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[Anonymous No.9974920]

Is it worth to read Freud? I am curious about his things, but I am not sure.

[Anonymous No.9974947]

>>9974920
Yeah he's an intellectual titan for a reason. Even if you disagree with him its important how you disagree with him

[Anonymous No.9974951]

>>9974947
Fair point. Where should I start them?

[Anonymous No.9974953]

Maybe Freud can tell you why you seek validation on anonymous imageboards.

[Anonymous No.9974955]

Yes, but you should mostly pay close attention to his methodology.

[Anonymous No.9974988]

>>9974951
Civilization and Its Discontents and the Introductory Lectures

[Anonymous No.9974990]

He's interesting to read and I recommend it, but psychoanalysis is pretty much sophistry, and he was hilariously wrong about so many things. Nearly all of his essays and papers are him trying to display his ability to come up with ingenious unfalsifiable explanations for phenomena, usually ones that agree with whatever sexual theory he was hell-bent on proving at the time. I'm currently reading his Dora case history and he's honestly a fucking moron sometimes. Not only is he a moron, he is a massive douchebag.

Psychoanalysis is basically an intellectual trick; its not a science and its results do not produce verifiable conclusions, but the whole practice of psychoanalysis and process is interesting to learn about because some parts of it are useful. Freud is also a canonical figure for his historical value and influence on his contemporaries like Jung.

[Anonymous No.9974995]

>>9974951
Start with your mother
>>9974990
You sound like you have severe castration anxiety and suffer from hysteria probably as well

[Anonymous No.9974999]

>>9974955
Have you paid close attention to your mother? I think you did

[Anonymous No.9975004]

Alright bois, OP here
I got it
I gotta do it and them I will know it was sex
Thanks for the help

[Anonymous No.9975010]

>>9974990
Hello plebbit

[Anonymous No.9975017]

>>9974920
He was a drug-addled Jew who tried to seduce Dr. Frasier Crane.

[Anonymous No.9975024]

>>9974990
>Take it as closer to philosophy instead of hard science
>It's suddenly impressive and profound
That was hard

[Anonymous No.9976034]

>not being freudpilled yet

Even when he was wrong, he was wrong in the right ways. You can only start to understand modernity through Freud.

I recommend you start with The Psychopathology of Everyday life, then Interpretation of Dreams and, after that, depends on what interests you the most. Totem and Taboo is essential, but I definitely wouldn't recommend it as an intro to Freud.
After Freud himself, move on to Lacan, Klein and Bion. If you find Lacan too difficult, pick up Zizek's How to Read Lacan. If you want to inquire into psychoanalysis' legitimacy as a science, read Gaston Bachelard and Bion, neuropsychoanalysis, Lacan's seminars on psychoanalysis as an ethic, discourse and science of language, and the studies of Leichsenring and Rabung. These don't all lead to a single avenue of understanding, instead there's a multiplicity of approaches and conclusions.

A critical reading of the classical critique of psychoanalysis by Popper and Wittgenstein will show how it is limited, pseudo-epistemological and fundamentally misunderstands psychoanalysis. If you want to get completely woke, read up on epistemic pessimism, epistemological anarchism and the critical theory critique of the scientific method, and read Feyerabend, Louis Althusser and The Dialectics of Enlightenment.

Having said all that, I personally find it highly ineffective to self-teach philosophy and psychoanalysis. Ideally, you should be studying this with the help of a professor, and you should be in psychoanalysis yourself as an analysand.

[Anonymous No.9976048]

>when goes to sleep he has a surprise lol
thanks interpretation of dreams