Blood Meridian

[Anonymous No.12075482]

Blood Meridian is the result of a failed, uneducated, unemployed old man with a niche for using gore as a selling point. It's roughly on the same level as formula romance/crime stories.

An uneducated reader (if you don’t at least have a bachelor’s degree in English literature you are uneducated, it's not an insult) looks at McCarthy and see's a book that carries you, shocks you, but ultimately bores you 90% of the time especially since relating modern books to used up biblical allegory is just BORING and TIRED.

McCarthy has done an incredible thing though. He has tricked people into thinking that he didn't use a ripped up thesaurus while living with cockroaches in a shaggy motel off some roadside truckstop hooker hang up.

His idea of editing is taking proper prose and then cutting it up, removing key words, and throwing in a six syllable word that means "taking a shit against a tree".

He is the equivalent of a magician in literature. He dazzles people who have no real interest of understanding what it takes to be a magician.

Lastly, the whole idea of "show, don't tell" has been translated by McCarthy into, "don't tell anything, bible reference, remove a word, look at the thesaurus, rip off someone else's stories with a weak copyright, add gore, publish".

He has no real creativity. He's a bad, homemade, poverty re-press of a great vinyl. It's a true abomination.

[Anonymous No.12075498]

You could just have said you wanted to talk about blood Meridian

[Anonymous No.12075523]

>>12075482
why would someone write so much dumb shit just to try to bait people? I'm sorry for your father anon

[Anonymous No.12075549]

>>12075482

[Anonymous No.12075659]

>>12075482
Great analysis anon. Will you share some of your writing so we can see how you obviously improve on McCarthy's failures and deserve his undeserved praise?

[Anonymous No.12075675]

>>12075482
Made me kek in class, anon. Your bait was shit but it sure was funny.

[Anonymous No.12075680]

>>12075482
>Complains that someone is uneducated
>"see's"

[Anonymous No.12075687]

>>12075659
>oh, you say this video game is shit mr. critic? How many video games have you made!
>oh, you say this movie is shit mr. critic? How many movies have you made!

We are not comparing his works to mine, but to other “classics” like Moby Dick. I can confidently say that this may be the most overrated book of ALL TIME.

[Anonymous No.12075727]

>>12075687
Yea, but criticism is art in itself. Your critique of McCarthy hints at no greatness since it's mostly insult and poor accusations with poor to no reasoning. What constitutes a "used up" biblical reference? If he does indeed use a cut-up method, where does he fail where say, Burroughs or Sotos, succeed?

In other words, you suck shit.

[Anonymous No.12075827]

>>12075482
>uneducated reader
Harold Bloom called it possibly the greatest work of american literature

[Anonymous No.12075919]

>>12075482
I got a hearty kek from this, how can someone sincerely spew so much vitriol.

[Anonymous No.12076211]

>>12075482
>(if you don’t at least have a bachelor’s degree in English literature you are uneducated, it's not an insult)
according to what metric?

[Anonymous No.12076274]

>>12075827
>Harold Bloom called it possibly the greatest work of american literature
no way. i know he loves the book but i seriously doubt he ranks it with whitman, melville, james, stevens, eliot, et al.

[Anonymous No.12076313]

>>12076274
He does.

[Anonymous No.12076340]

>>12076313
prove it

[Anonymous No.12076528]

>>12075482
>Overly long, incoherent rant on how Blood Meridian and Cormac McCarthy are shit.

I don't disagree with the sentiment.

[Anonymous No.12076563]

>>12076340

Harold Bloom called these nuts the greatest work of nature. The proof is in the nuts.

[Anonymous No.12076576]

>>12075727
>What constitutes a "used up" biblical reference?
frequency of use
>where does he fail where say, Burroughs or Sotos, succeed?
they did it before him when it was fresh

[Anonymous No.12076674]

I agree that the violence and darkness and blood and the abject humorlessness strikes me as a bit maudlin and a sign of... idk some kind of shittiness. I haven't read the book in years though

[Anonymous No.12076696]

>>12076274
whoops

[Anonymous No.12076724]

Anyone wanna talk about Suttree? It's funny as shit and I prefer it over BM

[Anonymous No.12076734]

>>12076674
>humorlessness
I thought it had it's moments

[Anonymous No.12076742]

>>12076576
>frequency of use
But how are they used? Namedropping isn't the same as allegory isn't the same as metatexual reference.

C'mon anon, I may be naive in thinking this but surely you're better than this.

[Anonymous No.12076745]

I'm reading it right now and the prose is a bit too much for me. I understand most everything but many of the descriptions only by context and I am thus unable to appreciate it like I think I should.
That being said, god damn, fuck Holden

[Anonymous No.12076749]

>>12076724
Suttree is McCarthy's best novel in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.12076765]

>>12076696
your point? I already said he loved the book.
all he says is that its the best book by a living american.

[Anonymous No.12076785]

>>12076765
And that it augments the greatness of Moby Dick and that he is a worthy disciple of Faulkner and Melville.
>i seriously doubt he ranks it with [...] melville
WRONG

[Anonymous No.12076814]

>>12076785
you are assuming too much.
i guarantee he would say that Moby Dick far eclipses BM.

[Anonymous No.12076825]

>>12076814
anon just read anything he's said about it.

[Anonymous No.12076831]

>>12076825
i suppose i stand corrected.
i disagree with him though.

[Anonymous No.12078152]

>>12075482
Say that to my face irl fgt I swear on me mum

[Anonymous No.12079194]

ah, blood meridian, monsieur? that novel is the sark and chaparral of literature, the filament whereon rode the remuda of highbrow, corraled out of some destitute hacienda upon the arroya, quirting and splurting with main and with pyrolatrous coagulate of lobated grandiloquence. our eyes rode over the pages, monsieur, of that slatribed azotea like argonauts of suttee, juzgados of swole, bights and systoles of walleyed and tyrolean and carbolic and tectite and scurvid and querent and creosote and scapular malpais and shellalagh. we scalped, monsieur, the gantlet of its esker and led our naked bodies into the rebozos of its mennonite and siliceous fauna, wallowing in the jasper and the carnelian like archimandrites, teamsters, combers of cassinette scoria, centroids of holothurian chancre, with pizzles of enfiladed indigo panic grass in the saltbush of our vigas, true commodores of the written page, rebuses, monsieur, we were the mygale spiders too and the devonian and debouched pulque that settled on the frizzen studebakers, listening the wolves howling in the desert while we saw the judge rise out of a thicket of corbelled arches, whinstone, cairn, cholla, lemurs, femurs, leantos, moonblanched nacre, uncottered fistulas of groaning osnaburg and kelp, isomers of fluepipe and halms awap of griddle, guisado, pelancillo.

[Anonymous No.12079206]

>>12076528
it's a good thing that red box was in that image to direct me to the interesting part of it, there's no other way one could have noticed that on their own

[Anonymous No.12079212]

>>12075687
nigga you can write a book while homeless with your own shit
you can't make video games or movies while homeless with your own shit
kys

[Anonymous No.12079344]

>>12075482
Blood Meridian is a great bellwether for a person's reading comprehension when it comes to more advanced literary works. It's themes and ideas are very profound and important, but also more accessible and familiar (at least for the typical American reader) than those you find in say, Melville, Faulkner, or Steinbeck.

If you didn't "get" Blood Meridian, I seriously doubt you "got" the works of any of the above authors, or any other challenging literary works whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.12079386]

OP is trolling. Stop replying.

[Anonymous No.12079391]

>>12079194
Best post ive seen today, bravo

[Anonymous No.12079402]

>>12079194
>>12079391

Im revoking your bravo on the basis thag you have simply reproduced an internet list of vocab from blood meridean. Shame on you.

[Anonymous No.12079516]

>>12075482
Mccarthy's prose is great, when it blossoms out to the landscape it's really picturesque and it feels like you're gently swaying on the end of the tether, then when a violent scene comes it's always described in a really jarring, disconcerting, i almost wanna say an awkward way. it makes the violent scenes seem genuinely discordant and unnerving, set against nature's ineffable order, although in blood meridian the landscape is sometimes dreamily violent too.

All the pretty horses has the same style too, except that its emphasis is far more on the picturesque scenes

[Anonymous No.12079541]

>>12075482
Lads, can you imagine being this fucking wrong about anything in your life? Ever?

[Anonymous No.12079558]

>>12076734
The FIRST fucking scene is hilarious. The overwhelming violence can come off as funny sometimes - at least from a desensitized eye.

[Anonymous No.12079576]

>>12075482
fuck off gass

[Anonymous No.12079660]

>>12076563
the is the best post ive seen in my life

[Anonymous No.12080388]

>>12079402
It's pasta, newfag

[Anonymous No.12080403]

>>12075659
>to be a critic you have to be more talented than the person you are critiquing

[Anonymous No.12080425]

>>12076724
>>12076749
Agreed, it felt much more personal and tonally varied.

[Anonymous No.12080475]

>>12076696
>le X American novel
Jesus Christ, Americans are such dullards.

>inb4 OBSESSED

[Anonymous No.12080495]

>>12075482
JUDGED

[Anonymous No.12080717]

>>12079344
Whoa, whoa, whoa - Steinbeck? C'mon.
I mean The Red Pony and The Gray Pearl are fucking great.

[Anonymous No.12080928]

I'm pretty sure 90% of the faggots posting could barely understand this book.

You'd need to be ridiculously affeminate to find the violence in this book "shocking". It's just violence, mostly unnecessary(as in, adds nothing to the book), and it's always about blood and whatnot. If you've browsed the internet for +3 years you've seen actual real-life violence that is way bloodier and much more terrifying. The prose is ok at best imo, but whatever, prose is subjective.
If anything, people read this book to fill up their egos and boast about having done so for the "status"(status is the only motivator for most literature readers/professors). I've seriously never read a good analysis of this book, it is usually some dumbass saying "whoa the violence!!! Duuuuude, the Judge is like, war or something!!"

If anyone can post a good analysis I'd be genuinely thankful.

Just to be clear, the book is not bad, but it is hyped to the point of absurdity.

[Anonymous No.12081005]

>>12080928
If you think the violence was unnecessary you literally understood nothing

[Anonymous No.12081022]

>>12080928
https://youtu.be/FgyZ4ia25gg
https://youtu.be/7ZFmf4T5L3o
best imo, disagrees with Blooms reductive take on it

[Anonymous No.12081040]

>>12075482
Imagine talking like this about a video game. Actually you don't have to imagine, I'm sure everyone here is aware of such faggotry and how ridiculous it is.

There's nothing magical about fiction or "fine art" that differentiates it from any other type of entertainment or medium. Novels were originally viewed as being trash until the rich got interested in it, and then it was suddenly magical, culturally enriching shit because of people wanting to be like the rich, and the rich memeing about how great they are. Fuck your degree and fuck your aristocratic elitism, people have different tastes for different reasons, and placing yours above others as somehow superior is peak faggotry.

[Anonymous No.12081661]

>>12076734
This. Everytime the Judge went on with his ridiculous monologues and Brown went "Holden you're fucking crazy" made me kek

[Anonymous No.12081693]

Real talk, that is some Wordsworth-tier cover

[Anonymous No.12081716]

>>12081040
This thread is senescent in so many ways, the reply i’ll get from someone misinterpreting this included

[Anonymous No.12082171]

>>12076696
This was before Mason Dixon

[Anonymous No.12082353]

>>12082171
What do you mean anon?

[Anonymous No.12082356]

>>12079558

[Anonymous No.12082450]

>>12075482
Overall I enjoyed Blood Meridian, the gorey scenes were pretty vivid but the constant inane descriptions of the barren landscape and the obscure terminology for Mexican vegetation, wagon parts, etc. was pretty tiring.

I actually enjoyed the King James Bible prose, it adds an ‘epic’ feeling to the novel, I also enjoyed the Judges philosophical diatribes and gnostic theme

[Anonymous No.12082511]

>>12075482
nice bait if a bit obvious

[Anonymous No.12083653]

>>12082450
This. I suppose I just didn’t “get” it. The violence didn’t really shock me as expected and it was so common that it became pretty boring. I suppose that was the point, mindless violence, but it doesn’t make for an interesting read. Compared to American Psycho, where the way sex was tied into the violence and the way the books winds you up over and over to climax was so unnerving I didn’t want to finish it. Patrick Bateman was just the better character for it. That doesn’t make for a good read either but the deep sense of disgust it invoked was impressive. Generally though extreme violence is more interesting when it has a purpose and is significant to the plot and has some downtime inbetween to make it more significant. The endless landscape descriptions got pretty tiresome too after hearing them for the thousandth time with even more ridiculous thesaurus words.

[Anonymous No.12083658]

>>12082450
>constant inane descriptions of the barren landscape and the obscure terminology for Mexican vegetation, wagon parts, etc.
best parts of the book

[Anonymous No.12083991]

>>12079344
>If you didn't "get" Blood Meridian, I seriously doubt you "got" the works of any of the above authors, or any other challenging literary works whatsoever.

war good. man do war good.

[Anonymous No.12084136]

>>12075827
Harold Bloom is a fucking hack. Blood Meridian is not a bad book, but McCarthy is nowhere near Melville or Faulkner.

[Anonymous No.12084147]

>>12075482
>Having a degree in literature when anything STEM related is objectively better