/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.11959406]

WRITERS EDITION

>Do you write sff?
>How far along are you?
>Are you doing NaNoWriMo next month?

Monthly Reading for October: Sword in the Storm (The Rigante, #1) by David Gemmell

FANTASY
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SCIENCE FICTION
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NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
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SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries:
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Previously on /sciencefictionfantasygeneral/:
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[Anonymous No.11959410]

>>11959406
is that image a cult suicide

[Anonymous No.11959451]

>>11959410
The Goggle-translated title seems to be "Robbery Angel Agabarus"

[Anonymous No.11959482]

>no scifi books about fucking aliens
I feel cheated.

[Anonymous No.11959494]

>>11959482
You just need to look for them. Besides, a blend of textual/visual components makes for the best porn.

[Anonymous No.11959520]

>>11959494
>tfw ain't looking for those to beat off but because I feel that the sex enhances the romance
feels bad man

[Anonymous No.11959535]

>>11959520
Shit nigger, I know that feel. At this point I'm just getting my surrogate emotional intimacy from fugging xenophilia VNs. The ride will never end.

[Anonymous No.11959548]

The Red Knight series has really great battles but really shit everything else and I'm unsure how to feel about it.

[Anonymous No.11959601]

>>11959406
That's... that's surprisingly gay chink shit.

[Anonymous No.11959627]

>Do you write sff?
>writing
I spend all my time posting this image.

[Anonymous No.11959637]

>>11959627
what type of fantasy is it? I already had the book dl'd but I'm kinda avoiding it just because it is book of the month

[Anonymous No.11959679]

>>11959601
>tattoos on a woman

[Anonymous No.11959691]

>>11959679
Sexy innit?

[Anonymous No.11959698]

>>11959637
Heroic fantasy/wish fulfillment

[Anonymous No.11959704]

>>11959691
No, tattoos are for men of specific professions.

[Anonymous No.11959714]

>>11959637

Its basically fantasy ireland vs fantasy rome, with the Sidhe and geas being major factors in the plot.

>>11959627

As someone who read the first two books, the disconnect between the first and second is enough to where the first book feels almost self contained. It has a new focal character, and most of the resolutions for the first book feel like minute character moments, even the climax doesn't feel like it follows the first.

[Anonymous No.11959728]

>>11959714
>Its basically fantasy ireland vs fantasy rome, with the Sidhe and geas being major factors in the plot.
thanks, that's what I was confused over I looked up the second book like a year ago and thought it was historical fiction for some reason

[Anonymous No.11959759]

>>11959704
Bruv I am sorry Conor lost too but you can't go full gay over it. Other people also have the right to ink, not just your gay crush.

[Anonymous No.11959779]

>>11959623
Lord of Light is a masterpiece. I highly recommend it.

[Anonymous No.11959795]

>>11959759
Connor didn't lose, it was a tactical retreat so that he can win more money in the rematch.

[Anonymous No.11959912]

>>11959548
Red Knight is a shit book, and Miles Cameron is a shit writer.

[Anonymous No.11959915]

>>11959795
Your crush got his ass whopped.
Like there was some serious ass whooping going around.

[Anonymous No.11959926]

>>11959406
>>Do you write sff?
I'd like to.
>>How far along are you?
Concept stage, a few writing exercises.

[Anonymous No.11959929]

>>11959912
His historical fiction is good, even if he has a problem with negligent parents and abusive love interests.

[Anonymous No.11959939]

>>11959915
>>11959795
>>11959759
>>11959704
>>11959679
>>>/asp/
>>>/sp/
>>>/hc/
>>>/fit/

[Anonymous No.11959947]

>>11959929
The book was trash. You are just defending it because your sub genre has slim pickings.

[Anonymous No.11959953]

>>11959406
world building is just a nice way of saying autism

[Anonymous No.11959959]

>>11959947
>>11959912
>>11959548
Why do you dislike it?

[Anonymous No.11960000]

>>11959406
>>Do you write sff?
I'm working in a number of novels, currently have around 8 to 10 standalone stories planned with a variety of subgenres for each of them (prehistory, modern history, second world war, 50s detective, adventure, cyberpunk and post-cyberpunk, the far future after the apocalypse)so you can pick up any one of the books and enjoy them without having to worry you're missing key plot points because it's book 5 and you haven't read the others. They are all based in the same storyline and are all either sci-fi/fantasy as a main genre, it's just the setting that determines the subgenre.
>>How far along are you?
Almost halfway with a first draft of book one, it's going to be a long road ahead of me but for the first time in years I actually feel excited about doing something and that feels great. I don't care if I get famous or rich or whatever, I just want people to enjoy themselves when reading my stories and if I can get one person to enjoy them as much as a full fledged author then it's all going to be worth it for me.
>>Are you doing NaNoWriMo next month?
Probably not due to time constraints and studies, but there's always next year.

[Anonymous No.11960021]

>>11959939
Come on nigga.

[Anonymous No.11960038]

>>11960021
What the fuck is wrong with these people?

[Anonymous No.11960045]

>>11960021
Really disappointed this didn't end in a crash

[Anonymous No.11960046]

>>11960038
They are American?

[Anonymous No.11960270]

Need a story about fantasy crusaders. Up to my neck my fedora tipping protagonists who live in a world similar to the 12th century but have the mindset of ourselves. I need righteous slaughter.

[Anonymous No.11960309]

I hate having the mind that I do /sffg/. I just want to write a story that will be read for decades or centuries, but none of the stories I come up with have any potential staying power. They're all just garbage entertainment

[Anonymous No.11960322]

>>11960309
Being a brainlet is suffering.

[Anonymous No.11960347]

>>11960309
Writing is a skill developed over time.
What are you reading to influence yourself?

[Anonymous No.11960350]

Asoiaf is great, until Stannis dies.

[Anonymous No.11960370]

Song/fire/ice is good until book 4

[Anonymous No.11960385]

>>11960309
Ideas are easy, execution is the hard part. Spend more time practicing writing instead of trying to come up with something brand new right now.

[Anonymous No.11960469]

>>11960347
>>11960385

writing skill alone does not allow a story to survive. There have been countless great novels over the past century that you've never heard of because their popularity burned out quickly.

I'm trying to learn from YA, because all the most enduring fantasy novels of the last 150 years have been YA, but the subgenre itself has as much disposable entertainment as any other, if not more so. Everyone in the industry wants to be the next Rowling, but none of them will be.

What she did was target an audience still in their most impressionable years, appeal to a fantasy that was nearly omnipresent among them, cast as wide a net as possible and draw out her story so that the story guided them through their entire adolescence. That her writing was good mattered, but what mattered more was how she cultivated the minds of an entire generation

[Anonymous No.11960482]

>>11960350
you don't know that yet

[Anonymous No.11960514]

>>11960385
>>>/tv/

[Anonymous No.11960762]

the book of the nu sun

[Anonymous No.11960876]

>>11960469
You are looking for short cuts that do not exist. Rowling did not write one of the best selling fiction series in history without practice. She took up writing as a serious hobby fully 5 years before she ever submitted a manuscript for Harry Potter, and prior to that she had studied classical literature in college and even published essays. She was no stranger to writing or the publishing process, she just hadn't had any real success until Harry Potter.

[Anonymous No.11961025]

>>11960876
>>11960469
Age and experience have a lot to do with it too. Idk if that meme thread about age is posted anymore but most writers don’t have breakthroughs until they’re in their 30s. If you’re early 20s or younger, you may it have a lot of life experience to draw on for material, depth and complexity, and to understand what it takes to be relatable with mass appeal.

But I do think Talent is a thing. It isn’t magic and still needs development and the less talented can achieve quality with more effort. But some people don’t have it in them to rise above Good into Great.

[Anonymous No.11961039]

>>11960000
>nice quads
Sounds like an interesting set up Anon. Let us know when the first one is available. Just don’t go shilling overboard like that furry guy.

[Anonymous No.11961233]

>>11960469
I'm not saying writing skill is the only thing you need, but it's by far the most important. I assume you define "great novel" as one that's popular/sells well (nothing wrong with that), so if you look at the list of best selling books/series, they are almost all either: children's books, written by an established author, or written by someone with real life experiences who spent years writing and revising their first book.

I'm sure that there are plenty of amazing novels that have crashed and burned, but there are many more books on that list with good writing and poor concepts than the other way around. Rowling didn't come up with the concept after careful audience consideration, she drew on ideas from her own shitty life and wrote escapism.There is no author that consistently and repeatedly comes up with amazing stories before they even start, they have to rely on their writing skill to make the mundane magical.


>>11960876
According to wikipedia, HP has sold 500+ million copies, making it the best selling series period. It's insane to try to copy that. It was a combination of talent, work, and luck that created a perfect storm.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_books#List_of_best-selling_book_series

[Anonymous No.11961408]

>>11961233
Copying works pretty well actually. HP has an uncomfortable number of similarities to Worst Witch and Charmed Life and relies on the Orphan Chosen One trope.
Then there's Hunger Games, Fifty Shades, and Mortal Instruments.

Burt if we're talking literary quality the problem is that tastes change. Melville died a pauper. Shakespeare didn't become enshrined until the 18th century. On a much lower level, some old Hugo/Nebula winners are now out of print

[Anonymous No.11961484]

>>11961025
You will not magically transform into a good writer in your late 20s to early 30s. Nor will having "life experiences" suddenly make you a great writer. If you are not a natural born genius you will have to do what every other person does to get good at a skill: practice every day. Stop making excuses and start writing a journal.

[Anonymous No.11961497]

>>11961408
What exactly are you getting at? Pointing out that authors have influences on their writing? It's not copying, there was no "formula" she pursued, she just put ideas she was familiar with and liked a lot into her own work. She was an avowed fan of Charles Dickens, so she writes about an orphaned boy given a fortune and attending a school for a class of people he never imagined he could be a part of. That's generally how writing works. You get ideas, you use ideas, you refine ideas by writing about them a lot until you distill the best elements of your synergy.

[Anonymous No.11961522]

>>11960000
Nice quads anon. Very interested in the concept of post-cyberpunk -- some sort of deconstruction of the genre? I'd like you to elaborate.

[Anonymous No.11961598]

>>11961484
I'm not OP. I was trying to >imply he might not be mature enough to create a work that stands the test of time.

>>11961497
That Rowling stole a lot.

[Anonymous No.11961803]

What's the deal with Adrian Tchaikovsky, is he any good?

[Anonymous No.11961813]

>>11961803
I liked the spider book. He's more of a classic type of a sci-fi writer, in that he's all ideas and his characters are garbage cardboard cutouts.
Having said that, I tried the fantasy series he has and I couldn't make it more than a few chapters.

[Anonymous No.11961895]

>>11961039
I won't be shilling them, if someone were to post a thread about what works you have published (as I've seen a couple of times) then I might post mine. But I'm going to keep my fat mouth shut for now.

>>11961522
Well going from Wikipedia it works like this for regular cyberpunk: Classic cyberpunk characters were marginalized, alienated loners who lived on the edge of society in generally dystopic futures where daily life was impacted by rapid technological change, an ubiquitous datasphere of computerized information, and invasive modification of the human body.

Which paints a very bleak and depressing world to me, cyberpunk generally focuses on the person that feels a little lost by how fast it's going. Imagine if brain backups were just invented, who would benefit from this. The people with tonnes of money or the Everyman. It would mean that if you had enough money you could be immortalized which would give the same kind of vibe as the French revolution, where it is only the super rich that can afford to pay and maintain this level of technology.

Then we have post cyberpunk:
Postcyberpunk uses the same immersive world-building technique, but features different characters, settings, and, most importantly, makes fundamentally different assumptions about the future. Far from being alienated loners, postcyberpunk characters are frequently integral members of society (i.e., they have jobs). They live in futures that are not necessarily dystopic (indeed, they are often suffused with an optimism that ranges from cautious to exuberant), but their everyday lives are still impacted by rapidtechnological changeand anomnipresent computerized infrastructure.

This would in a way work after the revolution, technology at this point is not as a scary as it was before, maybe the character that we're following now works for the exuberant rich that could pay for those experimental modifications before the revolution and started a megacorp at some point.

This is more of a stepping stone for me since instead of focusing on question like are the modifications and other supertech moral like in a lot of cyberpunk works. I want it to come with the question "when does someone stop being human" since people can use the upgrades to learn a new skill instantly. Imagine becoming a fully licensed doctor or anything else you want to know that we can learn as humans you can simply get it from a vending machine and know it instantly.

Now for the difficult question.
Imagine that we could make a fully synthetic body, an eternal body meant to last thousand of years, perhaps even more. Nothing of the old human DNA used to make it and we put the mind of a person into that body. Is that person still a human or something else entirely.

Essentially what I want to say is, when did an ape stop being an ape and become a man, and when will a man stop being a man and become something more than a man? And far more importantly, at what cost.

[Anonymous No.11961908]

fucking hell i just read my first lift chapter. it was not awesome. not at all. what editor lets this shit make it to the press?

[Anonymous No.11961990]

>epic fantasy

[Anonymous No.11961995]

>>11961990
What's wrong with it?

[Anonymous No.11962014]

>>11961995
just ignore him, be you.

[Anonymous No.11962016]

>>11961995
It's the Big Bang Theory of fantasy.

[Anonymous No.11962030]

>>11961995
it's not based fantasy

[Anonymous No.11962032]

>>11962016
I never watched that show so that doesn't tell me anything.

[Anonymous No.11962046]

>>11961995
At its worst (which is most epic fantasy) it can be bloated and beyond tedious to read. Seems most epic fantasy writers think making your story as big as possible = a good story when it's the complete opposite. Not to mention the dumb ones who focus WAY too much on world-building; as if that can replace a good story.

[Anonymous No.11962087]

>>11962046
Then that's a problem with writing, not genre.

[Anonymous No.11962111]

>>11962087
Uh it is a problem with the genre if that's how the average epic fantasy writer writes. Epic Fantasy, by its very nature, is about being EPIC (hence being called epic fantasy) and that, more often than not, tends to lead to bloated and tedious storytelling.

I think I've just reached a point where I'd be perfectly fine never reading another modern epic fantasy series again. Bakker's Second Apocalypse series really did a number on me.

[Anonymous No.11962117]

>>11962111
Well if that's not your thing, sure.

[Anonymous No.11962213]

Fantasy homos are the worst.

[Anonymous No.11962231]

>>11959406
>>Do you write sff?
Well, I'm trying.

>>How far along are you?
3k words in after starting from scratch two weeks ago. 1st draft was abandoned at 20k when I realized I was writ8ng a scene with like 20 characters setting around a table and no idea who of them was important enough to introduce them.

>>Are you doing NaNoWriMo next month?
Originally I planned to, then my vacation got cancelled and I've been volunteered to run a marathon next year. Isn't it great when your boss tries to boost team morale with shared events outside of work hours?

[Anonymous No.11962305]

>>11961908
it's okay i read 300 pages of lift's awesomeness
I kinda started to like her, but I fucking hate the way her chapters are written

[Anonymous No.11962379]

Chronicles of Amber is a really nice change of pace from Jordan describing how warm bath water is for 10 pages.

[Anonymous No.11962399]

>>11962213
How's the therapy?

[Anonymous No.11962425]

When you have multiple books on your reading list, do you read them one by one, or two at a time (taking turns with chapters)?

[Anonymous No.11962450]

>>11962425
Personally I don't like to mix and match.
My reading list usually gets whittled down to two, maybe three titles actually worth reading. And that's even after I completely gave up on fantasy. The signal to noise ratio just got horrendous.

[Anonymous No.11962463]

>>11962425
I can't read more than one book at a time.

[Anonymous No.11962477]

>>11962425
I do two at a time but one of them is always an audiobook which I listen to when I can't read, like when I'm doing my chores or working out.

I'm picky about the audiobooks though, I usually only listen to books that I've already read before, like a reread but in audio. If it's a new book from my tbr list the narrator has to be really good or I'll just wait to read it normally.

[Anonymous No.11962543]

>>11962450
>>11962463
>>11962477
Thanks, the audiobook makes sense.

[Anonymous No.11962682]

2019:
New novel from G.G.Kay
New novel from Tad Williams
New novel from Joe Abercrombie
New novel from Scott Lynch
New novel from Ian Mcdonald
New novel from Neal Stephenson
New novel from Dan Simmons


Okay, this is epic

[Anonymous No.11962966]

>>11962682
>New novel from Scott Lynch

And it might actually come out since his life isn't falling apart.

[Anonymous No.11963082]

>>11962425
Finish one bool and then start the others, if I can't pick which one to do first I put the names in a randomizer so it shuffles them to an order I like.
I'm too worried I'll mix up the stories reading two books. Especially so in fantasy and science fiction books where there are a lot of overlapping themes between books but with subtle differences.

[Anonymous No.11963133]

>>11962682
>2019:
>New novel from G.G.Kay
Shit
>New novel from Tad Williams
Shit
>New novel from Joe Abercrombie
Shit
>New novel from Scott Lynch
(Bet it will still have emo shit from his wife dumping him) shit
>New novel from Ian Mcdonald
Never read any of his books
>New novel from Neal Stephenson
Shit
>New novel from Dan Simmons
Shit

[Anonymous No.11963148]

>>11963133
What isn't shit in your opinion?

[Anonymous No.11963157]

What are you fags reading? This economic fantasy I was shilled isn't working out for me.(seeing as I hate economics and wall street)

[Anonymous No.11963204]

Going to write a horror/fantasy hybrid about a bunch of Dwarfs discovering a new tunnel in their miles, upon miles long catacomb fortress filled with Eldritch monsters.

[Anonymous No.11963232]

>>11963157
Baru Cormorant?
I gave up on that basedboy fare. Absolutely no action what so ever.

>>11963204
It's a damn shame how often that happens.

[Anonymous No.11963252]

>>11963232

What verse should I make it in? Feels like it could do well under an epistle novel.

[Anonymous No.11963257]

I've read the first chapter but the Chinese revolution shit and everything is really going over my head. Is it worth continuing despite that for the scifi/surface plot alone?

[Anonymous No.11963267]

>>11963148

[Anonymous No.11963273]

>>11963252
Where should you introduce eldritch abominations?
Third to half of the novel in. You need time to build the feeling of creeping doom and unease. Throw in periods of heightened aggression and/or insanity where dorfs dig ever deeper looking for riches despite all the warning signs.
Pitch it to Netflix like Hobbit meets Mountains of Madness.

[Anonymous No.11963277]

Which series compares to ASoIaF? Meaning a somewhat complex plot and complex characters?

[Anonymous No.11963281]

>>11963277
see
>>11963267
Plus the author is almost as fat as GRRM.

[Anonymous No.11963286]

What Lovecraft book shall I buy?

[Anonymous No.11963292]

>>11963286
You would but Lovecraft's books?
Das racis'.

[Anonymous No.11963301]

>>11963286
Avoid first edition Barnes/Noble. Riddled with errors. Later ones are supposed to be very good.

[Anonymous No.11963308]

>>11963273

The opening scene is a bunch of Dwarf workers being freaked out after pulling one of their comrades out from the tunnel who died under mysterious circumstances and goes into history a little bit regarding the catacomb fortress. If I can't write it as a novel I'll probably try and pitch it as comic book.

[Anonymous No.11963343]

>>11963286
The three Penguin Classics volumes.

[Anonymous No.11963360]

>>11963257
Having some understanding of China under the communist regime will probably increase your enjoyment of the series but it's hardly necessary.

>>11963286
>buying Lovecraft books
He's dead and buried, just pirate them.

[Anonymous No.11963392]

>>11963133
Attention hungry faggot.

[Anonymous No.11963424]

>>11963257
Yeah nah keep going. I personally really enjoyed the historical chapters but yeah the sci-fi ramps up. Feel like I should mention though the first book is probably the weakest in the series, both translation, character and plot wise lol

[Anonymous No.11963439]

>>11963286
the necronomicon collection is pretty good. it contains all the stories pretty much. its about 30 bucks but totally worth it. theres also a special edition that runs you like 100 bucks that is more tome like and looks like the book is made out of flesh and has eldritch writing all over it. i personally only got the regular edition but if you like collecting stuff its probably a good idea to get.

[Anonymous No.11963449]

>>11963439
>Not buying the $180 Easton Press edition

[Anonymous No.11963452]

>>11963449
im pretty sure the contents are identical to the necronomicon.

[Anonymous No.11963463]

>>11963452
You're paying for the physical quality of the book, not the table of contents.

[Anonymous No.11963468]

>>11963463
>physically judging a book by its cover
only on /sffg/

[Anonymous No.11963475]

>>11963308
The execution is the key here. If you write it well it will be read.
Also I though comic industry was dying?

>>11963468
He didn't sat that you fantasy reading sperg.

[Anonymous No.11963477]

>>11963468
I'm sure this post made some sort of sense to you when you typed it, but I can't imagine what that might be.

[Anonymous No.11963497]

Is any of Frank Herbert's work other than the first Dune worth getting?

[Anonymous No.11963513]

Debating between writing a fantasy novel for NaNoWriMo or making a site for people to publish porn on, since Literotica is on some web 1.0 shit. Haven't decided yet if I go for the novel if I'd want it to be first person with an unreliable narrator or just go third person for the brainlets. Maybe I'll try writing a chapter 1 both ways this next week and see which comes out better.

[Anonymous No.11963546]

>>11963232
No orconomics

[Anonymous No.11963564]

>>11963392
At least I actually read the authors to get a subjective feel of their writing.
Have you read anything by any of those authors? Or are you speaking out your ass.

I'll give Ian McDonald a try sometime in the future.

[Anonymous No.11963574]

>>11963439
>>11963449
>not getting the barney version

[Anonymous No.11963597]

>>11963286
There's a free epub with all his original works available.
http://arkhamarchivist.com/free-complete-lovecraft-ebook-nook-kindle/

[Anonymous No.11963602]

>>11963497
There was an infographic about it. I'd stick the ones he wrote and not his son.

[Anonymous No.11963603]

>>11963286
Here you go, saving you some money.

[Anonymous No.11963607]

>>11963603
I had no idea he was so cool.

[Anonymous No.11963623]

>>11963607
Lovecraft was great, it's just salty leftists that dislike him because he uses the word nigger a lot.

[Anonymous No.11963637]

>>11963623
That's cuz his detractors are bunch a of niggers.

[Anonymous No.11963645]

>>11963637
Honestly if he were writing these days his detractors would probably be niggers or Muslims.
Maybe jews but it would never get published at all if he did that.

[Anonymous No.11963651]

>>11963564
Don't @ me coloniser

[Anonymous No.11963726]

>>11963623
I don't dislike him
t. actual leftist, not a liberal

[Anonymous No.11963928]

>>11963157
I just finished reading Instrumentalities of the Night by Glen Cook. Feels like he stopped one book short, cause there's tons of loose ends. One of my favorite alternate history fantasies for sure. He probably had to do a ton of research to capture the 13th century so well.

[Anonymous No.11963936]

>>11961598
>That Rowling stole a lot.
So did every great writer worthy of note. Find me one who didn't.

[Anonymous No.11963944]

>>11963936
Murakami

[Anonymous No.11964403]

>>11963944
What part of
>every great writer
Don't you understand?

[Anonymous No.11964461]

>>11962425

no i just keep buying more and never getting around to reading them

[Anonymous No.11964480]

>>11964461
>buying

[Anonymous No.11964493]

>>11964480
>yes

[Anonymous No.11964563]

>>11964480
>supporting the writers so they'll keep writing
Mite b cool

[Anonymous No.11964571]

>>11964563
Very few alive today are worth supporting and the dead ones don't need the money.

[Anonymous No.11964572]

>>11963928
>Feels like he stopped one book short, cause there's tons of loose ends

IIRC he said in a interview that while he was finishing the third book the series got canceled and he'd planned that it would have been 5-6 books long in total, so the 4th book ended up being highly condensed.

[Anonymous No.11964588]

>>11959406
Whoever recommended this book, eat a dick. I literally have enough shit on my reading list and this stupid book is too good

[Anonymous No.11964642]

I'd like to thank the anon who recommended this. I thought it was just a meme at first but it was honestly one of the best series of books I've ever read and the author is a genius.

[Anonymous No.11964710]

>>11964642
I hope you get butthole cancer

[Anonymous No.11964987]

>>11964588
Sounds like shit.

[Anonymous No.11965000]

I was gonna start in on this for shits and giggles, but I can't even get past the first page. The obviousness of how much this wants to be bad ass is too comical.

[Anonymous No.11965011]

>>11965000
I heard it was good and I somewhat like the basic concept but that dedication and the first two pages made me want to vomit.

[Anonymous No.11965057]

>>11965011
The concept of a story about half-orcs who ride giant boars is great and appeals to my inner 12 year old, but the OBVIOUSNESS of what it's trying to do is... well... too obvious. I can't help but laugh at imagining the writer thinking to himself as he write this, "OH MAN THIS FUCKING SHIT IS GONNA BE SO BAD ASS! LIKE MOTHERFUCKING HALF-ORC BIKERS BEING ALL BAD MOTHERFUCKERS AND SHIT ON HUGE ASS BATTLE BOARS INSTEAD OF MOTORCYCLES!"

[Anonymous No.11965088]

>>11964588
This looks interesting. Thanks.

>>11965000
This looks terrible. I might read it for a laugh.

[Anonymous No.11965142]

>>11956509
>Lift pressed her hand against the seeds, then summoned her awesomeness.
> Her stomach grumbled. When had she last eaten? She’d used a lot of her awesomeness practicing earlier. She probably should have stolen something to eat. She wasn’t quite so awesome when she was hungry.
> Lift was tempted to use her awesomeness to slide across the floor quickly, but she didn’t need that yet. Besides, Wyndle kept complaining that she used the awesomeness too often. That she was at risk of malnutrition, whatever that meant.
>The few bites she’d taken earlier worked within her. She felt the familiar feeling, like a storm in her veins. Liquid awesomeness. The pain faded from her chest as she healed.
>Go! She leaped to her hands and knees. He seized her by the shoulder, but she could escape that. She summoned her awesomeness.
>Awesomeness returned.
>Darkness was awesome too.

[Anonymous No.11965147]

>>11962682
Add Stephen R Donaldson and Philip Pullman to that list too.
Not that anyone cares but there's an exert of Donaldson's newest posted recently:
http://stephenrdonaldson.com/TheWarWithinPrologue.pdf
Book 2 of his new trilogy so it won't make sense unless you've read the first one.
I just found The Summer Tree at a used bookstore so I hope it's not shit.

[Anonymous No.11965153]

>>11965142
>Sanderson is a good writ-

[Anonymous No.11965165]

>>11965142

[Anonymous No.11965180]

>heroic fantasy

[Anonymous No.11965183]

>>11959953
Wtf I hate world building now. Malazan is an exercise in solipsism and autism

[Anonymous No.11965193]

i dont know if this is genius or just straight up an engineers fantasy come to life.
its like women in tech the novel.

[Anonymous No.11965216]

>>11965165
The Awesomest writer ever

[Anonymous No.11965219]

>>11965183
World building is a good example of superfluous details

[Anonymous No.11965221]

>mfw there's been a Black Conan since 1981 and the 'woke' fantasy crowd never talks about it
Even the setting is in a fictionalized Africa.

[Anonymous No.11965251]

I've been confused as to why Tolkien's Dwarves have Germanic-sounding personal names even though their language and place names are all very semitic. But now I'm thinking it was intentional because a lot of Jews have adopted German names like Stein/Schneider/Klein and stuff. Or he gave them those names when he wrote the Hobbit and didn't design their language until later before the Lord of the Rings

[Anonymous No.11965322]

>>11965251
Honestly, speaking as a jew, the examples of dwarven language I'm seeing in the wiki seem way closer to arabic than hebrew. Arabic is all Kha- this that za- that. Hebrew is more focused on starting every word with something phlegmy-sounding, and ending it with an -im. Also if there's not at least one -h'ar- you're screwing up nearly as bad as the grandmothers of our entire ethno-religious group when they codified our cuisine Seriously, I can understand how gefilte fish sounded like something that should theoretically work, but kugel has no fucking excuse for existing

[Anonymous No.11965330]

>>11959406
Ok, i'm in.
I'm not a main english writter, but i need info for this board.
I created a sci-fi novel and this is my synopsis:
The beginning of an era marked the end of a horrible civil war between genders of a distant race in a nearby galaxy, the last man who will also be the main protagonist of this novel.
Starting from the minimum and being the only son of the queen, heroine of such a civil war; He demonstrated skill and respect, becoming the martyr of the race.
But they murdered him, remaining in a coma for months until being revived by the breed's own technology.
No one knows what will happen: will his eternal suffering end or will he only remain the target of a great amount of attacks against his being?
Only left is the cover page, but this is working out by a friend of mine.
The premise is good? I only played videogames & reading dictionaries for years.
I'm not a egocentric piece of shit, if you ask.

[Anonymous No.11965337]

>>11965322
well, Arabic is semitic at least. the Dwarf language reminds me more of the 'Akkadian' names of Babylonian/Assyrian sites than Hebrew

[Anonymous No.11965341]

>>11965330
Cool story

[Anonymous No.11965360]

>>11965330
But look out. If this story is heard outside of 4chan all the feminists will try to attack the story (even if they can’t attack you)

[Anonymous No.11965362]

>>11965337
maybe, I'm more knowledgable about cuisines than languages.

Honestly, I wish I could channel that into a YA novel but most kids aren't interested in any food except candy and charlie and chocolate factory already exists

[Anonymous No.11965375]

>>11964987
You low iq cretin

[Anonymous No.11965383]

>>11965142
Someone needs to send this guy a thesaurus

[Anonymous No.11965395]

>>11965360
I know, but this is a catch:
The protagonist is being protected by women for the same race progressivelly, not forced or anything shitty.
And the feminism, being a good thing, falls over the whole story
I gonna wanna laugh if the feminists attack the book, but a commentary belows that complains the argument.
My novel don't touch the politics, but focused in the extremes for that, indirectly.

[Anonymous No.11965398]

>>11965142
these are fake right

[Anonymous No.11965410]

>>11965398
Sandersonfags are a vocal minority so I can understand why you thought he was good however now you can just see for yourself
https://www.tor.com/2013/12/10/words-of-radiance-excerpt-lift/

[Anonymous No.11965415]

>>11965410
This gives me hope even I can get published one day

[Anonymous No.11965422]

The 1000 years of dark age is not mere hand waving -- "ALAS, WE ARE BARBARIANS NOW" but rather a gradual change characterized by specific socioeconomic markers such as: the lack of trained nuclear engineers, the predominance of independent feudal kingdoms, and even the scarcity of organic tobacco.

The author spends over 600 pages painstakingly constructing a world which consists exclusively of grown men who concern themselves with such diverse topics as: administration, finance, business, politics, algebra, and bureaucracy; a world completely devoid of music, performing arts, females, sports, religion, and exercise.

After several generations, some assclown grabs a mandolin by the museum exhibit, uses it to kill three space Nazis, penetrates a spaceship the main character named after his wife (who's on the ship), and then claims he has a huge dick.

Asimov has elevated the entire genre of hack writing to hitherto unknown.

[Anonymous No.11965424]

>>11964571
And do you buy the books of the living writers that are worth supporting?

[Anonymous No.11965439]

>>11965362
I'd read it, fellow foodfag.

[Anonymous No.11965445]

>>11965415
Just copy Sanderson and you'll make it.

[Anonymous No.11965449]

>>11964571
>Not giving based Christopher Tolkien money
Children of Hurin is a 10/10

[Anonymous No.11965489]

>>11965439
I would like that anon. unfortunately I have to think of the right one. I do have that traveling chef idea, but thematically, it's kind of a nightmare and I have no idea what the hell the villain is doing

maybe I can find a way to adapt that "wicked, but for willy wonka" idea I had in college so that it's more original. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is after all just a modern Hansel and Gretel with capitalism and moral ambiguity

[Anonymous No.11965499]

What's some good medieval fantasy where the writing doesn't make one cringe.

[Anonymous No.11965503]

>>11964563
>>11964571
>>11964563

>supporting the writers
>worth supporting
>worth supporting

Buy him an ergonomic walker, you euphemist p**ks!

[Anonymous No.11965506]

>>11965499
Does Conan count?

[Anonymous No.11965549]

>>11965506
Yes I read it, it's quite good I enjoyed it.

I was thinking more "political" intrigue with adventure, kingdoms, magic, etc.

[Anonymous No.11965553]

>>11965499
The Wizard Knight

[Anonymous No.11965570]

>>11965221
the woke crowd doesnt consume media

[Anonymous No.11965594]

>>11965499
the Amber series by Zelazny

[Anonymous No.11965658]

>>11965549
Trust me you don't want to read a fantasy writer's pitiful attempt at politics

[Anonymous No.11965668]

>>11965594
>medieval

[Anonymous No.11965676]

>>11965142
>there are people amongst us who still rate Sanderson

[Anonymous No.11965684]

>>11965499
>>11965549
Check out Curse of Chalion. Basic premise is this knight/minor nobleman returns home a broken man after being betrayed and sold as a galley slave, his former patron recognizes him and hires him to tutor her granddaughter in the ways of court, but stuff happens and they get swept up in various intrigues and so on.

The book is essentially standalone too, no "book 5 of the overwrought fantasy name cycle" bullshit here, the sequels are about different characters. And IMO it's one of Bujold's best works.

[Anonymous No.11965687]

>>11965676
Well it's just that one character but the fact he thought it was a good idea in the first place is sort fo sad. He has other characters with annoying quirks too but Lift is the worst and he's probably going to make more

[Anonymous No.11965699]

>>11965684
Thanks for the recommendation I'll check it out.

>>11965658
Oh I know this is why I've put politics under quotation marks, Kingdoms and feuds are good enough for me.

[Anonymous No.11965830]

What the hell happened? Why did the second book suck so bad when the first one was okay?
I feel like I just wasted my time.

[Anonymous No.11965889]

>>11965830

At least the author had mercy on us and won't release the third book.

[Anonymous No.11966116]

>>11965830
author started smelling his own farts, ignored his editor

it happens all the time when a writer hits it big, he becomes a self-indulgent idiot

[Anonymous No.11966124]

>>11966116
Yeah no. Patrick here is so bad a battalion of editors wold not help him.

[Anonymous No.11966155]

Want to get into fantasy more but found so many recommended ones to be super long or in a big series.
What books are absolutely worth reading(preferably not giant books or in a long series unless they’re that good)?

[Anonymous No.11966166]

>>11966155
try Tigana and The Lions of Al-Rassan by Guy Gavriel Kay, they are fairly long but standalone books, not part of a series

[Anonymous No.11966191]

>>11965410
This seems about the quality of writing I do now and I've just gotten started. I can't wait till I actually improve and blow Sanderson the fuck away.
It's nice to have a goal sometimes.

[Anonymous No.11966194]

>>11964642
I saw once an excerpt of one of the books where the protagonist queen is described as some inexorable force of nature sweeping everyone in its path toward a divinely ordained end of history. Shit is outright totalitarian. Just like in >>11965142 , self awareness doesn't seem to be fantasy authors' strongest suit.

[Anonymous No.11966225]

>>11965362
Ratatouille was a movie that was about food as a main focus made not too long ago and it's praised as one of the best movies Pixar has ever made.
There is also a manga called dungeon meshi where they cook various things they find while exploring a dungeon, again with the main focus on food.
For example if I were to write a book about food is probably write it as a story about a cook that has gotten bored with traditional ingredients that are available near him and sets out to find something new in far away fictional lands, slowly becoming a legendary knight errant that shows up to slay legendary creatures to get the ingredients to make the dishes he wants, which might be the one perfect dish he's looking for.

[Anonymous No.11966547]

>>11965142
ok, this is awesome

[Anonymous No.11966550]

>>11965142
No way. I planned on reading Stormlight Archives but fuck, I might not do that now if that's what the writing is like.

[Anonymous No.11966608]

>>11966550
that's not what the writing is like, it's only like that for that one specific character's chapters and that's only because she's some lolibait who made a deal with the night mother to stay a child forever
yes, it's fucking dumb but that's because you're basically reading from the perspective of a child

[Anonymous No.11966685]

>>11966166
>>11966155
If you are reading anything by Guy G Fag, only read Tigana. All his other books are shit.

[Anonymous No.11966713]

>>11966608
Pls no more excuses. They are not awesome.

[Anonymous No.11966723]

Any sci-fi novels with a good romance?

[Anonymous No.11966727]

>>11966713
https://www.tor.com/2010/06/10/prelude-to-the-stormlight-archive/

[Anonymous No.11966743]

>>11966155
Just read Lord of the Rings. It's long, but in total it's only the length of one book in one those modern 10-book series.

[Anonymous No.11966750]

>>11966743
WoT stands at 17 books

[Anonymous No.11966755]

>>11966750
Wikipedia says it's almost 12,000 pages long. The Lord of the Rings is around 1,000 pages.

[Anonymous No.11966762]

>>11966727
>For if you were going to assassinate a man, he was entitled to see you coming.
>“What am I?” Szeth whispered, a bit of Light leaking from his lips as he looked past the man down the long hallway. “I’m . . . sorry.”
>To Szeth’s people, a dying request was sacred. He took the king’s hand, dipping it in the man’s own blood, then used it to scrawl on the wood, Brother. You must find the most important words a man can say.

Egads!

[Anonymous No.11966765]

>>11966750
Plus the TV show. I wonder how bad will it be.

[Anonymous No.11966774]

>>11963513
Do you have an idea for the literotica website, I'm currently finishing a webdev course (beginner HTML5/CSS3 stuff to get back into it) and I had no idea that it was on such a basic looking platform. It depends what you'd prefer to work on anon, do you have any experience in web development or are you going to make a wordpress website and call it a day ?

[Anonymous No.11966783]

>>11966765
IIRC that piece of news barely got a reaction here. Do we really dislike Sanderhack that much?

[Anonymous No.11966793]

>>11965330
It kinds of sounds like the story for Y the last man.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y:_The_Last_Man

[Anonymous No.11966801]

>>11966783
I don't think it's dislike. It's more down to lack of interest. I didn't even know about the show until it popped up a couple of times on /tv. Even then it was just a few threads.
Compared to the storm of shit that was (and still is) Witcher, the WoT was a wet fart.

[Anonymous No.11966986]

>>11959406
hi anons, first time on /lit/, I'm looking for hard SF / space opera books. I started with The Expanse and worked my way out to KSR (read most of his stuff) and Stephen Baxter (almost all of his stuff). I enjoy Clarke/Asimov era tales but really liked "Saturn Run" by Sandford and "Mote in God's Eye" and "Fire Upon The Deep" and "Blindsight" by Watts. Weir is too campy.

I've ripped through the first few Honor Harrington books but they seem to be moving away from Space combat (which I love) and toward society and political plots.

A book I read years ago that may have started this binge was "Star Corpsman: Abyss Deep" by Ian Douglas -- I went on to read his Star Carrier series which I enjoyed immensely for the first few books. Star Carrier is kind of the outer bound of what I'm interested in though. Ideally I want to read about people dealing with the complexities of space life, not riding miniature black holes at significant fractions of C fighting stereotypical space ayylmaos.

Finally, above even the technical writing, what I Really love are stories of horror and struggle in space, a lá Ark by Baxter where dozens of people live in a tiny metal tube for decades and have to endure fire, famine and filth and raise children among it. The first two thirds of Seveneves was another good one like this. Things that really stretch the bounds of the human condition, but realistically in space.

Any recommendations? Should I make my own thread?

[Anonymous No.11967030]

>>11966986
Please don't disturb the rest of the board's delicate ecosystem of fart-smelling

[Anonymous No.11967034]

>>11967030
I was just hoping my farts might be worth a whiff too...

[Anonymous No.11967056]

>>11966986
You did try the Revelation Space series, right?

[Anonymous No.11967136]

>>11966986
Vorkosigan my dude

[Anonymous No.11967152]

>>11966793
Ironically i'm based more of videogames that books, so, this is a coincidence

[Anonymous No.11967215]

>>11966723
Shards of Honor

[Anonymous No.11967322]

>>11966723
BotNS

[Anonymous No.11967336]

>>11966191
Sanderson's appeal is his "world-building". He also has one character that appears in every series and every book happens in the same universe called the cosmere. The problem is that he only has one or two things that hint that universal shenanigans and he's not going to start writing crossover books until at least 15 books from now. So Sandersonfags spend their making theories only having tiny pieces of information to work with. Sanderson only appeals to autists. Most of his books follow the same formula if you read Mistborn or a stormlight book you can ignore 80% of the remaining books.

[Anonymous No.11967339]

>>11966762
I can't believe that moron thought this was a good example. The absolute state of Sandersonfags

[Anonymous No.11967345]

>>11966801
That's because we all know WoT will be a feminist fantasy where the Aes Sedai are the protagonists instead of what really happened (Aes Sedai doing stupid shit and Rand and Mat having to clean up their every mess they leave behind)

[Anonymous No.11967347]

Are there any good standalone scifi/fantasy books from like, the last 3 years?

[Anonymous No.11967359]

>>11967345
I haven't read WoT but
>Set in an epic world where magic exists but only women can use it, “The Wheel of Time” follows Moiraine, a member of the shadowy and influential all-female organization called the “Aes Sedai,” as she embarks on a dangerous journey with five young men and women across the world. Moiraine is interested in these five “because she believes one of them might be the reincarnation of an incredibly powerful individual, who prophecies say will either save humanity or destroy it,” Amazon said in a statement.
is this what happens at the start of the series?

[Anonymous No.11967362]

>>11966608
>Kaladin
>Sanderson repeats the same arc of being depressed over and over again
>Shallan
>I'm so witty and smart everyone around me is retarded XD
>Dalinar
>Only tolerable character
>Szeth
>reluctant assassin
>Jasnah
>Super smart atheist
>Adolin
>used to be okay but ended as Shallan's beta orbiter

[Anonymous No.11967379]

>>11967362
Kaladin is pretty goal-oriented in book 3 but he never really got rid of his depression, that's true
Shallan sucks, the rest are right but Adolin fucked anyone with a hole between their legs before even meeting Shallan it's pretty unfair to call him an orbiter yet

[Anonymous No.11967384]

>>11967359
No the start of the series is the aftermath of the chosen one leading his companions to fight the Dark One and sealing him but at the result of becoming crazy when using magic. The women stayed behind because they thought he would fail. They then become the de facto rulers and magically castrate every man with magic which leads to magic as a whole becoming weaker and by the time of the series the Aes Sedai are way weaker than their enemies. The first wheel of time book mainly follows Rand

[Anonymous No.11967390]

>>11967379
Bro Sanderson likes Shallan and Lift. You're going to see even more of them. Lift also may become a flashback character

[Anonymous No.11967397]

>>11967390
Don't think Lift is gonna get her own flashbacks, those are laid out until book 5 and he said he doesn't wanna do any more of them to focus on the actual plot after that. Also she basically got her own book already.

[Anonymous No.11967401]

>>11967390
>Sanderson will write a book which contains 50k mentions of awesome in your lifetime

[Anonymous No.11967406]

>>11967397
Books 1-5 are one arc and then there's a timeskip and we get books 6-10.

[Anonymous No.11967407]

>>11967339
>4500 YEARS LATER
>“You’ve killed me. Bastards, you’ve killed me! While the sun is still hot, I die!”
>“A man stood on a cliffside and watched his homeland fall into dust. The waters surged beneath, so far beneath. And he heard a child crying. They were his own tears.”

I think you're just jealous of all that QUALITY.

>>11967345
I think they also messed up the casting. The usual blacks/browns cast as white characters, but that's to be expected at this point.

[Anonymous No.11967414]

>>11959406
I'd love to write scifi, but magical realism is the only thing that I can actually write worth a damn.
If anyone is interested in reading my shit, I'll make them free for tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.11967418]

>>11967397
>Three years ago, Lift asked a goddess to stop her from growing older--a wish she believed was granted. Now, in Edgedancer, the barely teenage nascent Knight Radiant finds that time stands still for no one. Although the young Azish emperor granted her safe haven from an executioner she knows only as Darkness, court life is suffocating the free-spirited Lift, who can't help heading to Yeddaw when she hears the relentless Darkness is there hunting people like her with budding powers. The downtrodden in Yeddaw have no champion, and Lift knows she must seize this awesome responsibility
Sandersonfags must still have the mentality of a teenager if they like this shit

[Anonymous No.11967424]

>>11967407
>4500 YEARS LATER
>“You’ve killed me. Bastards, you’ve killed me! While the sun is still hot, I die!”
>“A man stood on a cliffside and watched his homeland fall into dust. The waters surged beneath, so far beneath. And he heard a child crying. They were his own tears.”
what's this from?

[Anonymous No.11967428]

>>11967414
>magical realism

[Anonymous No.11967435]

>>11967424
Some QUALITY writing from The Way of Kings: Prelude, Prologue, Chapters 1-3 (Excerpt).

>>11967414
>magical realism

[Anonymous No.11967436]

>>11967424
The Way of Kings

[Anonymous No.11967438]

>>11967414
>magical realism

[Anonymous No.11967462]

I was about to start reading the stormlight archive but I changed my mind. Anyone got a novel that isn't cringeworthy?

[Anonymous No.11967463]

>>11967407
>quoting lines that aren't even part of the narrative
if it's so shit why did you have to reach so fucking far?

[Anonymous No.11967472]

>>11967463
Platypus is that you?

[Anonymous No.11967475]

>>11967462
Specific to fantasy or just good?

[Anonymous No.11967478]

>>11967472
im literally brandon sanderson

[Anonymous No.11967481]

>>11967478
You can always strive to be something better anon.

[Anonymous No.11967482]

>>11967475
Just good. Fantasy is preferred I guess but it doesn't really matter

[Anonymous No.11967485]

>>11967462
You can read Spanish?

[Anonymous No.11967489]

>>11967485
No

[Anonymous No.11967490]

>>11967482
Not a novel and not fantasy, but I really liked Driftglass (the short story collection)

[Anonymous No.11967495]

>>11967489
Well... that's bad, but don't worry, i had translate behind.
Professional i mean[/sppiler]

[Anonymous No.11967511]

Jitterbug Perfume, Skinny Legs and All = magical realism
I'll bet you guys thought of sparkly vampires and teenage witches.

[Anonymous No.11967515]

What are some good standalone fantasy/scifi books of say, the last three years?

[Anonymous No.11967517]

>>11967511
>magical realism

[Anonymous No.11967518]

>>11967482
Dispatches by Michael Herr.
Funnily enough the author claims a lot of the book is fictional so it gets a pass on technicality regarding the genre. Excellent novel.
Cold Skin by Alberto Sanchez Pinol.
And... I don't know... maybe A Darkling Sea by James Cambias.

[Anonymous No.11967521]

>>11967511
>magical realism

[Anonymous No.11967523]

>>11967517
Hot.

[Anonymous No.11967532]

>>11967518
>>11967490
Alright I'll look into those

[Anonymous No.11967535]

>>11967521

[Anonymous No.11967549]

>>11967523
Good taste.

>>11967535
Man, your book covers are shit. Find some artists to cozy up to that might do trades of writing for art.

[Anonymous No.11967596]

>>11967549
That's my pseudonym from my first books.
I no longer have a say in the covers.

[Anonymous No.11967599]

>>11967596
Well that's a crying shame, then.

[Anonymous No.11967606]

>>11967347
Saturn Run

[Anonymous No.11967619]

>>11967384
>women benefit from being cowardly
Typical

[Anonymous No.11967644]

>>11967619
You'd fit right in.

[Anonymous No.11967697]

>>11967644
I'd get stuck right in

[Anonymous No.11967700]

what does /sffg/ think of Yahtzee's books? I was thinking of giving them a try

[Anonymous No.11967801]

>>11967700
You can do so much better anon.

[Anonymous No.11967809]

>>11967700
looks like shitty wow fanfic from the cover art, even has a similar font

[Anonymous No.11967814]

>>11967801
He has a cute mutt gf

[Anonymous No.11967836]

>>11967814
>mutt gf
Norw I am imagining some freaks in fursuits furiously copulating.
I hope you are not reading anything by him or his cute mutt gf.

[Anonymous No.11967890]

>>11966986
Alastair Reynolds, seems like most of his work would fit you.

[Anonymous No.11967897]

>>11966801
Does WoT or Sanderson stuff get a show?

[Anonymous No.11967899]

>>11967517
>That pic
Uptades can't come fast enough.

[Anonymous No.11967910]

>>11967899
Artist is streaming now. Concept art for a future update.

[Anonymous No.11967920]

>>11967897
Amazon is making for WoT, haven't heard anything about Sanderson.
Wot is shit and everyone that enjoys it is a homosexual btw.

[Anonymous No.11967929]

>>11967897
some gook studio bought the license to cosmere stuff apparently and there's a stormlight VR game/tech demo

[Anonymous No.11967957]

Went to a book fair today and found Fifth Head of Cerberus, Urth of the New Sun and the Long Sun duology. Wasn't even expecting I'd actually find anything by Wolfe there other than New Sun stuff.

[Anonymous No.11967964]

>>11967957
Damn nigger, great haul.

[Anonymous No.11967972]

>>11967964

This one guy told me to come tomorrow and check with him again, he says they have more of Wolfe, they just didn't bring everything in yet on the first day. Here's hoping I can find Wizard Knight or maybe Latro.

[Anonymous No.11967975]

>>11967152
It doesn't matter though, at some point stories tend to have some similar plotpoints, as long as you make it your own thing and not y the last man fanfiction it should work out just fine.

[Anonymous No.11968004]

>Read Fifth Head and Book of the New Sun

Where do I go with Wolfe next, Wizard Knight or Latro? I like the sound of Latro a lot. Also I'm reading American Gods and I have to say I'm pretty disappointed with it especially after being hyped so much regarding Gaiman's prose but it is nothing special to me.

[Anonymous No.11968023]

>>11967972
Good luck.

[Anonymous No.11968035]

>>11968004
Latro is great. I have not personally read Wizard Knight yet so I can't say if it's better.

[Anonymous No.11968059]

HOBEY HO BOBBY LET'S GO HANG US SOME SNIGGERS

[Anonymous No.11968069]

>>11968004

If you read Latro, you should follow it up with Soldier of Sidon.

[Anonymous No.11968086]

>>11968059
>name book Pendragon
>not even about king arthur
what the heck

[Anonymous No.11968110]

>>11968004
I haven't read Latro, but I think it depends on what you're looking for. Wizard Knight is very straightforward compared to BotNS, whereas I think Latro is closer in terms of having to work to figure out what's going on.

[Anonymous No.11968170]

>>11967336
I've never read any of his works, I tried listening to an audiobook of the Way of Kings from the stormlight books but I couldn't get too into it.
It just starts with a character that effortlessly slaughters knights and guards like they're common untrained people and it just made it feel rather dull. There was just no buildup to it and it just ruins it for me. You can't have your big explosive action moment as an opener it just makes what comes after it extra slow and dulled in comparison.

[Anonymous No.11968185]

>>11967414
I'll give it a read anon.

[Anonymous No.11968207]

>>11967462
Try Lovecraft
http://arkhamarchivist.com/free-complete-lovecraft-ebook-nook-kindle/
Or maybe Poe
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/attachment.php?s=f0be8eabaf0ade4647c2dd823d025dc3&attachmentid=156318&d=1492936385

[Anonymous No.11968271]

>>11967056
Is that stuff actually worth something?

[Anonymous No.11968303]

>>11967414
I'll take a copy please

[Anonymous No.11968305]

>>11965830
Why is he standing like a fag?

[Anonymous No.11968333]

I'm reading Ship Breaker now, it's a weird feeling because I once followed Bacigalupi very closely, he's the only writer I ever followed from practically their first story. But after The Windup Girl I stopped caring because it looked like he was turning into a one-trick pony with the climate change stuff. That said I'm glad I'm finally reading this, it's entertaining enough.

[Anonymous No.11968387]

>>11966986
Campbell's Lost Fleet

Its unabashedly like the first Honor Harrington books, but with more focus on actual aliens.

I'll second Revelation Space, and throw on Hull Zero Three as a sci-fi horror.

[Anonymous No.11968412]

>>11968387
>campbell
Shan't be reading anything from that murderous name.

[Anonymous No.11968445]

>>11965422
the only good foundation book is the one with the Mule

[Anonymous No.11968449]

>>11967215
seconded

[Anonymous No.11968492]

Supposedly books/bookshelves are a convenient source of makeshift rad shielding.
Good to know.

[Anonymous No.11968560]

In the distant future, mankind lives away from Earth within the utopian space station, Algo. With all their needs and wants care for by a “Mother” an advanced A.I. And The Forever Society, an order of super scientists which created all of it, the lives of those aboard the megastation are existences of abundance and chemical inebriation. The main character, a girl named Luma who races jet packs for sport begins to suspect things aren’t right behind the veil of the perfection.

When forces beyond her control draw her into the dealings of the Forever Society, Luma will find herself set on an adventure across new worlds and dimensions to protect Algo and those she cares for.

Should be 3 books

6chapters in now.
Nanowrimo is every month

[Anonymous No.11968594]

What are some books with strong beginnings?

I usually find the start of books a chore, with what have you infodumps, world building, random dry stuff happening that I have no connection to (yet). So I'd like to hear a few suggestions to stuff that have an interesting, engaging start (in your opinion).

[Anonymous No.11968617]

>>11968594

[Anonymous No.11968635]

>>11968594
Revelation Space has a nice opening scene i think, an archaeological dig on a stormy alien planet.

[Anonymous No.11968671]

>>11968617
I will fight you.

[Anonymous No.11968728]

>>11964572
Well that's a real shame. I enjoyed it a lot more than the Black Company.

[Anonymous No.11968801]

I thought the Amber spamming may have been akin to the Maas shitposting, but it's genuinely great.
Read it or you're gay.

[Anonymous No.11968889]

Hey guys,I'd like to ask.
Wasn't there a place on this site where I can post a picture,and some guys will recommend me a book?
Is it here?
If so,this.

[Anonymous No.11968903]

>>11968889

[Anonymous No.11968951]

what is the best

[Anonymous No.11968972]

>>11968801
>Read it or you're gay.
Then it looks like I'm fucking boipucci from mtf on /lgbt/ then.

[Anonymous No.11968974]

>>11968889
If you like fallout I'd suggest The Road by Cormac Mccarthy. If you like the weird sci-fi stuff from fallout then I'd suggest Roadside Picnicwhich is the novel STALKER was based on.
Other than that I don't really know what kind of novels get the feeling of fallout, it's a very unique setting and it feels just right when playing it, other games in similar settings (wasteland 2 for example) feel like they're close but not quite there, it's like some kind of missing ingredient or slight polish somewhere you can't see.
You're lucky it's my favorite game series and I secretly want to be your friend now.
Which ones do you like in the series, I like the originals the most but 3 and NV are fun too, didn't enjoy 4 as much sadly.

[Anonymous No.11968978]

>>11968972
Right on!

[Anonymous No.11969003]

>>11968972
>>11968801

Being gay is fucking great, the Greeks we're definitely on to something big.
Especially true for good traps or good passing tranners since they're essentially girls but with a guys sex drive and less emotional issues.
Or you can just get a guy friend that loves to suck your dick and just hangout and do cool guy stuff together otherwise.
Ignore the flamboyant gays, they're essentially crazy women.

[Anonymous No.11969017]

>>11969003
>Being gay is fucking great
It's one thing to indulge in degeneracy in privacy, but it is unacceptable to revel in it.

[Anonymous No.11969038]

i am a cro-magnon that only reads scifi and fantasy but i want to expand my horizons. is it worth it to read the iliad? it's kind of fantasy right

[Anonymous No.11969044]

>>11969038
Don't know if worth, but it's fun once you get past the first 10 or so chapters where the narrator endlessly lists pointless shit.

[Anonymous No.11969047]

>>11969017
Life is a finite resource and I want to enjoy every single second of it. I haven't even done anything sexual with a man (crossdresser or tranner included) but simply admire them for how adorable some of them look.

[Anonymous No.11969075]

>>11969038
If you enjoy very nice poetry, read the Pope translation. Otherwise, probably just read a summary and move on to the Odyssey

[Anonymous No.11969088]

>>11969047
Anon you have to be really, really careful.
You start with retarded posts like that and year later you end up taking whoremoans.

[Anonymous No.11969091]

>>11969075
cool ill do that. thanks

[Anonymous No.11969112]

>>11959406
I do write SFF.
I have written oh 2 and a half stories.
Earlier this year I thought I would be doing NaNoWriMo but I will be busy in November and I don't think I have the writing discipline to do it.
I still might give it a go as I do have a plot and setting in mind.

[Anonymous No.11969145]

>>11960309
Attempting to write something that will last will never get you something that will.

[Anonymous No.11969146]

>amazon removed the people also baught section from books
WHAT THE FUCK MAN
WHAT GIVES

[Anonymous No.11969162]

What are the best battles you've ever read in fantasy? For me it's Brenna.

[Anonymous No.11969163]

>>11963468
I mean if the contents are the same you may as well just get a nicer copy unless your on a budget of course.

[Anonymous No.11969200]

>>11969088
Hah I wish I could pass as well as some of the tranners and crossdressers I've met. They seem genuinely happy with being a woman while I'll always feel very miserable as a man, self medding is also very strictly monitored and can actually result in hefty fines or jail time if they catch you over here.

I can't count the times I've felt actual jealousy of women, how happy they look when going out, the general machoisms that are common in friendship in males never really interested me and it took me a very long time to adjust when I got a job where all my coworkers were men and behaving like men do when there are only men around.

To be honest anon if I could get whoremoans and pass so wonderfully as I've seen some of the traps and tranners in my life do I would love to follow that path in life and feel happy. On the other hand I need to be reasonable with what is currently possible with the technology we have, most of the perfect traps and tranners I've met actually passed as girls when they were still going out as a male, and most likely had a very feminine build and look about them before they started whoremoans and became a woman full time.

At that point I need to take myself into that equation. I'm not too tall (5 foot 9) but very stocky and with a very broad chest and no hips, I've had hair on my chest since I was 11 and it's incredibly thick as well as having hair pretty much everywhere else. I'm around 180 pounds which is about 60-70 pounds more than women of my height are on average.

At some point it's not about wanting it enough but wondering if there is any point in improving the stuff you have or getting something new instead. I have considered getting myself frozen when I'm old and put into a perfectly feminine body when the tech gets far enough, Alcor allows you to get frozen for only 80k (at least brain and the nervous systems) which is affordable enough to save within a lifetime (at least for me any way).

That's my view on the matter any way, I can only hope that some of the amazing theoretical tech that I read about in sci-fi novels such as resleeving into a custom synthetic body of your choosing becomes a reality some day.

[Anonymous No.11969228]

New thread fruitcakes

[Anonymous No.11969244]

>>11969200
Oh no, it's too late.

>>11969228
Yes we need a clean brake from all this crazy faggotry.

[Anonymous No.11969261]

>>11969244
The faggotry will never end, accept it anon.
Nice dubs though

[Anonymous No.11969264]

>>11969146
Goyim you buy their recommendations and their recommendations only. That way they can charge more for peoples books to show up. Now punch in that credit card info, Bezos needs another underground lizard man hatchery.

[Anonymous No.11969280]

>>11969264
>Buying books from amazon
Fucking kek i use that section to find new and interesting books which i then get from mobilism
I'm not some damned untermensch that gives shekels to jewmazon

[Anonymous No.11969300]

>>11969038
It's legit amazing. Fagles is probably the most approachable translation. You don't have to read the Catalogue of Ships, it's unironically the ancient world equivalent of that infamous part in Ready Player One where he list all nerd stuff he like.

[Anonymous No.11969302]

>>11967700
Its ok. Get the audiobook. I believe he narrates them as well.

[Anonymous No.11969315]

Oi, fruitcakes I gave you an order. Get to work.

[Anonymous No.11969318]

what does /sffg/ think of the dark tower series?

[Anonymous No.11969320]

>>11969145
neither will writing the story I want to write. its something that's ony been done 5 times in the last century

[Anonymous No.11969354]

New thread homos.

>>11969352
>>11969352
>>11969352

[Anonymous No.11969358]

>>11969088
Why is it that I want to fuck passable trannies?
What is it about fucking objects that utterly failed to be a man?
There is just something about people so decimated by life that they pass their holes and dignity up to be used as someone stronger wishes.

[Anonymous No.11969442]

>>11969358
Because you're bi

[Anonymous No.11969464]

>>11969442
Not attracted to men. I don't even want to see the tranny's dick.
They look female and i want to make a pussy of them.

[Anonymous No.11969545]

>>11963623
Did you not read that poem?
I like his writing but that doesn't make him not clearly a racist.

[Anonymous No.11970014]

>>11969545
Most people were racist at the time friend.

[Anonymous No.11970045]

>>11967972
If he's got the single-volume Wizard Knight (or Short Sun) for less than $40 get them.

Long Sun is weird. I thought it was OK-good when I read it but Short Sun retroactively makes it seem far better. But Short Sun wouldn't make much sense unless you've read both Long Sun and New Sun.