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I'm writing an anime-style novel right now, but I can't think of any new and interesting ways to do battle.

For example, here are some ways to do battle:

>hand-to-hand combat
Don't enjoy this

>medieval weapons
Overplayed

>laser rifles
Star Wars has a monopoly already

>world-relevant battle format
An example would be Pokemon, where rivals all agree to fight via their Pokemons. Beyblade is another example.

>wands
Harry Potter has a monopoly

>some kind of robotic avatar
Neon Genesis Evangelion has a monopoly already

I'm stumped, honestly. I want a form of fighting in which male and female can fight without relying on their muscles alone (which is why Pokemon and Harry Potter are so great). But I can't think of anything really. Nothing animal-related can be involved since it'll just be a more realistic Pokemon.

Any ideas?

>> No.11738127

>>11738076
>trying to do something creative but lack the creativity to even iterate on one of the most uncreative mediums ever pls halp
>anime-style novel
>not light novel
Maybe consider not writing this at all.

>> No.11738175

>>11738127
It's not a light novel, it deals with profound intellectual and philosophical themes, only in the context of a novel which is anime-esque.

Thanks.

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>>11738076
it doesn't matter, just make them say some stupid random shit in foreign languages during fight scenes

>> No.11738249

>>11738076
you're not gonna make it

>> No.11738258
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>>11738175
check out my man Tommy beans

>> No.11738263

>>11738076
Listen bud, there's no form of combat that hasn't been done to death. Just do what you like.

>> No.11738272

>>11738076
You're focusing on the wrong thing m8. Battles are the least interesting part of novels. What matters more is the reason behind the battles, not how they're waged.

If you really care about the minutiae of battles, then choose a more dynamic medium like animation or vidya.

>> No.11738274

dance off

>> No.11738278

>>11738263
But surely that was true in 1995 or whatever when Neon Genesis Evangelion came out with a totally new battle concept?

And even Harry Potter totally revolutionized the idea of wand combat, since wands before then had largely been associated with causing a cauldron to boil and mundane shit like that.

>> No.11738284

>>11738272
They are crucial to my work, because the protagonist battles against dark forces alongside a female co-protagonist, but I don't want there to be physical fighting involved (melee, swords etc) since it's just too old-fashioned IMO.

What is the next lightsaber?

What is the next Pokeball?

>> No.11738301

>>11738278
What aspect of NGE's combat was new? Harry Potter's wand combat was slightly innovative but magic has been done so so so much.

>> No.11738311
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>>11738076
Children's card game

>> No.11738326

>>11738301
He's writing an """anime novel""". He's obviously an ironic weeb, do you think that type of person knows of any other mecha except NGE?

>> No.11738329

>>11738076
>I'm writing an anime-style novel
Stopped reading there, buddy

>> No.11738332

>>11738301
NGE was new in that rather than a male kid and a female kid being forced to punch or stab a monster, they instead were placed in giant robots they controlled to fight them. A novel concept.

And magic has been done a lot, but never as thoroughly as in Harry Potter, where wand fighting is taken to a whole nother level.

>> No.11738363

>>11738332
You're a complete fucking idiot. Giant robots predate your parents generation.

>> No.11738435

>>11738076
Your characters summon famous historical figures to fight for them. Each of these historical figures has a special attack based on their legend.

>> No.11738444

>>11738363
Not ones commanded by teenagers.

>> No.11738445

>>11738076
It's not a new form of combat, but you could try having your characters fight through manifested avatars which represent their soul/will power so strength is determined by spirit rather then physical strength

>> No.11738448

>>11738445
How would this be described though? It sounds a lot like Neon Genesis, or like Philip Pullman's work which is very much similar to Pokemon albeit with just one Pikachu-esque sidekick.

>> No.11738452

>>11738284
>What is the next lightsaber
>What is the next pokeball

If anyone had the answer to this, why would they give it to you for free?

>> No.11738477

>>11738448
Depends on your storyline and how you'd want to include or discuss the concept of ones soul/afterlife

>> No.11738504

>>11738444
I know you know who Amuro Ray is.

>> No.11738525

What I'm doing is pop star stadium battles
The main characters are pop music stars who battle with attention and controversy
The main character had the special ability to "drown" other characters
It's a kind of a vague, ambiguous kind of thing rather than an outright blood-pumping battle

>> No.11738534

>>11738525
You're writing Josie and the Pussycats?

>> No.11738535

>>11738444
So you're saying that a small twist like that can make an idea fresh but you dismiss several forms of combat because another setting has a "monopoly" on them?

>> No.11738547

>>11738525
masturbation duels, who cometh first wins

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>>11738076
>I can't take an already established forms of fight and make something interesting and original out of this

why even try anon?

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>>11738076

>> No.11738751

You didn't even think of contemporary modern weapons but make the characters so OP the novel will basically be fantasy. Or add magic spellcasts in it or some shit

>> No.11738759

>>11738751
I don't like the use of guns as it's too overdramatic and unaesthetic. Laser guns are aesthetic but Star Wars has a monopoly.

>> No.11738768

There are a few kinds of obscure experimental or one-off firearms that haven't really been used as far as I know.

>> No.11738779

https://www.forgottenweapons.com/

>> No.11738780

>>11738768
I don't want to use firearms, they are unaesthetic. You'd never see conventional firearms in an anime, except in the form of parody. No cute, autistic anime protagonist would wield a pistol or rifle, unless it fired lasers.

>> No.11738815

>>11738780
Conventional firearms show up in anime all the time and look great. Watch Full Metal Panic, Gunsmith Cats, and Cowboy Bebop. Even Trigun and Hellsing, while being more stylized and over the top, had technically conventional firearms.

>> No.11738841

>I'm writing an anime-style novel right now, but I can't think of any new and interesting ways to do battle.

Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why?

>> No.11738868

>>11738841
Because OP is either 15 or a really bored troll.

>> No.11738891

>>11738278
>when Neon Genesis Evangelion came out with a totally new battle concept?

You're a fucking retard. Mecha genre is ages older than Eva. Mazinger Z came out in '72, and then there's goddamn Gundam

>> No.11738894

If you want suggestions on how to write anime, read Brandon Sanderson, Brent Weeks, and Larry Correia. I'm sure you can get some ideas.

>> No.11738921

>>11738891
None of those animes have robots fight by having mental breakdowns

>> No.11738935

>>11738435
>not making fun of OP

Fuck off

>> No.11738951

>>11738435
Kamen Rider Ghost, Bill & Ted...

>> No.11739044
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>I'm writing an anime
Stopped reading there

>> No.11739086

>>11738076
NANO BOTS.
SWARMS OF NANO BOTS.
A SKY GRAY WITH NANO BOTS.

>> No.11739104

If you really have to lookup Nishio Ishin.

>> No.11739127

>>11738278
>NGE's totally new battle concept
Oh I am laffin
It's a combination of two fight styles you have said you do not want to do; hand-to-hand and rifles, overlain with how said battles affect each character's psyche.
Just describe what's happening during the battle that's relevant. As long as it's not a Dragon Ball Z-tier fight that lasts over a chapter nobody is going to mind the action.

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>>11739086
I PLAYED COLLEGE FOOTBALL

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>>11738278
>>11738326
>>11738332
>>11738363
>>11738444
>>11738891
>>11738921
The only "robot" in NGE is the nuclear-powered Jet Alone prototype, you goddamn fucking idiots

>> No.11739248

>>11738935
But he is?

>> No.11739608

>>11738076
>>world-relevant battle format
This is by far the best one in your list, or what about a gun-fu battle?

>> No.11739653

>>11739138
lol wrong

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>>11738076
>I can't think of any new and interesting ways to do battle.
Corporate espionage. Bring your weebdom to its obvious conclusion.

>> No.11740891

read some actual books before u try to write one, an anime isnt a good template to base urself on

>> No.11740906

>>11739653
he's right. mass-produced evas are also biomechanical, just not soul-infused and piloted.

>> No.11740918

>>11738076
theres no such thing as a literary monopoly idiot just do what is an interesting story

>> No.11741614

Psychological fights, kys-style. If you can't pull that off you will never hack it writting an anime-style cannon
Note: I pronounce style like (sty-lee)