jab disguised as flattery. Not surprised some like yourself aren't great at picking up on these things though, jews wouldn't be so involved with this type of image manipulation if they were bad at it.

>> No.12183486

>>12183469
>You're reading the selected history, it's between the lines.
>History is written.

oh you're writing fan fiction, nevermind then

>> No.12183488

until mac miller died dfw was my favorite celebrity death

>> No.12183492

>>12183486
Yeah, I think someone itt is just making shit up about his background. Parents saving him from suspension? Where the fuck is this coming from?

>> No.12183497

>>12183486
>>12183492
It's more or less implied in the Pale King, many of the characters re-telling aspects of his own youth. Chapter 9 is not joking when he calls it a memoir. Read in tandem with "Every Love Story is A ghost story" you can learn a lot.
>>12183484
Give an example of a "mistake". He jabbed at Dave because Dave was worthy of jabbing at, he was a complicated man.

>> No.12183500

>>12183492
Op here. Can you please do the thing in the OP? It's wildly entertaining.

>> No.12183509

>>12183497
>Give an example of a "mistake".
There were many mistakes in the jew DT Max's bio of DFW because it was a rushed jewish stunt to capitalize on his death and controversial image. I will not look any of those up for you but multiple people mention it in the Amazon reviews and elsewhere online.

>> No.12183514

>>12183509
Everyone makes mistakes, David definitely did, even jews too!

>> No.12183517 [DELETED] 

>>12183500
Fuck yourself, buddy.

>> No.12183528
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>>12183517
Why are you so hostile? This thread was suppose to be fun.

>> No.12183533

>>12183514
But one of those is actually a part of our society and in-group, and is, for better or worse, a popular cultural figure, while the other is a scheming tribe out desert rats that needs to be shown the door.

>> No.12183537

>>12183533
>the other is a scheming tribe out desert rats that needs to be shown the door.
don't generalize!

>> No.12183544

>>12183537
They're all 5th cousins, it's a singular/general problem.

>> No.12183547

>>12183544
I'm sure most blonde people are too.

>> No.12183554 [DELETED] 

since this now the /pol/ thread, today at work some dude was bitching about israel and when i didn't immediately jump up and scream free palestine! he started looking at me with suspicion and at the end of he day he hesitated to shake my hand when usually he is an eager beaver who initiates it, he probably suspects im a crypto jew or something, which is good, hopefully he'll stop talking to me now with his stupid bullshit

>> No.12183561

>>12183554
this is the only right thing you could do.

>> No.12183564

girls gave me the howling fantods, so i showed up one day in a loose fitting trench coat and like, demapped the lot of them

>> No.12183565
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12183565

My thread has fucking derailed into what kind of jews are stalking DFW. Writing is suppose to be fun guys. I want to see your attempts because reading is fun too.

>> No.12183570

>>12183564
Get rid of the 'like' and it's perfect.

>> No.12183577

i tried but 4channel won't let me append footnotes.

sorry you'll miss out, but trust me, it was a tremendous parody.

>> No.12183578

>>12183554
Anyone who is bitching about Israel and expecting your agreement is sure to be an ideological leftist who inhales every other jewish narrative out there, and not someone who actually understands that jews are an evil race of psychopaths that is running our institutions and poisoning our civilization and promoting replacement immigration because they view us as their enemy. People who realize that are smart enough to realize they can't drop that shit on retards like you around the water cooler.

>> No.12183583
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>>12183207

Holy shit, I'm literally doing this right now. I'm doing an exercise from Bird by Bird where you write all your childhood memories. Writing about my summer camp experiences (and utilizing excessive footnotes in the style of DFW.

>> No.12183598

>>12183578
but the thing is: they always win
might as well embrace it.

>> No.12183608
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>>12183598
Jews always lose, you pathetic slave.

>> No.12183614

>>12183608
>yfw you realize jews made that chart
>it's all part of the plan

>> No.12183622

>>12183578
cringe

>> No.12183631

>>12183622
Where's the lie?

>> No.12183638

>>12183583
That's very entertaining[1] anon. I wish you the best of luck in writing.

[1] entertaining is to be implied as a complement, not an ironic insult.

>> No.12185102

>>12183570
it's literally the only stylistic choice i made outside of just referencing two terms from infinite jest to resemble dfw

>> No.12185132

>>12183578
I sucked on a Jewish girl's titties once. They were pale and translucent, like fine china.

>> No.12185141

>>12185102
>>12185102
Get rid of it
Also
>no footnotes?

>> No.12185148

>>12183274
That wasn't incorrect, anon

>> No.12185155

>>12183324
Go home, John

>> No.12185162

>>12183349
>David

>> No.12185175

>>12185148
I realize that, but it still sounds retarded when said out loud.

>> No.12185179

>>12185155
>john lurks the board
>john is lurking in this thread
>not wanting him to shitpost in a Wallace thread
I shiggy diggy

>> No.12185233

>>12185132
smiled

>> No.12185666

>>12183565
i'm sorry these cucks fucked up your thread OP i saw all the replies and looked forward to some keks but it feels like i'm on /pol/
i'm really annoyed with this shit i get jews are the devil blah blah but everyone making the argument that DFW "jewed" his way into the industry is overlooking the fact that using connections to get shit done is a rich people thing. yes jews are in the entertainment industry and a lot are rich but a lot of non jewish rich people do the same shit. it's not jewy it's rich peopley. if you had cheat codes why wouldn't you use them? honor? morals? most people are lacking that anyway. who gives a fuck if DFW didn't live the starving artist lifestyle if he didn't have to. it's not as romantic as everyone makes it seem. it probably would've made his depression even worse and he probably would've checked out of life a lot earlier. some of you retards are so busy being angry at muh jews and muh rich people that you're caught up in trying to invalidate authors because of their privileges. networking and finding your way to jump past roadblocks is just a way of reaching where you wanna get if you know how to utilize your resources. reeeeeeeeeeee

>> No.12185676

>>12183583
i like this anon

>> No.12185855

>>12185666
>it's not jewy it's rich peopley.
No, it's jewy.

>> No.12185950

>>12185855
Go back to /pol/

>> No.12186036 [DELETED] 

>>12185950
No, you go back to red*it. We talk openly about the jewish problem on /lit/ and are not dissuaded by online kosher marms like yourself.

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>>12186036
When did all of 4chan turn into /pol/? You guys have a whole fucking board for this shit but want to annoy other people on boards with people discussing specific things. And this board for people discussing fucking books. Go back to /pol/ and kill yourself for being a faggot and disrupting my friendly thread about Wallace.

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Making a proactive effort to not participate. Ditched as much as I could, wrote nothing down on tests, did no homework, claimed total ignorance in oral exams, etc. The fact that I graduated proves me right. All my grades were fiction, and tragically better than some people's who worked themselves to the bone. It seems like petty tyrants hate their sycophants even more than I do. Regardless, it's make-believe, less than nothing.

>> No.12186499

I assume[1] that you want something like this, OP[2], with the footnotes[3], but in DFW's[4] style[5]. Sorry your thread's been derailed[6] into about how Jews are ruining DFW's[4] legacy[7] but in post-2016[8] 4chan, every board is /pol/[9] and /r9k/[10].

1. Which as we all know, makes an ass of you and me*
*A common adage used to discourage jumping to conclusions. 'assume' can be decomposed into 'ass', 'u' and 'me'.
2. Original poster, referring to the person who begins a thread on 4chan*
*Popular imageboard
3. Reference to the large amount of 'footnotes' in David Foster Wallace's 1996 novel Infinite Jest, however this is actually a misnomer, as they are at the end of the book rather than the bottom of the page and are therefore endnotes. However, say footnotes on /lit/* and everyone knows which book you're talking about**
*literature board
**Infinite Jest
4. David Foster Wallace
5. A style regularly compared to postmodernist author Thomas Pynchon
6. Meaning to have its topic changed significantly from what was intended
7. Details about Wallace have surfaced in more recent years
8. Specifically, post-2016 election, in which 4chan saw large increases in popularity as it became associated with Donald Trump and the alt right.
9. The 'politically incorrect' board, the centre of the discourse that many perceive to be racist and sexist for which 4chan is known in the public consciousness
10. The ROBOT9000 board, a board in which every post can only be posted once, encouraging original discussion*. It is predominantly based on discussion of failure with women, often blamed on 'Chads'** and 'normalfags'***, although it must be noted that many 'normalfags' are regular users of the board****
*Although in practice people just add 'original' or 'oregano'+ to the end of their posts to force originality
+Herb chosen due to its similar spelling to 'original', which is what they are trying to make their post
**Sexually desirable and successful men, named after the stereotypical name for a high school jock. A Brad is similar but not identical
***Referring to normal people using the common suffix used on 4chan '-fag', eg. 'newfag', 'oldfag', 'samefag', 'tripfag' although it must be noted that this suffix is not inherently insulting, as seen in 'drawfag', a term of endearment and respect. 'Normie' is a similar term but is associated with Reddit+, so 'normalfag' is preferred
+4chan has historically disliked Reddit, to the point where it is an adjective used as an insult, e.g. 'Slaughterhouse-Five is too Reddit for me', however like all insults on 4chan which originally have a concrete meaning^ it has become meaningless
^Other examples include soi# and normalfag
#Referring to the bean alleged to reduce testosterone in males, intentionally misspelt to evade the word filter, which would change it to onions, which was put into place as a result of overuse of the word in 2018
****/r9k/ users are aware of this and regularly lament it

>> No.12186506

>>12183207
I squandered the time and resources so many wonderful people put into trying to educate me out of bitterness and pride.

So much so that I never became 120IQ enough to read Dee Eff Double U, and so I can't imitate his style. Cosmic poop.

>> No.12186511

>>12183477
>fostering
lol

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>>12183638
>>12185676

Thanks. I strongly recommend the exercise. The first time I did it (about two years ago), I wrote about my very earliest memories up to the end of elementary school. If nothing else, it gets you writing and can actually be really fun.

>> No.12186554

>>12183479

>> No.12187699

>>12186499
Damn, there are footnotes in your footnotes. That was actually fun to read.

>> No.12187948

>>12186499
did he really write like this? good riddance

>> No.12188153

>>12183479
It's a small world for well-established families etc

>> No.12188173

>>12187948
Assuming you've never read Wallace, and that lots of people on this board like Wallace, I'm going to assume this is bait.

>> No.12188290

>>12186499
based. fun read

>> No.12188375

For once, you faggots should work on writing prose, prosimetrum, verse that isn't just gimmicky gobbledygook.

>> No.12189078

>>12186499
unironically good post

>> No.12189101

I didn't really get much of it but I suppose no did. You look back yknow and you somehow expect beyond your own ability to perceive the expectation to see some shimmering cast of the lights of your own memories. They aren't there, not yesterday, not tomorrow. I waltzed in a well meaning snivel and came out a slowly sinking depravity. I scraped from cinder block wall the entrails of decency from myself just to toss them in a tiny corner waste basket.

>> No.12189105

>>12189101
*no one, also not actually OP

>> No.12190320

Bump.